View Full Version : Something like this awaits terrorists worldwide...
NcDeuce
11-12-2003, 08:24 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/special_forces-afghanistan/d_sfa07.jpg
U.S. Army Special Forces
http://drs.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=blackhawk+mh-60/v=2/l=IVI/*-http://globalspecops.com/gallery/wp800/mh60gpavehawklz800.jpg
U.S. Air Force Special Operations
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U.S. Army 1st SFOD-Delta
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U.S. Navy SEALS
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U.S. Army Rangers
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U.S. Army 101st Airborne Division
http://www.specialoperations.com/Aviation/Little_Birds/littlebrd.jpg
U.S. Army 160th SOAR
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U.S. Army 82nd Airborne Division
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U.S. Army 10th Mountain Division
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U.S. Marine Corps Force Recon
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U.S. Air Force Special Operations
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British SAS
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Australian SASR
http://www.soc.mil/images/MH-60K_lift.jpg
U.S. Army 160th SOAR
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/gulf_war_2_british_forces_operation_telic/optelic120.jpg
British
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/allied_poland/e_pol02.jpg
Polish
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Australian
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British
FallenAngel
11-12-2003, 08:27 PM
woot woot woot
note: like how you threw in the aussie for PC ;)
NcDeuce
11-12-2003, 08:28 PM
It's a team effort :hug:
EvanL
11-12-2003, 08:36 PM
Team effort eh?
Ill show ya some more team effort ;)
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/allied_canada/b_jtf01.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/allied_canada/c_cdn08.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/allied_canada/c_cdn12.jpg
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/allied_canada/can_sniper.jpg
EvanL
11-12-2003, 08:44 PM
Funny how since the war in Iraq started an Canada stayed out of the action, our anti-terror role has began to be overseen by the world. Strangely this always happens to us. Like in WW2. Most people only know the role that Canadiuans played as being either American or British. I guess when your a quiet country you tend to get overlooked after time. But as we all know Canadians can fight like a MOFO when we need to. i guess thats what happens when you piss off a quiet peace loving country, with a fetish for beer anrd rough sports.
Mad Dog
11-12-2003, 08:56 PM
Warning picture is of graphic nature...
http://www.glocktalk.com/attachment.php?s=3fe6d3d24d76893e633fe174f130ca54&postid=1321771[/url]
usa320
11-12-2003, 08:58 PM
.50 to the head i assume?
Ratamacue
11-12-2003, 09:02 PM
GET SOME!!! woot
(not for the headshot picture...that's vicious, man)
Operation Ivy
11-12-2003, 09:08 PM
Forgot this beast woot ;) ........the graphic picture is very graphic
http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Tank13.jpg
DE_Six
11-12-2003, 09:13 PM
.50 to the head i assume?
7.62x51 could have done that. I've seen an exit wound the size of a small plate on the neck of a deer, for an entry wound the size of a dime. The head was merely hanging by the skin.
The skull is finely pressured cavity. Put enough pressure on a given point, it will burst like a melon.
BTW, this pic is gruesome...
Guttorm
11-12-2003, 10:02 PM
Great pic's TF160...
But that other one... I actually got sick to my stomach watching it...
It was a bit more graphic then I expected... :|
jlanni
11-12-2003, 10:14 PM
HOLY SH*T that picture is gonna give me night mares LOL! you werent kidding when you said "graphic"
Marxist203
11-12-2003, 10:21 PM
Funny how since the war in Iraq started an Canada stayed out of the action, our anti-terror role has began to be overseen by the world. Strangely this always happens to us. Like in WW2. Most people only know the role that Canadiuans played as being either American or British. I guess when your a quiet country you tend to get overlooked after time. But as we all know Canadians can fight like a MOFO when we need to. i guess thats what happens when you piss off a quiet peace loving country, with a fetish for beer anrd rough sports.
Just watched a documentary on the History Channel in Canada here...In Caen, Canadian troops got a 6-1 kill ratio on the Germans. When you watch the "Week of rememberance" programming on that channel you really start to feel pride. People ask "What defines canada as a nation" and people will say that its our reputation as Negotiators...no, Leave the Bargaining to Norway, they excel at it.
Our Nation has been born in warfare, people think that Canadians are weak willed peacenic's and the government tries to reinforce this. Canada is a nation of Soldiers, the Liberals need to remind everyone that our reputation was not of peace keepers, but of Peace Makers.
James
11-12-2003, 10:26 PM
But as we all know Canadians can fight like a MOFO when we need to. i guess thats what happens when you piss off a quiet peace loving country, with a fetish for beer anrd rough sports.
I was in France a while back, visiting old battlefields from the Great War. I saw a very moving memorial for a regiment from Newfoundland that went over the top at the Somme on July 1, 1916. Within an hour, they had suffered more than 90% casualties, but they still fought like bastards.
If you ever find yourself in France, try and visit Vimy Ridge. Much of the battlefield has been preserved, and one can take a tour of the tunnels that the Canadian grunts sweated in before they blew their mines and swarmed out to take the ridge.
Jack Mehoff
11-12-2003, 10:30 PM
Fear this
http://www.nastyburger.com/hand1.jpg
Marxist203
11-12-2003, 10:41 PM
But as we all know Canadians can fight like a MOFO when we need to. i guess thats what happens when you piss off a quiet peace loving country, with a fetish for beer anrd rough sports.
I was in France a while back, visiting old battlefields from the Great War. I saw a very moving memorial for a regiment from Newfoundland that went over the top at the Somme on July 1, 1916. Within an hour, they had suffered more than 90% casualties, but they still fought like bastards.
