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He219

11-19-2003, 10:33 PM

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LONDON Nov. 19— Claiming an astonishing security breach at Buckingham Palace, a British newspaper (http://wn.com/link/nph-link.cgi?worldphotos/indexsearchvera.txt&24428870&http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews%2Ego%2Ecom%2Fwire%2FWorld%2Fap20031119%5F508%2Ehtml) said Wednesday one of its reporters using a fake reference got a job on the royal staff and was even assigned to serve members of President Bush's party(White House)

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That's some firepower!

Transcript of remarks (http://cgi.wn.com/?action=display&article=24432212&template=worldphotos/viewphoto.txt&index=recent) by US President George Bush at Whitehall Palace, London. The President: Thank you very much. Secretary Straw and Secretary Hoon; Admiral Cobbald and Dr. Chipman; distinguished guests: I want to thank you for your very kind welcome that you´ve given to me and to Laura. (Ian Waldie/***** Images)

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Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam (Nov. 19, 2003) -- USS Vandegrift (FFG 48) arrives in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, for a scheduled port visit. The port call will provide the crew with an opportunity for sightseeing and cultural exchanges. This visit marks the first U.S. Navy ship visit to Vietnam in 30 years, since 1973. It symbolizes the normalization of relations between the two nations. Vandegrift is an Oliver Hazard Perry Class guided missile frigate and is a part of the USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) Carrier Strike Group, forward deployed to Yokosuka, Japan. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 3rd Class Gary B. Granger. (RELEASED)

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Naval Air Station (NAS) Pensacola, Fla. (Nov 8, 2003) --The U.S. Navy Flight Demonstration Team, the "Blue Angels" perform in the final show of the 2003 season at Sherman Field onboard Naval Air Station (NAS) Pensacola, Fla. Approximately 100,000 spectators enjoyed the aerial demonstration of Naval air power. U.S. Navy Photo by Chief Photographer's Mate Chris Desmond. (RELEASED)

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Aboard USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67) Nov. 17, 2003 -- An S-3B Viking assigned to the “Checkmates” of Sea Control Squadron Two Two (VS-22) lands on the flight deck aboard USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67). The S-3B was the first trap aboard the Kennedy since her 300 million dollar Extended Selected Restricted Availability period. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 3rd Class Joshua Karsten. (RELEASED)

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KIRKUK AIR BASE, Iraq -- Staff Sgt. Mike Pilkington marshals an A-10 Thunderbolt II for preflight inspection before the 303rd Expeditionary Fighter Squadron's final mission here supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. During the unit's eight-month deployment, squadron pilots flew 1,164 combat sorties and 3,360 flying hours without combat damage. Squadron airmen also helped establish two bases in Iraq. The reservists left Nov. 18 for Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo., where they will rejoin other airmen of the 442nd Fighter Wing. Pilkington is assigned to the 303rd EFS. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Jeffrey Williams)

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AL HAWIJAH, Iraq -- Staff Sgt. Mitchell Yang and Senior Airman Josh Gianni search for a strategic target here Nov. 18 hours before it was leveled by an air strike during Operation Ivy Cyclone. The operation is designed to root out and crush insurgents in Iraq. The airmen are tactical air controllers from U.S. European Command's 4th Air Support Operations Group. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jeffrey A. Wolfe)

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Soldiers assigned to Scout Platoon, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 36th Infantry Regiment, 1st Armored Division, wait to begin a cordon and search of a Baghdad area hostile to coalition forces on Sunday. Photo by Sgt. Mark Bell / 372nd Mobile Public Affairs Detachment

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Sgt. Josh Bayles, 24, from Grand Rapids, Mich., Bravo Section sergeant, Scout Platoon, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 36th Infantry Regiment, 1st Armored Division, inspects a squad weapon before a cordon and search of a Baghdad area hostile to coalition forces on Sunday. Photo by Sgt. Mark Bell / 372nd Mobile Public Affairs Detachment

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During Operation Mountain Resolve, civil affairs was able to help lighten the load of 10th Mtn. Div. soldiers by acquiring donkeys from a nearby village. Photo by U.S. Army Sgt. Greg Heath / 4th Public Affairs Detachment

