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He219
11-13-2003, 11:15 AM
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Italian military police guard the area after a bomb blast in Nassiriya, 180 miles south of Baghdad November 12, 2003. A car bomb ripped trough the Italian military police base in Nassiriya, killing at least 14 Italians and eight Iraqis in what appeared to be a fresh suicide attack. (Alfredo Cunha/Jornal De Noticias via *******)

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Two Italian soldiers look at their destroyed base in Nasiriyah. Italian Defence Minister Antonio Martino said the 'same hand' had struck the Italian base in southern Iraq (news - web sites) as the United States on September 11.(AFP/File/Mauricio Lima)

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Carabinieri paramilitary police prepare to leave for the Iraqi city of Nasiriyah.(AFP/Ansa/Franco Silvi)

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Two Italian carabinieri carry trunks and equipment November 13, 2003 which was salvaged from their military police base in Nassiriya after a suicide attack on Wednesday which killed 27 people. Italy's defense minister on Thursday visited the scene of a suicide bombing that killed 18 Italians in Iraq (news - web sites) and blamed it on the 'same people' who had carried out the September 11 attacks on the United States. *******/ Zohra Bensemra

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Italian Defence Minister Antonio Martino, center, is surrounded by guards as he arrives to the Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb Wednesday, in the Italian compound in Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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Italian Defence Minister Antonio Martino, center, is surounded by guards as he arrives in the Italian compound in Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003, to view the Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb Wednesday. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)


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An Italian Carabinieri ans a British Army soldier inspect one of the vehicles used by suicide bombers, next to the Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb Wednesday, in the Italian compound in Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)


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An Italian soldier guards the Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb Wednesday, in the Italian compound in Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. Italian Defence Minister Antonio Martino visits the Italian compound Thursday to view the scene. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)


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An Italian Carabinieri, right, inspects destroyed cars next to the Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb Wednesday, in the Italian compound in Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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Italian soldiers guards the Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb Wednesday, in the Italian compound in Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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Iraqi's carry the casket with the body of a killed family member on the roof of their car, no names given, as they pass an Italianh Army soldier at the hospital of Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. The body is a victim which who was killed Wednesday in the suicide bombing outside the Italian Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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An Iraqi man gestures as he arrives to collect the dead bodies of his two sons in the hospital of Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. The man's sons where killed Wednesday in the suicide bombing outside the Italian Carabinieri building which was destroyed by a truck bomb. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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CAPTION ADDITION - INCLUDING NAME OF CHILD A one-year-old Iraqi boy, Nasser Saoud, who lost one of his eyes during a bomb attack against an Italian police station in Nassiriya, 300 km south of Baghdad, November 12, 2003. A car bomb ripped through an Italian military police base in the Iraqi town of Nassiriya Wednesday, killing at least 14 Italians and eight Iraqis in what appeared to be a fresh suicide attack. *******/Zohra Bensemra

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Tears stream down an unidentified Italian Carabinieri military officer's face during a ceremony to mourn the dead in Naples, southern Italy, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. A bombing attack in Nasiriyah, southern Iraq, Wednesday left at least 19 Italians dead - including Carabinieri officers, soldiers and civilians and 8 Iraqi civilians dead. (AP Photo/Salvatore Laporta )

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A man prays on his knees after laying flowers outside the Carabinieri headquarters in Rome November 13, 2003. Italy slipped into mourning on Thursday as flags flew at half staff in a national drizzle and flowers were placed on war monuments a day after suicide bombers killed 27 people at an Italian military police base in southern Iraq (news - web sites). *******/Alessia Pierdomenico

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An Italian soldier places a bouquet of flowers in front of Rome's Carabinieri headquarters in honour of the 18 Italian victims of the car blast bomb in Nasiriyah.(AFP/Andreas Solaro)

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An Italian Carabiniere stands beside flowers placed at the tomb of the unknown soldier at Rome's Piazza Venezia November 13, 2003. Italy slipped into mourning on Thursday as flags flew at half staff in a national drizzle, flowers were placed on war monuments a day after suicide bombers killed 27 people at an Italian military police base in southern Iraq (news - web sites). *******/Alessandro Bianchi

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A street vendor dressed as a legionair pays his respects after laying flowers at the tomb of the unknown soldier at Rome's Piazza Venezia November 13, 2003. Italy slipped into mourning on Thursday as flags flew at half staff in a national drizzle, flowers were placed on war monuments a day after suicide bombers killed 27 people at an Italian military police base in southern Iraq (news - web sites). *******/Alessandro Bianchi