If you ever find yourself in France, try and visit Vimy Ridge. Much of the battlefield has been preserved, and one can take a tour of the tunnels that the Canadian grunts sweated in before they blew their mines and swarmed out to take the ridge.
Yeah, the Newfies are the brunt of alot of Jokes here in Canada, but people who actually know what they sacrificed in both World Wars they begin to respect them.
Until after WW2 Newfoundland was its own country, it was bankrupted by WW2 and joined the Dominion of Canada so that we would help pay off the debt. The Newfoundland Regiment in WW1 was 1000 men, they went over the top think that they would be supported by the PPCLI and the British. But due to a communications error the British didn't even know the attack was going on and the PPCLI that it was going on a day later than it actually was. British commanders had the Newfies put reflective tags on their back packs, when they had to retreat they only gave away their positions.
Of 1000 men to go over the top, only 60 had managed to walk away uninjured. Not a single household in Newfoundland was left unaffected by what had happened in that battle.
Seoulstriker
11-12-2003, 10:47 PM
Fear this
http://www.nastyburger.com/hand1.jpg
please, don't Jack Me Off. :P
EvanL
11-12-2003, 10:49 PM
Newfies are truly amazing people. tough as nails as well and funny as ****.
Jack Mehoff
11-12-2003, 11:01 PM
What is "newfies"? some kind of Canadian slang?
Ratamacue
11-12-2003, 11:04 PM
Newfy = person from Newfoundland, also used as a nickname for the Newfoundland breed of dog.
wholagun
11-13-2003, 12:00 AM
Suprised to Jack Meoff doesn' have harry palms. :)
Andyman
11-13-2003, 12:07 AM
Or studded palms... geez what kinda jerking material is that :cantbeli:
Kingpin
11-13-2003, 12:44 AM
Good pics.
But regular army can't deal with terrorism.
SF can do more but definitely they can't perform all job.
Without political process this war coludn't be won.
US took over Afganistan, US took over Iraq. And? Terrorism stopped? No! Terrorism is on the rise. Turn on TV.
So i just can wish good luck to boys on those pics ;)
[AFSOC]
11-13-2003, 12:47 AM
First of all, it wasnt just the US WHO TOOK OVER THE AFGHANISTAN.............
I take that to offence seeing how countries like CANADA, GERMANY, HOLLAND, BRITAIN and more that are also occupying that country.
In fact....Canada and Germany have one of most significant amount of troops there.
Jack Mehoff
11-13-2003, 12:49 AM
Suprised to Jack Meoff doesn' have harry palms. :)
i have a wife for the last 3 years and blah blah blah ;)
Kingpin
11-13-2003, 01:39 AM
First of all, it wasnt just the US WHO TOOK OVER THE AFGHANISTAN.............
I take that to offence seeing how countries like CANADA, GERMANY, HOLLAND, BRITAIN and more that are also occupying that country.
In fact....Canada and Germany have one of most significant amount of troops there.
Agree about current roles. Disagree about action in 2001-2002.
HumanShield
11-13-2003, 02:30 AM
http://www.specwargear.com/images/specials-shotgun%20folding%20stock-9.jpg
http://www.specwargear.com/images/weapon-spr-2.jpg
http://www.specwargear.com/images/specials-TRG%201.jpg
Speaking of Canadian-American team effort they should team up JTF-2 and SFOD-D and recreate The Devil's Brigade (1st Special Service Force) like back in dubya dubya two. woot
Flagg
11-13-2003, 04:25 AM
Funny how since the war in Iraq started an Canada stayed out of the action, our anti-terror role has began to be overseen by the world. Strangely this always happens to us. Like in WW2. Most people only know the role that Canadiuans played as being either American or British. I guess when your a quiet country you tend to get overlooked after time. But as we all know Canadians can fight like a MOFO when we need to. i guess thats what happens when you piss off a quiet peace loving country, with a fetish for beer anrd rough sports.
Get in the queue with the Kiwis mate!
At least we don't bleat like sheep about it.
Stalky-Italy
11-13-2003, 07:32 AM
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Vance
11-13-2003, 07:45 AM
First of all, it wasnt just the US WHO TOOK OVER THE AFGHANISTAN.............
I take that to offence seeing how countries like CANADA, GERMANY, HOLLAND, BRITAIN and more that are also occupying that country.
In fact....Canada and Germany have one of most significant amount of troops there.
*Bleat bleat bleat*
If you wanted to make a contribution instead of posting something we already know, then post pictures of those countries, like EvanLlyod did. No need to get all hissy, this is a team-work thread.
Tiger
11-13-2003, 08:18 AM
http://www.gamesitaly.com/forums/uploads/post-167-1068726387.jpg
LOL rofl
Zach R.
11-13-2003, 09:25 AM
HMM!! BLAHHHHHHRRRRAAAHHHHH!!!!!
*splat*
Sorry about the keyboard miss Johnson.
Zach R.
11-13-2003, 09:27 AM
Well, I think I'm ready for war. Maybe not.
BLARAHHAHRRRAHA!!!!
*splattter*
Sorry again miss Johnson
NcDeuce
11-13-2003, 11:09 AM
First of all, it wasnt just the US WHO TOOK OVER THE AFGHANISTAN.............
I take that to offence seeing how countries like CANADA, GERMANY, HOLLAND, BRITAIN and more that are also occupying that country.
In fact....Canada and Germany have one of most significant amount of troops there.
