German Tanks - WW2

[Dutch_Treath]

Tigers and Other


http://img230.exs.cx/img230/2595/tigerbattalions19ta.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/1992/ktiger19452ry.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/2258/tigermidwearlyhl8lu.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/3460/midproductiontigercoveredinzim.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/9683/lost66lj.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/1454/tiger369zn.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/986/tigerearlymodelwithbarbedwires.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/3976/lssahtigers4wo.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/5642/stb8bn.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/3205/tiger1spzabt503014yt.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/6428/tiger062fc.jpg
http://img230.exs.cx/img230/2781/tiger373ej.jpg

[General Zod]

Lovely. :)

[drGreen]

ACHTUNG!!!! PANZER woot woot woot :hug: :hug: :hug:

[th75ffm]

nice!

[VanLeeuwen]

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/5642/stb8bn.jpg

wouldn't this be more like a seldpropelled-artillery instead of a MBT?

[kayaker]

To me that looks more like a commander/scout tank due to the short barrel as opposed to an artillery piece which requires less mobility, speed and concealment yet does desire the accuracy of an extended barrel.

[GDS Starfury]

Stuga are considered assault guns that are used up front in the thick of things whereas arty is kept to the rear.

[tenda]

great gallery....german tank are so beauty.... ;)

[Navor]

My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

[Saturn5]

@ Navor:
Did your Grandgranddad survived the war?

regards

[Wodan]

My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

are you french?

[kayaker]

Stuga are considered assault guns that are used up front in the thick of things whereas arty is kept to the rear.

So my humble opion created without significant knowledge or experience was correct?

[GDS Starfury]

no, sorry ;) that photo is a early war Stug with a short 75mm gun. the same gun used in ealry Pz-4. as the war progressed they were upgunned with longer cannon.

[AVZ]

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/5642/stb8bn.jpg

wouldn't this be more like a seldpropelled-artillery instead of a MBT?

Those were called "Sturmgeschütz". It's not artillery but a gun without a turret!! That made it easier to produce and especially cost effective!!!!

[Heinzi]

PanzerIII
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/Pz3L-1.jpg
PanzerIV
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/panzer4_60.jpg
PanzerI
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/006_panzer1.jpg
PanzerV
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/panther_49.jpg
StugIII
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/stug_001.jpg
Panzer35(t)
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/Pz35t-12.jpg
PanzerII
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/panzer12_22.jpg
PanzerVI
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/tiger_29.jpg

[ZeroPositive]

great photos very impressed :)

[Navor]

1st Im not french but if i would be french I also would be proud of that

2 No he did not survived the war he died near Paris during an air attack,but there was no grave etc.
My family get notice of this loss from a member of his company.

[seventy6er]

http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/tiger_29.jpg

That tank looks somewhat modern to me (for a WW2-era tank, that is).

[Heinzi]

Its a Tiger tank.

1st build 1942 afaik

[Operation Ivy]

Tiger 1 woot best tank ever :D

[Weasel]

Tiger 1 woot best tank ever :D

*ring ring*

What? :P



http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/abrams.jpg

PWNED

[Heinzi]

I see you like the quality stuff Ivy ;)

Here is more

"King Tiger" or Tiger II
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/01.10.2004_12_43_17_173.jpg


Tiger
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/503-334marsch.jpg

Heinz Guderian
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/Image1281.jpg

Jagpanzer IV

http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/JgpzIV03.jpg
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/jagdpanzer4_vomag.jpg
King Tiger
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/koenigstiger_01_128.jpg
PanzerIII
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/pr6frkr10.jpg
PanzerIV
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/pzkpfw_iv_04.jpg
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/pzkpfw_iv_g_01.jpg
Together with Tiger
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/pzkpfw_iv_g_02.jpg[/url]

[FozzieBear]

http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/tiger_29.jpg looks kinda like a leopard 1 in this pic :P

[OldRecon]

http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/01.10.2004_12_43_17_173.jpg

This photo taken during the fighting in Budapest 1944-45?

[He219]

http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/01.10.2004_12_43_17_173.jpg

This photo taken during the fighting in Budapest 1944-45?

