Canada: now rural towns are targeted by alien migrants

[BigBaribal]

WINNIPEG - Members of Winnipeg's Sudanese community are considering moving out of the city to start a new life in rural Manitoba.

Madit Kuet said his family and a few others have their eye on Altona, a town of 3,060 located about 100 kilometres southwest of Winnipeg.

Kuet, who moved to Winnipeg seven years ago, said the biggest challenge has been keeping his children out of troubles that have hurt other young refugees.

He said he has seen young Sudanese get into fights at school, take or deal drugs, steal cars or become involved with gangs. Their marks at school are suffering and he fears their futures are in jeopardy.......


http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/03/17/sudanese-050317.html

[askDNA]

Sucks.

[Lurch]

who cares if immigrants move to rural cities? I welcome them. is there any point to this thread?

[pepunkie]

Does this involve space aliens?

[BigBaribal]

who cares if immigrants move to rural cities? I welcome them. is there any point to this thread?


A good post from this blog:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/003229.html



I am a transplanted Canadian living in the US. Formerly from Toronto, now in Atlanta, Georgia.

I saw your comments with respect to Toronto turning into a city of foreigners--something I experienced in the 1990's. In fact the municipality in which I lived (North York or Willowdale) was becoming so overwhelmingly Oriental, that Saturday mornings all one could see on streets was "Chinese family day" as hordes of Chinese families gathered at restaurants and spilled over onto sidewalks.

Now to be quite honest, I prefer the oriental culture to the minorities that are taking over the province of Quebec (Haitians, Moroccans, Algerians--all of these conducive to crime). The Chinese family is clean and well-dressed, their children are focussed on education, and their families start businesses. By contrast those foreigners coming into Quebec (on the sole basis that they speak French) are dirty, ignorant, smelly, poor and soon on welfare. The province of Ontario wins this immigration lottery by a landslide.

I mentioned that the immigrant coming to Quebec is "smelly" for one reason. Home is a place where one feels comfortable, at ease, is oneself without pretense or guard, and can do one's own thing. The sights, the smells, the voices of home are all familiar--phenomena that one's instincts absorb without too much effort. One can speak and listen easily (without too much effort or strain); one can smell the food with pleasure without feeling any quirkiness or weirdness.

That is what a home is--be it a county, a neighborhood, a city or a place of worship.

Now when one a locality is overrun by immigrants (or those foreign to one's culture), "home" is destabilized. The voices become strange and misunderstandable. The smells become unfamiliar and disturbing. The music becomes unrhythmic and discordant. All those elements that make one feel at home are tossed into an unrecognizable ratio and home ceases to be "home".

Instead "home" becomes a shell or container of unfamiliar objects and experiences. One now has to guard what one says in order not to disturb the "other" culture. One cannot be freely oneself in case one's worship "offends" the other. Home now becomes a place of warily watching what one does, when and how. That feeling of being oneself, at ease in a group disappears.

And it is my feeling that America is losing its "hominess". I drive down the highway to work and I see hundreds of strange, sullen faces (Latinos) lining the roads waiting to be picked up by trucks for work that day. They live in makeshift cabins along the roads with no sense of home or comfort. In other words they make those "native" to that community feel themselves to be rootless. Their unmoored presence unhinges any sense of "home" that one has.

When one's home loses that psychological feeling of "being at home", then a nation ceases to be a unified country and instead becomes a disparate, fragmented series of groups. My feeling is that the US has ceased being a country, a home...and instead has become a "universal" container for anyone and everyone. But it has lost all the charms of being a "home".

Yours,
Ronald J. Perowne



I live in Europe. If Europe is "africanized" or "chinesed" to take simple examples (1), the African guy or the Chinese guy will feel at home in this new Europe, but they will also know that they can find again an "African" Africa or a "Chinese" China, if they want to leave Europe and go back to motherland.

But me, what about me. If I don't feel good as a native European in a "africanized" or "chinesed" Europe, where will I go? No solution of replacement for me, I will be the back on the wall. And I don't feel it's neither a comfortable situation for me nor a good future for my children.

Or to take an even more simple example: you buy a flat or you receive a house in heritage of your parents. Would you appreciate that some unknown ones come in your house, without you to ask for your opinion. That they change the tapestry and the pieces of furniture, that they take your room and that finally they say to you to go elsewhere, because you are alone and that they are more numerous than you?

Only stupid people or traitors would find that cool! Or of course people having connections with these "newcomers" and happy to get confortable houses without too much effort.





(1) not a scifi scenario:

http://home.eircom.net/content/irelandcom/topstories/5233563?view=Eircomnet

[BigBaribal]

Does this involve space aliens?


Btw, "space aliens" would at least bring new technologies. I don't think the "aliens" we are talking about are bringing "new technogies" with them.

Or to say the truth, I would by far prefer flying saucers instead of magic carpets ;)

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Mmm...Big Baribal really has issues with non-whites, go with the flow man even Switzerland will be a coffee coloured country at some point.

[Gyles84]

Members of Winnipeg's Sudanese community are considering moving out of the city to start a new life in rural Manitoba.

