President Bush's Official State Visit To The UK

[MolliG]

Pictures (and some captions) of (and related to) the 43rd President of the United States, President George W. Bush's, official state visit to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

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Security officers check and seal the drains outside The Dunn Cow Inn, a pub in Sedgefield, northern England, Tuesday Nov. 18 2003, amid speculation that British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President Bush may take lunch at the premises during the week. The biggest security operation ever mounted in Britain for a visiting head of state is gearing up, ahead of President Bush's controversial arrival in London later Tuesday. (AP Photo / Owen Humphreys, PA)

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A lone woman protesting against the visit of US President George W. Bush clings to the front gate of Buckingham Palace in London as firemen attempt to coax her down. (AFP/Eric Feferberg)

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Protester Lindis Percy, left, is arrested by police officers after climbing down from the gates of Buckingham Palace where she unfurled an upsidedown US flag to protest President Bush's visit in London, Monday Nov.17, 2003. Bush and his wife will be staying in the palace Tuesday as guests of Britain's Queen Elizabeth II. (AP Photo / PA, John Stillwell)


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A member of the 'Stop the War' organisation prepares protest signs in London ahead of massive street protests planned during US President George W. Bush's state visit to Britain.(AFP/File/Eric Feferberg)

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Police search a suspicious driver at a security check point near Grosvenor Square (close to the US Embassy) in preparation for the upcoming visit to London by US President George W. Bush. The state visit -- the first ever by a US president -- from 18 to 21 November will take place amid fears of an attack by Islamic extremists and as campaigners against the conflict in Iraq predict that tens of thousands will take to the streets in a mass demonstration. (AFP/Jim Watson)

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American author Ron Kovic, who was paralyzed during the Vietnam War and wrote the anti-war book 'Born on the 4th of July' which was later made into a film starring Tom Cruise, sits outside Number 10 Downing Street in London Monday Nov. 17, 2003. Kovic was part of a group that handed in a 100,000 signature petition, opposing the visit of U.S. President George Bush to Britain later this week. (AP Photo/PA, John Stillwell)

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Police inspect drains to be sealed outside the house of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in Trimdon, England, Monday, Nov. 17, 2003, where President Bush, is expected to visit this week. Security chiefs have been placed on Britain's second highest terror alert with 5,000 police officers and hundreds of US agents drafted in ahead of Bush's visit. (AP Photo/Owen Humphreys/PA)

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British police officers search a car at a security checkpoint on Constitution Hill near Buckingham Palace, London November, 17, 2003. Armed police turned the British capital into 'Fortress London' amid heightened fears of a guerrilla attack on the eve of President Bush's visit. Photo by David Bebber/*******

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An armed police officer (C) stands on duty at a security checkpoint on Constitution Hill near Buckingham Palace, London November, 17, 2003. U.S. President George W. Bush is due to arrive in the UK for an official state visit on November 18. *******/David Bebber

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The seal of the President of the United States is adjusted on a marquee erected in front of Buckingham Palace in London, November 17, 2003. The two-domed tent will be used to welcome President George W. Bush who is due to arrive in the UK for a state visit on November 18. *******/Peter Macdiarmid

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Police check drains to be sealed outside the house of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in Trimdon, England, Monday, Nov. 17, 2003, where President Bush, is expected to visit this week. Security chiefs have been placed on Britain's second highest terror alert with 5,000 police officers and hundreds of US agents drafted in ahead of President Bush's visit. (AP Photo/Owen Humphreys/PA)

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Police check vehicles entering and leaving the house of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in Trimdon, England, Monday, Nov. 17, 2003, where the president of the United States, George Bush, is expected to visit this week. Security chiefs have been placed on Britain's second highest terror alert with 5,000 police officers and hundreds of US agents drafted in ahead of President Bush's visit. (AP Photo/Owen Humphreys/PA)

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Security guards and police at the house of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in Trimdon, England, Monday, Nov. 17, 2003, where the President Bush, is expected to visit this week. Security chiefs have been placed on Britain's second highest terror alert with 5,000 police officers and hundreds of US agents drafted in ahead of President Bush's visit. (AP Photo/Owen Humphreys/PA)

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Celebrity chef and self-styled 'domestic goddess' Nigella Lawson will be in the kitchen when Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife Cherie host George and Laura Bush for lunch on Thursday. ******* file photo. *******/Peter Macdiarmid

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US Secret Service Counter Snipers. Thousands of British peace protestors are expected to throng central London when US President George W. Bush touches down in Britain this week on a state visit, but the US Secret Service said it's confident the president will remain 'secure.'(AFP/File/Tim Sloan)

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Protester Brian Haw sits outside Parliament square, calling for peace in Iraq, a few days before US President George W. Bush's state visit to Britain. Bush has insisted intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction was "sound", while refusing to explicitly back British government claims that Baghdad could have unleashed them inside 45 minutes.(AFP/Eric Feferberg)

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Due to the mass amount of pictures, I've only added captions to pictures that really need them.

