Irish Army DPM Comouflage

[Twombles375]

Can someone please tell me (a link to a store would be nice) where to buy this Irish DPM Camouflage? Pictured here http://www.21infantry.com/images/equipment.jpg
If the Irish DPM is to expensive, or hard to find I will settle with British DPM. But how long ago were they using the British DPM so I can get a more accurate impression. (Going for a 21st Infantry Batt. Irish Army Reserve Impression)

Thanks.

[Imshi-Yallah]

Sigh, its illegal to purchase in service items of Irish uniform, its a whole anti terrorism thing.

[Dalleer]

Try Ebay , and the other internet auction - sites.. You might get lucky..

[moughoun]

Can someone please tell me (a link to a store would be nice) where to buy this Irish DPM Camouflage? Pictured here
If the Irish DPM is to expensive, or hard to find I will settle with British DPM. But how long ago were they using the British DPM so I can get a more accurate impression. (Going for a 21st Infantry Batt. Irish Army Reserve Impression)

Thanks.
like Imshi said, it's illigal, sorry, and we never used Brit DPM, only the SF unit the ARW, and sniper's, although I have seen non military people wearing it so Ebay may be a good starting point, good luck

[Lightweight 88]

I've seen it for sale on E-bay on occasion.
I've also noted it amongst the stock of Belgian traders at militaria and military vehicle fairs (increasingly so in the past couple of years). That's the only place I've ever seen it in any quantity.

Only other place I've come across it for sale is in Northern Ireland. Where occasional full sets of Irish kit appear, and always command very respectable price tags.

[Twombles375]

Alright, I got a guy who has a pair or two, that will most likely sell to me (waiting for email back with price). Where can I find there Beret, Beret Badge, and Rank Insignia along with what ever Division patches they have? That might be the hard stuff to find.. :roll:

[Lightweight 88]

I might be able to help you there.
Certainly have a bag full of the old style rank badges, a couple of Brassards and some fairly elderly unit patches.

The more modern stuff I don't have "in stock" as it were, but may be able to obtain some. Could take me a while though as it'll be when I next bump into someone...

[Dalleer]

Uuhh ... "suspicious traders" have appeared..

[Lightweight 88]

If you're referring to me old man, nothing in the least suspicious about me. I trade to support my own hobby, pure and simple.

As the lads from across the border have pointed out, trade in Irish military equipment is illegal in the Republic. Hence it is relatively rare on the collectors market and that incurs something of a premium when you're swapping or selling the odd items you can lay hands on.

Living in N.I. I'm probably better placed than most to pick up odds and ends and so I tend to grab any I see. I keep what I want for myself and pass the rest on, either as trades or for a small consideration of the purely fiscal variety :) I prefer the former if I can negotiate a mutally agreeable settlement.

I should also point out that such trade is not illegal in Northern Ireland, or indeed anywhere else in the world.

[Imshi-Yallah]

Not illegal, just extremely helpful to people like this:
http://www.geocities.com/southarmaghsniper1/Continuity2.jpg

[RGRBOX]

Nice Camo... Try going to www.Arktis.co.uk If you have to contact them and ask if you can order some..

[Lightweight 88]

I hope there's no implication behind that post ;)

And I do take your point actually. Although obviously have a different view on it than yourself. I tend to take the view that the hobby trade in general impedimenta has as much bearing on the ability of players to obtain that equipment as the sport shooting community has on their ability to procure firearms.

[martinexsquaddie]

thats britsh army dpm making that illegal would be impossible now

[DTTO]

thats britsh army dpm making that illegal would be impossible now

Are you referring to the picture? if so; What's the person on the right wearing? Irish DPM or some other stuff?

S.

[Twombles375]

The guy on the right in the picture is wearing british DPM.

[moughoun]

The guy on the right in the picture is wearing british DPM.
and the guy next to him is wearing Irish dpm ;)

[oldsoak]

@Moughoun - did the defence force design that form of DPM or was it "bought in ?". Reason why I ask is first time I saw it, I thought hello, its CE pattern, then, wait a minute -its like that Israeli stuff but with temperate colours. Then I gave up and went back to the Guiness.... :)

[DTTO]

The guy on the right in the picture is wearing british DPM.
and the guy next to him is wearing Irish dpm ;)

Rgr, thanks for the confirmation.

S.

[Twombles375]

Oh, him.. :cantbeli: I knew that I was just..kidding around.. :|

[DTTO]

Oh, him.. :cantbeli: I knew that I was just..kidding around.. :|

:lol: Seems like an effective camouflage pattern ;)

S.

[marktigger]

could also be french DPM the 2 are fairly similar. It will fall into the hands of the lunatics any way either stolen given in good faith or unfortunatley issued. At least the Irish govt can't get away with giving kit to terrorists like it did in the 60's and 70's

[oldsoak]

....we did much the same in foreign parts for filthy lucre or political gain... :)

[moughoun]

@Moughoun - did the defence force design that form of DPM or was it "bought in ?". Reason why I ask is first time I saw it, I thought hello, its CE pattern, then, wait a minute -its like that Israeli stuff but with temperate colours. Then I gave up and went back to the Guiness.... :)
yes it was designed by the DF, the smock is a Canadian design and the pant's are crap for my size ;)


MARK.TIGGER

could also be french DPM the 2 are fairly similar. It will fall into the hands of the lunatics any way either stolen given in good faith or unfortunatley issued. At least the Irish govt can't get away with giving kit to terrorists like it did in the 60's and 70's

ok already, we're sorry you were ******ly molested by a leprechaun here, what more do you want?

