Clarke's Not Afraid to Speak About Side Show.

[wholagun]

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player.html?4908&FOX_News_Live&Setting%20the%20Record%20Straight&wvx-300

I don't get fox news here in Canada, but my friend sent me this link. I found it quite funny actually. Good to see Clarke has some balls and overpower the Fox news anchor.. Clarke looks like a guy that can push though his agenda, no dout. At least the man speaks for what he believes and isn't scared to take on even the most formitable forces at Fox News.

So Americans, is he the one as he puts it get out us [Americans] out of this mess?

[Vance]

Most guys on this board don't like him too much. He's an empty uniform.

[Zach R.]

If I was going to give him an interview, he better carry a gun for self-defense. :D

[fred_engles]

I was a big fan of the idea of Clark running, but, since he's come into the campaign, he's been a disappointment to me (like his recent statement on the flag-burning amendment). Nonetheless, this video almost made a fan of me again.

[Seoulstriker]

I just saw that video. Clark is an idiot.

[100_Percent_HOOAH]

All I know is that I've seen a few interviews with Clark prior to his running and in each he outlined his support for President Bush on the Iraq war, but once he entered the race he started slamming Bush..hmmmm

[Vance]

All I know is that I've seen a few interviews with Clark prior to his running and in each he outlined his support for President Bush on the Iraq war, but once he entered the race he started slamming Bush..hmmmm
Because he's only telling people what they want to hear. This dude will say anything for a vote. What a flake.

[jdbjdb]

Many Officers and Politicians don't think to highly of Clark

[SFontaine]

I love it. When President Bush makes a slight slip of the tongue or something he's branded a moron but when Mr Clark here says News Week knows the whereabouts of Osama or or calls Paul Bremer Jerry Bremer it's no prob.

[IDFM203]

I just saw the clip from the link posted on top (oh yeah again please explain why canada does not allow canadians to get fox news?!? ;) :roll: )

I think Clark did terrible.

Its not even about what he said. It seemed that he lost his cool and decided to go ape s*ht on the interviewer. I mean that’s not the type of president you want at the nuclear controls ;) :roll:

Also I think the interviewer did a good job especially when he took the thunder out of Clark when he said that he was the father of a marine. I thought that was awesome. I mean he totally took Clark out from of his rambling tirade

Anyways I think he had a great military career, but after all his clear and obvious back peddling from before and after he decided to run, and his now going bonkers in a simple interview, I just don’t think he will be a good president or vice president (which is what I think he is really going for ;) for I think he knows thats his most realistic chance of getting into power….)

Anyways that’s just my thoughts on it

Shalom :D

[wholagun]

I just saw the clip from the link posted on top (oh yeah again please explain why canada does not allow canadians to get fox news?!? )


I totaly forgot to respond to your question way back when, so ill do it now. In Canada there is no censureship of the media, to the best of my knowledge. The CBC is helped paid for by taxes but the government does not have say in what is covered.
Don't know why we don't get Fox in Canada on regular cable? The only news US network we do get in Canada is CNN at least where I come from and this is on regular cable, you can get it via Satilite. We don't get MSNBC news or any of those networks. May have something to do with lack of demand ( which i can see happening considering that Fox is more pro US in its coverage) where as CNN offers a greater Internaitonal scope in its coverage. I can't see alot of Canadians watching Fox news,,, at least not any time soon. CNN yeah thats differnt, but Fox, no. Its like asking why Americans don't watch CBC? Also, possibly because of lack of interest it would not make economic sense in Fox setting up shot in Canada, no one would watch it thus no advertisements to earn money off. (this is just my opinon as to why the things are the way they are, I could be totaly wrong on this one, I hope my fellow Canadians will help and shed some light perhaps)

[StarvingStudent47]

... I just don’t think he will be a good president or vice president (which is what I think he is really going for ;) for I think he knows thats his most realistic chance of getting into power….)

All you conservatives can just let go of the Hillary thing. She ain't running in 2004. There's no vast left-wing conspiracy to keep a Clinton in the White House ;)

While Clark isn't perfect, I like him better than anyone else in the Democratic field right now (especially that wacko Dean), and I like his domestic policies a lot more than Bush's, so I'll probably vote for him.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

"Because he's only telling people what they want to hear. This dude will say anything for a vote. What a flake."