I personally wish Mr Bush a good time here in the UK, and it's just a shame that he can't visit the rest of GB due to a few, well, idiots. :)

And, now a bit of humour...
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"Can't explain all the feelings that you're making me feel
My heart's in overdrive and you're behind the steering wheel..."

"Woah there Tony!"
Thinking 'WTF?', see here (http://www.nme.co.uk/news/106753.htm).

:D

[HumanShield]

screw those hippys :bash:

[Seoulstriker]

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Socialist Worker

notice how 'social worker' is now 'socialist worker'.

:D

[venture160]

craziness, lets keep this thread going during his entire trip, hopefully we will see some good secret service pictures.

[Operation Ivy]

I thought the Brits liked us :(

[wholagun]

My fellow Brits explain to me this. In Britain its hard to get ahold of hands (well guns period) some cops (Bobbies if you prefer) don't even carry them. But every pic iv seen of British cops they're always packing an MP5.

[stateofequilibrium]

I thought the Brits liked us :(

They do, they just hate Bush. Remember after 9/11.. they broke tradition and their military band played the American Anthem. A lot of them feel that they were tricked into the war by Bush.. so, eh. And most Americans love the Brits too.. except if they try to cook for us, then we'll know they really hate us.

[Trigger]

Thanks MolliG. Great pics. :D

[Seoulstriker]

Thanks MolliG. Great pics. :D

i didn't realize that MolliG was the author of the thread! woot woot woot

[Chris1]

I thought the Brits liked us :(
You've got it all wrong mate
we like American women
Only a very small percentage like American men :)

[96B]

British policemen do not normally carry any kind of firearm but in this case there is a need for extra security thus the Heckler and Kochs.

[Gringo]

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I seen this hippy before at that place, gave him the finger when I went past there a few months ago. It's strange they hasn't been arrested for making London look like a trash pile. Too many hippies with too much time on their hands. Although I honeslty say that I don't really like George "Dubya" Bush.


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Looks like a HK53

[Seoulstriker]

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you can't forget the flag for the gay and lesbian alliance. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[He219]

I wonder what the Saddam, Al Qaeda and the Taliban must think of all the protesting?

Somehow I doubt that would discourage their resolve to kill innocents, including the protesters themselves..

:roll:

[wholagun]

British policemen do not normally carry any kind of firearm but in this case there is a need for extra security thus the Heckler and Kochs.

I understand this is a situation which calls for this kind of power, but aside from this, most of the pics Iv come accross are always with Bobbies with MP5s. Any how, I just thought it was wierd.

[[AFSOC]]

The British are far from being the US closest allie. Maybe Politically they are but the people of Britain are far from being friends with arms wide open.

[steel bonnet]

l think you`ll find Gods Son,take your head outta yer hairy arse,that we in the UK do indeed love you Yankees :D :lol:

It`s just a small percentage of the population that are either misinformed,working to sause chaos within the system or down right supporters of Terrorism that are indeed Anti American.

Doesn`t help though that we`ve allowed our Once Sacred Septer Island,to be invaded by all these buggers from across the world,bringing THERE traditions & ways & forcing the UK to adopt them.

After all our Goverments wouldn`t dare do ANYTHING that may label them as RASCIST or POLITICALLY INCORRECT. The UK alas has gone PC mad & these Unwelcomed guests/Mis-informed/Working or Supporters of terrorists & Oppressive leaders/Pattsies for the Media/Homo******s,Have taken advantage of the PC UK & well we`re on a roller coaster to HELL :(

So Take heed,the US is our friend & so is BUSH. If one leader won`t stand up,who will,certainly NOT the French (who are led by the nose by Germany) or any other European country,Nor the UN as there in it for the Money.

It will almost always come down to the US & UK to be the defenders & keepers of what`s RIGHT. Also Iraq makes a better base of Ops for the Mid-East ;) As we can finally tell the Saudies what we truely think of them :D

So please,please don`t think the UK hates you,just the Corrupt & Stupid Liberals & Terrorist/Oppressor Lover groups do hate you.Add to that the Students (as it`s there God Given right to Protest & then get pissed & have *** sessions,or at least in my day it was :D ).

