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seruriermarshal
03-09-2005, 09:15 PM
Iraqis Find 41 Bodies Near Syrian Border

Iraqis Find 41 Bodies Near Syrian Border

2 hours, 19 minutes ago Middle East - AP


By PATRICK QUINN, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi authorities found 41 decomposed bodies — some bullet-riddled, others beheaded — at sites near the Syrian border and south of the capital, and said Wednesday they included women and children who may have been killed because insurgents thought their families were collaborating with U.S. forces.


In Baghdad, a suicide bomber driving a garbage truck loaded with explosives and at least one other gunman shot their way into a parking lot in an attempt to blow up a hotel used by Western contractors. At least four people, including the attackers and a guard, were killed.


The U.S. Embassy said 30 Americans were among 40 people wounded in the blast. No Americans were killed. In an Internet statement, al-Qaida in Iraq (news - web sites) purportedly claimed responsibility for the attack on the Sadeer hotel, calling it the "hotel of the Jews."


While Sunni Arab insurgents have repeatedly targeted Westerners in Iraq, Shiite Muslims, top Iraqi officials and civil servants, even Muslim women are no longer safe.


Decapitated bodies of women have begun turning up in recent weeks, a note with the word "collaborator" usually pinned to their chests. Three women were gunned down Tuesday in one of Baghdad's Shiite neighborhoods for being alleged collaborators. And in the northern city of Kirkuk, a woman identified as Nawal Mohammed, who worked with U.S. forces, was killed in a drive-by shooting, police said.


The decomposed bodies were found Tuesday after reports of their stench reached authorities.


Twenty-six of the dead were discovered in a field near Rumana, a village 12 miles east of the western city of Qaim, near the Syrian border. Each body was riddled with bullets. The dead were found wearing civilian clothes and one was a woman, police Capt. Muzahim al-Karbouli said.


The other site was south of Baghdad in Latifiya, where Iraqi troops found 15 headless bodies in a building at an abandoned army base, Defense Ministry Capt. Sabah Yassin said.


The bodies included 10 men, three women and two children. Their identities, like the others found in western Iraq, were not known, but insurgents may have viewed them or their relatives as collaborators.


Yassin said some of men found dead in Latifiya were thought to have been part of a group of Iraqi soldiers who were kidnapped by insurgents two weeks ago.


The gruesome discoveries were among 58 new killings in Iraq announced Wednesday, including the death of a U.S. soldier in a Baghdad roadside bombing.


Iraq's interim planning minister, Mahdi al-Hafidh, a Shiite, narrowly escaped death Wednesday after gunmen opened fire on his convoy in the capital. Two of his bodyguards were killed and two others were wounded.


"I'm fine, just sorry about the death of the guards, who were still young," he told state-run Al-Iraqiya TV. "It is a part of the crisis that Iraq is living, but we will keep going for the sake of Iraq, to get rid of terrorism and build a democratic country."


Qataa Abdul Nabi, the director general of the Shiite Endowment, was shot to death Tuesday as he drove home — the second high-ranking member of the Shiite charity to be killed in a week.


A car bombing targeted an American checkpoint outside a base in Habaniyah, 50 miles west of Baghdad, and another exploded near U.S. troops close to Abu Ghraib, just west of the capital.


No other details were available, and the U.S. military could not be reached for comment. It was unclear if the dead U.S. soldier was killed in any of the attacks. The U.S. military said only that a soldier was killed and another was wounded by a bomb as they were patrolling around Baghdad.


As of Tuesday, at least 1,509 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. At least 1,149 died as a result of hostile action, according to the Defense Department. The figures include four military civilians. The AP count is five higher than the Defense Department's tally, last updated at 10 a.m. EST Tuesday.





In other violence:

_ Guerrillas struck a police patrol with a roadside bomb in the southern city of Basra, killing two policeman and wounding three, Lt. Col. Karim Al-Zaydi said.

_ Two police officers were killed and two others wounded in clashes with insurgents in the northern city of Mosul.

