Judge Killed in Courthouse Shooting - March 11

[Dude, Seriously]

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- A Fulton County Superior Court judge was killed and three other people were wounded Friday when a defendant grabbed a gun from a deputy sheriff and opened fire, officials said.

The shooting occurred about 9 a.m. in Judge Rowland W. Barnes' eighth-floor courtroom. Barnes was dead at the scene, Judge Gary Spencer told CNN Radio. The court reporter and a deputy were also wounded. A witness told CNN that another sheriff's deputy was seen lying on the ground outside.

All four victims were transported to Grady Memorial Hospital, said Sgt. Clarence Huber of the Fulton County Sheriff's Department. A search for the suspect, identified by police as Bryan Nichols, 34, was under way.

A witness told CNN the suspect took his tow truck at gunpoint outside the courthouse and fled the scene.

The gunman "told me to get out of the truck. I told him he can have the truck. And I walked away," said Deronte Franklin.

There were reports of other carjackings outside the courthouse.

Police and emergency vehicles surrounded the courthouse, and those inside said they were locked in courtrooms and offices.

[Legion]

What the hell is wrong with people? :cantbeli:

[FallenAngel]

ok, maybe it's just me, but how did this guy actually get away? Was that the only court officer/ US Marshal in the f*cking building?

Course, the only court house I've been in was in Los Angeles where there were at least half a dozen Sheriff Deputies at the major exits- not to mention the dozens more there on routine business.

[Legion]

The assailant was described as a tall black male with a bald head. Authorities said the suspect grabbed a gun from the deputy inside the courthouse before opening fire. The incident occurred shortly after 9 a.m. at the courthouse, located in downtown Atlanta.

Nice. Is the anti-gun crowd going to argue for disarming court deputies next?

[Geezah]

The assailant was described as a tall black male with a bald head. Authorities said the suspect grabbed a gun from the deputy inside the courthouse before opening fire. The incident occurred shortly after 9 a.m. at the courthouse, located in downtown Atlanta.

Nice. Is the anti-gun crowd going to argue for disarming court deputies next?

I heard about this earlier, well the antis can't scream about disarming the law abiding in Curt Houses, because it's already happening!

I don't look for much of a response from the antis to this thread!

[Werewolf01]

I really hope this guys 'resists' when they track him down. I think a suitable punishment would be public emasculation followed by execution a few days later, if they do apprehend him with no more orifices than he currently has.

[Geezah]

Update

Judge killed in US court shooting

A judge and a court reporter have been killed in a shooting at a courthouse in the US city of Atlanta.

Two other court officials were wounded in the incident, which occurred at about 1400 GMT in the city centre.

A major search is currently underway for the suspect, who has been named as Brian Nichols. He was appearing in court on rape and kidnapping charges.

According to reports, the suspect grabbed a gun from a court official, fired, and then fled.

He is said to have made his escape in a stolen vehicle.

The judge has been named as Rowland Barnes.

The Associated Press reports that all the judges in Fulton County courthouse were locked in their chambers. The building and others nearby were sealed.

Traffic in the surrounding area was halted as police launched their search.

The shooting comes less than two weeks after the murder of the husband and mother of a judge in Chicago.


Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4341043.stm)

[Fallosophy]

I have a feeling that in the next few weeks, all law enforcement will be retraining in weapon retention techniques.

[11F5S]

The assailant was described as a tall black male with a bald head. Authorities said the suspect grabbed a gun from the deputy inside the courthouse before opening fire. The incident occurred shortly after 9 a.m. at the courthouse, located in downtown Atlanta.

Nice. Is the anti-gun crowd going to argue for disarming court deputies next?

This incident certainly raises issues about the prudence of the current policy of guns inside the court room. Three people are dead as a result of a LEO's gun being in the court.

[Legion]

The assailant was described as a tall black male with a bald head. Authorities said the suspect grabbed a gun from the deputy inside the courthouse before opening fire. The incident occurred shortly after 9 a.m. at the courthouse, located in downtown Atlanta.

Nice. Is the anti-gun crowd going to argue for disarming court deputies next?

This incident certainly raises issues about the prudence of the current policy of guns inside the court room. Three people are dead as a result of a LEO's gun being in the court.

So what if the assailant would have come in already armed? What are the deputies supposed to use then, harsh language?

Also three people are dead due to the fact that a person who was due to be retried for kidnapping and rape, killed them.

