More Bombings!

[jdbjdb]

Baghdad Hotel hit :cantbeli:

[Mortimer]

go the war on terror!!!

its really working.........i didn't believe it at first but now Bush has sold it to me woot

Seriously......since the war on terror started there have been more terror attacks then in the last ten years.

[EvanL]

Not really buddy. Were just paying more attention to it. And as to the attacks in Iraq, they wouldnt be going on if there was no foreign troop presence there. The war is working. But were only seeing the tip of the iceberg, and thats why were gonna hafta work 3 times harder to achieve what we want.

[jdbjdb]

Don't blame President Bush, blame the muslim terrorist.

[Mortimer]

i am not just talking about Iraq.....Indonesia.........Turkey......Isreal.......blah blahblah....

its really ****ing stupid

like a school yard brawl......boys will never learn

[wholagun]

according to BBC right now (I don't have access to a TV in my dorm) but according to BBC online there are reports of two RPG's hitting.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/20/sprj.irq.main/index.html

Unfortuneatly I was right in another thread when I said that they were re-grouping. :(

[Jack Mehoff]

i am not just talking about Iraq.....Indonesia.........Turkey......Isreal.......blah blahblah....

its really f*** stupid

like a school yard brawl......boys will never learn

I have an awesome solution. How about give in demands to terrorists so next time if someone want their voice to be heard and all they have to do is blow up a church, a school, a building.

[jdbjdb]

That would be nice but one problem, even with our technology its still a difficult task to locate the terrorist, and sleeper cells, (damn racial profiling)

like a school yard brawl......boys will never learn

Its either step up to the challenge or die.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Not a lot of damage to the hotels mostly broken glass at least one person taken away with wounds, reports of Iraqi police arresting a man fleeing on a donkey cart.
Iraqi oil ministry also attcked and on fire.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Escaping on a donkey cart eh? Thats classic. rofl

[StarvingStudent47]

i am not just talking about Iraq.....Indonesia.........Turkey......Isreal.......blah blahblah....

its really f*** stupid

like a school yard brawl......boys will never learn

As for Israel, the Second Intifada started way before 9/11. It started before Bush was even elected President.

And as for al-Qaeda:
1993: First World Trade Center bombing.
1993: Evidence exists that al-Qaeda was involved in Somalia.
1996: Khobar towers bombed.
1998: US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania bombed.
1999: al-Qaeda plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport foiled.
2000: Attack on USS Cole.

I could do the same for Hezbollah, but I don't feel like looking up locations and dates right now. The point is: any insinuation that the world was relatively free of terrorism before Operation Enduring Freedom is both naive and wrong.

[Fioraon]

The hole we are diggin will some day be a water well. Many will drink from it.

[jdbjdb]

British anti-war protestors said Britain's support of the U.S. in Iraq motivated terror bombings on the British consulate in Turkey
Rubbish!

[Mortimer]

i am not just talking about Iraq.....Indonesia.........Turkey......Isreal.......blah blahblah....

its really f*** stupid

like a school yard brawl......boys will never learn

As for Israel, the Second Intifada started way before 9/11. It started before Bush was even elected President.

And as for al-Qaeda:
1993: First World Trade Center bombing.
1993: Evidence exists that al-Qaeda was involved in Somalia.
1996: Khobar towers bombed.
1998: US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania bombed.
1999: al-Qaeda plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport foiled.
2000: Attack on USS Cole.

I could do the same for Hezbollah, but I don't feel like looking up locations and dates right now. The point is: any insinuation that the world was relatively free of terrorism before Operation Enduring Freedom is both naive and wrong.

i didn't say that, i said that it hasn't done a single thing to stop terror...name one thing that has been accomplished by the war on terror (legally(under international law)) that justifies two invasions???

after two and a half years billions of dollars and over 50,000 deaths what does the Bush administration have to show? and read this carefully...that legally and morally justifies the events of the past two years....

Terror attacks have increased since the war on terror started that's a fact.

[Roger Rabbit]

Could you quote some statistics for those 50,000 deaths?

Think it was on jihadunspun forum with some guy who reckons at least 6000 americans have been killed in Iraq and the US Mil. is doing a cover up :cantbeli:

[aeternum]

The military engagements in Iraq and Afghanistan has only resulted in more terror than less. It became so easy for them to recruit more and more volunteers... Just look the arabian TV.. They showing 24/7 how badly the arabs are treated by the western, mainly the US... its like a huge brain-wash.

Fighting against terror is not mainly a military task, but a political. Its about winning their minds. So unless the western countries are able to convince them to substain from "terror as they only solution" we will fail. We need to give the people a future, something worth to live for. I mean look the suicide-bombers are willing to give up their lives, in hope to have a better "after-life". They are only focused on this. I say, give them a future in "this life" and we will win.

So its all about convincing and not about focing like the US is trying with their military right now.

[Mortimer]

Could you quote some statistics for those 50,000 deaths?

Think it was on jihadunspun forum with some guy who reckons at least 6000 americans have been killed in Iraq and the US Mil. is doing a cover up :cantbeli:

maybe i was exaggerating a bit but look at it this way.