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Iraqi chlidren return from school in Fallujah, 50 kms south of Baghdad. The graffiti on the wall reads: 'No life...no dignity without Saddam. He shall come back...'(AFP/Karim Sahib)

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A Portuguese National Guard police officer says goodbye to his family before boarding a plane at the Figo Maduro military base in Lisbon, Portugal Wednesday Nov. 12, 2003 on route to Iraq (news - web sites). A group of 128 Portuguese police officers were sent to Iraq Wednesday to join the Italian police force but were rerouted to Basra instead of Nasiriyah, where a bombing attack took place at the Italian paramilitary base killing more than a dozen people. (AP Photo/Paulo Amorim)

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Portuguese National Guard police officers board a plane at the Figo Maduro military base in Lisbon, Portugal Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2003 bound for Iraq (news - web sites). A group of 128 Portuguese police officers were sent to Iraq Wednesday to join the Italian police force but were rerouted to Basra instead of Nasiriyah, where a bombing attack took place at the Italian paramilitary base killing more than a dozen people. (AP Photo/Paulo Amorim)

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Antonio Oliveira (R), commander of the Portuguese GNR paramilitary police, waves farwell on the brigade's embarkation for Nasiriyah, Iraq (news - web sites), at the military airport in Lisbon.(AFP/LUSA/Manuel de Almeida)

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South Korean soldiers march during a military parade in Seoul. South Korean President Roh Moo-Hyun will agree to dispatch no more than 3,000 troops to Iraq.(AFP/File/Yun Jai-hyoung)

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The dead bodies of Iraqis insurgents killed by US soldiers are handed to Iraqi police. US troops killed six Iraqi militants and wounded four others as they fought off an attack on their base and a Jordanian hospital in the central Iraqi city of Fallujah. The attack came as the deathtoll from the suicide bombing of an Italian military base rose to 27(AFP/File/Abdelqader Saad)

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People inspect damage to a warehouse in Baghdad, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003, with a shell impact crater in foreground, following an overnight raid by U.S. forces. The US military raided the building because of suspicions that Iraqi insurgents were using it to target US forces. No opposition forces were wound at the warehouse.(AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)

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Troops of U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division (Task Force Ironhorse) run with their weapons at ready as they search around the Diala River, where Iraqi militants hide outside Baquba early Nov. 13, 2003. U.S. troops raided several houses outside Baquba just before dawn looking for supporters of former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), including an Iraqi man suspected of attacking coalition forces and being an executor for Saddam's regime. Photo by Damir Sagolj/*******

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Troops of U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division (Task Force Ironhorse) search dense vegetation around the Diala river where Iraqi militants are said to hide outside Baquba early November 13, 2003. U.S. troops raided several houses outside Baquba just before dawn looking for supporters of former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) including an Iraqi man suspected of attacking coalition forces and being an executor for Saddam's regime. Photo by Damir Sagolj/*******

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Iraqi police officers raid a Baghdad street as they search for gangsters hideouts. Hundreds of Iraqi police launched the largest post-war raid on suspected gangster hideouts in the Iraqi capital.(AFP/Patrick Baz)

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"I'm reaching out to the Americans," Dominique de Villepin, France's foreign minister, said after Wednesday's attack in the southern town of Nasiriya, which left at least 19 Italians and nine Iraqis dead.(AFP/File)

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U.S. soldiers hold their weapons at ready during a raid in the suburbs of Baquba, Iraq (news - web sites) November 9, 2003. A little over six months ago, not many people at the Pentagon (news - web sites) wanted to hear from Army Col. Michael Dooley and his team of experts on issues like peacekeeping and multilateralism. The 10-member U.S. Army Peacekeeping Institute he headed was earmarked to close its doors by Oct. 1 under a cost-cutting initiative. Now, with Iraqi attacks weighing on public opinion and President George W. Bush (news - web sites) facing re-election next year, Dooley's team has doubled in size and received a broader assignment to study peacekeeping and related issues and advise the military. It was renamed the U.S. Army Peacekeeping and Stability Operations Institute. (Damir Sagolj/*******)

Salty Dog
11-13-2003, 11:37 AM
too bad what happened to the italian soldiers. :(

fokket
11-13-2003, 11:46 AM
R.I.P.