[Seraphim]

The assailant was described as a tall black male with a bald head. Authorities said the suspect grabbed a gun from the deputy inside the courthouse before opening fire. The incident occurred shortly after 9 a.m. at the courthouse, located in downtown Atlanta.

Nice. Is the anti-gun crowd going to argue for disarming court deputies next?

This incident certainly raises issues about the prudence of the current policy of guns inside the court room. Three people are dead as a result of a LEO's gun being in the court.

So what if the assailant would have come in already armed? What are the deputies supposed to use then, harsh language?

Also three people are dead due to the fact that a person who was due to be retried for kidnapping and rape, killed them.

Late 80's I believe a gunman went into a court house...cant remember, magazine is at home, I'll grab the magazine later and type out the article.

[11F5S]

So what if the assailant would have come in already armed? What are the deputies supposed to use then, harsh language?

Fact: Courts have security systems/proceedures to prevent weapons from getting into the court house.

Where did I say anything about banning armed officers in the courthouse?


Also three people are dead due to the fact that a person who was due to be retried for kidnapping and rape, killed them.

How did he obtain the weapon he was used?

[samjung23]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

[SOG]

pffft, who cares, no system is fool proof/perfect. live and move along. it generally works fine? how often does this happen? any stats? yeah, who cares. love the way when something 3000 miles away gets plate fed into somebodies face, then its time to do soemthing about it! not talking here, just the general public reaction, OMG one day! forgot about it the next day.

[11F5S]

Late 80's I believe a gunman went into a court house...cant remember, magazine is at home, I'll grab the magazine later and type out the article.

1983: Judge Henry Gentile was shot in his divorce courtroom by Hutchie Moore, a former Chicago cop who smuggled a .38-caliber revolver into the court in his wheelchair. Moore did not like the way his divorce was going. He also shot and killed his wife's divorce lawyer.

1. That was 22 years ago.....courthouse security is much tighter now.

2. I'm not sure if there was one in this case (a divorce prceeding), but If there was an armed officer in the court he/she wasn't able to prevent it.

[11F5S]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

You really should see a doctor and have your meds adjusted.

[Legion]

Fact: Courts have security systems/proceedures to prevent weapons from getting into the court house.

Do you think the metal detector phyiscally disarms someone? What system/procedure is going to stop an armed assailant in a building full of unarmed people?


Where did I say anything about banning armed officers in the courthouse?
Your words:

This incident certainly raises issues about the prudence of the current policy of guns inside the court room.
By saying this I assume you are talking about whether or not these deputies are armed, are you not?

How did he obtain the weapon he was used?
Illegally. The "how" in this case does not matter. What if he would have disarmed a police officer on the street in front of the courthouse? Would we then need to raise the issue of the prudence of arming police officers on the street?

[samjung23]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

You really should see a doctor and have your meds adjusted.

Fvk u you phony prick. You're probably not even real Special Forces, you fvking poser.

[Geezah]

So what if the assailant would have come in already armed? What are the deputies supposed to use then, harsh language?

Fact: Courts have security systems/proceedures to prevent weapons from getting into the court house.

Where did I say anything about banning armed officers in the courthouse?

Well this didn't work the suspect should have been cuffed!



Also three people are dead due to the fact that a person who was due to be retried for kidnapping and rape, killed them.

How did he obtain the weapon he was used?


Not sure if you read the articles before responding, but please see the following :cantbeli:


According to reports, the suspect grabbed a gun from a court official, fired, and then fled.

[NcDeuce]

What the hell is wrong with people?

x2

Maybe some additional training should be provided for these armed officers.

[CG51]

and this nut carjacked a vehicle and shot and killed another officer...i figure when they find him, he will be put down...heh, or the official report will say he "resisted enroute to the station and an officer had no choice but to use force to prevent further loss of life"...

always sad to hear an officer dying in the line of duty...RIP...

[Legion]

"resisted enroute to the station and an officer had no choice but to use force to prevent further loss of life"...

I like it!

[sethen]

woot woot woot

[Haiw]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

You really should see a doctor and have your meds adjusted.

Fvk u you phony prick. You're probably not even real Special Forces, you fvking poser.
rofl rofl
This is gonna be an interesting thread after all. p-)

[CG51]

whats teh deal with all these people calling people posers now-a-days?

