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tyovan
03-12-2005, 02:09 PM
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Ukraine has begun pulling troops out of Iraq as part of a phased withdrawal of its complete 1,650-man contingent, the sixth largest in the U.S.-led coalition.

The Ukrainian Defense Ministry said 150 of its troops from a company based near As Suwayrah left Iraq on Saturday, according to The Associated Press, starting a phased pullout ordered earlier this month by President Viktor Yushchenko.

The pullout is to be completed by October, the Defense Ministry said.

The decision to send troops was made by former President Leonid Kuchma in what was widely considered an effort to repair relations with Washington.

U.S.-Ukrainian relations were damaged by allegations that Kuchma had approved the sale of radar systems and other military equipment to Saddam Hussein's regime in violation of U.N. sanctions.

Ukraine has lost 17 soldiers in Iraq, according to the AP, and the deployment is deeply unpopular among people in the former Soviet republic.

Meanwhile, a U.S. soldier assigned to First Marine Expeditionary Force was killed in an accident Friday in the Al Anbar province of Iraq, the U.S.military said.

The soldier died during a "security and stability operation," the military said. The death brought to 1,513 the number of American troops killed in Iraq.

Military officials also confirmed that Thursday's suicide bombing in Mosul killed at least 50 Iraqi civilians and wounded nearly 80 others.

The bomber attacked a funeral procession near a Shiite Muslim mosque in the northern Iraqi city, where insurgent attacks and U.S.-led coalition raids have been virtual everyday occurrences for months.

The funeral was for Hashim Mahmoud al-Aaraji, a professor at Mosul University and the imam of central Mosul's Shahedayein Mosque.

In a statement Friday, the U.S. military said the scene was "reminiscent of the recent and horrific Al Hilla market bombing" last week -- the deadliest single insurgent attack of the Iraq war, which killed at least 127 people.

"Iraqi military forces, local police and concerned neighborhood residents courageously began administering treatment to the wounded and evacuated them all to three nearby hospitals," the U.S. statement said. "In dramatic contrast to the vicious nature of the attack, several dozen civilians lined up to donate blood to the victims."

The bombing was the latest in a series of attacks on Iraq's Shiites -- strikes that appear to have picked up as a Shiite-led political coalition prepares to assume power in a transitional national government.

That coalition, the United Iraqi Alliance, has agreed in principle with a Kurdish political bloc on how to form a new government, officials said Thursday. Details of the agreement were not released.

An official with the Dawa Party -- part of the Shiite-led coalition -- said the alliance and Kurdish bloc were in general agreement that Dawa's Ibrahim al-Jaafari would become prime minister and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan leader Jalal Talabani would be president.

The agreement was reached Wednesday and signed Thursday, the official said.

In the January 30 election, the United Iraqi Alliance won 140 seats in the 275-member transitional National Assembly, and the Kurds gained 75 seats. Despite its slim lead in assembly seats, the alliance needs coalition partners because a two-thirds majority is required to form a government.

The assembly convenes Wednesday. Its first act of business will be to elect an assembly president to preside over its deliberations.
Other developments

# The Iraqi interim government said Thursday its forces had come close to capturing Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi several times in recent months and have captured or killed many high-ranking members of his network, suspected in attacks in Iraq. The government named 10 men it said were captured within the past two weeks and said many of the detainees have provided valuable information.

# President Bush will name Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, to replace John Negroponte as the top American envoy in Iraq, a senior administration official said Thursday. An official announcement is expected Friday. Before the U.S. invasion of Iraq in March 2003, Khalilzad was the U.S. special envoy to Iraqi opposition groups. Bush recently tapped Negroponte to be the first director of national intelligence.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/03/12/iraq.main/index.html

M1A2U2
03-12-2005, 02:12 PM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Rantanplan
03-12-2005, 02:16 PM
Cos he wants join the EU immediately.

M1A2U2
03-12-2005, 02:33 PM
and the eu doesnt allow countries to have troops in iraq?

Rantanplan
03-12-2005, 02:45 PM
yes

Gallewicz
03-12-2005, 02:48 PM
In the words of yourself, nyet. (I know that you are joking though)
Kinda...strange... :|

)I(EHbKA.
03-12-2005, 10:56 PM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Because before the election he promised as one of his first tasks to withdraw Ukraine's troops from Iraq, and now he is fulfilling his promise. I am glad that he is, Ukraine shouldn't be there, the US started it, it's their problem.