He219
11-13-2003, 11:54 AM
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A formation of U.S. Navy F/A18F Super Hornet, Strike Fighter Squadron One Zero Two, Diamond Backs, breaks upon arrival at Atsugi Naval Air Facility, west of Tokyo, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Junji Kurokawa)

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A pair of U.S. Navy F/A18F Super Hornet, Strike Fighter Squadron One Zero Two, Diamond Backs, taxi down to a tarmac upon arrival at Atsugi Naval Air Facility, west of Tokyo, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. F/A18Fs arrived to fill in the retired F14As based here, a day before the U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's visit to Japan. Rumsfeld will visit Japan and South Korea to thank U.S. troops stationed in the both countries for their contributions to the operations over Iraq and Afghanistan and discuss the issue of North Korea's nuclear weapons program with each official during his seven-day east Asian tour. (AP Photo/Junji Kurokawa)

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An aviator of U.S. Navy F/A18F Super Hornet, Strike Fighter Squadron One Zero Two, Diamond Backs, unties his gear before disembarking upon arrival at Atsugi Naval Air Facility, west of Tokyo, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. F/A18Fs arrived to fill in the retired F14As based here, a day before the U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's visit to Japan. Rumsfeld will visit Japan and South Korea to thank U.S. troops stationed in the both countries for their contributions to the operations over Iraq and Afghanistan and discuss the issue of North Korea's nuclear weapons program with each official during his seven-day east Asian tour. (AP Photo/Junji Kurokawa)

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Aviators of U.S. Navy F/A18F Super Hornet, Strike Fighter Squadron One Zero Two, Diamond Backs, walk out on a tarmac upon part of their squadron's arrival at Atsugi Naval Air Facility, west of Tokyo, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. F/A18Fs arrived to fill in the retired F14As based here, a day before the U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's visit to Japan. Rumsfeld will visit Japan and South Korea to thank U.S. troops stationed in the both countries for their contributions to the operations over Iraq and Afghanistan and discuss the issue of North Korea's nuclear weapons program with each official during his seven-day east Asian tour. (AP Photo/Junji Kurokawa)

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BAGRAM, Afghanistan – On a cold November night in Afghanistan more than 500 people filled a small room to commemorate the birth of “the few and the proud.” Celebrating its 228th birthday, Monday the United States Marine Corps held a Marine Corps Ball at the North Dining Facility on Bagram Air Base.(Photo by Sgt. Johnny A. Thompson, 4th Public Affairs Detachment)

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November 112, 2003
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Chief Warrant Officer Rene Couturier, Major General Marc Dumais, Major Paul Hale and Major Ed Karpetz salute during the Remembrance Day ceremony held at Camp Black Bear, Velika Kladusa, Bosnia-Herzegovina. There are currently 1,220 Canadians enforcing the peace in Bosnia-Herzegovina as part of NATO's Stabilization Force. Photo:Warrant Officer Peter Veldhuizen Canadian Forces Combat Camera


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Israeli border policemen fire tear gas bombs at protesters during a demonstration against the controversial Israeli security fence that is built to separate Israel from the West Bank, near the West Bank city of Tulkarm November 13, 2003. *******/Abed Omar Qusini