[Midav]

whats teh deal with all these people calling people posers now-a-days?

i doubt you're the real bender so you should just stfu

:P

[CG51]

whats teh deal with all these people calling people posers now-a-days?

i doubt you're the real bender so you should just stfu

:P

:lol: damn..busted...

[Seraphim]

"resisted enroute to the station and an officer had no choice but to use force to prevent further loss of life"...

I like it!

LEO are proffesionals, not kids. You dont think there would be an inquiry of how the suspect in custody "resisted" and there was no other use of force but deadly force? Officer here a year back, just got convicted of manslaughter two months ago for shooting a man who tried to take his pistol from him when the officer was putting the man in the local cell. Inside source says jury said the officer should only have shot the man once, not twice. Officer is currently appealing the decision.

[CG51]

ever heard of a "drop"?

[CG51]

edit

[platform389]

The suspect knocked down the female deputy and took her gun, shooting her in the head. He then went in and shot the judge and court reporter.

Fleeing the scene, he encounted another deputy and shot him as well. Carjacked several vehicles to escape including a newpaper reporter that he tried to order into the truck. The reporter refused and the suspect attempted to shoot him as well, but was out of ammo.

MASSIVE manhunt underway here and TV coverage nonstop. Photo of suspect and tag number of last vehicle he was in being shown continuously.

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif

[usa320]

Im betting that the murderer probably tried fighting the guard, which is why the guard had unholstered his weapon.

i hope this scum bag gets blasted.

I think they ougta have cops with CAR's or MP-5's in court houses.

[11F5S]

Fact: Courts have security systems/proceedures to prevent weapons from getting into the court house.

Do you think the metal detector phyiscally disarms someone? What system/procedure is going to stop an armed assailant in a building full of unarmed people? Of course not and I never suggested that. Take a deep breath and read carefully before you engage your keyboard.


Where did I say anything about banning armed officers in the courthouse?
Your words:

This incident certainly raises issues about the prudence of the current policy of guns inside the court room.

By saying this I assume you are talking about whether or not these deputies are armed, are you not? It's not wise to assume anything.

Again, read carefully before engaging your keyboard.

Have you ever been on a jury, been a witness, or even been inside a courtroom during a criminal trial?

It appears to me that you don't know the difference between a courthouse and a courtroom?



How did he obtain the weapon he was used?

Illegally. The "how" in this case does not matter.

When discussing a particular incident (as we are here) the facts of the case are the only things that really matter.

What if he would have disarmed a police officer on the street in front of the courthouse? Would we then need to raise the issue of the prudence of arming police officers on the street?

Totally irrelevant to this incident. You need to learn to stick to the subject.

[11F5S]

So what if the assailant would have come in already armed? What are the deputies supposed to use then, harsh language?

Fact: Courts have security systems/proceedures to prevent weapons from getting into the court house.

Where did I say anything about banning armed officers in the courthouse?

Well this didn't work the suspect should have been cuffed!

Fact: This wasn't caused by a breach of courthouse screening.

Fact: If the deputy in the courtroom wasn't armed 3 people wouldn't be dead of gunshot wounds.

IMO, It is a bad policy to have armed LEO's closely handling prisoners. I know a few Judges who agree with me.

Are you sure he wasn't handcuffed? As I have heard he over-powered a deputy who was guarding him and there wasn't a holding cell in this particular the courtroom.



Also three people are dead due to the fact that a person who was due to be retried for kidnapping and rape, killed them.

How did he obtain the weapon he was used?


Not sure if you read the articles before responding, but please see the following :cantbeli:


[b]According to reports, the suspect grabbed a gun from a court official, fired, and then fled.


:cantbeli: YOU.

[Karmapolice]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

You really should see a doctor and have your meds adjusted.

Fvk u you phony prick. You're probably not even real Special Forces, you fvking poser.

You sir are a dumb ass, One the dude who did this was accused of rape and murder, I don’t know may innocent people who where accused of something like that, that would kill a judge and officers to get out of the court since that would actually make them a criminal. Second that one judge you mentioned might have been a prick but what kind of cases was she handling when you saw it. Also most case require a decision by a jury of your peers not the judge alone unless you’re watching stupid tv court shows like judge Mathis which generally don’t not deal with serious cases. Justice is blind but We also have the ability to appeal a courts decision, I think out court system is quite fair compared to other countries where they kill you for breaking some thing we would consider a trivial law. not stupid Oh yes and how could I forget RIP for those who lost there lives.