Police said the attack on the Sadeer hotel began when insurgents wearing police uniforms shot to death a guard at the Agriculture Ministry's gate, allowing the truck to enter a compound the ministry shares with the hotel. Guards fired on the vehicle and it exploded.

The explosion carved a hole in the parking lot that was at least 30 feet wide and more than 10 feet deep. It shattered most windows in the hotel and set cars on fire.

Al-Qaida in Iraq posted an Internet statement addressed to its leader, Jordanian-born terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, claiming it carried out the attack.

It said: "we have fulfilled our vow to take down the Jews and Christians." In an alleged response on the same site, someone purporting to be al-Zarqawi replied, "you have relieved us by killing the enemy of God. God bless you."

Another militant group, the Islamic Army in Iraq, purportedly posted an Internet video showing what it said were two Sudanese hostages abducted in Baghdad. The men identified themselves as Mohammed Hammad and Maher Attaya and said they were drivers for a Turkish company working for U.S. forces. The authenticity of the video could not be verified.

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From (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050309/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_050309194730)

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DPGLAW
03-09-2005, 09:54 PM
The fact that these terrorists do this just shows how truly stupid they really are, and in addition it shows that they have absolutely NO tactical mind or sense. I say this as behavior such as that described in the article contained herein this post just angers the civilian population and more and more of them are tipping off the US and/or killing the terrorists themselves. This just brings them (civilians) over to our "side", the side of freedom from tyranny and opression that is and it is spreading. Much more of this and the insurgents wont be able to come out in public without fear of being killed, and killed they will.....As the bumper sticker I saw the other day said, "US Marines..Travel Agents to Allah"..... :)

Aerosoul
03-09-2005, 10:00 PM
Jesus H. Christ. Sick ****s. I feel for those people. God damn...

RIP. :(

usa320
03-09-2005, 10:05 PM
wait, i thought they were freedom fighters?

:roll:

seruriermarshal
03-09-2005, 10:26 PM
wait, i thought they were freedom fighters?

:roll:

The media call those sh*t freedom fighters .

Group9
03-09-2005, 11:00 PM
wait, i thought they were freedom fighters?

:roll:

Apparently, their quest for freedom knows no bounds.

Yet, there are still people who represent themselves as civilized who support them.

Hugh Jardon
03-09-2005, 11:13 PM
Ever really wonder who the freedom fighters are? Ever wonder just who is fighting whom over there?

Why does the media forget about Chalabi and his personal little group of joyboys? How many other gangs are running around killing people around there?

It's not just the insurgents, it's the Iraqi mafia too. Every politician there has his group of hit men. Every small town has its headman with his hinchmen.

Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took. All Americans can do is sit back and duck bullets while dodging mortars and roadside bombs.

Sayeret
03-09-2005, 11:15 PM
RIP

seruriermarshal
03-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Ever really wonder who the freedom fighters are? Ever wonder just who is fighting whom over there?

Why does the media forget about Chalabi and his personal little group of joyboys? How many other gangs are running around killing people around there?

It's not just the insurgents, it's the Iraqi mafia too. Every politician there has his group of hit men. Every small town has its headman with his hinchmen.

Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took. All Americans can do is sit back and duck bullets while dodging mortars and roadside bombs.

Talk about Saddam to Kurds .

Azide
03-09-2005, 11:28 PM
Ever really wonder who the freedom fighters are? Ever wonder just who is fighting whom over there?

Why does the media forget about Chalabi and his personal little group of joyboys? How many other gangs are running around killing people around there?

It's not just the insurgents, it's the Iraqi mafia too. Every politician there has his group of hit men. Every small town has its headman with his hinchmen.

Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took. All Americans can do is sit back and duck bullets while dodging mortars and roadside bombs.

Talk about Saddam to Kurds .

way to miss the point :cantbeli:

Umm-Qasr
03-10-2005, 12:02 PM
RIP all ... :(

He219
03-10-2005, 12:14 PM
Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took..