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PARIS Out with the European Union! In with the Franco-German Union? That was the gist of a series of articles in the Thursday edition of Le Monde claiming that France and Germany are "studying a project of unity."
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The newspaper said that Paris and Berlin were emboldened by their collective opposition to the war in Iraq and were fearful of losing influence once the European Union admits 10 new members next May.
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"If a Europe of 25 fails, what will be left for France?" Le Monde quoted Jean-Pierre Raffarin, the French prime minister, as saying in reference to the enlarged European Union. His answer, according to the paper, was the "the Franco-German rapprochement."
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Le Monde said that Pascal Lamy of France, the trade commissioner at the European Commission, would like to see a "bund," or alliance, that would allow France and Germany to fuse their militaries and diplomatic corps and to share France's seat at the United Nations Security Council.
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The paper quoted Dominique de Villepin, the French foreign minister, as saying that a rapprochement with Germany was the "only gamble that we cannot lose."
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The articles relied almost entirely on the views of French officials, although at one point a German academic was quoted as saying that the German defense and foreign ministries could have problems with the idea.
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Le Monde pointed out - and analysts in Brussels agreed - that talk of a Franco-German union is partly a negotiating tactic to influence deadlocked discussions on the final text of the European Constitution.
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France, Germany and several other countries are trying to push through the draft constitution with only minor changes but are meeting strong resistance from countries like Spain and Poland, which object to a revamped voting system. Britain and some Eastern European newcomers to the EU are also resisting moves to extend cooperation into areas like defense, taxation and foreign policy.
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By threatening to focus more closely on their own union, France and Germany are sending a message to the newcomers about what they see as their core role as the original founders of the European Union.
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The Italian government, which is mediating the talks, hopes to have an agreement on the constitution before Christmas. All 15 members of the EU and the 10 countries joining in May must agree on the final text.
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Bill Drozdiak, the head of the Transatlantic Center of the German Marshall Fund, a nonprofit research organization in Brussels, said that the idea of a France-German alliance had been periodically proposed in the postwar years.
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"I'll believe it when I see it," Drozdiak said. "It always founders on the fundamentals."
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France and Germany share some diplomatic posts, have regular exchanges within their ministries and occasionally have joint cabinet meetings. But they have trouble agreeing on certain issues, among them France's nuclear program.
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At a European Union summit meeting in October, President Jacques Chirac of France sat in for Chancellor Gerhard Schröder of Germany, who traveled back to Berlin to vote on important legislation.
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Armed with new evidence that diversity is good for business, the EC said that all but three of the EU's 15 members had ignored a four-month-old deadline to comply with a law that aims to stop racial discrimination in areas such as pay and access to jobs and education.
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It cited a report prepared for the commission showing that firms were benefiting from promoting diversity of race, *** and age.
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He219
11-13-2003, 12:04 PM
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BAGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan -- (Left to right) Airman 1st Class William Jannisch, Staff Sgt. Cassie Letendre, Airman 1st Class Jason Ventura and Senior Airman James Butler conduct a retreat ceremony honoring American veterans. The ceremony was on the roof of a Soviet-built aircraft control tower here Nov. 11. The airmen are assigned to the 455th Expeditionary Security Forces Squadron. Jannisch and Letendre are deployed from Holloman Air Force Base, N.M.; Ventura is deployed from Cannon AFB, N.M.; and Butler is deployed from Minot AFB, N.D. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Brian Davidson)


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BAGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan -- Capt. Edgardo Cruz-Velez walks away from a C-17 Globemaster III. C-17s are used extensively to deliver supplies and people to various forward-deployed locations throughout Southwest Asia. Cruz-Velez is assigned to U.S. Central Air Forces-Forward. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Scott T. Sturkol)


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TALLIL AIR BASE, Iraq -- Capt. James Smith prepares medication for 9-year-old Saleh Kahlaf while his father, Raheem Kahlaf, watches. Saleh was critically injured by a land mine near his school in Al Nasiriyah and had been cared for by 332nd Expeditionary Medical Squadron airmen until his aeromedical evacuation mission to the United States. The boy arrived at Children's Hospital and Research Center in Oakland, Calif., on Nov. 10. Smith is assigned to the 332nd EMEDS hospital here. (U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Lance Cheung)

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TALLIL AIR BASE, Iraq -- Critical-care transport team airmen prepare 9-year-old Saleh Kahlaf for an aeromedical evacuation flight from here to Children's Hospital and Research Center in Oakland, Calif., on Nov 8. Saleh was critically injured by a land mine near his school in Al Nasiriyah and had been cared for by 332nd Expeditionary Medical Squadron airmen until his flight. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. John Barton)

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OUDENAARDE, Belgium -- U.S. Air Forces in Europe Band airmen march here as part of Veterans Day activities Nov. 11. The town is near World War I battlefields and Flanders Field American Cemetery. The ceremony honored American, French, British and Belgian forces that died fighting German forces during the war. In all, more than 4,700 American servicemen died fighting in Belgium during the war. (U.S. Air Force photo by Capt. Rich Komurek)

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ARLINGTON, Va. -- U.S. Air Force Honor Guard airmen and Marines stand at attention while at the Tomb of the Unknowns on Nov. 11. The servicemembers participated in the Veterans Day wreath-laying ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Michael Holzworth)


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ARLINGTON, Va. -- Capt. Jamale Hart stands at attention in front of the Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery on Nov. 11. Hart and other U.S. Air Force Honor Guard airmen participated in the Veterans Day wreath-laying ceremony. (U.S. Air Force photo by Airman 1st Class Casey McCormick)

ArmedPacifist
11-13-2003, 01:23 PM
truly sad

usa320
11-13-2003, 03:14 PM
Sad.

