Production german GTK / BOXER

[Frank the soldier]

Hello ,
who has information or pictures of the production of the German GTK / BOXER , the Krauss-Maffei-Wegmann company .
For time, the prototyp must be in fabrication.
Thanks

[hedgehog]

http://www.soldat-und-technik.de/04-2004/heer.htm

http://www.europaeische-sicherheit.de/Rel/2005_01/06_erbe/2005,01,06,02.html

http://www.bundeswehr.de/C1256EF4002AED30/Print/W269HEWT902INFODE


sorry, just did a quick google search

[Frank the soldier]

No picture from the Production-line at the KMWEG Munic or Kassel / germany ???

3 pices are building in a production-line .

[Frank the soldier]

http://data.primeportal.net/apc/staneke/fennek/Dsc01612.jpg

sorry, this is only a monocoque Fennek.
But it is also a Rheinmetall / KMWEG Product.

[Frank the soldier]

http://tanxheaven.com/ljs/storkpwvljs/03-Stork-PWV(Prototype)'The%20Boxer',Oirschot.JPG

The nederland-version GTK Boxer

[Frank the soldier]

Picture from the German Prototyp GTK-BOXER
The picture is shoot at WTD 41 in Trier,Germany (BWB )

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/GTK-BOXERErprobung2005Bild5.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/GTK-BOXERErprobung2005Bild6.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/GTK-BOXERErprobung2005Bild7.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/GTK-BOXERErprobung2005Bild2.jpg

[Vertigo]

http://www.directupload.net/images/050514/867nMWvF.jpg

http://www.directupload.net/images/050514/gHqOlFLX.jpg

http://www.directupload.net/images/050514/6i7mI3UD.jpg

http://www.directupload.net/images/050514/zCVgxInz.jpg

http://www.directupload.net/images/050514/YqafKJzN.jpg

http://img80.echo.cx/img80/3101/zeitplan1sb.th.jpg (http://img80.echo.cx/my.php?image=zeitplan1sb.jpg)

[Wodan]

http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_1.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_2.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_3.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_4.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_5.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_6.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_7.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_8.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_9.jpg
http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_10.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/BOXERPrototyp--05-2005.jpg

[Michael RVR]

Looks like something out of aliens, i like it :)

[big80a2]

http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_1.jpg

Disco mobiel ;)

[Navor]

Dunno know that we use M2 on ou Boxers,nice woot woot woot

[Wodan]

http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_1.jpg

Disco mobiel ;)

but we should erase the UK flag...

[wholagun]

Ich lebe es, aber ich wolle der AMV - naturlich!

[Ipkiss]

Impressive pictures!
This thing is so huge when you see it in real life, I love it!

[Frank the soldier]

a picture from the Nederlands Luchtmacht Dagen 28.05.2005 at Arnhem
(its my picture at the visit !!! )
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/LandmachtDagen2005Arnheim028.jpg

[Wodan]

a picture from the Nederlands Luchtmacht Dagen 28.05.2005 at Arnhem
(its my picture at the visit !!! )
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/LandmachtDagen2005Arnheim028.jpg

medical version?

[Frank the soldier]

Yes ,
the nederland-version (Ambulance)
Customer : Storck - Ned.

look to :
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/LandmachtDagen2005Arnheim027.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

This is a pic from the Drivers Place GTK/BOXER

It is a MFD (Multi Funktion Display ) at the Main -Informations Board




http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/FahrerplatzGTKBOXER-1.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

New Pictures from the Infantry Test-Area Hammelburg / Germany

German New Infantry-Vehicle GTK-BOXER
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/KopievonGTK-BOXERTestBild1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/GTK-BOXERTestBild3.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

The last Informations :

Germany : 125 Troop-Transporter
65 Führungsfahrzeuge
__________
190 Stück


Nederlands : 200 Stück
Configuration : Troop Transport
Medical Van
Tech / Repair Van

[oldsoak]

looks excellent - I wish we were still on board the programme. Iraq`would have been a good testing ground. It needs to look more Germanic though :P
It must look like a Tiger Tank on wheels :P

[Wodan]

Frank the soldier

the ones we already have?
the first batch?
the boxers we get at all?

@190

[Frank the soldier]

Answer to Wodan :
The German Army Tested 5 vehicles at the WTD at Trier .

The german army will because the latest information :
125 Troop transporter (2008-2010 )
65 Chief Commander vehicles
and in planing ca. 25 Medical Vehicles.

The Nederland landmacht will became :
200 vehicles include Medical-version

[Frank the soldier]

The GTK-BOXER in a testing-Hall :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/boxerCap02.jpg

and without the Missions-Modul :
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/boxerProg04.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

The GTK-BOXER by a troop-presentation in Hammelburg,Germany
look the site :

http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=2078181&r=threadview&a=1&t=2760654

[Vandervahn]

The GTK-BOXER by a troop-presentation in Hammelburg,Germany
look the site :

http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=2078181&r=threadview&a=1&t=2760654

Great pics, but the "XFOR" designation made of yellow tape is a bit creepy ;)

(I also think that the paint has a bit too many dents for my taste, considering it is such a new vehicle...)

[Frank the soldier]

new pics from the ARTEC , GTK-BOXER
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/GTK-BOXER2005Bild1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/GTK-BOXER2005Bild2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/GTK-BOXER2005Bild3.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

How many Test-vehicles are manufactory by the Rheinmetall(D) , Fokker (NL)and British ???

[Frank the soldier]

The German Parlament is take " green Light" for the Production GTK-Boxer .
The contract will closed at 19.12.2006 .

The german Army get 2008-2011 272 Vehicles :

72 GTK-Boxer Ambulance Version
65 GTK-Boxer Führungsfahrzeug-Version
135 GTK-BOXER Troop-Transport Version

The companys KMWEG and Rheinmetall produced the Vehicle.
Look :
http://www.rheinmetall.de/index.php?fid=1896&lang=2
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/boxerSupp01.jpg

[seventy6er]

Only 272? Must be only the 1st lot. I thought there were plans to procure around 1.000 Boxers?

[Vandervahn]

Only 272? Must be only the 1st lot. I thought there were plans to procure around 1.000 Boxers?

Naah, the program was downsized to 200 vehicles years ago.

BTW, those 72 ambulances are only an option. So basically its 200 Boxers (for now).

[seventy6er]

Insgesamt sind 529 BOXER für die Bw vorgesehen: 406 (Heer), 110 (ZSanDsTBw), 10 (SKB), 3 (Lw).
Im ersten Los, das am Mittwoch durch den Ausschuss ging, wurden für Heer und SKB 65 BOXER Führungsfahrzeug, 125 BOXER Gruppentransportfahrzeug und 10 Fahrschulmodelle bestellt, zusätzlich dazu 72 schwere geschützte Sanitätsfahrzeuge.
Die BOXER sollen grob gerechnet im Verhältnis 50:50 mit GMW bzw. M2 auf Waffenstation ausgerüstet werden. Weitere Versionen, außer den genannten, sind durch die Modulbauweise denkbar, z.B. Fla.

Quelle: Steht fast alles im Antrag der BReg.

The Bundeswehr might receive 529 Boxers: 406 for the Army, 110 for the Central Medical Service, 10 for the "Streitkräftebasis" (Armed Forces Basis), 3 for the Luftwaffe.

[zulu261]

The Bundeswehr might receive 529 Boxers: 406 for the Army, 110 for the Central Medical Service, 10 for the "Streitkräftebasis" (Armed Forces Basis), 3 for the Luftwaffe.

Is this pre transformation or past transformation?

They downsized nearly everything. I think the Boxer is more important than the PzH2000...

btw. The Turks copied it, naming their "Boxer" Yavuz, company is Otokar.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/92/yavuz02dd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

"Their design" hahaha

[Vandervahn]

The Bundeswehr might receive 529 Boxers: 406 for the Army, 110 for the Central Medical Service, 10 for the "Streitkräftebasis" (Armed Forces Basis), 3 for the Luftwaffe.

Yup, but the recent approval was only for the 200+72 vehicles. Says so on the KMWeg, Rheinmetall and BMVG sites. Who knows wether they´ll buy more when the Fuchs´ tanks become completely obsolete (somewhere from 2015 onwards).

Anyway, at least they´re starting production...

[muttbutt]

Is this pre transformation or past transformation?

They downsized nearly everything. I think the Boxer is more important than the PzH2000...

btw. The Turks copied it, naming their "Boxer" Yavuz, company is Otokar.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/92/yavuz02dd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

"Their design" hahaha
they didn't "copy" it, the yavuz is the Turkish development of the Singapore Terrex AV-81, which ST of Singapore designed with Timoney enginerring of Ireland, nothing got to do with Boxer at all


Boxer is huge btw, saw a photoof a crewman in it, he looked like a child:|

[muttbutt]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1212/boxeraq4.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boxeraq4.jpg)

look at the size of the crewman compared to the vehicle

[exarmyguard]

THats a big SOB. Looks like its modular in design. Can interchange rear half of the body.

[Vandervahn]

THats a big SOB.

Indeed. Germans/Dutch are gonna win the ***** envy competitions on multinational missions for YEARS to come ;)

http://www.artec-boxer.com/images/highlight_3.jpg
(Stryker comparison pics: http://www.eis.army.mil/dcats/images/stryker.jpg, https://hn.afnews.af.mil/PFPhotos/Stryker/S_003.jpg )


http://gaf.zeelandnet.nl/yp408/images/boxer/MRAV_Boxer02.jpg
(Stryker comparison pic: http://www.lakecityjournal.com/pics/stryker.jpg )

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/KopievonGTK-BOXERTestBild1.jpg
(Picture stolen from member "Frank the Soldier")
Stryker comparison pic: http://www.armymedicine.army.mil/news/photos/fullsize/14_stryker.jpg



Looks like its modular in design. Can interchange rear half of the body.
Some of the few "naked" pitures:
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/682/boxerprog047bt.jpg
http://img325.imageshack.us/img325/4639/boxer14nq.jpg
(the man in the blue overall indicates that the cabin may offer near full standing height for the passengers. The Medical module has an even higher roof for full standing height.

[AK74]

nice new ..APC.

[solidarnosc]

It's humongous.

[Frank the soldier]

The contenders in the latest stage of the Army's programme for a new force of battlefield armoured vehicles - the Future Rapid Effect System (FRES) - were unveiled by Minister of State for Defence Equipment and Support Lord Drayson today, Tuesday 31 July 2007
The vehicles - Boxer, Piranha and VBCI - were put through their paces at the Bovington training area as part of trials for a FRES Utility Vehicle Variant. The winning design will be developed further to meet the Army's future needs.

The Utility Vehicle design competition is a key element of the FRES acquisition strategy announced in November 2006. The FRES programme will equip the UK Armed Forces with over 3,000 new medium weight armoured vehicles.

This includes reconnaissance, direct fire, and manoeuvre support vehicles. They will provide high levels of protection and will be air-transportable, allowing troops to deploy rapidly around the globe.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/FRESProgrammtestpic001.jpg

Pics : www.mod.uk

[Ubar]

I like the size difference between the boxer and wiesel :D

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j310/Jagganaut/SIMG0013.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

The Nederland GTK Version ( Führungsfahrzeug)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/LandmachtDagen2006Havelte056.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/LandmachtDagen2006Havelte054.jpg

With friendly copyright from PzBrig15

[Frank the soldier]

More Pictures GTK-Boxer Testing -vehicles.
These GTK with the little turret (round weapon-ring) was one of
the british Experimental vehicle 2003 . Now, the vehicle is at
the German testing area ( WTD )

all pictures with friendly copyright : PzBrig15
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/WTS2006Koblenz-2041.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/WTS2006Koblenz-2047.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/WTS2006Koblenz-2049.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/WTS2006Koblenz-2050.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/Eurocopter/WTS2006Koblenz-2051.jpg

[Mackie]

Boxer APC for Spain?


KMW manufactures Spain’s Leopard 2E tanks, in partnership with General Dynamics Santa Barbara Sistemas. Its Dingo 2 did not win the competition, placing 3rd in evaluations.

Finally, the third phase will induct a new generation of wheeled armored personnel carriers into Spain’s army. El Pais’ reporteports specifies “en principio, en version ocho por ocho ruedas- dotados de modulos intercambiables, de forma que la misma plataforma pueda reconvertirse en solo una hora en un vehiculo de transporte de tropas, centro de mando o ambulancia.” (translated: “in principle, an 8×8 wheel vehicle equipped with interchangeable modules, so that the same platform can be converted in just one hour in a vehicle transporting troops, command center or ambulance.”)

If El Pais is correct, some form of local design and production is also a possibility; indeed, the reality of weapons sales on this level is that some form of local offsets and cooperation are a must. Strong wheeled APC candidates include the ARTEC (Stork/KMW) consortium’s modular Boxer MRAV, and GD MOWAG’s Piranha IV-V, due to these firm’s strong relationships and production arrangements in Spain. Other possibilities include GD Steyr’s Pandur II, Nexter’s VBCI, and Patria’s AMV.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/mraps-and-new-wheeled-apcs-for-spain-04144/

[Mackie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WOkgLF1R3s

Videos about the Boxer are rare. But this one is really nice.

[Cava]

Dutch boxer

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3032/05gu1.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7977/06km7.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7213/07zj5.jpg

[Frank the soldier]

One of the Nederland Prototype with Führungsfahrzeug :
new is the Cable-cutter at the front .

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f56/Eurocopter-2008/Landmachtdagen2009Teil2021.jpg

[shuredgefan]

A vehicle that humongous should have some kind of light cannon, 25 or 30mm at least.

It's not like they were trying to design something to squeeze into a C-130 as we attempted with the Stryker.

The A400M has a cargo bay height of 3.85m so that wasn't the limiting factor.

[RS_Leo1A5]

A vehicle that humongous should have some kind of light cannon, 25 or 30mm at least.This is an armored transport, not a wheeled IFV. It is in no way meant for offensive use.

[Mackie]

And if they need some firepower --> RMK30

[Praet]

And if they need some firepower --> RMK30
What's with people and their love for the RMK30 in ground combat?
It's inherent ability to cause severe ground fog and by nature less efficient usage of the propellant compared to conventional weapons pretty much restricts its usefulness to applications where reduced weight and low recoil are the predominant requirements - for example in light or unmanned ground vehicles or airborne platforms.

[JoaMei]

I agree to that Statement, there is no Problem with fitting a normal 30mm autocannon on the Boxer.

The RMK has potential in some special areas where its strenghts surpass its weaknesses. But its not generally superior.

[Mackie]

What's with people and their love for the RMK30 in ground combat?
It's inherent ability to cause severe ground fog and by nature less efficient usage of the propellant compared to conventional weapons pretty much restricts its usefulness to applications where reduced weight and low recoil are the predominant requirements - for example in light or unmanned ground vehicles or airborne platforms.

I am generally against super huge 30mm cannons which needs to be integrated in the Boxer modul. Not good for weight and not for blast protection.
Please post me a reliable source for problems with ground fog.
Main problem of the RMK30 seems to be costs.

[Mackie]

German troops testing Boxer APCs in Australia.


http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/meckie_m/GTKGMW.jpg

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/meckie_m/Bild061.jpg

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/meckie_m/BoxerinFahrt6.jpg

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/meckie_m/GTKGMW19.jpg

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/meckie_m/IMG_6186.jpg

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad315/meckie_m/Gruppenbild.jpg

[hedgehog]

not sure if this was posted, but the IFV version looks interesting

http://www.artec-boxer.com/fileadmin/documents/BOXER_IFV.pdf

http://www.artec-boxer.com/fileadmin/images/content/5_media/screen/BOXER_LANCE_1600x1200.jpg

[seventy6er]

Are there plans to develop/test a version with 105/120 mm cannon?