View Full Version : Today's Pic's. Nov. 21
Seraphim
11-21-2003, 06:40 AM
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U.S. military police remove a man from a rooftop near the Palestine hotel in Baghdad Friday Nov. 21, 2003. At least six rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing limited damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. Witnesses said one man was injured. (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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U.S. military police inspect a rooftop near the Palestine hotel in Baghdad Friday Nov. 21, 2003. At least six rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing limited damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. Witnesses said one man was injured. (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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A U.S. 1st Armored division explosives expert carries a rocket from a cart with rocket launcher outside the Palestine hotel in Baghdad Friday Nov. 21, 2003. At least six rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing limited damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. Witnesses said one man was injured. (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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A man removes debris in the Palestine hotel in Baghdad Friday Nov. 21, 2003. At least six rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing limited damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. Witnesses said one man was injured. (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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U.S. 1st Armored division soldiers secure the area outside the Palestine hotel in Baghdad Friday Nov. 21, 2003. At least six rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing limited damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. Witnesses said one man was injured. (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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Baghdad's skyline seen through destroyed windows and a hole made by a rocked propelled grenade (RPG) at Baghdad's Palestine hotel, Friday, 21. Nov, 2003 after the hotel was hit by at least three rockets. Rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. There were no immediate reports on casualties. U.S. soldiers and Iraqi police discovered a rocket-launcher attached to a donkey cart with a capacity to fire 30 rockets on nearby Saadoun Street. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)
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A U.S. soldier holds his breath after running up the floors in Baghdad's Palestine Hotel, searching for injured people, Friday, 21. Nov, 2003 after it was hit by at least three rockets. Rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. There were no immediate reports on casualties. U.S. soldiers and Iraqi police discovered a rocket-launcher attached to a donkey cart with a capacity to fire 30 rockets on nearby Saadoun Street (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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U.S. soldiers evacuate an injured person out of the Palestine hotel, Friday, 21. Nov, 2003 after it was hit by at least three rockets. Rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad on Friday morning, causing damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. There were no immediate reports on how many casualties. U.S. soldiers and Iraqi police discovered a rocket-launcher attached to a donkey cart with a capacity to fire 30 rockets on nearby Saadoun Street (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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U.S. soldiers arrive at the site of morning attacks in central Baghdad, November 21, 2003. Rockets slammed into the Iraqi oil ministry and two central Baghdad hotels used by Western contractors and journalists, wounding several people. *******/Damir Sagolj
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Guttorm
11-21-2003, 07:24 AM
I'm suprised people are still living in hotel palestine... I mean, it's been taking quite a beating lately.
wulfstan
11-21-2003, 09:24 AM
one question; timed RPGs on a donkey cart, good idea, but surely when the first one goes off it will scare the donkey, then it will leg it off and random buildings will be hit where ever the donkey runs to!
The insanity of it...
Seoulstriker
11-21-2003, 09:24 AM
one question; timed RPGs on a donkey cart, good idea, but surely when the first one goes off it will scare the donkey, then it will leg it off and random buildings will be hit where ever the donkey runs to!
The insanity of it...
i don't think they were RPGs. i think they are just rockets.
Seoulstriker
11-21-2003, 09:25 AM
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Argyll
11-21-2003, 10:24 AM
Perhaps the donkey was deaf anyway?
Maybe the donkey didn't understand the "Iraqi" for "Run for it Mustafa"?