[Legion]

"resisted enroute to the station and an officer had no choice but to use force to prevent further loss of life"...

I like it!

LEO are proffesionals, not kids. You dont think there would be an inquiry of how the suspect in custody "resisted" and there was no other use of force but deadly force? Officer here a year back, just got convicted of manslaughter two months ago for shooting a man who tried to take his pistol from him when the officer was putting the man in the local cell. Inside source says jury said the officer should only have shot the man once, not twice. Officer is currently appealing the decision.

I am absolutely sure there is an inquiry into every use of deadly force by law enforcement. I also never stated that officers were not professional or "kids". My comment was simply stating IMHO that would be the best ending to this saga (unless of course the perp does himself in).

Officers here in Texas shot and killed a person who himself killed 3 people and shot up a courthouse and I think everybody can agree that was "justified".

[Legion]

So what if the assailant would have come in already armed? What are the deputies supposed to use then, harsh language?

Fact: Courts have security systems/proceedures to prevent weapons from getting into the court house.

Where did I say anything about banning armed officers in the courthouse?

Well this didn't work the suspect should have been cuffed!

Fact: This wasn't caused by a breach of courthouse screening.

Fact: If the deputy in the courtroom wasn't armed 3 people wouldn't be dead of gunshot wounds.

IMO, It is a bad policy to have armed LEO's closely handling prisoners. I know a few Judges who agree with me.

Are you sure he wasn't handcuffed? As I have heard he over-powered a deputy who was guarding him and there wasn't a holding cell in this particular the courtroom.



Also three people are dead due to the fact that a person who was due to be retried for kidnapping and rape, killed them.

How did he obtain the weapon he was used?


Not sure if you read the articles before responding, but please see the following :cantbeli:


[b]According to reports, the suspect grabbed a gun from a court official, fired, and then fled.


:cantbeli: YOU.



Fact: Being dead of death is the same as being dead of a gunshot wound.

The story I was reading at the time said nothing of this person already being in custody. I agree that the guards inside a jail/prison should not be armed with a firearm. This is the reason officers check their weapons upon entering these facilities.


It's not wise to assume anything.

OK. Then spell it out.


Have you ever been on a jury, been a witness, or even been inside a courtroom during a criminal trial?

Yes, yes, and yes.


It appears to me that you don't know the difference between a courthouse and a courtroom?

What is that a trick question? A courtroom is inside a courthouse separated by a door, usually wood.


Totally irrelevant to this incident. You need to learn to stick to the subject.

That being said how does the question of whether I have ever been in a courtroom pertain to this incident, counselor? I had nothing at all to do with this incident. If you are saying that, in a web forum we cannot speculate, we might just as well stop posting.

[FutureGrunt]

Any background information on the guy? Is he just that lucky to shoot 3 people and escape or does he have military training?

[americanbychoice]

On Fox this morning, they were saying that prisoners routinely aren't handcuffed/restrained in court these days.

Why is that so? They don't want to bias the jury into thinking that the accused is guilty... subliminally, you see a man in handcuffs, and you think he's done something wrong.

I have no idea if this particular scumbag was cuffed or not... and no matter how dumb it was to be lax with a firearm around such a scumbag, the scumbag was the one who shot those people.

[Aerosoul]

On Fox this morning, they were saying that prisoners routinely aren't handcuffed/restrained in court these days.

Why is that so? They don't want to bias the jury into thinking that the accused is guilty... subliminally, you see a man in handcuffs, and you think he's done something wrong.

I have no idea if this particular scumbag was cuffed or not... and no matter how dumb it was to be lax with a firearm around such a scumbag, the scumbag was the one who shot those people.

The day before, the jury left, then he was handcuffed and taken. They also discovered a metal object in each of his shoes that day.

Today, however, I am not sure what the situation was. Seems to be there should have more than one deputy escorting him. And if he was not handcuffed, how did he overpower her? This whole thing is ****ed right up.

[samjung23]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

You really should see a doctor and have your meds adjusted.

Fvk u you phony prick. You're probably not even real Special Forces, you fvking poser.