ElHombre
03-12-2005, 10:58 PM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

because the ukrainians want their troops to come home. in a functioning democracy, the elected leadership has to obey the will of the people.

:bash:

M1A2U2
03-12-2005, 11:12 PM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Because before the election he promised as one of his first tasks to withdraw Ukraine's troops from Iraq, and now he is fulfilling his promise. I am glad that he is, Ukraine shouldn't be there, the US started it, it's their problem.

im glad we have such good friends with that attitude that will stick with us till the end

Opening Batsman
03-12-2005, 11:15 PM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Because before the election he promised as one of his first tasks to withdraw Ukraine's troops from Iraq, and now he is fulfilling his promise. I am glad that he is, Ukraine shouldn't be there, the US started it, it's their problem.

im glad we have such good friends with that attitude that will stick with us till the end

Pardon? I thought you were Italian. Or then again, are you Spanish? :roll:

Mark Sman
03-12-2005, 11:28 PM
The Ukranian troops were there through some of the hard times.

Would like to see them there untill the end. But its tough to give them harsh words when they have come, and helped out.

Too many others would just like to piss in from the sidelines without helping at all.

Marmot1
03-12-2005, 11:31 PM
at least they withdraw slowly in half a year not in hurry...

M1A2U2
03-13-2005, 01:18 AM
at least they withdraw slowly in half a year not in hurry...
yeah thats true i give them creidt for waht they have done. Thanks Ukraine

EvanL
03-13-2005, 01:20 AM
at least they withdraw slowly in half a year not in hurry...
yeah thats true i give them creidt for waht they have done. Thanks Ukraine
too bad they couldnt have been with you in the left flank back in 91 eh? p-)

usm2b
03-13-2005, 01:53 AM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Because before the election he promised as one of his first tasks to withdraw Ukraine's troops from Iraq, and now he is fulfilling his promise. I am glad that he is, Ukraine shouldn't be there, the US started it, it's their problem.

Terrorism, is everybodies problem champ. Burying your head in the sand isn't going to make the world's problems dissapear. They'll hit you eventually...

Holycrusader
03-13-2005, 02:32 AM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Because before the election he promised as one of his first tasks to withdraw Ukraine's troops from Iraq, and now he is fulfilling his promise. I am glad that he is, Ukraine shouldn't be there, the US started it, it's their problem.

Terrorism, is everybodies problem champ. Burying your head in the sand isn't going to make the world's problems dissapear. They'll hit you eventually...

:cantbeli:
Iraq have nothing to do with terrorism. So stop using cheap propaganda. If US want to have help from other countrys in Iraq they should have pay for that. War in Iraq was illegal so if you want help in occupation prepare lot of money. Nobody want to have dead soldiers for nothing... If US wants to have War on terror start looking for people like Basaev and Osama not like Saddam (their are different cattagorys of assh*ls)

IW

Sergei
03-13-2005, 02:37 AM
75% of Ukrainian population supports withdrawing troops. Yushenko as democratically elected president abides by the wishes of people.
It is good that he is actually fulfilling one of his election campaign promises.

NicNZ
03-13-2005, 02:43 AM
yeah thats true i give them creidt for waht they have done. Thanks Ukraine

Im sure they appreciate thanks but lets not be naive here. Ukraine (and Latvia, etc) did not send troops to Iraq for sentimental reasons. Every state contributing resources to the Iraqi conflict (with the potential exception of the UK) did it with the expectation of remuneration or other repayments. I wonder what Ukraine agreed to or expects to receive...

usm2b
03-13-2005, 02:44 AM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Because before the election he promised as one of his first tasks to withdraw Ukraine's troops from Iraq, and now he is fulfilling his promise. I am glad that he is, Ukraine shouldn't be there, the US started it, it's their problem.

Terrorism, is everybodies problem champ. Burying your head in the sand isn't going to make the world's problems dissapear. They'll hit you eventually...