He219
11-21-2003, 12:18 PM
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Sniper course instructors teach marksmanship techniques to soldiers with the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) during sniper training in Mosul, Iraq, Nov. 19, 2003. The National Guard Marksmanship Training Center in Camp Robinson, North Little Rock, Ark., sent a cadre of it's sniper course to northern Iraq to train coalition forces. This the first time since 1968, that a sniper school has been held on foreign soil. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Josh Hutcheson) (Released)
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A supporter holds up a placard as President Bush arrives at Sedgefield, England, for lunch with Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. Bush on the last day of his state visit to Britain is visiting Blair's Parlimentary constituency in the north of England. (AP Photo/Alastair Grant)
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Atlantic Ocean (Nov. 17, 2003) -- A U.S. Marine Crops MV-22 Osprey lands aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Bataan (LHD 5). The Osprey is a multi-engine, dual-piloted, self-deployable, medium lift, vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) tilt rotor aircraft designed for combat, combat support, combat service support, and Special Operations missions worldwide. Still under development, the MV-22 variant is scheduled to replace the Corps' aged fleet of CH-46E and CH-53D medium lift helicopters. Bataan is underway conducting scheduled training in the Atlantic Ocean. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 3rd Class Brandy Tilbury. (RELEASED)
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Fort Lauderdale, Fla. (Nov. 11, 2003) -- Sailors aboard USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) “Man the Rails” as the Navy’s newest Nimitz class aircraft carrier arrives in For Lauderdale, Fla. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 1st Class John Lill. (RELEASED)
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At sea aboard USS O'Brien (DD 975) Nov. 5, 2003 – The guided missile cruiser USS Chancellorsville (CG 62) fires a surface-to-surface Standard Missile during MISSILEX 04-1, while underway in the western Pacific Ocean with the cruiser USS Cowpens (CG 63) following close behind. MISSILEX 04-1 involves firing missiles at controllable target drones provided by Commander Fleet Activities Okinawa’s ordnance department. The drones were launched from O’Brien and each missile fired was equipped with telemetry-gathering instrumentation to provide an accurate assessment of missile performance. U.S. Navy photo by Intelligence Specialist 1st Class Roberto Montoto. (RELEASED)
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At sea aboard USS O'Brien (DD 975) Nov. 5, 2003 -- USS O’Brien launches a surface-to-air NATO Sea Sparrow missile during MISSILEX 04-1. MISSILEX 04-1 involves firing missiles at controllable target drones provided by Commander Fleet Activities Okinawa’s ordnance department. The drones were launched from O’Brien and each missile fired was equipped with telemetry-gathering instrumentation to provide an accurate assessment of missile performance. U.S. Navy photo by Ensign Kristin Dahlgren. (RELEASED)
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An anti NBC team of the Italian Army checks an Iraqi gas mask during an inspection of a former Iraq Army base near the southern town of Nasiriyah, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)
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An Italian Carabinieri police officer patrols the area around a hotel used by Western journalists, as another in the background searches an Iraqi man, in the Iraqi town of Nasiriyah, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. Some journalists left the hotel after warnings of terrorist activities in this southern Iraqi area as two hotels in Baghdad were hit by rockets fired from donkey carts. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)
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A U.S. 1st Armored division explosives expert disarms an overturned cart with rocket launcher outside the Palestine hotel in Baghdad Friday Nov. 21, 2003. At least six rockets slammed into the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in downtown Baghdad Friday morning, causing limited damage to the buildings that house many U.S. workers and foreign journalists. Witnesses said one man was injured. (AP Photo/Dusan Vranic)
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Seaman Wayne Sherman, 31, from Bristol, Conn. fires a AK-47 assault rifle at Chu Chi, Vietnam on Friday Nov. 21, 2003. On shore leave sailors from the visiting USS Vandegrift get a tour of the infamous Chu Chi tunnels, the massive underground network used by communists during the Vietnam War. The Vandegrift was the first war ship to make a port call in the communist country since the end of the Vietnam War. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel)
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Seaman Larry Batiste, 22, from Houston, TX, foreground along with his shipmates check out an old destroyed tank at Cu Chi, Vietnam on Friday Nov. 21, 2003. On shore leave sailors from the visiting USS Vandegrift get a tour of the infamous Cu Chi tunnels, the massive underground network used by communists during the Vietnam War. The Vandegrift was the first war ship to make a port call in the communist country since the end of the Vietnam War. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel)
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Soldiers from Bravo Troop, 9th Cavalry Brigade Reconnaisance Team, 3rd Brigade, 4th Infantry Division, ascend stairs while searching a house, Nov. 18, 2003 in Samarrah, Iraq. The soldiers are deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, the multinational coalition effort to liberate the Iraqi people and end the regime of Saddam Hussein. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Jack Morse)
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Chap. (1st Lt.) Tino Villalovas hands out a blanket to an apprehensive Afghan girl during LTF 129's delivery of humanitarian aid to local villages. (Photo by Staff Sgt. Keith Thompson, 4th Public Affairs Detachment)
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A squad of Chilean marines advances on its targets while field firing the M-16A2 during the Chilean Bilateral Exchange Exercise here Nov. 7. For many of these Marines, this training exercise is the first time visiting the United States. "(Chilean marines) all see this as a great opportunity to come here and learn more about combat tactics," said 2nd Lt. Jens Rosenkranz, a platoon leader of the Chileans.