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HOWITZER WATCH — A U.S. soldier from 3rd Battalion, 29th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, from Fort Carson, CO. monitors the area atop an M109 A6 Howitzer (Paladin), Nov. 7, 2003 at a fire base near Ad Dhuloiya, Iraq. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Jack Morse

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A member of the quick reaction force (QRF) from Battalion Landing Team 1st Bn., 6th Marines, the ground combat element of the 22d Marine Expeditionary Unit, surrounds the perimeter of a precision raid in Rock Hill, S.C. during the MEU's Training in an Urban Environment Exercise (TRUEX).

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With the Capitol behind them, B Company shows their unit pride by holding the company guidon high in the air as they begin the Marine Barracks motivational run.

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Staff Sgt. Tonya M. Longbine, U.S. Marine Corps Forces Pacific G-1, security branch staff noncommissioned officer in charge, attributes her work ethic to the way she was raised. Her proffessional demeanor and leadership helped her receive an advanced promotion to staff sergeant.

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Italian Carabinieri officers search an Iraqi house after they came under fire during a night patrol in the Southern Iraqi town of Nasiriyah, early Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Lt. Col. Allen B. West, is seen in a military court, in Tikrit, Iraq, Wednesday, Nov. 19, 2003. In an emotional testimony, the American lieutenant colonel acknowledged Wednesday he threatened to shoot an Iraqi detainee to extract information about a planned attack. Aside from firing his pistol near the detainee, West is also accused of punching the prisoner during interrogation on Aug. 20 in Taji. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

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Army Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Schoomaker appears before the Senate Armed Services Committee (news - web sites) on Capitol Hill Wednesday, Nov. 19, 2003, to discuss current Army issues, including the lack of protective armor for personnel and equipment serving in Iraq (news - web sites). (AP Photo/Dennis Cook)

Seoulstriker

11-19-2003, 10:35 PM

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bush's war killed 650 animals at baghdad zoo????????

:lol:

96B

11-19-2003, 10:41 PM

I find it humerous that the Secret Service was being criticized by many including people on this board for wanting extra security and look what happens. An irony to this is that the newspaper the journalist belonged to was noted for being amongst the critics of the Secret Services' security complaints...

Seoulstriker

11-19-2003, 10:42 PM

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Staff Sgt. Tonya M. Longbine, U.S. Marine Corps Forces Pacific G-1, security branch staff noncommissioned officer in charge, attributes her work ethic to the way she was raised. Her proffessional demeanor and leadership helped her receive an advanced promotion to staff sergeant.

1) i know why she was 'promoted'. :D
2) sign me up for the marine corps!!! :D

ogukuo72

11-19-2003, 10:49 PM

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A very interesting picture. You don't see a picture of a G3K actually being used very often. This one has even a bipod mounted. The only other picture of a G3K being used was in www.hkpro.com, that that was even more interesting as it had a PSG-1 adjustable buttstock and telescopic sight.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the police officers deployed are actually SAS or SBS members.

Ratamacue

11-19-2003, 10:53 PM

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To any of the Marines here, what exactly is the Battalion Landing Team? Does each regiment have a battalion designated as BLT? Is there any additional training required? Just curious.

He219

11-20-2003, 05:01 AM

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Talon Vision - CROW VALLEY, Luzon, Philippines--1st Sgt. Ron ****enson, company first sergeant, Light Armored Reconnaissance Company, Combat Assault Battalion, explains the procedures of a shoulder-fired anti-armor weapon to a Philippine Marine scout Oct. 5 at Crow Valley, Republic of the Philippines while supporting Exercise Talon Vision Fiscal Year 2004. Talon Vision '04 is a bilateral training exercise designed to improve and maintain the interoperability, combat readiness and professional relationships between the U.S. and Philippine Armed Forces.