But im sure the militants will be worse off than we are in a few days.

p-)

Marxist203
11-13-2003, 06:04 PM
Bah! Terrorists taking to our Italian Home boys...this pisses me of For real! Why couldn't have been the Spanish

Honestly, Door to Door searches man...if you dont find them all you'll probably provoke them to move into the open. :fork:

Though...Casualties would get pretty bad, and not to mention the populace would be non-to-pleased.

He219
11-13-2003, 07:45 PM
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Spc. Darryl Bisson guides Cpl. Dan Hirmer and his Stryker vehicle off of USNS Sisler during ship offloading operations conducted at the Port of Kuwait Nov. 12 and 13. More than 2,300 vehicles and pieces of equipment from 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, were offloaded and marshaled for convoy to Camp Udari, Kuwait, where the brigade is preparing for operations in Iraq. Bisson is assigned to the brigade's Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 269th Brigade Support Battalion. Hirmer is assigned to Troop A, 1st Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Jeremy Heckler.

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Capt. Elizabeth Scioletti talks with a group of orphaned Iraqi children in Mosul, Iraq, during a goodwill visit to distribute school supplies and gifts from Soldiers and American sponsors. Scioletti is assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade, attached to the 101st Airborne Division. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Justin Harris.

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A Soldier maintains a defensive posture with his MK19-3 grenade machine gun as fellow Soldiers investigate a suspected improvised explosive device near Baghdad. The Soldier is assigned to the 2nd Armored Calvary Regiment. Photo courtesy of the Department of Defense.

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Britain's Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales, who is a Colonel-in-Chief of the Army Air Corps, arrives at the regiment's base at Middle Wallop, England, Thursday Nov. 13, 2003, where he undertook a tour of the base. (AP Photo / Martyn Hayhow/AFP/Pool)

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An arriving Italian Army soldier priest talks with an Italian Carabinieri officer where a bomb destroyed the Carabinieri building Wednesday, in the Italian compound in Nasiriyah, Iraq Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. The death toll from the bombing rose to 31, including 18 Italians. (AP Photos/ Anja Niedringhaus)


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Soldiers of the Italian Joint Task Iraq prepare to set up a barbed wire fence around the area of the destroyed Carabinieri building Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003, a day after a suicide bomber blew up a truck packed with explosives at Italy's paramilitary base Wednesday, killing at least 26 people in Nasiriyah, Iraq. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)


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Italian soldiers of the 151st Sassari Brigade patrol the streets of the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriya Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003, a day after the Italian paramilitary headquarters was attacked in the city. Twelve Carabinieri paramilitary police were killed, along with four Army soldiers, an Italian civilian, and an Italian documentary filmmaker. An Iraqi doctor said that 13 non-Italian bodies were recovered. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)


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An Iraqi boy talks to a US soldier of the 1st Armred Division as another stands by as they patrol an area in central Baghdad, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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British Army soldiers and Iraqi police arrest an Iraqi man in the center of Basra, southern Iraq, Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)


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Dutch Army soldiers arrive at the police headquarters of the southern Iraqi town of Samawah, that was attacked by some 300 locals, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. Iraqi police opened fire Thursday on the crowd of stone-throwing protesters angry about alleged police corruption, wounding one of them, witnesses said. Several protesters were arrested, and the situation calmed after the arrival of Dutch soldiers. (AP Phot/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Dutch Army soldiers arrive at the police headquarters of the southern Iraqi town of Samawah, that was attacked by some 300 locals, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. Iraqi police opened fire Thursday on the crowd of stone-throwing protesters angry about alleged police corruption, wounding one of them, witnesses said. Several protesters were arrested, and the situation calmed after the arrival of Dutch soldiers. (AP Phot/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Dutch Army soldiers help Iraqi police officers after their headquarters, in the southern town of Samawah, was attacked by some 300 locals, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. Iraqi police opened fire Thursday on the crowd of stone-throwing protesters angry about alleged police corruption, wounding one of them, witnesses said. Several protesters were arrested, and the situation calmed after the arrival of Dutch soldiers. (AP Phot/Pier Paolo Cito)