Are you taking offense to those countries contributing to the cause? Or are you mad about something else?
Salty Dog
11-13-2003, 11:30 AM
nice thread
NcDeuce
11-13-2003, 11:38 AM
http://www.kelwick.karoo.net/Images/Classic%20Pics/Die%20Hard%2003.jpg
"Yippy-ki-yay, [melonfarmer]!"
spier
11-13-2003, 01:18 PM
Speaking of Americas "best of the best", I recieved this link from a friend the other day, I call it: Sleeping in the sun. (http://earth.prohosting.com/didums/dir1/iraq.uncensored.asf)
DEMSPEC
11-13-2003, 02:45 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/special_forces-afghanistan/d_sfa07.jpg
Isn't this Delta?
cause i saw a photo book with Delta operators in Afghanistan and this picture was in it to
Flagg
11-13-2003, 02:46 PM
*Bleat bleat bleat*
I'm with ya! I wish some more photos of Kiwis in Afghanistan and Iraq would surface....I've only seen a couple in our Army News paper.....and a handful of personal photos taken.
Andyman
11-13-2003, 02:56 PM
Great photos from eveyone. I remember when I was learning the proper ****e position in BMQ training and we were doing it on the pavement and I asked if we would get knee pads or elbow pads. My section leader looked at me surprised and said "No you get calouses" <- (by the way I have no idea if I spelled that correctly) :roll:
EvanL
11-13-2003, 03:05 PM
Great photos from eveyone. I remember when I was learning the proper ****e position in BMQ training and we were doing it on the pavement and I asked if we would get knee pads or elbow pads. My section leader looked at me surprised and said "No you get calouses" <- (by the way I have no idea if I spelled that correctly) :roll:
Thats his way of saying dont be a pussy and stop complaining. ;)
DownTown1
11-13-2003, 03:28 PM
http://auction2.inetu.net/member/aldepal/Ghosts.jpg
Andyman
11-13-2003, 03:46 PM
Yeah I figured that. Thanks for the remark smart ass. I was wondering if all troops get issued knee pads and elbow pads in the field.
Marxist203
11-13-2003, 05:53 PM
Funny how since the war in Iraq started an Canada stayed out of the action, our anti-terror role has began to be overseen by the world. Strangely this always happens to us. Like in WW2. Most people only know the role that Canadiuans played as being either American or British. I guess when your a quiet country you tend to get overlooked after time. But as we all know Canadians can fight like a MOFO when we need to. i guess thats what happens when you piss off a quiet peace loving country, with a fetish for beer anrd rough sports.
Get in the queue with the Kiwis mate!
At least we don't bleat like sheep about it.
I can understand what you're going through...you live next to the Aussies, the biggest bunch of Drunken Braggards and Liars you can ever meet.
You know they say if you Punch an Australian in the face he'll know why...haha
We live next to the States here in Canada...so I guess its the same, but if you punch an American in the face he'll just slap you with a lawsuit. :(
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
11-13-2003, 06:34 PM
Im not here to say "who's armies better then who's". But from what my grandpa told me about Korea is that the only soldiers that were feared were Canadians. They didnt want anything to do with Canadians. Same with Germans. They were not too fond of fighting Canadians either. In everywar we fight our ass's off....we dont get given respect we earn it.
Chris196
11-13-2003, 06:38 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Task_Force_20_removes_bodies_of_Oday_and_Qusay
Ratamacue
11-13-2003, 06:45 PM
Im not here to say "who's armies better then who's". But from what my grandpa told me about Korea is that the only soldiers that were feared were Canadians. They didnt want anything to do with Canadians. Same with Germans. They were not too fond of fighting Canadians either. In everywar we fight our ass's off....we dont get given respect we earn it.
"Panic sweeps my men when they are facing the American Marines."
- Captured North Korean Major
And the Germans called Marines "teufelhunden" or "devil dogs" in World War I.
Gotta give you Canadians credit though. You've got some hard-fighting sons o' bitches.
Aussie2093
11-13-2003, 08:59 PM
I can understand what you're going through...you live next to the Aussies, the biggest bunch of Drunken Braggards and Liars you can ever meet.
You know they say if you Punch an Australian in the face he'll know why...haha
rofl p-)
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
11-14-2003, 12:12 AM
U know whats kinda ironic? I've never seen a war movie that has a focus's on Canadian regiments in war....let alone mention them in a couple sentence's. :(
Flagg
11-14-2003, 12:16 AM
Hey Aussie2093,
The beer population is gonna take a lot of casualties in this Saturday's cross-ditch matchup......I hope you don't feel too sad on Sunday...you still got Cricket ;)
EvanL
11-14-2003, 12:39 AM
U know whats kinda ironic? I've never seen a war movie that has a focus's on Canadian regiments in war....let alone mention them in a couple sentence's. :(Check out the movie the devils brigade. I got it on DVD, its awesome. When our guys go to the camp to train with the yanks we all march in in file with the bagpipes playing wearing our kilts looking all proffessional, while all the yanks are ex-cons given the choice of fight or war. Its truly a good movie.
[AFSOC]
11-14-2003, 12:41 AM
Speaking of Canadian-American team effort they should team up JTF-2 and SFOD-D and recreate The Devil's Brigade (1st Special Service Force) like back in dubya dubya two. woot
Maybe not JTF-2 but bring back the AIRBORNE then start up the DEVIL's BRIGADE.
Saranof
11-14-2003, 07:06 AM
Good pics.
But regular army can't deal with terrorism.