That's exactly the type of apologist attitude that allowed other tyrants to persecute and murder huge masses of people and consolidate their grip on absolute power.

Over 270 mass graves have been found in Iraq to date. Human Rights Watch conservatively figures 290,000 murdered there for what you say is 'what it took'.


Pathetic.

Locked N Loaded
03-10-2005, 01:07 PM
^^
X2

That's why they call them Terrorists!....Skumbags!.... :bash:

RIP To All The Fallen!

L n L

Laworkerbee
03-10-2005, 01:08 PM
Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took..

That's exactly the type of apologist attitude that allowed other tyrants to persecute and murder huge masses of people and consolidate their grip on absolute power.

Over 270 mass graves have been found in Iraq to date. Human Rights Watch conservatively figures 290,000 murdered there for what you say is 'what it took'.


Pathetic.

X 2

Midav
03-10-2005, 01:12 PM
RIP :(

May those that did this meet an extremely slow and painful death. :fork:

MKtexan
03-10-2005, 01:45 PM
The fact that these terrorists do this just shows how truly stupid they really are, and in addition it shows that they have absolutely NO tactical mind or sense


I dont think that they think from a tactical standpoint, they are fanatics.


RIP

EsoognomEhT
03-10-2005, 01:48 PM
The fact that these terrorists do this just shows how truly stupid they really are, and in addition it shows that they have absolutely NO tactical mind or sense. I say this as behavior such as that described in the article contained herein this post just angers the civilian population and more and more of them are tipping off the US and/or killing the terrorists themselves. This just brings them (civilians) over to our "side", the side of freedom from tyranny and opression that is and it is spreading. Much more of this and the insurgents wont be able to come out in public without fear of being killed, and killed they will.....As the bumper sticker I saw the other day said, "US Marines..Travel Agents to Allah"..... Smile

:lol:

b33f
03-10-2005, 02:12 PM
RIP :(

May those that did this meet an extremely slow and painful death. :fork:

x2

Shadow Cobra
03-10-2005, 09:12 PM
The fact that these terrorists do this just shows how truly stupid they really are, and in addition it shows that they have absolutely NO tactical mind or sense. I say this as behavior such as that described in the article contained herein this post just angers the civilian population and more and more of them are tipping off the US and/or killing the terrorists themselves. This just brings them (civilians) over to our "side", the side of freedom from tyranny and opression that is and it is spreading. Much more of this and the insurgents wont be able to come out in public without fear of being killed, and killed they will.....As the bumper sticker I saw the other day said, "US Marines..Travel Agents to Allah".....

The insergents clearly have a death wish, and it is one that we can grant them.

Aerosoul
03-10-2005, 09:20 PM
RIP :(

May those that did this meet an extremely slow and painful death. :fork:

x2

I'd just prefer to do it quick and move on to the next ones. Kind of like a post I saw here a few weeks ago. Someone provided a link to a terrorist "scorecard." I don't see the point in it. No need to linger, gloat on the fact that we got a major player in GWOT. SMoke his ass, move on to the next ones as fast aswe can.

Hugh Jardon
03-10-2005, 09:22 PM
If were going to kill every terrorist in Iraq we aren't going to have many people to give a democracy.

szr
03-10-2005, 09:27 PM
If were going to kill every terrorist in Iraq we aren't going to have many people to give a democracy.Are you saying most Iraqis are terrorists?

Hugh Jardon
03-10-2005, 11:28 PM
I'm saying that most of the Iraqis we have installed in power are terrorists. They all have their hit squads.

The Iraqi mafia has its hit squads.

The Mullahs have their hit squads.

Al-Qaida has its hitsquads.

Neighborhoods have their own hit squads.

The most lucrative business there is arms dealing. Everybody does it because that is where the money is.

They all kill civilians trying to get at one another.

If you really want to do this right it's going to cost a lot of lives.

seruriermarshal
03-11-2005, 01:26 AM
I'm saying that most of the Iraqis we have installed in power are terrorists. They all have their hit squads.