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Talon Vision - CROW VALLEY, Luzon, Philippines--Philippine Marines and soldiers intently watch as a class is conducted on the proper procedures of anti-armor weapons during bilateral training between the Philippine servicemen and the U.S. Marines of Light Armored Reconnaissance Company, Combat Assault Battalion Oct. 5 at Crow Valley, Republic of the Philippines during Exercise Talon Vision (Fiscal Year) 2004. Exercise Talon Vision is bilateral training exercise designed to improve and maintain the interoperability, combat readiness and professional relationship between the U.S. and Philippine Armed Forces.

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Talon Vision - CLARK AIR FIELD, Philippines--Capt. Rudolfo Hernandez conducted flight procedure training with a class of Philippine airmen here Nov. 4. The series of classes covered flying through terrain, aircraft mishap investigations and shipboard operations as part of the U.S./Philippines Armed Forces cross training throughout Exercise Talon Vision Fiscal Year 2004. Exercise Talon Vision ?04 is a bilateral training exercise designed to improve and maintain the interoperability, combat readiness, and enhance professional relationships between the U.S. and Philippine Armed Forces.

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Talon Vision - CROW VALLEY, Philippines--1st Lt. Alex Howard, platoon commander, Light Armored Reconnaissance Company, Combat Assault Battalion, communicates with the Philippine scout team in the rear of the LAV while conducting a bilateral live-fire with Philippine Marine and Army LAV platoons Oct. 5 at Crow Valley, Republic of the Philippines during Exercise Talon Vision '04. Exercise Talon Vision is bilateral training exercise designed to improve and maintain the interoperability, combat readiness and professional relationship between the U.S. and Philippine Armed Forces.

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Kabul K-9 U.S. EMBASSY KABUL AFGHANISTAN -- Lance Cpl. Chris James, Marine Corps Military Working Dog Handler, points to the area he wants his partner, Tako, 6-year-old Belgium Malenois and bomb detection Military Working Dog, to sniff here recently. James and Tako are one of two MWD teams assigned to Task Force Kabul who search vehicles entering the embassy compound for possible explosive devices. The K9 unit here is comprised of two MWD handlers and two MWDs from Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, Calif.

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A soldier assigned to Scout Platoon, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 36th Infantry Regiment, 1st Armored Division, keeps a close eye on his surroundings while moving to the cordon and search mission of a Baghdad area hostile to coalition forces on Sunday. Photo by Sgt. Mark Bell / 372nd Mobile Public Affairs Detachment

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The architects (http://wn.com/link/nph-link.cgi?worldphotos/viewphoto.txt&24444413&http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eguardian%2Eco%2Euk%2Finternational%2Fstory%2F0%2C3604%2C1088816%2C00%2Ehtml) of a groundbreaking peace initiative, denounced by Ariel Sharon as akin to treason, are distributing copies of the document to every Israeli home this week in an attempt to exploit eroding public confidence in the government and to force negotiations with the Palestinians. (David Silverman/***** Images)

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Worn out by international isolation and economic deprivation, 75% of Turkish Cypriots, according to polls, want a settlement before the Greek-run south joins the EU next May. Negotiations, so far, have floundered on Mr Denktash's insistence that his republic first gets international recognition. Mass discontent, mirrored in huge demonstrations earlier this year, is believed to have prompted the leader to open the barricades (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1088801,00.html).

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A French soldier carries a wreath for slain United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR worker Bettina Goislard before her burial at the British cemetery in Kabul, Afghanistan, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. Goislard, 29 was shot in broad daylight as she traveled through a bazaar in central Afghanistan last weekend. The killing has led to a hurried evacuation of UNHCR foreign staffers from the volatile south and east of the country and the suspension of all aid to Afghan refugees trying to returnto their country from Pakistan. (AP Photo/Aijaz Rahi)

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A French soldier yawns as they stand guard outside the British cemetery before the burial of slain United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR worker Bettina Goislard of France in Kabul, Afghanistan, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. Goislard, 29 was shot in broad daylight as she traveled through a bazaar in central Afghanistan last weekend. The killing has led to a hurried evacuation of UNHCR foreign staffers from the volatile south and east of the country and the suspension of all aid to Afghan refugees trying to return to their country from Pakistan. (AP Photo/Aijaz Rahi)