Yes (1945), sPzAbt 503, renamed sPzAbt Feldherrnhalle/Feldherrnhalle 2 and attached to PzGren. Div. FHH, I believe.

http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/ktiger04.jpg
http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/ktiger08.jpg


http://klub.chip.pl/krzemek/tiger2/tiger2_23a1d.jpg
Video (http://home.t-online.de/home/tschixel/tiger2-01.zip)

[Operation Ivy]

Tiger 1 woot best tank ever :D

*ring ring*

What? :P



http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/abrams.jpg

PWNED

o ive said that before where have you been :D





Rantanplan wrote:
Operation Ivy wrote:
Tiger 1....greatest tank of all time


Ahhhh, and thats from Ivy!?!?!?! I think I gonna cry.


ive said it before, its my fav tank p-)

[B25Hmitchell]

Someone needs to post the video of the M26 Pershing vs. Panther in Cologne. I think it's in cologne. I can email if you can post it.

[Rantanplan]

Rantanplan wrote:
Operation Ivy wrote:
Tiger 1....greatest tank of all time


Ahhhh, and thats from Ivy!?!?!?! I think I gonna cry.


ive said it before, its my fav tank

wtf?

[Ghostwolf]

Was the Maus tank actually put into action in WWII?

[Heinzi]

Was the Maus tank actually put into action in WWII?

Yes and no. Some sources say that they at least tried to fight with it.

But please dont talk about german protoypes and ubertanks. It will ruin the thread ;)
They have been talked to death in gazillion threads in various forums.

Here are 2 pictures of the panther in Cologne (I was born in Cologne)
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/077_panther.jpg
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/pantherattheend.jpg

[LeMat]

My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

No offence but having grandfather in SS isn't a reason to be proud. It is shame.

[drGreen]

I believe there's a mauser in a russian war museum let me google it up for you guys...
whoomp there it is...

it looks like they've stored half former german army there :)
http://members.aol.com/kubinka/kubinmus.htm
http://www.tankmuseum.ru/

http://www.tankmuseum.ru/images/pav6-9.jpg

[Heinzi]

My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

No offence but having grandfather in SS isn't a reason to be proud. It is shame.

1. useless comment
2. he didnt said he is proud

@deGreen

a Mauser? Wow can you confirm that? ;)
Seriously, I heard that they build this tank out of the remaining parts of two destroyed tanks.

[drGreen]

yeah m8 check the previous page i've edited the post ;)

[Heinzi]

Yes I knew that picture before, but actually "Mauser" is a rifle company, and "Maus" (mouse) is the tank :)

[drGreen]

Yes I knew that picture before, but actually "Mauser" is a rifle company, and "Maus" (mouse) is the tank :)

:cantbeli: did I really? doh sorry

[Navor]

[quote=Navor]My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

No offence but having grandfather in SS isn't a reason to be proud. It is shame.

1. useless comment
2. he didnt said he is proud

Sorry but Im proud and do you know why???
He belonged to my family and I know that he does not any war crime or so. And he received the tank badge and EK II and i think thats also a reason to be proud of.

[Heinzi]

[quote=Navor]My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

No offence but having grandfather in SS isn't a reason to be proud. It is shame.

1. useless comment
2. he didnt said he is proud

Sorry but Im proud and do you know why???
He belonged to my family and I know that he does not any war crime or so. And he received the tank badge and EK II and i think thats also a reason to be proud of.

Thats perfectly ok for me. Just stated that you didnt say it.
The grandfather of my friend was in the WaffenSS. I have no problem with that. He is a very nice mate.

[ZeroPositive]

heck nothing wrong with being in the Waffen SS doesn't mean they all committed atrocities...

nice pics

[Navor]

[quote=Navor]My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

No offence but having grandfather in SS isn't a reason to be proud. It is shame.

1. useless comment
2. he didnt said he is proud

Sorry but Im proud and do you know why???
He belonged to my family and I know that he does not any war crime or so. And he received the tank badge and EK II and i think thats also a reason to be proud of.

Thats perfectly ok for me. Just stated that you didnt say it.
The grandfather of my friend was in the WaffenSS. I have no problem with that. He is a very nice mate.

Oh sry Heinzi I took the wrong quote, so it wasnt meant that you dont understood me or that I thought that you offended me

[ranman1]

why do some german tanks have those grooves etched into the armor?

[Heinzi]

Do you mean the Zimmerit coating?

The Germans feared the magnetic mines, because the were very effective AT weapons. Ironically the Russians never used them.
The Zimmerit coating should reduce the magnetic effect of the armor plates.

http://www.panzerworld.net/zimmerit.html

@Navor

np :)

[LeMat]

@Navor

Sure - no war crimes. He was in orchestra like all Germans during WW II. Being member of SS (excluding Reiten SS) is international crime - don't you know that? And all members of SS are international war criminals.
Do you know what 2 SS division made in Oradour-sur-Glane in 1944?