SF can do more but definitely they can't perform all job.
Without political process this war coludn't be won.
US took over Afganistan, US took over Iraq. And? Terrorism stopped? No! Terrorism is on the rise. Turn on TV.
So i just can wish good luck to boys on those pics ;)
Just a small note...
You can kill the terrorist, but you can't kill the cause with guns. You can kill the cause with tolerance and food, shelter and water. That way, you remove the reasons for terorrism.
Aussie2093
11-14-2003, 02:38 PM
Hey Aussie2093,
The beer population is gonna take a lot of casualties in this Saturday's cross-ditch matchup......I hope you don't feel too sad on Sunday...you still got Cricket ;)
Dream on mate, you're going to need that beer to dull the pain of defeat! :petting:
redhawk_six
11-14-2003, 02:49 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/special_forces-afghanistan/d_sfa07.jpg
Isn't this Delta?
cause i saw a photo book with Delta operators in Afghanistan and this picture was in it to
No, just regular Army SF.
usa320
11-14-2003, 03:45 PM
i believe its 5th SF group.
NcDeuce
11-14-2003, 03:54 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/special_forces-afghanistan/d_sfa07.jpg
Isn't this Delta?
cause i saw a photo book with Delta operators in Afghanistan and this picture was in it to
No, just regular Army SF.
Nothing regular about 'em. ;)
DE_Six
11-14-2003, 07:47 PM
Just a small note...
You can kill the terrorist, but you can't kill the cause with guns. You can kill the cause with tolerance and food, shelter and water. That way, you remove the reasons for terorrism.
In absolute terms, I agree that you can't kill a cause with bullets. But compassion and hearts & minds only alleviate the suffering of the poor souls the terrorists recruit to do the deeds, and even then, if you consider how the 9-11 hijackers were upper middle-class, educated young men, you must realize you're not dealing with the desperate underdogs the media sometimes present. You're dealing with fanatics. There will always be this kind of freak around, even in perfect prosperity. And no food will change their sick minds.
Remember, bin Laden declared war on the US back in 1998. He stated that every Muslim should kill Americans and attack their interests anywhere they may be found. His cause then was the presence of US troops on Saudi soil, then it was US troops in Afghanistan, and now in Iraq. The guy doesn't have a cause, he just has an agenda: the destruction of America.
http://www.terrorismfiles.org/individuals/usama_bin_laden.html
You don't feed or shelter people whose goal in life is to destroy you and your people. You fight back. p-)
RealUltimatePower
11-15-2003, 02:12 PM
http://auction2.inetu.net/member/aldepal/Ghosts.jpg
If I were them I'd take a dump in the sandbag and then put it on his head.
NcDeuce
11-15-2003, 02:30 PM
rofl !!!
Nice! woot woot woot :hug: :hug:
SFontaine
11-15-2003, 09:21 PM
I always get a chuckle when you guys get all uppity about not appreciating other countries militaries because you didn't post a pic with them in it.
Most Soldiers perfer being quiet professionals than getting a ton of publicity and having pics of them everywhere.
MARINO
11-16-2003, 10:41 AM
http://members.fortunecity.com/aec1537/MIO/mio/images/Boardings%20UOE%20(2).JPG
Vance
11-16-2003, 10:44 AM
http://members.fortunecity.com/aec1537/MIO/mio/images/Boardings%20UOE%20(2).JPG
The last thing a terrorist sees.
MARINO
11-16-2003, 11:28 AM
this guys are spanish marines, you can see more pics, in psanish mio training
IDFM203
11-16-2003, 11:40 AM
The most feared and awesome anti terrorist “weapon” anywhere in the world......
http://www.atin.org/images/isth/mos.gif
THE MOSSAD............... nuff said!!
(For obvious reasons, other then their logo, I cant show you any pictures but suffice to say they are not one to mess with.)
shalom :D
kinghk
11-16-2003, 02:51 PM
The most feared and awesome anti terrorist ?weapon? anywhere in the world......
Yeah, last time they showed up in Scandinavia, they did a really good job.
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/971129/1997112917.html
IDFM203
11-16-2003, 03:04 PM
"Listen all spy agencies make mistakes. If I were to look critically at other spy agencies, I could go on forever. "
No arguing about that. But this mission looked like it had been done by some amateurs.
1. they shot the wrong guy
2. they shot him on an open street while atleast his wife noticed it, with no less than 13 rounds from a .22 pistol.
3. when they shoot him, they just walked out of their rental car, and back into the same rental car. The very same car which they have rented with their own full name. Withnesses to crime usally write down the number on the licenceplate when they see that the passengeres go out and shot some guy down.
4. while escaping from the police, they drove their car which were already wanted directly to the airport where they got caught just a few minutes later. The person driving the car told the police that they were waiting for another person, who were arrested when he showed up later. listen I agree with you here. This particular operation was done very poorly and it was as Americans would say, a big clusterf*ck or f*ckup.
But again that one failed op. does not take away from the great success that the mossad had in the many other ones that were part of the bigger and for the most part successful operation and overall mission.
The mossad has proven itself over the years to be one if not the best spy agency in the world!!, even in spite of its mistakes (as all spy agencies make)
Again to the many success of that mission....
Despite this aggressive military response, a select group of high-ranking Israeli officials felt that more had to be done. They decided that a message had to be sent not only to those who participated in the Munich massacre, but also to those who might be considering terrorist attacks against their country in the future. Designated "Committee X" and chaired by Israeli Premier Golda Meir and Defense Minister Moshe Dayan, the group authorized the assassination of all individuals involved - directly or indirectly - in the Munich attack. There would be no captures, no arrests. The goal was to kill those they could find, and in so doing, terrorize those they could not.