You sir are a dumb ass, One the dude who did this was accused of rape and murder, I don’t know may innocent people who where accused of something like that, that would kill a judge and officers to get out of the court since that would actually make them a criminal. Second that one judge you mentioned might have been a prick but what kind of cases was she handling when you saw it. Also most case require a decision by a jury of your peers not the judge alone unless you’re watching stupid tv court shows like judge Mathis which generally don’t not deal with serious cases. Justice is blind but We also have the ability to appeal a courts decision, I think out court system is quite fair compared to other countries where they kill you for breaking some thing we would consider a trivial law. not stupid Oh yes and how could I forget RIP for those who lost there lives.

I don't know what this guy did and didn't do. I just know that there are some dumb ignorant people in Georgia. He must have had a reason to shoot the deputy, reporter and judge. Maybe he's not the biggest boy scout on the block, but he probably may have gotten the shaft by the law.

[CG51]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

You really should see a doctor and have your meds adjusted.

Fvk u you phony prick. You're probably not even real Special Forces, you fvking poser.

You sir are a dumb ass, One the dude who did this was accused of rape and murder, I don’t know may innocent people who where accused of something like that, that would kill a judge and officers to get out of the court since that would actually make them a criminal. Second that one judge you mentioned might have been a prick but what kind of cases was she handling when you saw it. Also most case require a decision by a jury of your peers not the judge alone unless you’re watching stupid tv court shows like judge Mathis which generally don’t not deal with serious cases. Justice is blind but We also have the ability to appeal a courts decision, I think out court system is quite fair compared to other countries where they kill you for breaking some thing we would consider a trivial law. not stupid Oh yes and how could I forget RIP for those who lost there lives.

I don't know what this guy did and didn't do. I just know that there are some dumb ignorant people in Georgia. He must have had a reason to shoot the deputy, reporter and judge. Maybe he's not the biggest boy scout on the block, but he probably may have gotten the shaft by the law.

holy **** your a complete loser...you actually believe these people had it coming? hopefully he will drop you next...

[11F5S]

I can't speak for others, but I for one feel that the administrators should give serious consideration to the possibilty of terminating samjung83's posting privledges on MP.net

He is a despicable piece of trash.

[Maine Finn]

I can't speak for others, but I for one feel that the administrators should give serious consideration to the possibilty of terminating samjung83's posting privledges on MP.net

He is a despicable piece of trash.

Agreed. A PM is sitting in Hood's inbox already.

[Zoomie]

Im betting that the murderer probably tried fighting the guard, which is why the guard had unholstered his weapon.

Nope, the guy just overpowered the female officer and took her gun. It wasn't one of those holsters where other people can't remove the gun.


I think they ougta have cops with CAR's or MP-5's in court houses.
:roll: Ya, and have something like this happen, and make it only worse because they have a MP5? Giving the cops more powerful guns isn't going to do a thing, the problem lies with the cops in their procedure of moving the criminals around. If they get that fixed, then there'd be no need for the heavy firepower.

[samjung23]

Did you guys read my first post?

I just said that the guy may not have felt he was getting a fair trial! I didn't say he should wage war on the whole Georgian police department!

He's guilty as charged! No doubt about it! And I extend my sympathies to all those that died! Did you read my first post? Read it again.

He was getting retried, we don't know the whole story.

So are you going to ban me because I tried to bring that up? Get a life, you guys don't ban Helex or budgie for saying that crap.

You guys on this forum are sad anyway. Trying to come on the internet and pose like you're big bad military dudes when most of you know you're in high school or burned out adults dreaming of special ops fantasies...whoooo!

You, 115FS, you are worst of all. You are why foreigners detest America.

I won't say anything more other than I respect my country, and our nation's law enforcement. I just brought up the possibility this man may have thought he was not getting the proper justice. Unfortunately, he decided to use violence to get his message out.

You decide what you will. PM the "teacher" and "tell" on me you cowards. Christ...

[samjung23]

I can't speak for others, but I for one feel that the administrators should give serious consideration to the possibilty of terminating samjung83's posting privledges on MP.net

He is a despicable piece of trash.

Agreed. A PM is sitting in Hood's inbox already.

Dude, do you know how sad this is? You're telling on someone in a message board.

Life in Maine must be boring.

[Haiw]

You, 115FS, you are worst of all. You are why foreigners detest America.
Huh? I'm a foreigner, and I'd probably like America more if more people were like him. ;) Don't speak for the foreigners.