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A Dutch Army soldier stands next an Iraqi police officer after the police headquarters of the town of Samawah, was attacked by some 300 locals, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. Iraqi police opened fire Thursday on the crowd of stone-throwing protesters angry about alleged police corruption, wounding one of them, witnesses said. Several protesters were arrested, and the situation calmed after the arrival of Dutch soldiers. (AP Phot/Pier Paolo Cito)

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US soldier sits on top of a Humvee in front of a factory in a Bagdad suburb, Thursday Nov. 13 2003. U.S. forces destroyed the facility they say was used by beligerent elements. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

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A soldier of U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division (Task Forse Ironhorse) guards a detained Iraqi man, during a night raid, after being taken from his home in Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, north of Baghdad, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)


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Italian Army Lt. Col. Antonio Stella and an Italian Red Cross volunteer visit an Italian Carabinieri a military hospital in the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003 a day after he was injured in the suicide truck bomb against Italy's paramilitary headquarters in the city. Twelve Carabinieri paramilitary police were killed, along with four Army soldiers, an Italian civilian and an Italian documentary filmmaker. An Iraqi doctor said later that 13 non-Italian bodies were recovered. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Two Italian Red Cross nurses treat Italian Carabinieri Daniele Livieri, at a military hospital in the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003 a day after he was injured in the suicide truck bomb against his headquarters in the city. Twelve Carabinieri paramilitary police were killed, along with four Army soldiers, an Italian civilian and an Italian documentary filmmaker. An Iraqi doctor said later that 13 non-Italian bodies were recovered. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Carabinieri Daniele Livieri lays on a bench of a military hospital in the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah, Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003 a day after he was injured in the suicide truck bomb against his headquarters in the city.

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Palestinian children hand each other food supplies under a new part of the separation fence between Israel and the Palestinian territories in the Palestinian West Bank village of Masha Thursday, Nov. 13, 2003. Israel says the massive barrier - which is to stretch along several hundred miles (kilometers) of fences, razor wire, walls and trenches - is needed to keep suicide bombers away from its cities. The Palestinians say that the planned path of the barrier breaks up their territory, cuts farmers from their fields and amounts to an enormous land grab. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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Israeli border police officers scuffle with foreign activists of the International Solidarity Movement who tried to cross from the Israeli side of the separation barrier Israel is building, to the Palestinian side in the northern West Bank village of Baka Al-Sharkiya Thursday Nov. 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

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A Palestinian woman carrying a child runs to avoid a cloud of tear gas thrown by Israeli forces to disperse a demonstration by foreign activists of the International Solidarity Movement who tried to cross from the Israeli side of the separation barrier Israel is building, to the Palestinian side in the northern West Bank village of Baka Al-Sharkiya Thursday Nov. 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

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Palestinians try to avoid the effects of tear gas thrown by Israeli forces to disperse a demonstration by foreign activists of the International Solidarity Movement who tried to cross from the Israeli side of the separation barrier Israel is building, to the Palestinian side in the northern West Bank village of Baka Al-Sharkiya Thursday Nov. 13, 2003. (AP Photo/Mohammed Azba)

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Bolivian army soldiers march aside the route to the airport in Santa Cruz de la Sierra, Bolivia on Thursday , Nov. 13, 2003. The city of Santa Cruz de la Sierra will host the XIII Iberoamerican Summit and expects 23 Iberoamerican presidents to attend this two day meeting, the 14th and 15th of November.(AP Photo/Dado Galdieri)

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A Fijian warrior holds a traditional war axe during a ceremony of apology for British missionary Rev. Thomas Baker, who was eaten in 1867, in Nabutautau, Fiji, Thursday, Nov 13, 2003. Descendants of Rev Baker attended the ceremony in the remote community high in the hills of the South Pacific Island of Viti Levu where the residents say their community has been cursed since Baker and eight Fijian followers were consumed 136 years ago. (AP Photo/Samisoni Pareti)

Haiw
11-13-2003, 09:02 PM
Bah! Terrorists taking to our Italian Home boys...this pisses me of For real! Why couldn't have been the Spanish
:roll:

btw the dutch guys are marines, not us army...

to free the oppressed
11-13-2003, 09:11 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?Daaaamn that chick in the back ground is hot :D
P.S. If you can't see the picture its the one with the Bolivian Army soldiers.