Well that makes every politican I've ever heard of a f*ckin tool then. Isnt that the whole point of trying to get elected is tell everyone what they wanna hear?

[IDFM203]

... I just don’t think he will be a good president or vice president (which is what I think he is really going for ;) for I think he knows thats his most realistic chance of getting into power….)

All you conservatives can just let go of the Hillary thing. She ain't running in 2004. There's no vast left-wing conspiracy to keep a Clinton in the White House ;)
. heheh now while I will cop to that conservative label, I am not a party hack of any kind and as such I try not to delve into any of those conspiracy charges (although since you brought it up I think you need to remember that it was Hilary that first made this whole conspiracy thing up when she first rambled on about the vast right wing conspiracy before any of this…but that’s besides the point.)

No, over here I did not mean her. sorry :| ;)

I was serious tough. My view is that being that he is new to politics, the chances of him winning are slim for now, although I can see the logic of the democratic nominee, whomever it might be taking him on as a running mate. That is all I meant by it, honestly. Hilary had nothing to do with my statements.

But now that you mention it, perhaps there is someting there with regards to hilary ;) …hmm :roll: ;)

Regardless though like I said before, I think the interview on fox showed him in a bad light, as I explained in my previous post.

Shalom my friend :D

[IDFM203]

I just saw the clip from the link posted on top (oh yeah again please explain why canada does not allow canadians to get fox news?!? )


I totaly forgot to respond to your question way back when, so ill do it now. In Canada there is no censureship of the media, to the best of my knowledge. The CBC is helped paid for by taxes but the government does not have say in what is covered.
Don't know why we don't get Fox in Canada on regular cable? The only news US network we do get in Canada is CNN at least where I come from and this is on regular cable, you can get it via Satilite. We don't get MSNBC news or any of those networks. May have something to do with lack of demand ( which i can see happening considering that Fox is more pro US in its coverage) where as CNN offers a greater Internaitonal scope in its coverage. I can't see alot of Canadians watching Fox news,,, at least not any time soon. CNN yeah thats differnt, but Fox, no. Its like asking why Americans don't watch CBC? Also, possibly because of lack of interest it would not make economic sense in Fox setting up shot in Canada, no one would watch it thus no advertisements to earn money off. (this is just my opinon as to why the things are the way they are, I could be totaly wrong on this one, I hope my fellow Canadians will help and shed some light perhaps) I think you are wrong for I don’t think that those are the reasons given for it.

Now the point is that Canadians are not given the choice!!

Yes I understand that Canada is predominately liberal but there are huge pockets of conservative views such as a lot of western Canada excluding Vancouver. And other areas as well.

The fact is that there are viewers that would watch fox news and cant because of Canada not allowing it.

Actually in our last conversation, I believe pinkeye explained that was due to cultural implications as to why it is not allowed. Like for example where on the radio a certain percentage must be Canadian content and the same for TV.

Well A, that is a form of censorship, even if it is justified.
And B, Canada allows cnn but forbids other U.S. news stations. That seems like censorship to me as well.

The point is again that Canadians are not even given the chance to choose whether they want it or not. That smells like censorship to me.

I would appreciate though a better understanding or a clearing up of this if in fact I got something wrong in my analysis here.

Shalom :D

[Early Chow Recruit]

You are very astute, perhaps you would like to vote mister clark into the top of your government ? Why don't you concentrate more on getting your hand out of your fellow Canadiens pockets and less on the affairs of the United States.

Yes, I know I called him mister and didn't capitalize his name.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

I dont know what your talking about there idfm203. I got msnbc and cnn, your right I dont have fox news but from what i've heard about it its pretty bias and far from "fair and balanced". Besides CBC is a great newstation that keeps everyone well informed even about governmet mistakes and blunders. P.S. It also show's double header games of Canadian teams playing Hockey on Saturday Night, its practically a tradition that everyone watches it.

[IDFM203]

to bastardchild (??)

That’s the whole point

Again, you don’t have fox news but “you only heard”. I mean you have not seen it nor have you been given the choice to see it. The fact is that the Canadian government bans it.

As for bias, well I prefer not to go there for those charges are laid on both sides simply depending on which side you are on. I mean while people chide fox for being a right wind waco site people also chide the cbc as well as the British bbc as being some aloof retarded leftist site.