:cantbeli:
Iraq have nothing to do with terrorism. So stop using cheap propaganda. If US want to have help from other countrys in Iraq they should have pay for that. War in Iraq was illegal so if you want help in occupation prepare lot of money. Nobody want to have dead soldiers for nothing... If US wants to have War on terror start looking for people like Basaev and Osama not like Saddam (their are different cattagorys of assh*ls)

IW

41 bodies 10 women 3 children... beheaded in a mass grave. A UAV crashed in a farmer's farm and he was affraid to tell the police because he was affraid that he or his son were going to be beheaded. Countless reporters/contractors have been beheaded, people are affraid to go worship...46 people were killed coming out a mosque just the other day, people are affraid to be seen talking to a US soldier becuase then their life is at risk...a few weeks back I saw an article here about a man who had to give people haircuts in secret becuase the "insurgents" or perhaps you sir, would like them called "freedom fighters" were killing barbers becuase it goes against their views. WTF do you mean Iraq has nothing to do with terrorists. That nation is being run by terror right now you stupid prick! so stfu, and stop your anti-us propaganda BS.

RomanS
03-13-2005, 03:23 AM
Good luck to Ukraine, what ever happens at the end.

At least they HELPED

seventy6er
03-13-2005, 03:28 AM
at least they withdraw slowly in half a year not in hurry...
yeah thats true i give them creidt for waht they have done. Thanks Ukraine
too bad they couldnt have been with you in the left flank back in 91 eh? p-)

rofl rofl rofl

Opening Batsman
03-13-2005, 03:31 AM
at least they withdraw slowly in half a year not in hurry...
yeah thats true i give them creidt for waht they have done. Thanks Ukraine
too bad they couldnt have been with you in the left flank back in 91 eh? p-)

rofl rofl rofl

rofl

Weasel
03-13-2005, 03:42 AM
Why would Yushenko Pull out if the Washington was backing him so strongly during the election?

Because before the election he promised as one of his first tasks to withdraw Ukraine's troops from Iraq, and now he is fulfilling his promise. I am glad that he is, Ukraine shouldn't be there, the US started it, it's their problem.

Terrorism, is everybodies problem champ. Burying your head in the sand isn't going to make the world's problems dissapear. They'll hit you eventually...

:cantbeli:
Iraq have nothing to do with terrorism. So stop using cheap propaganda. If US want to have help from other countrys in Iraq they should have pay for that. War in Iraq was illegal so if you want help in occupation prepare lot of money. Nobody want to have dead soldiers for nothing... If US wants to have War on terror start looking for people like Basaev and Osama not like Saddam (their are different cattagorys of assh*ls)

IW

I agree with everything. Especially with the description in brackets. woot

DeathBeforeDishonor
03-13-2005, 10:25 AM
at least they withdraw slowly in half a year not in hurry...
yeah thats true i give them creidt for waht they have done. Thanks Ukraine
too bad they couldnt have been with you in the left flank back in 91 eh? p-)

rofl rofl rofl

rofl

rofl rofl

CG51
03-13-2005, 10:42 AM
good for the Ukraine, at least they supported us...best of luck to them...

Virus
03-13-2005, 11:42 AM
Good luck to Ukraine, what ever happens at the end.

At least they HELPED


Exactly, atleast they had the balls to come and give, unlike some other countries out there. Kudos to them.

And Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism? What was that about saddam giving money to suicide bombers families? Letter ansar al-islam have a camp in northern iraq (was the biggest terrorist training camp in the world at the time, before it was taken out). And let other terrorists have safe haven in Iraq? ok whateva

szr
03-13-2005, 11:47 AM
Good luck to Ukraine, what ever happens at the end.

At least they HELPEDExactly. That's more than can be said about a lot of others. Thanks a lot for all your help, Ukraine!

tony6
03-13-2005, 11:50 AM
Good luck to Ukraine, what ever happens at the end.

At least they HELPED
Agreed.

M1A2U2
03-13-2005, 04:46 PM
at least they withdraw slowly in half a year not in hurry...
yeah thats true i give them creidt for waht they have done. Thanks Ukraine
too bad they couldnt have been with you in the left flank back in 91 eh? p-)

THanks for flaming the thread fcucker

Gyles84
03-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Better they contributed something than nothing at all. Still, staying on untill the end of the year would have helped. Got a feeling US or UK troops will be picking up the tab. :|

How come the Dutch left BTW, arn't they one of our stronger backers out there?