In order to carry out this task, Mossad activated its assassination unit, known as the kidon - Hebrew for "bayonet." Kidon teams have been responsible for a number of high profile assassinations, including Dr. Gerald Bull, designer of the Iraqi supergun, and Nasser Issa, also known as "The Engineer," a master bombmaker for the terrorist group HAMAS. These teams would be commanded by Mike Harari, a senior Mossad agent.
At the time of the Munich attack, the kidon were housed within Mossad's Metsada department, known today as Komemiute. The kidon was composed of approximately 36 operators divided into three 12-man teams. Typically, two of these teams were undergoing training in Israel at any given time, with the remaining team out on a "real-world" operation. Payment for these personnel was deposited into Swiss bank accounts and would be made available to the operators upon completion of their assigned mission.
These teams were unique from those fielded previously by Israel. Instead of informing all operators involved in the operation of the goals, team structure, and other information, the teams were instead tightly compartmentalized: no team was aware of the existence of the others. Additionally, Mossad covertly supported the assassination teams, both operationally and financially. In this way, they would be able to operate with complete autonomy, completely outside the Israeli governmental structure. The only mutual point of contact between all the personnel was Harari. He would provide the list of target names and all other information necessary to achieving the group's goal of hunting down and killing the terrorists.
Harari allowed his men great latitude in their operations, removing rank structure and encouraging them to be creative with their assassinations. Harari didn't just want his targets eliminated, he wanted the terrorists to feel that there was nowhere - absolutely nowhere - that they could go and feel safe from Israeli reprisal. He wanted them to experience the same terror they had inflicted on the Israeli athletes and their families, and would settle for nothing less.
Harari did have one rule, however, about which there could be no doubt: targets would only be acted against after the team had attained one hundred percent identification. If this could not be achieved, no matter how much time or energy had been devoted to a target, the hit was to be called off. He would not permit any "collateral damage."
The List
There were thirty-five targets for whom death warrants had been issued, so the terrorists were divided amongst the teams. On the list of one such team were eleven terrorists known to have played a role in the Munich massacre.
Operating from a covert location in Geneva, this team set out to track down their eleven targets. These included the following:
Adwan, Kamal - Chief of sabotage operations for Al Fatah in Israeli occupied territories
Al-Chir, Hussein Abad - PLO contact with KGB in Cyprus
Al-Kubaisi, Dr. Basil Paoud - Responsible for logistics within the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Boudia, Mohammed - Linked with European PLO
Daoud, Abu - Admitted member of the Black September Organization
Haddad, Dr. Wadi - Chief terrorist linked with Dr. George Habash
Mahshari, Mohmoud - PLO member and coordinator of Munich incident
Nassir, Kamal - Official PLO spokesman and member of the PLO Executive Committee
Salameh, Ali Hassan - Developed and executed the Munich operation
Yussuf, Abu - High ranking PLO official
Zwaiter, Wael - Cousin to Yassir Arafat, organizer of PLO terrorism in Europe
The first selection from the list was Wael Zwaiter, who was then living in an apartment near Rome. The group's weapons specialist facilitated the delivery of five Beretta .22-cailber pistols from Geneva to Italy via a clandestine arms supply network. These were then distributed to the action team that had taken up residence in three separate locations.
The decision to move against Zwaiter was made on 16 October 1972. A support team delivered two shooters to a location near Zwaiter's apartment, while support personnel took up observation posts within visual range of the hit team. Acting according to plan, one of the support vehicles pulled away from the curb and drove off. This clandestinely signaled the shooters that Zwaiter was approaching.
The two men assigned to kill the Palestinian entered the apartment lobby ahead of their quarry. Zwaiter stopped off at a pub across the street in order to make a phone call. The action team expected this, as it had learned that his phone service had been turned off by the local telephone company for lack of payment. His phone call concluded, Zwaiter then walked toward the lobby.
Acting in accordance with Harari's edict, one of the shooters turned on additional lights in the dimly lit space in order to ensure they could positively identify their target. When Zwaiter walked through the door and into the lobby, a voice asked, "Are you Wael Zwaiter?" The answer gave the shooters the confirmation they needed. Simultaneously they drew their Berettas and fired eighteen shots into the terrorist. He died instantly. The action team quickly disappeared, traveling by van to a prearranged safe house.
Israel's second attempt at revenge would differ slightly from the first in that special attention was given to instilling fear into the terrorists that it was stalking. It was becoming clear through the first killing that Israel was capable of conducting assassinations far from the streets of Beirut or Lebanon. The decision was made to make the Palestinian extremists feel that they were not safe, even in the safety of their own homes.
Mahmoud Hamshiri was selected as the second target. For this action, a third party was directed to phone him at home, posing as an Italian journalist. Hamshiri agreed to the "journalist's" request for a telephone interview, which was set for 8 December 1972. Unbeknownst to the terrorist, however, members of the action team had visited his apartment the previous day while their target was out.
So, when the phone rang that afternoon, Hamshiri answered. The voice on the other end asked him to identify himself. When he did, an action team member depressed a button on a remote control device. This sent a silent signal to a detonator and the explosive charge placed in the telephone ignited. Hamshiri, like Zwaiter before him, died quickly and violently.