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Seaman Antonio Pagoaga, right, from El Paso, Texas, and Kevin Reyes, center, from Miami, Fla, hand out toys to Vietnamese children at the Tam Binh Orphanage in Ho Chi Minh City (formerly Saigon) Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. American sailors from the USS Vandegrift, which became the first US. Navy ship to dock in Ho Chi Minh City since the end of the Vietnam War, visited an orphanage and gave out sweets and toys to the children. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel)

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Seaman Antonio Pagoaga from El Paso, Texas, greets Vietnamese children at the Tam Binh Orphanage in Ho Chi Minh City (formerly Saigon) Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. American sailors from the USS Vandegrift, which became the first US. Navy ship to dock in Ho Chi Minh City since the end of the Vietnam War, visited an orphanage and gave out sweets and toys to the children. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel)

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British bomb disposal experts use a robot to disable an explosive charge found in one of the main squares of Basra. A British security guard was lightly wounded when a roadside bomb went off in the southern Iraqi city, according to a spokesman for the US-led coalition(AFP/Hani Al-Obeidi)

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Italian soldiers walk inside their base in Nasiriyah south of Baghdad. A suicide attack on an Italian police base in the city on November 12 killed 19 Italians and nine Iraqis in the worst attack yet on coalition forces(AFP/Karim Sahib)

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Romanian soldiers speak to an Iraqi civilian at a checkpoint close to a Dutch military base in Samawa south of Baghdad. The US-led coalition offered a bounty of up to 10 million dollars for Izzat Ibrahim and revealed two houses belonging to Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s longtime deputy were destroyed in overnight air raids(AFP/Karim Sahib)

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Romanian troops from the 151st Romanian Infantry take a break from their post in the village of Haji Lalay Kalacha, Afghanistan, to converse. The Romanian soldiers joined U.S. troops based at Kandahar Army Airfield during a team village mission in which members of psychological operations and civil affairs visited the village to evaluate needs and distrubute humanitarian assistance in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. U.S. Army photo by Pfc. Hugo A. Baray-Vasquez

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A Dutch soldier frisks an Iraqi civilian at a checkpoint outside the Dutch military base in Samawa southeast of Baghdad. President George W. Bush (news - web sites) defended the US-led war on Iraq (news - web sites) amid new violence and talk of UN involvement in stabilizing the country(AFP/Karim Sahib)

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Indian troops continue to battle two Islamic militants holed up near army headquarters in Kashmir (news - web sites)(AFP/Sajjad Hussain)

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Kashmiri people run for cover as an Indian army soldier fires during a gun battle in Shopiyan, 55 kilometers (34 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Sunday, Nov. 16, 2003. Indian soldiers killed five suspected rebels in a gun battle after they attacked an army patrol, killing an officer in an ambush in Indian controlled Kashmir (news - web sites), officials said. (AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan)

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11-20-2003, 06:04 AM

thanks for the awesome pics...keep it up :P

Stalky-Italy

11-20-2003, 06:35 AM

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Italian Carabinieri officers search an Iraqi house after they came under fire during a night patrol in the Southern Iraqi town of Nasiriyah, early Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

bad boyz!!!!

Gringo

11-20-2003, 06:52 AM

Steve Andrews

11-20-2003, 07:11 AM

I wouldn't fukk with them at the moment...I should imagine that they are pretty pissed off....

Vance

11-20-2003, 07:52 AM

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''Say again Red 1....open fire on the woman?''

Uncle Chô

11-20-2003, 08:19 AM

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:cantbeli: Did you notice the fur coat ?? And she is accusing GWB for killing animals in a zoo ???

Some people are really nutcase :|

Haiw

11-20-2003, 08:40 AM

if you really believe that's real fur you're propably the most stupid frenchman in history

Seoulstriker

11-20-2003, 09:54 AM

if you really believe that's real fur you're propably the most stupid frenchman in history

what material is it?

Haiw

11-20-2003, 09:57 AM

propably something fake/synthetic...anyway, just look at the woman; does she look like she can afford fur? no way...besides it doesnt even look like real fur..