There goes the neighbourhood! :roll:

[Stormy]

We should go there and hand out some leaflets around the vicinity of this unwanted invasion before it's too late! http://davh.dk/images/smiley/shocked.gif

[BigBaribal]

Mmm...Big Baribal really has issues with non-whites, go with the flow man even Switzerland will be a coffee coloured country at some point.

Absolutely not.

As I'm against any form of colonialism, I would be too against a Sudan invaded by Canadian people.

[Geezah]

Mmm...Big Baribal really has issues with non-whites, go with the flow man even Switzerland will be a coffee coloured country at some point.

I'm not so sure he has a problem with non-whites, more a problem with people moving to a new country and then try and mold into what they want, rather than try and assimilate into their new country and culture!
Hell, when I was in Cali back in 98 prior to becoming a gun-nut I considered moving out there, soon as I was in the airport I thought I was in Spain. Soon put an end to that, I was glad to get back to Richmond,In.

[Gyles84]

Hey Geezah ;)

You been to Guilford lately? Last few yrs have seen a major influx of Chinese and Korean students living off campus and attending the uni. Their pretty quite and don't socialise too much but seem ok for the most part. Also the only ones regularly attending lectures. :lol:

As for immigartion in general, so long as it's legal and attached to a sensible quota im fine with it.

[BigBaribal]

Mmm...Big Baribal really has issues with non-whites, go with the flow man even Switzerland will be a coffee coloured country at some point.

I'm not so sure he has a problem with non-whites, more a problem with people moving to a new country and then try and mold into what they want, rather than try and assimilate into their new country and culture!
Hell, when I was in Cali back in 98 prior to becoming a gun-nut I considered moving out there, soon as I was in the airport I thought I was in Spain. Soon put an end to that, I was glad to get back to Richmond,In.

Exactly, Geezah. In fact, I'm against massive alien immigration, because it can only produce communautarism and a fragmented and unfriendly society. What's happening today in the USA is a clear example of this process: I prefer not to imagine what will happen in the South of the USA, it the massive immigration from Mexico continues this way! Also history teaches us that the heterogen empires are much less stronger than the homogen ethnic countries (in fact, Rome began really to collapse when the emperor Caracalla decided to give the citizenship to almost everybody, killing this way the Roman spirit which was the base of the Empire, you in the USA should rather think about it).

But if the immigration is slow and small, the coming people, even very different people, just mix with the main population without big problems in two or three generations.

Also, I do hate the "multiculturalism" whole concept, because it's just a tool from the economical system to make the lemmings agree with the massive immigration which can so easily offer cheap labor for the industry and the banksters.

A good article from Noam Chomsky about it here:

http://es.geocities.com/sucellus23/781.htm



And finally, I'm convinced that what makes the beauty of this world, it's its diversity. But the real diversity, not the "diversity" sold by the system which is just a way to transform the world and the different peoples in the same grey and easy to transform generic stuff.

[von_Moo142]

Does this involve space aliens?

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that :-)

The thread title got me humming that Catatonia song, which I guess will now stick around in my head along with the Schnappy song...

[Geezah]

Hey Geezah ;)

You been to Guilford lately? Last few yrs have seen a major influx of Chinese and Korean students living off campus and attending the uni. Their pretty quite and don't socialise too much but seem ok for the most part. Also the only ones regularly attending lectures. :lol:

As for immigartion in general, so long as it's legal and attached to a sensible quota im fine with it.

Haven't been to Guildford in probably 10 years, the picture on my left was taken around 89-90, time flies when you're having fun :D

When I was last in Guildford I don't remember there being too many immigrant Asians but as I'm fascinated by the Asian culture I wouldn't see it as a problem ;)

[Gyles84]

Hey Geezah ;)

You been to Guilford lately? Last few yrs have seen a major influx of Chinese and Korean students living off campus and attending the uni. Their pretty quite and don't socialise too much but seem ok for the most part. Also the only ones regularly attending lectures. :lol:

As for immigartion in general, so long as it's legal and attached to a sensible quota im fine with it.

Haven't been to Guildford in probably 10 years, the picture on my left was taken around 89-90, time flies when you're having fun :D

When I was last in Guildford I don't remember there being too many immigrant Asians but as I'm fascinated by the Asian culture I wouldn't see it as a problem ;)

Hehe, no probs here mate. Some of their imports are pretty hot to boot.

I go past that station corner almost every day. Still got a few scater kids giving it the attention it deserves. ;)

[Stormy]

Look at you both.... Just look at you both, Wanting to feast on a asian chick already! :P I knew something was up.

[Gyles84]

:P

Now i'll refrain from hijacking the thread any further.

[Stormy]

;)

[Lurch]

Some kids who came to Canada with their parents and they got into crime/drugs etc. No different than a Canadian born who breaks the law.

The article has nothing to do with your thoughts on multiculturalism. I agree that an immigrant should be a Canadian first and whatever second. But we can't expect them to throw away their culture once they get here. If you as a European moved to Japan, would you jump head-first into kimono's and buddhism? Or would you act as a European in the "weird" culture of Japan. Doing your best to assimilate and become a productive member of society.

If you wanted to discuss a certain government's immigration policies that is fine. But don't post a completely unrelated article to support an idea you failed to express.