Four more terrorists, Dr. Basil al-Kubasi, Abad al-Chir, Zaid Muchassi, and Mohammed Boudia met similar fates, and were dead within the next few months at the hands of the Israeli kidon. Muchassi, not on the original list, was included when he assumed the position of PLO contact with the KGB in Cyprus, a position recently vacated by Abad al-Chir. Acting in accordance with their autonomous nature, the kidon personnel determined that if al-Chir had been a target due to the nature of his position, then his replacement would be considered an equally viable selection.
This decision, while proper from the perspective of an clandestine Israeli operator tasked with eliminating a known terrorist, clearly went beyond the mandate laid down by Committee X. Nonetheless, Muchassi was deemed a "target of opportunity" and plans were made to eliminate him. And while the action team did soon achieve its objective, it nearly violated Harari's second mandate covering collateral damage. This occurred when the hit squad attempted to leave the scene of Muchassi's assassination. It found its escape route blocked by his KGB contact. The Israelis shot and killed the Russian when he reached under his coat, a move that signaled he was possibly reaching for a weapon. There was apparently no retaliation against the action team by Harari for this incident, most likely because the KGB agent, though not a terrorist, was not deemed to enjoy same level of innocence as a unwitting civilian.
Having successfully eliminated five of their eleven assigned targets (not including Muchassi), the action team was ordered to return to Israel. Upon their arrival, the team was notified that three original members of the list--Kemel Adwan, Mohamed Youssef Al-Najjar, and Kamal Nasser--had been removed from the list for unspecified reasons. Despite this, the Israeli government still wanted them dead. The three, along with known terrorists, were expected to be present at a meeting in Beirut. Harari wanted the kidon personnel on hand to provide support for a Mossad-directed military action targeting the meeting participants. This joint operation, though a clear departure from the independent covert action conducted previously, proved successful.
On 10 April 1973, Israel launched Operation Spring of Youth. This involved the participation of approximately forty elite commandos from Sayeret Matkal, Sayeret T'zanahim, S-13 (the Israeli equivalent of the U.S. Navy SEALs), and Unit 707 (a since-disbanded Navy special operation unit). The commandos covertly came ashore across a Beirut beach and were delivered to their targets by Mossad drivers. Some of these personnel were assigned specifically to go after Adwan, Al-Najjar and Nasser. These terrorists were killed when their apartments were raided during the assault. Some reports indicate that the current Foreign Minister in Israel, Ehud Barak, took part in this operation while dressed as an Arab woman. By the time Operation Spring of Youth was over, one hundred Palestinians were killed, along with two Israeli commandos
shalom :D
kinghk
11-16-2003, 03:51 PM
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/971129/1997112917.html
First of all great source there :roll:
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One of the first hits from Google. The realted informasjon is correct there, so why the :roll: ?
Listen all spy agencies make mistakes. If I were to look critically at other spy agencies, I could go on forever.
No arguing about that. But this mission looked like it had been done by some amateurs.
1. they shot the wrong guy
2. they shot him on an open street while atleast his wife noticed it, with no less than 13 rounds from a .22 pistol.
3. when they shoot him, they just walked out of their rental car, and back into the same rental car. The very same car which they have rented with their own full name. Withnesses to crime usally write down the number on the licenceplate when they see that the passengeres go out and shot some guy down.
4. while escaping from the police, they drove their car which were already wanted directly to the airport where they got caught just a few minutes later. The person driving the car told the police that they were waiting for another person, who were arrested when he showed up later.
IDFM203
11-16-2003, 04:02 PM
"Listen all spy agencies make mistakes. If I were to look critically at other spy agencies, I could go on forever. "
No arguing about that. But this mission looked like it had been done by some amateurs.
1. they shot the wrong guy
2. they shot him on an open street while atleast his wife noticed it, with no less than 13 rounds from a .22 pistol.
3. when they shoot him, they just walked out of their rental car, and back into the same rental car. The very same car which they have rented with their own full name. Withnesses to crime usally write down the number on the licenceplate when they see that the passengeres go out and shot some guy down.
4. while escaping from the police, they drove their car which were already wanted directly to the airport where they got caught just a few minutes later. The person driving the car told the police that they were waiting for another person, who were arrested when he showed up later. listen I agree with you here. This particular operation was done very poorly and it was as Americans would say, a big clusterf*ck or f*ckup.
But again that one failed op. does not take away from the great success that the mossad had in the many other ones that were part of the bigger and for the most part successful operation and overall mission.
The mossad has proven itself over the years to be one if not the best spy agency in the world!!, even in spite of its mistakes (as all spy agencies make)
Again to the many success of that mission....
Despite this aggressive military response, a select group of high-ranking Israeli officials felt that more had to be done. They decided that a message had to be sent not only to those who participated in the Munich massacre, but also to those who might be considering terrorist attacks against their country in the future. Designated "Committee X" and chaired by Israeli Premier Golda Meir and Defense Minister Moshe Dayan, the group authorized the assassination of all individuals involved - directly or indirectly - in the Munich attack. There would be no captures, no arrests. The goal was to kill those they could find, and in so doing, terrorize those they could not.
In order to carry out this task, Mossad activated its assassination unit, known as the kidon - Hebrew for "bayonet." Kidon teams have been responsible for a number of high profile assassinations, including Dr. Gerald Bull, designer of the Iraqi supergun, and Nasser Issa, also known as "The Engineer," a master bombmaker for the terrorist group HAMAS. These teams would be commanded by Mike Harari, a senior Mossad agent.