[ZeroPositive]

Not during the war... don't want to sound like I am defending them but there were average fighting troops in the SS as well...

not all were the poorly described killers...

[Navor]

@Navor

Sure - no war crimes. He was in orchestra like all Germans during WW II. Being member of SS (excluding Reiten SS) is international crime - don't you know that? And all members of SS are international war criminals.
Do you know what 2 SS division made in Oradour-sur-Glane in 1944?

Im aware of oradour sur glane, but you have your own opinion and Im not trying to convince you or sth. You just statet out that you cant take place in this discussion

dobranoz gorol

[ranman1]

Thanks, for the answer!

[machupichu]

My Grandgranddad was a Panther Commander in the 2nd SS Panzerdivision during Normandy Campaign, because of that there is no better Tank than a Panther Version G

No offence but having grandfather in SS isn't a reason to be proud. It is shame.

SS soldier != criminal


german wehrmacht still is admired today by many people all over the world for beeing one of the greatest armies ever existed in history. only morons reduce its role to some commited crimes.
:cantbeli:

[VaLiancY]

I came here to look and talk about the best of tanks in WWII. Not to talk about bull**** that happen 60 years ago. I want to see some more Stugs and Jadpanzers. woot

[gsp1202]

very nice pics, German Tanks Uber Alles

[Heinzi]

I came here to look and talk about the best of tanks in WWII. Not to talk about bull**** that happen 60 years ago. I want to see some more Stugs and Jadpanzers. woot

But Sir, my bandwidth! Have mercy :lol:

[VaLiancY]

I came here to look and talk about the best of tanks in WWII. Not to talk about bull**** that happen 60 years ago. I want to see some more Stugs and Jadpanzers. woot

But Sir, my bandwidth! Have mercy :lol:

Your donation of bandwith is greatly appreciated ! :hug:

Quickly with the Stugs, Konigtigers and Jadpanzers. :D

[seventy6er]

I came here to look and talk about the best of tanks in WWII. Not to talk about bull**** that happen 60 years ago. I want to see some more Stugs and Jadpanzers. woot

But Sir, my bandwidth! Have mercy :lol:

I can host some of your pics if you're running low on bandwidth.

[Operation Ivy]

Rantanplan wrote:
Operation Ivy wrote:
Tiger 1....greatest tank of all time


Ahhhh, and thats from Ivy!?!?!?! I think I gonna cry.


ive said it before, its my fav tank

wtf?

argh i was just quoting something i said a while ago and u happened to be in the quote..n00b :D

[Jack Mehoff]

Not German tank, but this is for Operation Ivy

Jacko in the driver seat
http://img204.exs.cx/img204/6533/jacko8th.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=jacko8th.jpg)

Some private
http://img204.exs.cx/img204/7117/jacko18ah.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=jacko18ah.jpg)

Everybody
http://img204.exs.cx/img204/9440/jacko20mn.th.jpg (http://img204.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img204&image=jacko20mn.jpg)

[Heinzi]

@seventy6er

Thank, ill come back to it maybe :)
Brummbär Sturmhaubitze
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/015_brumbar.jpg

Jagdpanzer Elefant
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/Elefant_02.jpg

Panther with IR equipment (its passive, and it saw only action once, iirc)
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/Image21.jpg

Ferdinand
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/photo17.jpg
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/ferdinand_rear.jpg
PanzerI
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/pzkpfw_i_01.jpg
T34 Captured
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/t34e.jpg
Hetzer

http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/hetzer_11.jpg

Axis starting Precamp ;)
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/unknown4.jpg

[Heinzi]

Panther AusfA
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/panther-ausfa.jpg

Tiger
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/panzer46.jpg

Panther
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/PantherOrelRegion.jpg

[Navor]

Thats what Im talking about Panther rules.
Forget about ABrams and stuff gimme a Panther ;)

[Heinzi]

Ok one more Panther ;)
http://www.panzer.shamino.net/bilder/panzer1/panther_10.jpg

[Heinzi]

If you are (really) interested in German tank warfare I can reccommend the two books from Heinz Guderian (preferably in German).
Achtung Panzer! and the "Erinnerungen". Dont know the English title.

General Walther K.Nehring helped Guderian to develop the modern tank unit and wrote an excellent book, too. Named "Die Geschichte der deutschen Panzerwaffe".

For these who want pictures and techfreaks, who want to know which radio was in which tank or vehicle, the "Encyclopedia of german tanks of world war two" is a good start. The lack of blueprint is sad though.

Pictures and ISBN of these books are on my homepage.