Ja
Steel Bonnet

As General Patton once said,"the US & Great Britain will go one to lead the Free World" Damn Straight :D

[Trigger]

Gods SoN wrote:

The British are far from being the US closest allie. Maybe Politically they are but the people of Britain are far from being friends with arms wide open.
Really? and from what orifice did you pull that tidbit of information? :roll:

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Ok you guys plainly forget that in free countries you have the right to protest. Im not sure if your just dumb or over-look the fact..They can protest all day if they want on any subject because they have a right too.

[Whistler]

Ya but you're forgetting that in free countries we are also allowed to call people idiots when we think they are idiots.

Get a grip, its not like we are going out with assault rifles and denying them their right to go on their little marches.

[Vance]

From CNN....

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^^
If I've ever wanted to slap the everliving CRAP out of a woman....now's that time. :fork:

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Well yes you do have the right to call people idiots.
hey whistler swallow chode there buddy

[Operation Ivy]

I dont ever want to see a Swastika on the American Flag :fork: :bash:

[Ekie]

Thanks for the pictures, gotta admit I am a bit disappointed, where are all the hooligans? We want hooligan pictures! We have plenty of Neo-Commies and hippies State side.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

I agree with Ekie...I wanna see people getting pepper sprayed n beat down like the WTO Riots in Vancouver and the "Battle in Seattle"...Cant wait to see the pictures from the next meeting, Isnt it in Miami or in San Degio?

[[AFSOC]]

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Really? and from what orifice did you pull that tidbit of information? :roll:

What?? Are you blind man? Why dont you go read and listen to the news....dont you see the millions that protest US FOREIGN Policy....are you that blind?

Jeez man

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

"What?? Are you blind man? Why dont you go read and listen to the news....dont you see the millions that protest US FOREIGN Policy....are you that blind?

Jeez man"

Ya man but dont try to explain it to them..anyone that doesnt agree 100% with them is a hippie-communist terrorist loving liberal.

[Skaman]

Users of this forum are slowly learning. Bush is in for a hell of a visit, im gonna sit back in my armchair and smile as this all unfolds.

[SFontaine]

"What?? Are you blind man? Why dont you go read and listen to the news....dont you see the millions that protest US FOREIGN Policy....are you that blind?

Jeez man"

Ya man but dont try to explain it to them..anyone that doesnt agree 100% with them is a hippie-communist terrorist loving liberal.


Who ever said we called em terorists? They are hippie commies though judging by their signs (Socialist=Commie, smart guy)

[Skaman]

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you can't forget the flag for the gay and lesbian alliance. :roll: :roll: :roll:


May I ask what you have against those people who happen to be gay or lesbian? I can only ask as you seem to roll your eyes and love to sterotypically profile people ie.



muslims think we're a christian country, and Islam teaches that non-believers must be killed.

[Eviscerator]

One thing i would like to add to this 'conversation', those protestors do not speak for the majority of Britain, infact more people support the recent visit than oppose it according to recent polls. It is very annoying that the vocal minority are taken as a spokesman for the opinion of the UK, i am an englishman myself and have not seen one die hard anti-bushist expressing their views, infact many of the people i have spoken to are glad of the relationship Britain has with America and are happy that the war in Iraq has happened. There are infact a very small minority protesting, in a city of 14 million there are only tens of thousands protesting. There really is not as much anti-americanism in Britain as news reports would lead you to believe.

Just because the pro-war, pro-american lobby in Britain do not take to the streets does not mean we do not exist.

[MolliG]

Even more pictures :)...

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A protester draped in a Palestinian flag is stopped by police outside Buckingham Palace in London Wednesday Nov. 19, 2003. A massive security operation is in place in the capital for the state visit of America's President Bush, who is staying at the Palace as a guest of The Queen. (AP Photo/PA, Chris Young)

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US President George W. Bush walks with Prince Charles on arriving at Heathrow Airport. Bush is due to defend the US invasion of Iraq in a key speech during the first full day of his state visit to Britain(AFP/Tim Sloan)

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President Bush passes the honour guard from the Royal Air Force on his arrival at Heathrow Airport, London Tuesday Nov.18, 2003. Bush is on an official state visit to Britain. (AP Photo/Dave Caulkin)