At the time of the Munich attack, the kidon were housed within Mossad's Metsada department, known today as Komemiute. The kidon was composed of approximately 36 operators divided into three 12-man teams. Typically, two of these teams were undergoing training in Israel at any given time, with the remaining team out on a "real-world" operation. Payment for these personnel was deposited into Swiss bank accounts and would be made available to the operators upon completion of their assigned mission.
These teams were unique from those fielded previously by Israel. Instead of informing all operators involved in the operation of the goals, team structure, and other information, the teams were instead tightly compartmentalized: no team was aware of the existence of the others. Additionally, Mossad covertly supported the assassination teams, both operationally and financially. In this way, they would be able to operate with complete autonomy, completely outside the Israeli governmental structure. The only mutual point of contact between all the personnel was Harari. He would provide the list of target names and all other information necessary to achieving the group's goal of hunting down and killing the terrorists.
Harari allowed his men great latitude in their operations, removing rank structure and encouraging them to be creative with their assassinations. Harari didn't just want his targets eliminated, he wanted the terrorists to feel that there was nowhere - absolutely nowhere - that they could go and feel safe from Israeli reprisal. He wanted them to experience the same terror they had inflicted on the Israeli athletes and their families, and would settle for nothing less.
Harari did have one rule, however, about which there could be no doubt: targets would only be acted against after the team had attained one hundred percent identification. If this could not be achieved, no matter how much time or energy had been devoted to a target, the hit was to be called off. He would not permit any "collateral damage."
The List
There were thirty-five targets for whom death warrants had been issued, so the terrorists were divided amongst the teams. On the list of one such team were eleven terrorists known to have played a role in the Munich massacre.
Operating from a covert location in Geneva, this team set out to track down their eleven targets. These included the following:
Adwan, Kamal - Chief of sabotage operations for Al Fatah in Israeli occupied territories
Al-Chir, Hussein Abad - PLO contact with KGB in Cyprus
Al-Kubaisi, Dr. Basil Paoud - Responsible for logistics within the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Boudia, Mohammed - Linked with European PLO
Daoud, Abu - Admitted member of the Black September Organization
Haddad, Dr. Wadi - Chief terrorist linked with Dr. George Habash
Mahshari, Mohmoud - PLO member and coordinator of Munich incident
Nassir, Kamal - Official PLO spokesman and member of the PLO Executive Committee
Salameh, Ali Hassan - Developed and executed the Munich operation
Yussuf, Abu - High ranking PLO official
Zwaiter, Wael - Cousin to Yassir Arafat, organizer of PLO terrorism in Europe
The first selection from the list was Wael Zwaiter, who was then living in an apartment near Rome. The group's weapons specialist facilitated the delivery of five Beretta .22-cailber pistols from Geneva to Italy via a clandestine arms supply network. These were then distributed to the action team that had taken up residence in three separate locations.
The decision to move against Zwaiter was made on 16 October 1972. A support team delivered two shooters to a location near Zwaiter's apartment, while support personnel took up observation posts within visual range of the hit team. Acting according to plan, one of the support vehicles pulled away from the curb and drove off. This clandestinely signaled the shooters that Zwaiter was approaching.
The two men assigned to kill the Palestinian entered the apartment lobby ahead of their quarry. Zwaiter stopped off at a pub across the street in order to make a phone call. The action team expected this, as it had learned that his phone service had been turned off by the local telephone company for lack of payment. His phone call concluded, Zwaiter then walked toward the lobby.
Acting in accordance with Harari's edict, one of the shooters turned on additional lights in the dimly lit space in order to ensure they could positively identify their target. When Zwaiter walked through the door and into the lobby, a voice asked, "Are you Wael Zwaiter?" The answer gave the shooters the confirmation they needed. Simultaneously they drew their Berettas and fired eighteen shots into the terrorist. He died instantly. The action team quickly disappeared, traveling by van to a prearranged safe house.
Israel's second attempt at revenge would differ slightly from the first in that special attention was given to instilling fear into the terrorists that it was stalking. It was becoming clear through the first killing that Israel was capable of conducting assassinations far from the streets of Beirut or Lebanon. The decision was made to make the Palestinian extremists feel that they were not safe, even in the safety of their own homes.
Mahmoud Hamshiri was selected as the second target. For this action, a third party was directed to phone him at home, posing as an Italian journalist. Hamshiri agreed to the "journalist's" request for a telephone interview, which was set for 8 December 1972. Unbeknownst to the terrorist, however, members of the action team had visited his apartment the previous day while their target was out.
So, when the phone rang that afternoon, Hamshiri answered. The voice on the other end asked him to identify himself. When he did, an action team member depressed a button on a remote control device. This sent a silent signal to a detonator and the explosive charge placed in the telephone ignited. Hamshiri, like Zwaiter before him, died quickly and violently.
Four more terrorists, Dr. Basil al-Kubasi, Abad al-Chir, Zaid Muchassi, and Mohammed Boudia met similar fates, and were dead within the next few months at the hands of the Israeli kidon. Muchassi, not on the original list, was included when he assumed the position of PLO contact with the KGB in Cyprus, a position recently vacated by Abad al-Chir. Acting in accordance with their autonomous nature, the kidon personnel determined that if al-Chir had been a target due to the nature of his position, then his replacement would be considered an equally viable selection.