Seoulstriker

11-20-2003, 10:01 AM

propably something fake/synthetic...anyway, just look at the woman; does she look like she can afford fur? no way...besides it doesnt even look like real fur..

i think i've felt this material before. it's faux fur.

Uncle Chô

11-20-2003, 11:21 AM

if you really believe that's real fur you're propably the most stupid frenchman in history

:cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:

1- where is your sense of humor -if any ?

2- what does France have do to with the subject ?

I wonder who is the most stupid or to be precised the most narrow-minded person ?

You guys on this forum really are absolutely hopeless...

:roll:

Lancer

11-20-2003, 12:24 PM

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the police officers deployed are actually SAS or SBS members.

We have used the G3K for sometime now. The officer is from SO19.

Gringo

11-20-2003, 12:35 PM

It looks like there's also a bipod on that G3K, perhaps doubles as a marksmen (not sniper).

Sabre

11-20-2003, 01:10 PM

Christos!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not a G36. It's an HK G3KA4

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This is a G36K

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This is an HK 53

http://world.guns.ru/assault/hk53a3.jpg

I know the HK 53 doesn't feature in this argument, but the security forces used them in NI, and so if there were to be a military presence ( ;) ) then they might use it.

However, there are G36 issued to police. I saw a picture in the Telegraph today showing two policemen on the Thames with G36k.

budanski

11-20-2003, 02:20 PM

He219

11-20-2003, 03:14 PM

:lol:

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467194

A soldier with the 82nd Airborne Division gives a high-five to an Iraqi boy at a coaltion checkpoint in Fallujah, 65 km west of Baghdad, Thursday, Nov 20, 2003. Tension remains high in this Iraqi town as Fallujah has been the most dangerous place for U.S. troops since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime in April. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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U.S. soldiers with the 82nd Airborne Division patrol the outskirts of Fallujah, 65 kilometers west of Baghdad, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. Tension remains high in this Iraqi town as Fallujah has been the most dangerous place for U.S. troops since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime in April. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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An Iraqi man is detained by a U.S. soldier with the 82nd Airborne Division at a coaltion checkpoint in Fallujah, a deeply anti-American city west of Baghdad, Thursday, Nov 20, 2003. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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Soldiers from the 1-22 Fourth Infantry Division inspect home of Saddam Hussein's first wife Sajida Talfah near Tikrit on Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. In the first days of the invasions many of the homes used by Saddam Hussein and his family were targeted by missiles. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

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Russian weapons designer Maj. Gen. Mikail Kalashnikov, 84, shows a AK-47 at the opening of an exhibition of his rifles at the Army Museum in Delft, The Netherlands, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. (AP Photo/Bas Czerwinski) .

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Italian Army Cpt Stefano Venuti of the 3th Combat Engineer Regiment holds machine gun cartridges inside a former Iraqi Army ammunition bunker in the Southern Iraqi town of Talill, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. The army is in charge of some 140 bunkers in which the former Iraqi army stored some 590,000 pieces of ammunitions. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Italian Army Cpt Stefano Venuti of the 3rd Combat Engineer Regiment aims a flash light to tank ammunitions inside a former Iraqi Army ammunition bunker in the southern Iraqi town of Talill, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. The army is in charge of some 140 bunkers in which the former army stored some 590,000 pieces of ammunitions. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Italian soldiers of the 3rd Combat Engineer Regiment detonate former Iraqi Army ammunitions in an area near the southern Iraqi town of Talill, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. The army are gradually detonating some 590,000 pieces of ammunitions stored in some 140 bunkers of the former regime. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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Members of the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry, secure the area around a building in Al Hawijah before an air strike, Nov. 18, 2003. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jeffrey A. Wolfe

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U.S. Army Sgt. Joseph Pinkowski of the 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry, keeps a vigilant eye while his team-mates clear the area around a strategic target in Al Hawijah hours before it will be leveled by an air strike as part of Operation Ivy Cyclone, a combined-arms operation designed to root out and crush insurgents in Iraq, during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Nov. 18, 2003. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jeffrey A. Wolfe