[samjung23]

You, 115FS, you are worst of all. You are why foreigners detest America.
Huh? I'm a foreigner, and I'd probably like America more if more people were like him. ;) Don't speak for the foreigners.

Right, just as you speak for all foreigners too, right? ;)

[hank]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

I am in the Fulton County legal system and I take great offense at the notion that anyone deserves what happened today. I've never been in front of Judge Barnes, but I've been in other Fulton County Courts. Does that mean I deserve to get shot in the head?

What the f**k does Nancy Grace have to do with Judge Barnes? Why would you even attempt to compare them, or justify Judge Barnes' death if he was like her? Does she deserve to be shot in the head because you don't like her? You are an idiot.

Maybe when you graduate from high school and leave mommy and daddy's house you'll need the help of a prosecutor or a judge or a policeman. They'll help you despite the fact that you a complete jack*ss moron. Funny how the system works. Judge Barnes gave his life today for morons like you and now you bash him and his profession and the legal community in his town on the internet.

Judge Barnes was a fine man. He was actively involved in his community and he was a fair and compassionate judge. Its a sad day for Atlanta and the legal profession. Also, remember that a court reporter and a sheriff's deputy outside the court building were shot and killed. The guard who lost her gun to the criminal was also seriously wounded.

Instead of running your mouths like the little turd you are, why don't you take a minute and think about the people that needlessly died today. It doesn't do any good to say RIP after you say "I understand". Kind of defeats the purpose.

I don't come around here much anymore because of bullsh*t like this.

hank out

[hank]

I don't know what this guy did and didn't do. I just know that there are some dumb ignorant people in Georgia. He must have had a reason to shoot the deputy, reporter and judge. Maybe he's not the biggest boy scout on the block, but he probably may have gotten the shaft by the law.

Samjung23, you are jackass moron. What a complete **** for brains.

hank

[samjung23]

Ever seen Nancy Grace on headline News or Court TV? She used to be a Fulton Country prosecutor. She is the dumbest, most vile television personality AROUND! She judges people before they are even tried!

I can see why the dude went nuts and shot everybody, if he had to be tried by a pig like her! I really hope everyone in the Fulton county legal system is not like her.

RIP anyway to all those who died.

I am in the Fulton County legal system and I take great offense at the notion that anyone deserves what happened today. I've never been in front of Judge Barnes, but I've been in other Fulton County Courts. Does that mean I deserve to get shot in the head?

What the f**k does Nancy Grace have to do with Judge Barnes? Why would you even attempt to compare them, or justify Judge Barnes' death if he was like her? Does she deserve to be shot in the head because you don't like her? You are an idiot.

Maybe when you graduate from high school and leave mommy and daddy's house you'll need the help of a prosecutor or a judge or a policeman. They'll help you despite the fact that you a complete jack*ss moron. Funny how the system works. Judge Barnes gave his life today for morons like you and now you bash him and his profession and the legal community in his town on the internet.

Judge Barnes was a fine man. He was actively involved in his community and he was a fair and compassionate judge. Its a sad day for Atlanta and the legal profession. Also, remember that a court reporter and a sheriff's deputy outside the court building were shot and killed. The guard who lost her gun to the criminal was also seriously wounded.

Instead of running your mouths like the little turd you are, why don't you take a minute and think about the people that needlessly died today. It doesn't do any good to say RIP after you say "I understand". Kind of defeats the purpose.

I don't come around here much anymore because of bullsh*t like this.

hank out

I never criticized Judge Barnes or the staff. I simply mentioned that the perp may have not gotten a fair deal from the prosecutors, police, the law in general, and felt compelled to act. He may have been guilty of a crime, but who knows, maybe he had false charges added and he was pissed. It was his retrial. You always have to look for motive. Why was he retried?

My sympathies go out to all those hurt, I mean no disrespect. But you have to look past this and see if this guy was not getting a fair deal. I heard he was getting possibly 14 years...why would he kill three people and run away in vain? He just ruined his life today. I think there needs to be an investigation into this man's case, to see if he was wronged in any way.

I'm not saying this as an ACLU liberal; I'm saying this as a concerned citizen that wants everyone to get fair justice. If he raped and assaulted someone, he should pay the price. But if for some reason, the scales of justice were tipped against him or that certain charges weren't fair, this should be corrected. Not only does this warp justice, it only serves to embolden prisoners to commit such drastic acts such as what happened earlier today.

