Desert storm 1 [Archive] - Military Photos

UoUo

11-18-2003, 09:45 AM

Anyone knows what cind of tanks the USA army used at that time ?
And if its not hard...please give me the numbers of tank that destroyded by iraqi tanks.

Seoulstriker

11-18-2003, 10:05 AM

Anyone knows what cind of tanks the USA army used at that time ?
And if its not hard...please give me the numbers of tank that destroyded by iraqi tanks.

we used the M1A1 and we lost not a single one to enemy fire. woot

UoUo

11-18-2003, 10:16 AM

Sweet.

:hug:

Gringo

11-18-2003, 10:27 AM

Seoulstriker

11-18-2003, 10:29 AM

Haiw

11-18-2003, 11:23 AM

not completely true; ok, not a single one was totally destroyed by enemy fire and no crew members were killed, but there were some abrams tanks that were so badly damaged they were thrown out of service...also i recall some of em we're damaged (badly) by mines..

Operation Ivy

11-18-2003, 02:50 PM

Haiw is right....i tihnk it was 8 tanks that were badly damaged. But we also used M60 Tanks, and M1 Tanks :D

Seoulstriker

11-18-2003, 02:51 PM

Haiw is right....i tihnk it was 8 tanks that were badly damaged. But we also used M60 Tanks, and M1 Tanks :D

yes, they did use M1 tanks, but i didn't know to what capacity. They were mostly late 70s and early 80s era, right?

Seraphim

11-18-2003, 03:11 PM

I think Seoulstriker is getting confused witht he humvee.

96B

11-18-2003, 03:12 PM

The Marines used the M60 and I dont know that they even had any Abrams in their inventory at the time. The primary Army tank then was the M1A1 which is what the Marines use now.

wholagun

11-18-2003, 03:15 PM

I heard or read somewhere that in one engagement an Iraqi T 80 fired off a Sabot round and it hit the US M1, but luckely the M1 did not get destroyed because the Sabot round hit the frontal amour and was defelected off. Had the sabot round hit the side of the tank, it would have been a different story.

Seoulstriker

11-18-2003, 03:23 PM

I think Seoulstriker is getting confused witht he humvee.

but the M1 was an early production model, and i'm not sure if they were even used during the Gulf War. what's the deal with the Humvee?

http://www.periscope1.com/demo/weapons/gcv/tanks/w0003593.html

VARIANTS
M1
Initial production model. Main armament was the 105-mm/51 cal M68E1 rifled gun (55 rounds carried). Coaxial machine gun has 4,800 rounds. Individual NBC protection. Combat weight is 120,249 lb. (54,545 kg).
Some 2,374 "basic" M1s were built.

Improved M1 (IPM1)
Armed with 105-mm gun mounted on the cast (rather than forged) trunnions intended for the M1A1's 120-mm gun. Other improvements include relocation of certain gun-laying sensors, redesign of the driver's instrument panel and hatch. The Improved M1 weighs 1,985 lb. (900 kg) more than the M1 and is about 3.5 mph (5.6 km/h) slower; 894 were built from December 1984 to February 1986.

M1A1 Block I
Most obvious difference from M1 is the 120-mm M256 smoothbore gun. Reduced MG ammunition capacity but has improved feed arrangement. Fire control system is changed to suit different ballistics and turret mechanism has been refined. Collective overpressure NBC protection. Stronger transmission and suspension.

M1A1 with DU armor
In March 1988, the Army announced that current production M1A1s were fitted with steel-encased DU mesh armor. Depleted uranium is an inert, heavy metal that is 2 1/2 times more dense than steel.

M1A1 for U.S. Marine Corps
Similar to U.S. Army M1A1 except for more tie-down points, position location reporting system (PLRS) interface and the deep water fording kit (DWFK), which increases fording depth to 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) with the turret forward. The kit has two intake and one exhaust pipe and can be rigged in less than one hour. U.S. Army tanks produced from the last quarter of 1990 also were designed to accept the DWFK.
The first U.S. Marine Corps M1A1s entered service in Saudi Arabia during the Persian Gulf War.

IDFM203

11-18-2003, 03:24 PM

The Marines used the M60 and I dont know that they even had any Abrams in their inventory at the time. .This might be a bit off topic.

I was not in the tank corps. So my knowledge about them is not absolute.

I am curious if the Israeli members or anyone else can answer if the M60 tanks is what the Israelis call the magach (and all its updated versions, like the magach 6 and 7)

If it is I must say that I am a bit surprised that it was used in the gulf war. I know the Israeli ones that are still in use today (besides the markava) are completely retrofitted with the latest armour and technology and thus allows it to be a modern tank but I had always been more impressed with that fact thinking that it was on a tank that was last used in the 60’s or 70’s. While it is still impressive, the fact that the U.S. used it up until the 90’s takes a way a bit of that feat.

So is that the same tank and if it is why were the U.S. using it in the 90’s when they had the Abrams?!? I mean the Israelis use them for they have their budget problems and it is at times cheaper to retrofit one then to build a markava from scratch, but I don’t think the U.S. has such problems (understatement!) ;)

Shalom :D

UoUo

11-18-2003, 03:28 PM

The magah is the M60. :|

Operation Ivy

11-18-2003, 03:55 PM

Yea the M60's were used by the Marines, and they had some where from 4-8 M1 Abrams.....the M1 Abrams used in the Gulf were proably late 80's M1's

Seraphim

11-18-2003, 05:32 PM

but the M1 was an early production model, and i'm not sure if they were even used during the Gulf War. what's the deal with the Humvee?

No humvees were destroyed in desert storm 1.

Tiger

11-18-2003, 05:40 PM

I heard or read somewhere that in one engagement an Iraqi T 80 fired off a Sabot round

Iraq don't use T-80s. It was probably a T-72... ;)

FallenAngel

11-18-2003, 06:44 PM

The only Marine unit that had Abrams in the Gulf was the 4th Tank Battalion. All other USMC armor units used the M60A3. The Army lent an armored Brigade (including Abrams) to the USMC for the duration of the war.