The Iraqi mafia has its hit squads.

The Mullahs have their hit squads.

Al-Qaida has its hitsquads.

Neighborhoods have their own hit squads.

The most lucrative business there is arms dealing. Everybody does it because that is where the money is.

They all kill civilians trying to get at one another.

If you really want to do this right it's going to cost a lot of lives.

Any proof with that ?

:roll:

Jeremiah
03-11-2005, 02:39 AM
:( R.I.P

LazerLordz
03-11-2005, 02:43 AM
[quote] US Marines..Travel Agents to Allah"..... Smile

I love this. :-*$

walford
03-11-2005, 03:13 AM
Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took..That's exactly the type of apologist attitude that allowed other tyrants to persecute and murder huge masses of people and consolidate their grip on absolute power.

Over 270 mass graves have been found in Iraq to date. Human Rights Watch conservatively figures 290,000 murdered there for what you say is 'what it took'. Pathetic.Who are we to judge their equally valid culture? Some nations have limited representative government and others feed people feet first into plastic shredders. All of this talk about freedom being a universal birthright for all mankind is so much naive jingoistic imperialism. Summary executions, mass graves, torture chambers, etc. are simply expressions of an alternate lifestyle that no outsider has any right to even criticize, much less interfere with.

It was much worse that Saddam was removed w/o Kofi's permission. That's why people who protest against 'the war' never protest against the terrorists who are prolonging the occupation with their violence.

I'm saying that most of the Iraqis we have installed in power are terrorists. They all have their hit squads.The Iraqis sure must be busy, running all these hit squads AND participating in thousands of construction projects all over the country at the same time. http://www.rebuilding-iraq.net/

LazerLordz
03-11-2005, 04:31 AM
So I bet you would have shot US troops on their way to Normandy because you think Hitler had a valid culture going on with the elimination of Jews?You should visit the Marine Corps.They can arrange for you a one way ticket to meet Allah.FOC.

<Gypsum Fantastic>
03-11-2005, 04:58 AM
wait, i thought they were freedom fighters?

:roll:

The media call those sh*t freedom fighters .

I'd be amazed if anyone referred to these guys as freedom fighters. I can't recall that anyone ever has (at least in the british media). The term insurgent doesn't apply to people like this. These guys are terrorists by every definition of the word.

HardThunder
03-11-2005, 06:23 AM
I'd be amazed if anyone referred to these guys as freedom fighters. I can't recall that anyone ever has (at least in the british media). The term insurgent doesn't apply to people like this. These guys are terrorists by every definition of the word.

The poster just did if you missed it!

Now if you wish to see some ----- real nut cases. Then check out this place ( The two founders not only promote terror in Iraq, but the killing of Americans, and they live here in the US, and the server is in NC), spend some time looking around because most of them are here!

http://www.rfforces.com

walford
03-11-2005, 07:02 AM
I'd be amazed if anyone referred to these guys as freedom fighters. I can't recall that anyone ever has (at least in the british media). The term insurgent doesn't apply to people like this. These guys are terrorists by every definition of the word.The poster just did if you missed it!

Now if you wish to see some ----- real nut cases. Then check out this place ( The two founders not only promote terror in Iraq, but the killing of Americans, and they live here in the US, and the server is in NC), spend some time looking around because most of them are here!

http://www.rfforces.comAnd there is another fine American who shares that point of view:

Heads Up... from Michael Moore (http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-04-14)
The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush? You closed down a friggin' weekly newspaper, you great giver of freedom and democracy! Then all hell broke loose. The paper only had 10,000 readers! Why are you smirking?

...There is a lot of talk amongst Bush's opponents that we should turn this war over to the United Nations. Why should the other countries of this world, countries who tried to talk us out of this folly, now have to clean up our mess? I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle. I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end.