Do you all understand? I apologize for any misunderstanding.

As the legal system says, you are innocent until proven guilty. Let the upcoming investigation reveal what was the defendant's reason to kill three people. Then the Atlanta legal system can make corrections. After that, let the man be judged and punished for his crimes.

That is all.

[samjung23]

I don't know what this guy did and didn't do. I just know that there are some dumb ignorant people in Georgia. He must have had a reason to shoot the deputy, reporter and judge. Maybe he's not the biggest boy scout on the block, but he probably may have gotten the shaft by the law.

Samjung23, you are jackass moron. What a complete **** for brains.

hank

Bless your heart.

[hood]

I can't speak for others, but I for one feel that the administrators should give serious consideration to the possibilty of terminating samjung83's posting privledges on MP.net

He is a despicable piece of trash.

All set. :)

[Karmapolice]

Yes you are innocent until proven guilty but that fact still give you no right to end the lives of those people, Violence is not the best means to prove your innocence since it does nothing but incriminate you more. You act as if it was all right that he did this and that he was justified to do this and that is right down sickening.

I just know that there are some dumb ignorant people in Georgia

Name a state hell a few 100 square feet anywhere where this is not true, there are ignorant people all around there are ignorant people in the federal government does that mean that everyone in the US should kill every politician regardless of weather they are ignorant at all. You’re saying just cause there is one the rest must be and that is just as ignorant if not more.

, but he probably may have gotten the shaft by the law.

That is still no damn excuse for killing people, he did that **** in cold blood.

[hank]

He just ruined his life today. I think there needs to be an investigation into this man's case, to see if he was wronged in any way.

I'm not saying this as an ACLU liberal; I'm saying this as a concerned citizen that wants everyone to get fair justice. If he raped and assaulted someone, he should pay the price. But if for some reason, the scales of justice were tipped against him or that certain charges weren't fair, this should be corrected. Not only does this warp justice, it only serves to embolden prisoners to commit such drastic acts such as what happened earlier today.

He ruined a little bit more than his life. He still has his. How would killing three people "correct" a warped justice. You are just talking crazy. Where do you get all this?

Facts - Retrial doesn't in any way indicate unfairness to anyone. To the contrary, the fact that he got a retrial means there was something unfair about the first trial that Judge Barnes was attempting to correct. Judges do not order retrials lightly. Dockets are full and having to do one case twice is a last resort.

I don't care if you are in the ACLU and I'm not a law and order type. I do think its funny that you judge the Atlanta legal system based on a CNN reporter who happens to be and ex-prosecutor. Maybe you know what you're talking about, but I doubt it. But none of this even remotely supports the idea that killing a judge is justified by anything. Maybe if you actually knew anything about the legal system, instead of what you see on CNN it might change my opinion.

As for my heart, I appreciate the blessing. I'll say a little prayer for you, the shooter, Judge Barnes, the court reporter, both deputies, and all the ignorant people in Georgia tonight.

hank

[callous]

The guy was on trail for the second time(his first trial ended in a hung jury). He commented to the prosecuter that she was doing a much better job this time. He was facing life in prison because he pulled agun on his ex-girlfriend tied her up at her appartment. Brought in a cooler full of food and raped her for three days.

RIP to those who died

[Sayeret]

Im betting that the murderer probably tried fighting the guard, which is why the guard had unholstered his weapon.

No, it sounds like the criminal just knocked over the female officer and grabbed her gun, right after she fell over. Even if the officer had time to react she wouldn't have pulled out her gun since they don't use them unless the other person is armed with a gun, knife, or some other kind of lethal weapon. She probably would've used a taser or night stick.

I think they ougta have cops with CAR's or MP-5's in court houses.

Seems a little excessive. I haven't heard of any times in which the officers in the court houses being outgunned by someone.


Hopefully this guy will get caught and punished.

[Fallosophy]

UPDATE..well maybe not much of one. I am not too impressed with the FBI or GBI. They have made a costly assumption. It is quite possible that Nichols is still downtown based on the fact that the accord never left the garage. The reports were telling people to be on the lookout all day for that car. In fact he ditched it by about 9:25 - 9:30. The information I have seen doesn't show him leaving the parking garage right away.


Worst case scenario, and it looks like this may be true, he has another hostage with him and that person's car.


hopefully this will be resolved soon