This decision, while proper from the perspective of an clandestine Israeli operator tasked with eliminating a known terrorist, clearly went beyond the mandate laid down by Committee X. Nonetheless, Muchassi was deemed a "target of opportunity" and plans were made to eliminate him. And while the action team did soon achieve its objective, it nearly violated Harari's second mandate covering collateral damage. This occurred when the hit squad attempted to leave the scene of Muchassi's assassination. It found its escape route blocked by his KGB contact. The Israelis shot and killed the Russian when he reached under his coat, a move that signaled he was possibly reaching for a weapon. There was apparently no retaliation against the action team by Harari for this incident, most likely because the KGB agent, though not a terrorist, was not deemed to enjoy same level of innocence as a unwitting civilian.
Having successfully eliminated five of their eleven assigned targets (not including Muchassi), the action team was ordered to return to Israel. Upon their arrival, the team was notified that three original members of the list--Kemel Adwan, Mohamed Youssef Al-Najjar, and Kamal Nasser--had been removed from the list for unspecified reasons. Despite this, the Israeli government still wanted them dead. The three, along with known terrorists, were expected to be present at a meeting in Beirut. Harari wanted the kidon personnel on hand to provide support for a Mossad-directed military action targeting the meeting participants. This joint operation, though a clear departure from the independent covert action conducted previously, proved successful.
On 10 April 1973, Israel launched Operation Spring of Youth. This involved the participation of approximately forty elite commandos from Sayeret Matkal, Sayeret T'zanahim, S-13 (the Israeli equivalent of the U.S. Navy SEALs), and Unit 707 (a since-disbanded Navy special operation unit). The commandos covertly came ashore across a Beirut beach and were delivered to their targets by Mossad drivers. Some of these personnel were assigned specifically to go after Adwan, Al-Najjar and Nasser. These terrorists were killed when their apartments were raided during the assault. Some reports indicate that the current Foreign Minister in Israel, Ehud Barak, took part in this operation while dressed as an Arab woman. By the time Operation Spring of Youth was over, one hundred Palestinians were killed, along with two Israeli commandos
shalom :D
Andyman
11-16-2003, 09:49 PM
If I were them I'd take a dump in the sandbag and then put it on his head.
But now you're assuming guilt and that would be wrong...wouldn't it :cantbeli:
NcDeuce
11-18-2003, 07:41 PM
The last thing a terrorist sees.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/furniture/in_depth/world/2001/war_on_terror/special_forces/special_forces_intro.gif
http://students.engr.scu.edu/~jabraham/specwar/specops/us/delta/delta1grey.jpg
http://www.specialforces.net/airforce/ac130_01.jpg
NcDeuce
11-24-2003, 08:11 PM
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album25/aag.jpg
;)
Pandy
11-24-2003, 11:41 PM
ooo, i like that one, lol :D
Popsiq
01-11-2011, 09:24 AM
Just watched a documentary on the History Channel in Canada here...In Caen, Canadian troops got a 6-1 kill ratio on the Germans. When you watch the "Week of rememberance" programming on that channel you really start to feel pride. People ask "What defines canada as a nation" and people will say that its our reputation as Negotiators...no, Leave the Bargaining to Norway, they excel at it.
Our Nation has been born in warfare, people think that Canadians are weak willed peacenic's and the government tries to reinforce this. Canada is a nation of Soldiers, the Liberals need to remind everyone that our reputation was not of peace keepers, but of Peace Makers.
Getting to Caen was the real problem. That 'little trip' cost Canadians a lot of sad homes. If you were to talk to any of the guys who went across those fields in 'Goodwood', I don't think they'd agree with your warrior horse****. Wars aren't good for children or other living things. You only do them when you have no other choice. And certainly not because you think you have some 'heritage' to act out.
You're obviously a young guy who doesn't know much, yet. Go read some history, or, better still, see if you can get a real vet to tell you a war story.
lightfire
01-11-2011, 09:29 AM
oh no you didn't...*****
SupaDupaTank
01-11-2011, 09:31 AM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2zjc5ki.jpg
Popsiq
01-11-2011, 09:31 AM
Check out the movie the devils brigade. I got it on DVD, its awesome. When our guys go to the camp to train with the yanks we all march in in file with the bagpipes playing wearing our kilts looking all proffessional, while all the yanks are ex-cons given the choice of fight or war. Its truly a good movie.
One of the best platoons in the Brigade consisted of Indians from a small reserve in Ontario. They were reputed to be the finest soldiers both on the parade ground and in the field.
crimsontide
01-11-2011, 09:32 AM
dude, you do realize the last post in this thread was 8 years ago, right? you dragged up an 8 year old thread just to blast some Canadian guy who was feeling patriotic? fail...
Popsiq
01-11-2011, 09:34 AM
Check out the movie the devils brigade. I got it on DVD, its awesome. When our guys go to the camp to train with the yanks we all march in in file with the bagpipes playing wearing our kilts looking all proffessional, while all the yanks are ex-cons given the choice of fight or war. Its truly a good movie.
You might want to check-out recently made jobs like 'Dieppe' and 'Passchendaele'. Recently-produced Canadaian efforts, good stories but with the modern-day necessity of adding some interest for the chicks.
Popsiq
01-11-2011, 09:39 AM
Eight years and still ticking. I'd hope he's still patriotic but I still don't get the jingo bit.
Call it nostalgia ... eh.
What I was looking for, before the disrtraction, were some graphics of Captain Semrau's mercy killing that were posted here not long after the event. You wouldn't have seen those, eh?
thanamestolga
01-11-2011, 09:58 AM
I might be 8 years late to say this, but this thread comes across too much as call of duty to me. :P
T-5 Killer
01-11-2011, 02:07 PM
Holy massive necropost!
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