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Miss Flaming Planet, otherwise known as Lucy Wills, a committee member on the Campaign for Climate Change action group, stands in front of British police officers as she takes part in a demonstration in central London, November, 18, 2003. The demonstration was being held on Tuesday night to coincide with the arrival of U.S. President George W. Bush in the UK for the start of a four-day state visit. *******/David Bebber

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Protesters gather in the Turbine Hall of the Tate Modern art gallery's exhibition of Olaf Eliasson - The Weather Project in central London, Tuesday Nov. 18, 2003, to spell out the message 'Bush Go Home Now!'. President Bush was scheduled to arrive Tuesday in London for a three-day state visit. (AP Photo/Johnny Green-PA)

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And a story, which along with the raid on Jackson's Neverland Ranch, is the 'main' news today, 'I COULD HAVE KILLED BUSH' (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-12930280,00.html) (from Sky News Online).

[Steve Andrews]

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"Oi, mate. Give us a go on your shootah....."

[Uncle Chô]

" Is Iraq another Vietnam ? " This question regularly arise on this Forum, which I usually find is a nonsense from a military point of vue but seeing what is happening in London and reading all the "arguments" that have been written about the protestors, I can say from what happens in London, yes, this is another Vietnam.

It seems the " hard hats " are in force on this forum with an instinctive hate for the so-called "Hippies" and gays...

you can't forget the flag for the gay and lesbian alliance.

Really? and from what orifice did you pull that tidbit of information?


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Protestors have the same excessive slogans than in Detroit, Chicago, Washington, Berkeley, London, Paris or Berlin 37 years ago and no wonder why we see so many 50 years old men and women on pictures, they probably are the same that demonstrated againt President Johnson in their early twenties...

History is repeating itself.

I wish nobody will get hurt and no damage done to the city of London because extremists from both sides are getting so excited to show up...

Go luck to the British law enforcement officers, they have hard days ahead. woot

Protestors could be elusive and undercovered ;)

http://www.wgar.com/caption/photos/oink.jpg

Someone asked about pepper spray ??
(Photo Archives)


http://www.elksoft.com/gwa/history/dcwto/bigpigspray.jpg

http://www.kang.org/images/6imfpeppergas.jpg

http://www.cascadiamedia.org/articles/graphics/policeattack.jpg

http://www.jasonschock.com/photos/082000/dnc/dnc_washing_out_pepper_spray_082000.jpg

[MolliG]

More pictures :D...

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.reb10211191228.britain_bush_protest_reb102.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.pmm10211191225.britain_bush_pmm102.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.lon12811191223.britain_bush_protest_lon128.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031119/i/r3726941120.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031119/i/r2740230420.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.cdh10611191218.britain_us_bush_visit_cdh106.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.lon12611191216.britain_bush_lon126.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031119/capt.sge.ghp33.191103121802.photo02.default-384x257.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20031119/mdf410302.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.lon11911191211.britain_bush_lon119.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.lon12011191210.britain_bush_lon120.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031119/i/r3345050258.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.lon11711191143.britain_bush_lon117.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.ldc10111191141.britain_bush_ldc101.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031119/i/r155403259.jpg

[Guttorm]

[quote="MolliG"]
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.lon12611191216.britain_bush_lon126.jpg

This is not meant to offend someone, but it looks like KFC put up a cosession stand outside of Buckinghampalace... :D

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.ldc10111191141.britain_bush_ldc101.jpg

"can you score one of those hats for me?"

[steel bonnet]

Some great photos of POLICE dealing with those IDIOTS on the streets :D
:bash: :D

Well as said there`s only around 1 or so Million people who`ll probably do the rallies.

That in no way shows the majority rule & if any of you guys & gals in the States can see UK TV. You will notice that the Media isn`t giving the Pro US,Pro Bush, Majority any form of voice at all.

l Hope he enjoys himself & that our boys in Blue do finally get to crack heads with the Idiots on the streets :D

Oh just one point,why is it that Other Nationalists who take to becoming apart of the new nation they live in.

Still claim to be from there nation of Origin. Sorry if you flee,Sell out,Economics,whatever,you move to another NATION you take there Customs,there beliefs (if any) & there ways.
NOT screaming there butchering your fellow (Former) countrymen.
These people we CRACK there heads the MOST in my book.

:fork: :bash: :bash:

So US we are you friends & no doubt forever will be,as long as no British Goverment sells us out to the Euro,then that`s us down the Chute :(

Ja
Steel Bonnet

[Ekie]

To our allies across the pond, we know we are on the same side. Been that way for quite some time now, so don't worry about the press's portrayal of the UK as a bunch of 1960's hippies. Here State side we have stopped watching the nightly news/CNN and reading the papers, and that is despite the lame efforts of the likes of Gods SoN (did you catch that, he is begging us to go back and watch the news, HA!).