Again the point is that Canada doesn’t give Canadians the choice and that smells like censorship. It’s not about bias for everyone has bias. There is no excuse to forbid a channel simply because its accused of bias. I mean in the U.S. a lot of people accuse the bbc of bias but yet you can find them on some cable programs. The same should be for Canada but as of now it is not.

Capish?!? ;)

Shalom :D

[wholagun]

I was talking to this one Amerian (Political Science Phd. from Magill University in Montreal he earned his undergrade in Univ of Chicago and his MA at Ottawa Univ, he told me that you don't get any more Americanized then Fox news. Fox news he told me is a joke, its so pro US. Now I consider him an excellent cause 1) he's a Political Phd and has an informed opinion and 2) he now works for the US foreign service. For an American to come out and tell me that Fox is the pinicale of what it is to be Americanized, speaks for itself.
If your gonna say that because here in Canada we don't get fox that our opinions are uninformed or that we don't uderstand, then what about North Americans in general cause you propably know we don't get Al Jazeria. Many Amerians know and don't have watch that Al Jazeria is bias and pro Arab and Muslim. Many Amerians and Canadians come out and make that calim but yet have never seen it, all they get is American media. Can you then say that they have no choice lik us in Canada? Say they did have choice would they want to watch it? Maybe they would I don't know but Im willing to bet no, same as us in Canada wouldn't want to get Fox.

I hope what I wrote makes sense idf203,(Im writing 2 essaies now, sick of words) if not Ill try to clairify the part you don't,

[wholagun]

Again the point is that Canada doesn’t give Canadians the choice and that smells like censorship

You can only call it censorship if fox was denied access to the Canadian media market. To my knowledge Fox has not applied to have it program here in Canada (30 million, small market ;) to capred to US) If Fox was denied access to Canadian viewers then I would fully agree with you, however this hasn't happened yet, so you can't really call it censorhip. Can't censor someone who doesn't speak up or make their voice heard.

I made a mistake I do get MSNBC, i just never watch cause its too financial too me, but I like CNN. MSNBC got permission from the gov't to have it program run here, if Fox applied to have their program run in Canada too im sure that they would be allowed as well, not sure if they'd make any money from it but hey.

[[AFSOC]]

I just saw that video. Clark is an idiot.

Calling a War vet/hero an idiot.....how brave of you.

[Seoulstriker]

I just saw that video. Clark is an idiot.

Calling a War vet/hero an idiot.....how brave of you.

are you aware of the whole situation surrounding Clark?

[Vance]

I just watched the video, and I was confused on how he first said

''We're in a mess'' (Talking about the War in Iraq)

Then he goes on to say

''Our men and women are doing a fabulous job over there''

Okay.....stick to one story please :cantbeli:

[Seoulstriker]

I just watched the video, and I was confused on how he first said

''We're in a mess'' (Talking about the War in Iraq)

Then he goes on to say

''Our men and women are doing a fabulous job over there''

Okay.....stick to one story please :cantbeli:

clark has some serious psychological problems. ;)

[Nawlins]

I finally watched the video. I'm completely unimpressed.

[NcDeuce]

I just saw that video. Clark is an idiot.

Calling a War vet/hero an idiot.....how brave of you.

We may not admire the man and his tactics now but you've got to respect the General's accomplishments and record.

Clark graduated first in his class in 1966 at West Point.

Clark studied at Oxford University as a Rhodes Scholar from 1966 to 1968, receiving a Masters Degree in Politics, Philosophy, and Economics.

From 1969 to 1970, Captain Clark served in Vietnam. In February 1970, he was wounded in battle. He suffered gunshot wounds to the right shoulder, right hand, right hip and right leg. For his valor, he earned the Silver Star.

Personally, I believe he was a good leader/commander but things changed once he got that star. :(

[Nawlins]

Clark graduated first in his class in 1966 at West Point.

Clark studied at Oxford University as a Rhodes Scholar from 1966 to 1968, receiving a Masters Degree in Politics, Philosophy, and Economics.

From 1969 to 1970, Captain Clark served in Vietnam. In February 1970, he was wounded in battle. He suffered gunshot wounds to the right shoulder, right hand, right hip and right leg. For his valor, he earned the Silver Star.