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11-13-2003, 09:25 PM
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Guy in the back: "Damn, i want a piece of that ass."

rofl

Salty Dog
11-13-2003, 09:47 PM
"yeah...he must work out"

Seoulstriker
11-13-2003, 11:32 PM
"yeah...he must work out"

the guy in the back also has one hand on his hip. :lol:

[AFSOC]
11-14-2003, 12:39 AM
LOL................... rofl

Loco
11-14-2003, 06:59 AM
Bah! Terrorists taking to our Italian Home boys...this pisses me of For real! Why couldn't have been the Spanish

This is one of the most ugly things Iīve read here. When you go to a warland, youīre exposed to things like this, or we all do think countries like Irak or Afghanistan are places only for our soldiers to show their new cammo uniforms in our pcīs screens as if they were top models? They are there for working hard, AND REBUILD A COUNTRY, with the risk of their lifes, risking their lifes is something included in the salary they earn, and remember Irakīs people donīt call for us, once accepted this point, we can pray for our fallen men and ALWAYS AND EVER being cold, not cool, Italian man.
To write such a thing like you wrote above, the best thing is not writing, I donīt know what kind of guy youīre, anyway I wouldnīt like to meet somethink like you, or worst: working side by side with people like you. Why donīt you suicide if you canīt stand the news in spite of hoping the deaths of others???? Honestly, I donīt want you to die, but I donīt want you talk any word about Spain, never more, people with bad vibrations must keep locked in your home. Some spanish have died yet in Irak, civil and military, and itīs sure more spanish will die, but only thing spanish will think is mourning our deaths and that is all.
My sinceres condolences to well born italians, R.I.P.

He219
11-14-2003, 10:06 AM
I totally agree.

Marxist203's remarks show a lot about him. Ignore such sentiments.

They are not a reflection of the diverse body of viewers on this forum.



RIP to our fallen comrades and allies.

:|

Sirpad
11-14-2003, 11:23 AM
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BHD, Take two?

Marxist203
11-14-2003, 08:44 PM
Bah! Terrorists taking to our Italian Home boys...this pisses me of For real! Why couldn't have been the Spanish

This is one of the most ugly things Iīve read here. When you go to a warland, youīre exposed to things like this, or we all do think countries like Irak or Afghanistan are places only for our soldiers to show their new cammo uniforms in our pcīs screens as if they were top models? They are there for working hard, AND REBUILD A COUNTRY, with the risk of their lifes, risking their lifes is something included in the salary they earn, and remember Irakīs people donīt call for us, once accepted this point, we can pray for our fallen men and ALWAYS AND EVER being cold, not cool, Italian man.
To write such a thing like you wrote above, the best thing is not writing, I donīt know what kind of guy youīre, anyway I wouldnīt like to meet somethink like you, or worst: working side by side with people like you. Why donīt you suicide if you canīt stand the news in spite of hoping the deaths of others???? Honestly, I donīt want you to die, but I donīt want you talk any word about Spain, never more, people with bad vibrations must keep locked in your home. Some spanish have died yet in Irak, civil and military, and itīs sure more spanish will die, but only thing spanish will think is mourning our deaths and that is all.
My sinceres condolences to well born italians, R.I.P.

Its so easy to get a rise out of the Spanish, Ive read the Gallery forums and honestly the way you guys behaved there is what has influenced my opinion.

Anyway, The Italians switched sides and helped the allies in World War 2...the Spanish were Nazi's so using history as a guideline, yes I would prefer the spanish.

Anyway...dont hijack this thread.

Otsoa
11-14-2003, 09:31 PM
If I may interject....Spain under the rule of Franco was a facist state, not specifically a nazi state. During WW2 they remained neutral; Hitler wanted to use the Spanish in the war but Franco irritated Hitler so much with his demands that Hitler decided that he would never ask Franco for any type of help in the future. There were cases where troops volunteered to join the German army but as a whole Spain was neutral. As far as I"m concerned, Franco can rot in the bowls of hell for the crimes he committed against various cultural groups in Spain but while I may be of Basque heritage, I also consider myself Spanish (and so does the Spanish government) in addition to being a Canadian.