All the same, I WANT HOOLIGAN PICS!

[Uncle Chô]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.pmm10211191225.britain_bush_pmm102.jpg

Her Majesty The Queen : " The Hun' was on my tail... I made a steep dive with my Spitfire to escape... "

George W. Bush (thinking) : " Those dam*** Brits and their past heritage ... "


http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031119/capt.ldc10111191141.britain_bush_ldc101.jpg

" Gee, look at those hairs, I think we did it wrong by providing GMO food to the UK... "

[Uncle Chô]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031119/capt.sge.ghp33.191103121802.photo02.default-384x257.jpg

Police Officer : " No, you can't wait here for Sharon ! "

Demontrator (Mortimer ?) : What ?? Do am I wrong, am I not in Ghaza, Palestine ??

Note : how stupid is this guy (woman ?)... :cantbeli: That is a smart way to dress like that and not to draw attention from the Police (if not sniper's bullets)... Did we say : provocation ? :|

[Tiger]

" Gee, look at those hairs, I think we did it wrong by providing GMO food to the UK... "

Her Majesty The Queen : " The Hun' was on my tail... I made a steep dive with my Spitfire to escape... "

George W. Bush (thinking) : " Those dam*** Brits and their past heritage ... "

Police Officer : " No, you can't wait here for Sharon ! "

Demontrator (Mortimer ?) : What ?? Do am I wrong, am I not in Ghaza, Palestine ??

rofl

LOL, Uncle Cho ! :D

[martinexsquaddie]

Socialist Worker
and the Party the Socialist workers Party who flog there dammed newspaper turn up at any demo for any reason mostly to either recruit new members or sell there stupid newspaper. There loathed by the left and hippys etc because thats all they ever do. The majority of protestors will be law abiding people appalled by the war. They may be naive or wrong trouble is out of all those that march there will be 1% knuckleheads who will try to have ago at the police because there hard corp anarchists or more likely they got tanked up and fancy a ruck.
So poor old plod wades in to stop these cretins and a whole load of peace loving people go away saying the police behaved badly.
Once had a friend went to folkstone to have ago at the National front spotted this bloke with a very short haircut going into a pub rushed up to him with crys of Bash the Nazi only to discover the pub was full of 3 Para.
slightly confused about being called Nazis but any excuse for a brawl. socialist resistance flee folkstone in there 2CV. moral of this story time spent in recon is never wasted :P

[Royal]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031118/capt.sge.fyo64.181103151550.photo02.default-370x279.jpg

Chelsea Pensioner - oldest serving members of the UK armed forces :lol:

[Roger Rabbit]

I live near folkstone. :oops: Inbreds, bit like the Isle of White but not quite as bad. Definately not up on the scale with Sheppy though.

Back to hippies though, i went into a flat the other night and it had some anti-Bush posters and stuff on the walls. Fair enough everybody is entitled to an opinion. Then i looked at the people, (this was a uni flat) 2 of them had been kicked out and were sleeping on the kitchen floor, there were drugs everywhere. They looked like a bunch of long haired unwashed freaks. The only good thing going for them was some quality beer.

[Haiw]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031118/i/r3945917320.jpg
mmm she can do some global warming protesting near my house if she wants :lol:

[dhfactory]

Bush just came to Australia, we had all the same BS here.

He's welcome back whenever he want's as far as i'm concerned. ;)

-Sean

[marktigger]

I would say most British like America. You will of course get the usual suspects demonstrating but hey its a democracy so what do you expect. You should be proud of the fact that we allow the right to protest and will defend that right even if we don't agree with the protesters.
With regards to heads of states visits to America there have been lots of protests by Irish America on visits by our Royal Family some have even goten close enough to ask embarassing questions!
As to British Police being armed for the visit it is only a minority of officers who are armed the Vast majority of British police officers do not carry fire arms the only 2 permantley armed forces in the UK as far as I am aware are the Police service of Northern Ireland(formerly Royal Ulster Constabulary (the best police force in the world)) and the UK Atomic energy authority police. I would trust a British police man with a firearm much quicker than i would trust a secret serviceman or any US law enforcement officer.

[Fioraon]

I thought the British had a good educational system?

[[AFSOC]]

They do...its better then the US educational system. Thats totally irrelavent though buddy...

[Operation Ivy]

I thought the British had a good educational system? :cantbeli: