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Bluezoo
03-14-2005, 11:24 AM
EU Firm on Ending China Arms Embargo
By DAN EATON, *******, JAKARTA, Indonesia


The European Union is determined to lift its 15-year ban on arms sales to China and does not expect any retaliation from Washington when it does so, a top official said on March 12.

EU External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner told ******* in an interview a delegation of European officials due in Washington in the coming week would seek to ease fears that an end to the ban could alter the balance of power in East Asia.

U.S. President George W. Bush has voiced concerns that the end of the embargo could skew the military balance between China and Taiwan. Lawmakers in Washington have also threatened to curtail defense cooperation with Europe if it proceeds.

“Of course there are some concerns on the American side, but I have never heard the word retaliation,” Ferrero-Waldner said.

“We feel that China is a partner today, an important partner, and we don’t want to treat China like Zimbabwe or some other country,” she said during a visit to Jakarta.

She said China had made progress in human rights since the embargo was imposed after a bloody crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989 and that Europe would continue to push Beijing toward a peaceful solution in the Taiwan Strait.

But with China planning to raise defense spending, and on March 8 outlining a bill permitting the use of force to head off any independence bids from Taiwan, the EU move will be a tough sell to the United States.

Ferrero-Waldner said Europe was not seeking to boost arms exports and did not believe that lifting the embargo would mean a rush of European military technology into China.

“I think it’s more about the quality of the arms exports and I think it is a matter also of … which high technology should be in there and (which) should not be in there,” she said.

“We don’t want to increase our arms exports. What we want is to really have one instrument, because now we have two. We have an arms embargo and we have a code of conduct,” she said.

“What we say is we will severely restrict the code of conduct and therefore we don’t need two instruments.”

Rights groups say the EU’s existing code of conduct on arms sales is not legally binding and contains loopholes.

A revised code, due to be agreed to in coming weeks, requires EU states to look hard at the human rights record of the importing country before granting licenses, as well as its history of passing on imported equipment to third countries.

http://defensenews.com/story.php?F=719596&C=europe

Bluezoo
03-14-2005, 05:09 PM
Speaking of of human rights, here are some pictures of Tibetan prisoners being executed by the PLA.

http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/s/h/shoh/9/shoh_20050127211334_4020974_1.jpg
http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/s/h/shoh/9/shoh_20050127211334_4020974_2.jpg
http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/s/h/shoh/9/shoh_20050127211334_4020974_3.jpg

CAUTION: graphic photos!

http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/s/h/shoh/9/shoh_20050127211334_4020974_4.jpg

http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/s/h/shoh/9/shoh_20050127211334_4020974_5.jpg

J-10
03-14-2005, 07:50 PM
These pics Had been posted in "Strictly Photos & Video",

http://www.hn51.com/dvbbs/UploadFile/2004-12/2004121322619688.jpg
http://www.hn51.com/dvbbs/UploadFile/2004-12/2004121322943386.jpg
http://www.hn51.com/dvbbs/UploadFile/2004-12/2004121322109443.jpg
http://www.hn51.com/dvbbs/UploadFile/2004-12/20041213221040623.jpg

http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/s/h/shoh/9/shoh_20050127211334_4020974_1.jpg

Speaking of of human rights, here are some pictures of Tibetan prisoners being executed by the PLA.
Correct your illustrate: Armed police isn't PLA. The executed were not Tibetan, han phyle.

As I know US, Saudi Arabia also don't abolish Death Penalty.

Bluezoo
03-15-2005, 10:52 AM
These pictures were taken in front of these PLA soldiers. It follows that those who took these pictures were either the PLA themselves or they had the blessings of the PLA to take these pictures.

Tibet or whatever, the pictures says a lot about China's perception on human rights. As you can see, China does not need more guns to be efficient in killing "political prisoners" labeled as murderers. Beijings kangaroo courts get to decide and the state controlled press are just as happy and willing to be accomplices in doing their patriotic jobs. Based on this and other countless victims, the question remains, why was the weapons ban imposed? You know the answer. You can believe whatever you want. I made my point. ;)

To continue my fist post, this came out today....

EU Team To Discuss China Arms Ban With U.S. Officials
By BROOKS TIGNER, BRUSSELS

Hoping to defuse trans-Atlantic security tensions, European Union officials headed for Washington March 14 for two days of talks to explain the reasons behind the union’s intent to lift its embargo on arms exports to China and reassure U.S. policy-makers.

Ironically, the timing of the 15-strong delegation’s departure coincides with the March 14 passage in Beijing of a new law justifying China’s use of military force to prevent any moves by Taiwan toward independence from the mainland.

EU sources here said the high-level delegation is drawn from the European Commission; Luxembourg, which currently holds the EU presidency; and the Council of Ministers, which represents the union’s 25 national capitals.



The group is expected to meet with officials at the Pentagon, State Department and National Security Council and with members of Congress.

The U.S. administration deeply opposes any lifting of the ban, imposed in 1989 after Beijing cracked down on civil protesters, arguing that it will destabilize security in the Far East. Prominent Senate leaders from both the Republican and Democrat parties have threatened in recent weeks to propose trade technology sanctions against Europe if it lifts its arms embargo.

EU nations signaled in December that the embargo could be abolished before mid-2005. They are strengthening a voluntary code of conduct on arms exports, which they argue will prevent dangerous or strategic weapons from being shipped to China.

Meanwhile, China’s new law underscores the tension of security relations in its corner of Asia. Taiwan immediately condemned the law, as did U.S. officials.

Asked if China’s new law would have any impact on the EU discussions about lifting the arms embargo ban, European Commission spokeswoman Emma Udwin said it would be discussed among EU member states and that it was “nobody’s intention to do anything to change the [security] equilibrium in southeast Asia.”

One EU diplomat told DefenseNews.com March 14 that “China’s aggressive stance would certainly come up for bilateral discussions” during the EU delegation’s round of talks with U.S. officials in Washington. “It doesn’t help things, but we also have to see how serious China is about rattling this saber. It has a long habit of rattling its Taiwan saber.”

http://defensenews.com/story.php?F=720355&C=europe