As far as the Italians killed in Iraq are concerned.... RIP guys :(

Loco
11-15-2003, 08:28 AM
Spain wasnīt fascist, Francoīs government was fascist, and Franco wasnīt supported by population like italians or germans did with Mussolini and Hitler first, and like frenchs did with Petain after 1940. Franco began a war to liquidate a democracy in 1936, he had professional and colonial troops but spanish people stood up against him, and ALL european western democracies, our neighbours, betrayed us dealing with Hitler and Mussolini to donīt help Spanish Republic with the poor excuse that soviets were supporting Repulic ŋ!?, and nor a single communist was member of spanish government prior to 18-07-1936 the beginning of th coup dīetat. Westerns democracies were more worried in 1936 about true antifascists, socialists and commies, than about nazis or fascists, and people like Chamberlain and Churchill welcomed Francoīs government even before Franco won the war. Anyone talking about spanish being nazis???? More spanish died fighting against nazis and fascist than british, frenchs and americans together. We fought nazis in 1936, 1937 and 1938, without the help of anybody, where were the antinazis then? Messersmichidts and Stukas bombed civilians first time in Spain than another country. Spanish people built a new army only for fighting against nazis, becasue the most of the people didnīt like that ideology, but british, frenchs, polish and the rest of all fought nazis only after being attacked, not before. So being more careful about talking Spain, here there were nazis, like in all countries, the difference is we fought them with naked hands and without help.
This is a picture of Gernika, in Basque country, after a visit of german and italians nazis in 1937, I donīt know what they were doing democracies for us then:
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Egunon, Otsoa, Franco didnīt fought simply against various cultural groups, itīs simplistic, Iīm basque, brother, and spanish too not because the government consider me spanish but becasue we the basques built Spain when Spain didnīt exist, and half of us specially the ones of Araba and Nafarroa, deep catholics you know, helped Franco since the first day, this is our fault, this gudaris of the photo fought in the fascist side, at least we can say they fought well:
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Franco fought agaisnt democracy and marxism and atheism and etcaetera rebus, but he fought for preserving privileges of capitalists with the help and the blessing of almost all european countries, democracies or fascists, even USA denied oil supplies to Republica, not only that just the first week of the war FDRoosvelt ordered to Standard Oil diverting 6 tank ships sailing to Spain towards ports controlled by Franco, even after 1945 americans volunteers of Lincoln Brigade were persecuted in USA, only for fighting side by side with commies in Spain, didnīt do the same GIs in Germany? And if Franco didnīt joined Hitler wasnīt because irritated Hitler, in fact he irritated Hitler because he didnīt joined german side and remained neutral, Samuel Hoare, ambassador of GBritain knew the facts and knew they wouldnīt be attacked by the back in Gibraltar. A one called W.Churchill wrote about it and Spain in his war memories, you only have to read it. Even spanish nazis had good thing when they fight in Russia, they didnīt abuse over civilians nor they did war crimes against prisioners or jews, even they pointed their mausers towars their fellows germans when it was necessary in the villages they controlled, and of course they didnīt switched nor the red spanish, being loyal to your ideology and your fellows of arms is a question of honor, like dignity, you canīt teach dignity, you have nobleness or you havenīt, and spanish of 60 years ago of course had more nobleness than anyother people.
Excuse me by this long thread, by itīs frustrating the way a bloody ignorant and miserable anti-fascist armchair warrior talked about spanish and Spain. Being spanish mean that we do not owe a penny to anybody in this world and that we do not owe our freedom to anybody, nobody fought for us or our freedom, but thousands of spanish fought for the freedom of others since 1936 to 1945, and we wonīt tolerate any imbecil calling all spanish nazis, 1.000.000 dead spanish because of nazism and fascism are worth a bean, I think . This post began about italians soldiers and nobody had to mention Spain. Thatīs all, today is saturday and my week end begins,and like my grandaddy, who was a republican anarchist btw, used to tell me: "you donīt remain near a moron, itīs dangerous, if cows will fly, they will fly and defecate over him"
Agur, Otxoa! :) [/img]
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tenda
11-15-2003, 08:41 AM
......god bless all the camrades died in all the conflict's for defend our freedom........... :(http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=462690

Stalky-Italy
11-15-2003, 03:27 PM
......god bless all the camrades died in all the conflict's for defend our freedom........... :(http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=462690

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