[Dalleer]

The French pattern is called the "CCE" not DPM.


http://www.henrikc.dk/camouflage/france_centre_europe_f2_front.jpg

http://www.henrikc.dk/camouflage/ireland_dpm_front.jpg

I wouldn't confuse them , but I guess some of you guys would.

[Twombles375]

Okay, I've heard that Irish DPM is called "Paddyflage". Is this correct? Or is who ever said it a complete dumbass?

[Dalleer]

Actually , I'm pretty sure the person who said it is indeed a complete dumbass.

And "good heavens".. Why the hell would the Irish call their pattern the 'Paddyflage' !? More likely , that name's been made up by.. Well , dumbasses.

Irish DPM is still the official designation , to me at least.

[marktigger]

DPM = disruptive pattern materiel.

Isn't that what all camoflage is? or does CCE mean the same but in french? which if that is the case is really splitting hairs.

[oldsoak]

:)
- should have said that in French ( what is splitting hairs in French btw ? or is there an equivalent frech term ? )

[Dalleer]

Well , as I've understood "CCE" in short could be translated as something like "central-European pattern".

To my knowledge it isn't the equivalent of the sentence "disruptive pattern material".

[oscarni]

Howdy,

I want to apologise firstly to the mods as after reading the rules it appeared better to bump up a old thread with the same type of rather than post a new thread, so here it goes lol Secondly I am NOT selling them on here, this is just a call for help.

I wanted to get your opinions, I am flogging off my Irish DPM set on ebay but I am unsure as to what price to set the reserve on them, I haven't seen any Irish DPM on Ebay, so I was wondering what reference price you think i should set the reserve for them, both are supergrade:

Irish DPM - Combat Tunic - Small
Irish DPM - Combat Trousers - Size 34"



http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3088/dsc00045cr3.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6659/dsc00046sh0.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1796/dsc00047jt0.jpg


Has any one seen these items up for sale before I am trying to a reference of how much these usally go for.

So far its been suggested £100 to £120 for the smock and £50 to £60 for the trousers, what do you guys think?

Thanks!
- Phil

[mrmeindl]

Howdy,

I want to apologise firstly to the mods as after reading the rules it appeared better to bump up a old thread with the same type of rather than post a new thread, so here it goes lol Secondly I am NOT selling them on here, this is just a call for help.

I wanted to get your opinions, I am flogging off my Irish DPM set on ebay but I am unsure as to what price to set the reserve on them, I haven't seen any Irish DPM on Ebay, so I was wondering what reference price you think i should set the reserve for them, both are supergrade:

Irish DPM - Combat Tunic - Small
Irish DPM - Combat Trousers - Size 34"



Has any one seen these items up for sale before I am trying to a reference of how much these usally go for.

So far its been suggested £100 to £120 for the smock and £50 to £60 for the trousers, what do you guys think?

Thanks!
- Phil

Its not going to last very long on ebay because someone will report it and it will be taken down. It is illegal to sell Defence forces property.

[oscarni]

Its not going to last very long on ebay because someone will report it and it will be taken down. It is illegal to sell Defence forces property.

Its Illegal in the Republic of Ireland, not the rest of the planet.

[Imshi-Yallah]

Would you people support any other criminal activities in the pursuit of airsofting "glory?

[oscarni]

Would you people support any other criminal activities in the pursuit of airsofting "glory?

What makes you think I am an airsofter? As per the rules on here if the mods want to close the thread I will bow to their wisdom.

[edit]
Just a petpeeve but none the less, because some one collects items does not make them an airsofter, surely I could assume that by the same measure your a hairy 4ft 3in monkey with little to no intelligence based on your image. But that can't be right, only a unintelligent person would post a response to a thread that has no bearing on the thread or the question within... wait... ::looks at your post::

[ZULU9niner]

Its Illegal in the Republic of Ireland, not the rest of the planet.

It is illegal to sell DF property according to Irish Law, true. This has the effect of making anyone who does sell it, be it internationally or domestic, a criminal in the eyes of the Irish Courts - 3000Euro fine and or Imprisonment not exceeding 6 months.

I do however understand the desire for collectors to obtain rare items for their collections. But in general I have found that military collectors have some sense of honour to the military and their laws that they collect in and generally abide by it.

If people have it and have made their minds to sell it, they'll sell it. But don't expect to be on good standing with most Irish soldiers on the site.

[oscarni]

It is illegal to sell DF property according to Irish Law, true. This has the effect of making anyone who does sell it, be it internationally or domestic, a criminal in the eyes of the Irish Courts - 3000Euro fine and or Imprisonment not exceeding 6 months.

I do however understand the desire for collectors to obtain rare items for their collections. But in general I have found that military collectors have some sense of honour to the military and their laws that they collect in and generally abide by it.

If people have it and have made their minds to sell it, they'll sell it. But don't expect to be on good standing with most Irish soldiers on the site.

Valid point, I will make a request to the mods to close the thread