HardThunder
03-12-2005, 12:01 AM
And there is another fine American who shares that point of view:


"And there is another fine American"

I am afraid I must ask you to quantify your use of the term “Fine”. I would also point out that, the so-called being you refer to is ANTI-Republican, as are most Mad Ones in the US. Not shocking because all healthy beings are anti-madness.

If Hellery had ask for the war, mad boy would be over there fighting right now.

usm2b
03-12-2005, 02:36 AM
Jeeeeeeeeeesus Christ. :( :( :( ... They were F*cking kids for goodness sakes...

walford
03-12-2005, 02:45 AM
Jeeeeeeeeeesus Christ. ... They were F*cking kids for goodness sakes...Let us not forget...

Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took. And so Michael Moore's Minutemen are beheading children because that is 'what it takes' to eject the Infidel and either restore Saddam to his rightful place or install a Taliban Paradise.

If these 'children' are affiliated with the evil occupiers, then they are really demons who are complicit in establishing a regime that is not sanctioned by the Almighty and his Chosen. It is therefore a righteous obligation to kill them.

HardThunder
03-12-2005, 05:00 AM
Jeeeeeeeeeesus Christ. ... They were F*cking kids for goodness sakes...Let us not forget...

Saddam ruled the way he did because that was what it took. And so Michael Moore's Minutemen are beheading children because that is 'what it takes' to eject the Infidel and either restore Saddam to his rightful place or install a Taliban Paradise.

If these 'children' are affiliated with the evil occupiers, then they are really demons who are complicit in establishing a regime that is not sanctioned by the Almighty and his Chosen. It is therefore a righteous obligation to kill them.

Sorry but even by the version they SAY they are going by kid, and Vergin females MAY NOT be killed. NOW Michael Moore's Minutemen thing they are the few ( they have only the party for a god) , and they can do anything they feel they should. And so accouringgg to them they can do as the wish.

walford
03-12-2005, 05:11 AM
Sorry but even by the version they SAY they are going by kid, and Vergin females MAY NOT be killed. NOW Michael Moore's Minutemen thing they are the few ( they have only the party for a god) , and they can do anything they feel they should. And so accouringgg to them they can do as the wish.They get around the 'no kill virgins' prohibition by raping them first -- even if they are infants. That is what they did in the early days of the Iranian Islamic Republic when they encountered Bahai females. Rape, torture, rape, torture, kill.

And the Almighty smiled upon them for their piety by promising 72 more virgins in the Afterlife. :hug:

Umm-Qasr
03-14-2005, 05:57 AM
I'm saying that most of the Iraqis we have installed in power are terrorists. They all have their hit squads.

The Iraqi mafia has its hit squads.

The Mullahs have their hit squads.

Al-Qaida has its hitsquads.

Neighborhoods have their own hit squads.

The most lucrative business there is arms dealing. Everybody does it because that is where the money is.

They all kill civilians trying to get at one another.

If you really want to do this right it's going to cost a lot of lives.WOW, u must probably know much more than the average mortal ...

shrek
03-14-2005, 08:47 AM
Ok, I truly believe that we ALL give these guys way too much credit!

A great deal of these killings probably have nothing to do with a fight for Allah or a Jihad. These guys are pissed that their time is up and the life that they have always known has come to an end; no more leading through violence and no more living off the poor through threats of violence.

They now need somewhere to release their anger and inability to effectively fight what they see as the real enemy (US, allies) without getting most of themselves killed as well, so they leave the city, get far enough away that an armed response is unlikely, and then kill innocent, unarmed civilians. In these actions is very little chance of getting hurt themselves and they feel vindicated.

No master propaganda plan; just plain hatred!


Shortly after we got over seas I wrote something on the wall of our hut. It said:


"From the depths of our hatred came thoughts of revenge"

"From the screams of those lost, whispers of reciprocity"

"From those that have come, glimpsed Hell and lived a single cry;

VENGEANCE IS MINE"


That's the way we felt and I'm sure thats the way these guys feel! Just for completely different reasons!!!