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Soldiers with 1st Battalion, 12th Infantry Division, clear the area around a strategic target in Al Hawijah, Iraq, before an air strike destroys the building, Nov. 18, 2003. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jeffrey A. Wolfe

http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/photoarchive/LoRes/%212003/112003/KA2003-A434D.jpg

The Minister of National Defence, the Honourable John McCallum, greets members of the Third Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group (3 RCR BG), prior to departing on a routine patrol in Kabul, Afghanistan.
Minister McCallum is visiting Kabul to speak with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and to meet with Canadian troops at Camp Julien to get a first-hand account of the work they are doing.

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CROW VALLEY, Philippines--A Philippine Army scout fire team returns to a Light Armored Vehicle after conducting fire team live-fire rushes with the Marines of Combat Assault Battalion, Nov. 5 at Crow Valley, Republic of the Philippines while supporting Exercise Talon Vision '04. Talon Vision '04 is a bilateral training exercise designed to improve and maintain the interoperability, combat readiness and professional relationships between the U.S. and Philippine Armed Forces.

carpandean

11-20-2003, 03:14 PM

Christos!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not a G36. It's an HK G3KA4
Who said anyting about it being a G36?

A very interesting picture. You don't see a picture of a G3K actually being used very often. This one has even a bipod mounted. The only other picture of a G3K being used was in www.hkpro.com, that that was even more interesting as it had a PSG-1 adjustable buttstock and telescopic sight.

We have used the G3K for sometime now. The officer is from SO19.
Seems to me, that everyone said G3K, not G36K. The A4 in G3KA4 is just the configuration (trigger group, stock, etc.), but otherwise it is a G3K varient or more broadly put, it is a G3 varient.

usa320

11-20-2003, 03:25 PM

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2003/11/19/uploaded-39181_large.jpg

So the fat old bitch doesnt give two ****s about the people saddam tortured to death or the soldiers on both sides that died, but shes mad because a couple animals got offed?

rofl

I say show her how much animals love her by putting her in a lion cage with a lion family.

rofl

Seoulstriker

11-20-2003, 03:27 PM

I say show her how much animals love her by putting her in a lion cage with a lion family.

rofl

which is what Uday has done to many people. :(

usa320

11-20-2003, 03:28 PM

[kl9o

admar2

11-20-2003, 04:47 PM

Haiw

11-20-2003, 06:20 PM

damn...guess i've been added to the deathlist of anti-frenchies....and i aint even anti-france... hot damn :roll:

jdbjdb

11-20-2003, 06:45 PM

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?
Does the Queen ever let Prince Phillip come out and play?

ßå$tÄ®Ð¢HÏ¿ð

11-21-2003, 04:30 AM

wow that comment came straight outta left field......

jdbjdb

11-21-2003, 05:09 AM

That picture of the Queen standing between President Bush and Laura, why wasn't Prince Phillip in the picture?

Seraphim

11-21-2003, 06:48 AM

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Two cars burn after a bomb attack in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, November 20, 2003. Three people were killed and six were wounded in a bomb attack outside the offices of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan Party, whose leader is currently head of Iraq (news - web sites)'s U.S.-appointed Governing Council. (Anatolian via *******)

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A wounded Iraqi boy stands inside his house which was damaged in a car bomb blast which killed seven people in Ramadi, west of Baghdad November 20, 2003. The car bomb blast struck the offices of a U.S.-appointed local council in a string of attacks in the flashpoint town, witnesses said. (Ali Jasim/*******)

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An unidentified soldier from the 1-22 4th Infantry Dvision inspects the home of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s first wife Sajida Talfah, near Tikrit on Thursday Nov. 20, 2003. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

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U.S. Lt. Col. Steve Russell, commander of the US 1/22 Regiment of the 4th Infantry Division, inspects part of the missile that destroyed the favorite home of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s wife Sajida Talfah near Tikrit on Thursday, Nov. 20, 2003. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

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U.S. Army's soldier from 4th Infantry Division (Task Force Ironhorse), guards the home of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s first wife Sajida Talfah, near Tikrit Thursday Nov. 20, 2003. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

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A soldier from the 1-22 Fourth I.D. inspects the home of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s family, near Tikrit Thursday Nov. 20, 2003. In the first days of the invasion many of the homes used by Saddam Hussein and his family were targeted by missiles. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 07:50 AM

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031121/capt.xel10611210831.iraq_xel106.jpg

yummy SPR. :)

Argyll

11-21-2003, 08:54 AM

I thought the SPR had the M16 stock?
Looks more like a customized M4,also the SPR I don't think has the foresights like that?Also the SPR as far as I know is only used by SF,and is still under trial?

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 08:57 AM

I thought the SPR had the M16 stock?
Looks more like a customized M4,also the SPR I don't think has the foresights like that?Also the SPR as far as I know is only used by SF,and is still under trial?

the SPR is simply the replacement of the upper receiver with the new heavier barrel and scope mount. the M16's OR the M4's upper receiver can be replaced, so some have a collapsable stock and other don't.

i really don't know much about the SPR's use: deuterium says that he's never used one or know of any in the stock of his unit. :|

Argyll

11-21-2003, 09:02 AM

I got some really great pics of the SPR and they do not have the blade sights,I never seen the M4 stock either,you may be right but I don't think this is the SPR as we know it(AAO),it looks more like the SR15/25.
Alos note the heatshield and the surefire flashlight mounted under the RIS,these are not peculiar to the SPR

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/m4_carbine/m4a1spr.jpg

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 09:11 AM

yeah, that forward sight is strange.

here is the collapsable stock SPR:

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/m4_carbine/c_spr04.jpg

this is the so-called SPR/B:

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/m4_carbine/spr_b.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031121/capt.xel10611210831.iraq_xel106.jpg

this looks like a combination of all of these SPR models except for the forward sight. strange. :|

Argyll

11-21-2003, 09:16 AM

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 09:21 AM

:lol: We musta done the same thing!!

If you look at the barrel too on the original pic,it does not look like it's heavier either?
It would also be strange to see regular troops using the SPR,when as deuterium said they don't have any cosidering they're SF.
If this guys 4ID then It would make more sense to see him with the M24 would it not?
I'd love to see a better shot and get a look at the flash eliminator,that would clear it up I think?

the flash elimator part would be very helpful. woot

when i looked at the guy at first i thought he was SF, but the caption says 4th ID. that's really weird. why would a regular get the SPR? :|

Argyll

11-21-2003, 09:26 AM

We need to dig deeper mate!!?

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 09:29 AM

We need to dig deeper mate!!?

indeed! this is quite a puzzle. :|

Deuterium

11-21-2003, 09:52 AM

My guess its just a flattop with a scope. I have no idea if 4ID has been issued SPRs.

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 09:53 AM

My guess its just a flattop with a scope. I have no idea if 4ID has been issued SPRs.

woot woot

does that mean it is more accurate than a normal M16 though?

Deuterium

11-21-2003, 09:57 AM

In the sense of better optics yes.

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2003/11/20/uploaded-39247_large.jpg

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031121/capt.xel10611210831.iraq_xel106.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/m4_carbine/spr_b.jpg

Notice the front sight on the SPR[/img]

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 09:59 AM

i see. isn't that scope a little overkill if the accuracy of the bullet doesn't match the accuracy of the high-powered scope? i guess that's why he has a 30-round magazine. :D

Argyll

11-21-2003, 10:11 AM

Flat top as in bogstandard M4 ?

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 10:12 AM

Flat top as in bogstandard M4 ?

ooooh. that's a good question. the m4 doesn't come with such a long barrel and the m16 doesn't come with a collapsable stock. hmmmm... :|

Argyll

11-21-2003, 10:18 AM

Perhaps this is the heavier barreled M16A4,with the M4 stock?
Could be that it's the nearest they could get to the SPR?
I'm also sure that the M4 also has varying lengths of upper recievers from the short (11.75cm) for the CQBR,to the 16(?)cm standard.
Deut will know more about barrel lengths,to me it looks like a basic M4 with a really big scope...........rabbit hunting?