3000 deaths 9/11
200 approx US military losses in afghanistan
10 to 20,000 Taliban and AQ KIA's.
<10,000 Afghan civilian deaths
up to 20,000 Iraqi fedayeen deaths
just about 500 US KIA's nearly 2000 wounded
"very" close to 10,000 iraqi civilian deaths.

my sources

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/12/1068329606778.html
http://www.mapw.org.au/iraq/2002/ippnwiraq/MedAct_report_Iraq_12_11.html
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/326/7382/220
www.iraqbodycount.net
www.iraqometer.com
http://www.mapw.org.au/iraq/2002/ippnwiraq/Medact_Iraq_report_final3.pdf

blah blah...look yourself its not that hard....


so???

why are we still being bombed

My mother was in Istanbul about 2 weeks ago and i would lay total blame on the US if she had been 'caught' up in a terror attack thanks to total luck she wasn't.

She also lives in Saudi Arabia and works in the Republican Guard hosipital a target for AQ. The US isn't telling us a lot about SA's involvement in 9/11 and therefore i would and do hold them responsible for the/any terror attacks in SA.

[Whistler]

Amen mortimer.

And yesterday I tripped over the cat and stubbed my toe. I would and do blame the US! Especially George Bush! Its all their fault!

Damn American Imprialists! :fork:

[Vance]

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/20/sprj.irq.main/index.html

Unfortuneatly I was right in another thread when I said that they were re-grouping. :(
One attack and you say they are re-grouping? Man, lighten up....

[Mortimer]

Amen mortimer.

And yesterday I tripped over the cat and stubbed my toe. I would and do blame the US! Especially George Bush! Its all their fault!

Damn American Imprialists! :fork:

he he.....what time is it over there? about 9?...time you went to school little boy

[Seraphim]

I stubbed my small toe the other day, man I thought I broked it, I was running to get the phone and stubbed it on a sofa...its all good now though.

[budanski]

after two and a half years billions of dollars and over 50,000 deaths what does the Bush administration have to show?

3000 deaths 9/11
Its typically that you would blame the deaths of 9/11 on Bush :roll:

The way I see it, the War on Terrorism has been a success. No major terrorist attack in the U.S. post 9/11. Al Qaeda is no longer "the base" driven the Taliban out of Afghanistan, and taken Saddam and his two biological weapons, Uday and Qusay, off the map and . . . . oh ! wait a second! We've taken the fight to them.

That is plenty to show for.

[Durandal]

i didn't say that, i said that it hasn't done a single thing to stop terror...name one thing that has been accomplished by the war on terror (legally(under international law)) that justifies two invasions???



Ummm who here thinks that Afghanistan was not a good move? Not only was it supported by the ENTIRE world...or at least the parts that matter...but it was done about a legally as you can.

I will name one thing that the war on terror has accomplished:

Terrorists are no longer running around the world and networking with impunity. The war is sucking up resources from small groups and individuals, both in man power and cash reserves that could have been spent on targets in other nations.

Like it or not that is an accomplishment...a solid one.

[Trigger]

Why are terrorist attacks up?
Desperate people will do desperate things when they sense their own demise is near...

Does the bull in the ring lay down and die after one, two, three stabs?
No. He keeps trying to gore the Matador until the end.

[budanski]

Yes, terrorist attacks are up... in Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Both countries who were distancing themselves from Bush's War on Terrorism. How'd they not see this coming by making themselves easier targets.

[jdbjdb]

Yes, terrorist attacks are up... in Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Both countries who were distancing themselves from Bush's War on Terrorism. How'd they not see this coming by making themselves easier targets.

The Royal family should be kicking themselves, they are the ones that created the militants in the kingdom, and now they want the royals out, but The United States will bail them out again, no worries

[SFontaine]

So Mortimer in your eyes what should Bush have done after 9/11. If you're so gifted and intelligent tell us all the RIGHT thing he should have done.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Well I think its great that Saudi Arabia realised that terrorism finally doesnt pay...

[jdbjdb]

Wahhab :petting:

[California Joe]

The sooner we blow up everyone with nukes the sooner our wives start having mutant children and the sooner Proffessor X starts the X Men. Let's hurry the hell up people. I'm hoping my kid has admantium bones.

[jdbjdb]

evil Iraqi's hurting poor innocent donkeys, what did the donkey do to Saddam and the baathist?

[jdbjdb]

Some English and some Turks and blaming The United States for the bombings in Turkey :cantbeli:

[Roger Rabbit]

You reckon you can post a link to that? I love reading some of the conspiracy ideas that come out. You gotta give them 10 out of 10 for imagination.

[budanski]

You reckon you can post a link to that? I love reading some of the conspiracy ideas that come out. You gotta give them 10 out of 10 for imagination.

Turks blame US policy for blasts (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/11/23/1069027399108.html)

[jdbjdb]

I would say cut Turkey's military aid, but that would be bad for both countries, same with Saudi Arabia, but why help Turkey when they wouldn't allow The United States military to use their country as a staging point to open up a northern front on Iraq?

[Roger Rabbit]

Ahh, i thought you meant that some Turks were saying the US carried out the bombings and then said it was Al Qyida or however they spell their name these days. If anyone is interested i can post the letters the Sun(right wing) and the Mirror (left wing) published showing peoples views on the bombings in Turkey and the protests in London.