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Seoulstriker
11-17-2003, 11:39 AM
Subject: U.S. to Move Military Forces From Seoul, DMZ
To: DEFENSE-PRESS-SERVICE-L@DTIC.MIL

By Kathleen T. Rhem
American Forces Press Service

SEOUL, South Korea, Nov. 17, 2003 * The United States and South Korea have agreed in principle to move most American forces out of the capital city of Seoul and south from the demilitarized zone along the border with North Korea.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is in the country's capital for the annual Security Consultative Meeting between defense officials from the two countries.

"As the U.S. and Korea look at the 21st century challenges and the new security environment we're in, we're working to transform our combined military posture to defend Korea and to strengthen security and prospects for peace on this peninsula," Rumsfeld said during a press conference today at the Korean Ministry of National Defense.

The secretary appeared with the Korean national defense minister, Cho Yung Kil, after the two held talks on a number of issues. Before the meeting of cabinet officials, Joint Chiefs Chairman Air Force Gen. Richard Myers met with his Korean counterpart.

This year's iteration of the annual talks was significant because last month
was the 50th anniversary of the security agreement between the United States and South Korea, and because the United States is gearing up for a major reconsolidation of its forces on the peninsula.

"We may have had one of the most substantive SCM meetings ever," Rumsfeld said.

The U.S. and Korean governments have agreed to move the majority of the 7,000 troop-strong American military presence out of the Seoul area onto bases farther south.

Army Gen. Leon LaPorte, commander of U.S. forces in Korea, said a small
American presence is likely to remain in Seoul, but that the numbers have not been agreed to.

Officials have also agreed to relocate American forces in the north of the
country * primarily the Army's 2nd Infantry Division at Camp Casey * in two
phases. First, they will be consolidated into a smaller footprint. Then they
will be moved to the southern part of the country.

Eventually, officials explained, U.S. forces in Korea will be centered on two
main "hubs" in the south.

Rumsfeld is in Korea on the last leg of a six-day trip that has included Guam and Japan. He met with South Korean President Roh Moo Hyun, attended the consultative meeting and a ceremony at Korea's National War Museum, and laid a wreath at the National Cemetery. He will visit American service members at Camp Casey, Camp Humphreys, and Osan Air Base Nov. 18 before returning to the United States.

In a joint communiqué issued after the consultative meeting, the secretary
thanked South Korea for its commitment to send additional military forces to Iraq. The country has already sent medical and engineering units to Iraq and Afghanistan. Local media put the number of added troops at 3,000 and said they'd be used in a humanitarian capacity.

Rumsfeld also reiterated a U.S. commitment to provide the ROK military with $11 billion to enhance its capabilities. The secretary also called on North Korea
to "completely, verifiably and irreversibly dismantle its nuclear weapons
programs and to cease the testing, development, deployment and export of weapons of mass destruction, missiles and related technologies."

what up wit' dat? :|

He219
11-17-2003, 11:49 AM
They are going to save a bundle in redundant security costs by relocating the Seoul HQ to the Osan Air Base. NPR did a nice report on it last weekend.

This was planned long before Seoul announced sending only 3,000 troops to Iraq..

duck
11-17-2003, 11:52 AM
The Seoul base is in the heart of the city. Just imagine a helicopter base in downtown Manhattan.

Seoulstriker
11-17-2003, 11:57 AM
ahhhhh. i see.

i was confused: i thought that a large force responsible for defending seoul from NK was being moved.

but what about this:


Officials have also agreed to relocate American forces in the north of the country * primarily the Army's 2nd Infantry Division at Camp Casey * in two phases. First, they will be consolidated into a smaller footprint. Then they will be moved to the southern part of the country.

i hope it doesn't give a bad message to NK. :|

duck
11-17-2003, 12:00 PM
Consider that taking them out of artillery range, they can still be mobilized easily to counter any PRK threat.

budanski
11-17-2003, 12:16 PM
Good start. Let's move our "tripwires" somewhere that wants them. Like Arizona.

Good move on the US part. Why absorb the brunt of the casualties in the initial onslaught? Move out range and let the natives bear the brunt of combat, then move in.

Watch for the lefties to cry "Destabalizing!" & "Provocative!".

army cadet_ngcsu
11-17-2003, 01:37 PM
We should move out of the entire peninsula. No one wants us there and can someone tell me why in the hell are WE giving them 11 billion dollars to improve THEIR defences! They are wealthy, they can do it themselves! Let the Koreans work out their problems, it is obvious that no one likes us to the North and they sure as hell hate us in the South. Leave the South Koreans to their fate, after all, we need them in Iraq and where are they?

Shake n Bake
11-17-2003, 01:40 PM
What's with all the damn monkey avatars?

budanski
11-17-2003, 02:08 PM
Its all Trigger's fault.

WARPIG
11-17-2003, 02:31 PM
Baaad monkeys!!

North Koreas Nuclear programs have a two-fold motive. Generate money and to draw US dollars. Getting US into an arguement over nukes usually ends up in US asking for certain criteria to be met in exchange for "aide." Taking the US military out of the spotlite in ROK is going to add to the pressure of mostly Asian dialogue with N. Korea. South Korea has been working toward peace with them for quite a while. Moving US troops out of the line of sight might help open dialogue again.
Of course that is not the only reason why we are consolidating troops. It has been a planned event for some time.

Tane Angle
11-17-2003, 07:20 PM
Seems to me that our personnel are simply hostages, human shields. Same for US personnel in India and Pakistan during their crisis. The message would seem to be "Kill Americans, and we'll kill you." Can't attack SK without NK running the risk of being hit back. Of course, NK's leader doesn't always act according to a logic that my humble brain can comprehend. :D

The NK arty density is so much that our forces couldn't do much, sorry to say. They're just there to do what they can until help arrives. Have a good one, and just some thoughts...

Seiyuuki
11-18-2003, 04:16 AM
What's with all the damn monkey avatars?

Be wary wary quiet...what monkey avatars? I don't see any monkey avatars!!!