Personally, I believe he was a good leader/commander but things changed once he got that star.

He sounds like a very intelligent and brave man, but in what I saw, he made an ass of himself.

[IDFM203]

I was talking to this one Amerian (Political Science Phd. from Magill University in Montreal he earned his undergrade in Univ of Chicago and his MA at Ottawa Univ, he told me that you don't get any more Americanized then Fox news. Fox news he told me is a joke, its so pro US. Now I consider him an excellent cause 1) he's a Political Phd and has an informed opinion and 2) he now works for the US foreign service. For an American to come out and tell me that Fox is the pinicale of what it is to be Americanized, speaks for itself.


Ok first this is not about what you or others think about foxnews. Again people bash fox news as there are indeed others that bash the cbc. Every one has a bais be it on the right or on the left.

The point is again that Canadians are not given the choice to watch or not watch. That is censorship (although I accept you point that perhaps fox news hasn’t applied, I havent found any proof of that (I admit I didn’t do much research), but still even if they haven’t, something smells not right))

In fact in the U.S. fox does in a way balance out a lot of the left wing media such as CNN and others. Where is that balance in Canada?!? You only get one view and that is the left view (cbc,cnn,ctv[which gets a lot of their reporting from the left bbc] etc…)

Now what I brought down on the bottom is from a site that I found after a quick search, I do not read this site generally nor do I endorse everything that was said in this article but I thought that it has revalence here.

A couple of months ago, columnist Doug Patton penned an article titled, “If You Like Canada, You’ll Love Howard Dean.” His point was that the far left Democratic Presidential candidate’s collectivist leanings on issues such as healthcare and taxes bear a strong resemblance to the near-socialist government setup in nearby Canada. Indeed, Dean’s surprising popularity is a good indicator of the trend amongst many left-libs in the U.S. to openly envy, admire, and aspire to Canada’s big government, model with its extensive social safety net and universal health care system. They marvel at Canada where people are free and taken care of.

Well, as a born and raised Canadian who has returned to her native land after a decade in the States, I’m here to pose an important question to these liberal Democrats: How free can a people be if they’re not allowed to choose what they watch on TV?

You see, what Canadians really want to watch is American television. The professors and stuffed shirts who make up Canada’s cultural elite do not like to admit this fact (CBC-loving Canadian nationalists will be the last people on the planet to notice that every remotely amusing Canadian ends up in Hollywood), but it’s true. Canadians thirst for timely episodes of Ozzie cursing a blue streak on “The Osbournes.” They crave the ability to flip on ESPN and catch a ballgame no one else is carrying. They long for the novel pleasure of watching current events discussed by right-wing pundits on a conservative-slanted network like Fox News. (Well, okay, maybe that last one applies mostly to members of my immediate family, but you get the picture.) Yet, in all of these cases, Canadian viewers are denied.

Why? It all boils down to the disturbingly powerful Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC), a quasi government agency that regulates what can be shown on Canadian airwaves and decides which TV channels Canadians may access.

The CRTC has decided, in its infinite cultural wisdom, that American stations such as HBO and MTV are simply not healthy for Canadians because they would steal viewers away from Canadian television offerings. Music videos? There’s no excuse for a healthy Canadian teenage girl drooling over imperialist MTV VJ Carson Daly when she could just as easily be drooling over an equally young, attractive, vacuous Canadian VJ on Canada’s Much Music network. Funny stuff? The CRTC is not going to let Canadians watch America’s Comedy Central because they’d probably realize what absolute crud is shown on the Canadian Comedy Network (man cannot live by SCTV reruns alone) and they’d never tune in again.

It’s not that the CRTC is opposed to everything foreign, of course. The Commission is currently considering an application by Canadian cable companies to add Arabic language news network al-Jazeera to the selection of television channels available for Canadian consumption. It’s just the American stuff the cultural puritans at the CRTC can’t stomach.


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shalom :D

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Lil do you know idfm203, I can get hbo and mtv, its just not worth the extra price on my cable bill. ;)

[IDFM203]

Lil do you know idfm203, I can get hbo and mtv, its just not worth the extra price on my cable bill. ;)I want to clarify your statement.....on cable, not satellite, you can get HB0 and MTV?!? :roll: are you living in Canada?!? :roll: do you have a Canadian cable company?!? :roll:

Shalom :D