Seoulstriker

11-21-2003, 10:27 AM

Argyll

11-21-2003, 10:29 AM

Not 100% sure seoul,I'm sure I read somewhere that it did!

Maj C

11-21-2003, 11:36 AM

thatguy96

11-21-2003, 01:53 PM

I think a better explination for this lies in the fact that Iraq is becoming a more "prolonged" or "protracted" conflict, whatever you think about the politics of it. During any such operation where the soldiers are involved in constant combat of a sort that they and their equipment might not be entirely suited to, they make modifications to what they can. I'm sure armorers have been playing around with various parts and accessories for months now, with the weapons that were supposed to be issued before the invasion now reaching units. With the non-standard modifications to vehicles like HMMWVs, I would not find it surprising if soldiers were going to their unit armorers or to various logisitcs people and creating more apt weaponry from parts and other equipment available.

Seraphim

11-21-2003, 03:23 PM

I've seen some OIF briefs regarding putting the optics on m16's. They find that a good marksman can make hits out past 500 m with a standard m16a4 with the rifle combat optic - one report said a PFC made two 1300m kills with a standard M16 using an optic. What that means is that it's not necessary to have specialized M14's or similar weapons in the squad, you just need to add the RCOs/ACOG...

1300m with a .223? .308's even have great difficulty hitting distances accurately that far.
Very very very hard to believe...

did I say that its very hard to believe?

He219

11-21-2003, 03:33 PM

to free the oppressed

11-21-2003, 03:38 PM

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_031117-N-8704K-001.jpg

The USS John F. Kennedy, my Dads old ship.

Brandon

11-21-2003, 03:39 PM

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2003/11/19/uploaded-39181_large.jpg

''Say again Red 1....open fire on the woman?''

Looks like a "Iraq Loves US" logo on the top right of that gay-ass poster. Cant see it though :lol:

Seraphim

11-21-2003, 04:02 PM

Looks like a "Iraq Loves US" logo on the top right of that gay-ass poster. Cant see it though :lol:

I think its suppose to represent blood/oil.

Haiw

11-21-2003, 04:29 PM

about the 'spr-puzzle'; it doesnt look like a regular m4 barrel since it doesnt have the little cut in the barrel for the m203a1...2nd; does the m16a4 have a collapsible stock?
anyway, really quite a tuff nut :)

Argyll

11-21-2003, 04:32 PM

A standard optic being the Trijicon ACOG sight I'd guess?
I have my doubts about that too,that's more than double the effective range of the standard M16,1300 m's ,If this was also on a flat plain,the guy would have to aim some height to allow for the fall of the round,now I'm a bit off with my ballistics here ,as it's been a long time since I fired a Military Rifle,but I think that after distances of 600m the round drops quite a bit,and even using a heavier calibre round such as the 7.62mm(SLR),when we used a weapon in SF role(Sustained Fire)such as the GPMG the effective range was not as effective as that,it was used more as an area denial effect of fire,and the "beaten" zone of the GPMG at that distance was about 50m.
Now if he was firing into an elevated position again he'd have had to aim so high that the chances of hitting the target are also slim.There were reports from The Royal Marines,that 2 of their snipers aimed 50 m off to the flanks to hit a target at 900m,in the wind that day,and they were using the L96 Accuracy Intl.
I'd really like to hear more about these shots at 1300m,as I find it almost impossible to belive,not saying it can't be done,but 1300m using a standard optic..........very questionable?

fantassin

11-22-2003, 05:44 AM

I would not want to be the lawyer who would have to justify the use by a civilian police force of .308 Winchester rounds fired in a selective-fire weapon in a civilian environment. I thought the lesson had been learnt in NI....

Maj C

11-25-2003, 10:44 AM

my bust - the report said 1300 yards not meters - so that's about 1100 meters...still a long shot...it also says hits on a man sized target so probably not combat kills just shots on a target. In any case - it goes to show that putting optics on a as many standard M16's as possible is probably cheaper and more effective than buying one accurized M14 per squad.