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Private Jorge F. Juica, an infantryman in the Chilean Marine Corps, loads a magazine with ammunition during a field firing exercise held here Nov. 7. Fifty Chilean Marines visited the base and trained with units Nov. 5-16, as part of a military exchange program.
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One of the T-72 tanks dedicated to the next cycle of GTEP training prepares for a test drive at Vaziani.
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GTEP- MajGen. Fields discusses maintenance and vehicle preparation with Georgian officers as a T-72 tank and BMP-1 armored personnel carrier are worked on in the background.
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Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps, the Hon. Gordon England, Secretary of the Navy, and Lt. Gen. James Conway, stand at the position of attention, waiting to present the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force with the Presidential Unit Citation.
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AIR, GROUND ASSAULT — Unloading of weapons and ammunition found by members of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Battalion 327th Infantry, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), during a mass air assault and raid on a village in search of weapons and smugglers near Qayyarah West, Iraq, Nov. 19, 2003. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Justin Harris
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A Palestinian boy looks at an Israeli soldier stopping Palestinian worshippers attending prayers at the Ibraheemi mosque in the West Bank city of Hebron November 21, 2003. Several thousand Palestinians prayed in the Ibraheemi mosque for the last Friday prayers of the holy month of Ramadan. *******/Nayef Hashlamoun
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Roger Rabbit
11-21-2003, 12:25 PM
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Anyone know why this guy isn't wearing webbing? Just wondering where he keeps spare mags. And anyone know whats written on the arm band just below the Union Jack?
He219
11-21-2003, 12:33 PM
Say, I never noticed the 'vertical aft grip' on the SA-80's.... What is it for?
p-)
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KIRKUK, Iraq -- Airmen 1st Class David Strudgeon and Jenna Welsh, both members of the 506th Expeditionary Logistics Readiness Squadron, offload crates of telecommunications equipment here, Nov. 17th. The equipment will help rebuild the telecommunications infrastructure of Northern Iraq. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Robert Wieland)
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ANDERSEN AIR FORCE BASE, Guam -- (From left) Staff Sgt. Lucindo Margallo, Senior Airman Joseph Dombroski and Staff Sgt. Michael Wiest check on a Japanese air self-defense force F-4 jet here with Japanese Tech. Sgt. Hidinero Miyazaki. Margallo, Dombroski and Wiest are crew chiefs from the 67th Aircraft Maintenance Unit at Kadena Air Base, Japan. Miyazaki is a crew chief from the 83rd Wing at Naha Air Base, Japan. (U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Val Gempis)
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ANDERSEN AIR FORCE BASE, Guam -- Japanese Maj. Hideaki Yoshizawa explains the features of his aircraft to Staff Sgts. Martin Waack (foreground), Lucilio Margallo (left) and Senior Airman Joseph Dombroski during exercise Cope North. Waack, Margallo and Dombroski are crew chiefs from the 67th Aircraft Maintenance Unit at Kadena Air Base, Japan. Hideaki is an F-4 fighter pilot from the 83rd Wing at Naha Air Base, Japan. (U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Val Gempis)
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MCAS Miramar - German pilots and Miramar Marines train with the F-4 Phantom during the Air Force 20th Fighter Squadron's visit here Nov. 14.
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Sgt. C. Nuntavong from Team Miramar Combat Correspondents, peeks around a corner of a bunker during a regulation game in the Paintball Persecution tournament held at the Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton Paintball Park Saturday. Team MCC was one of 19 teams in the tournament, and they managed to take home third place despite having rental guns and lacking the experience that a lot of the other teams in the tournament had.
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In a last attempt at charging the enemy lines, a paintballer running for cover is gunned down by the opponent while some of his fallen enemies watch from the 'Dead Box' where players go after they are shot.
Also why is there a front grip on the back of the rifle?
Tiger
11-21-2003, 12:44 PM
Say, I never noticed the 'vertical aft grip' on the SA-80's.... What is it for?
It's not a SA-80. It's a L-86 LSW (the light machine gun variant of the SA-80). ;)
REMOV
11-21-2003, 12:48 PM
Also why is there a front grip on the back of the rifle?
This is British 5,56mm L86A1 LSW (Light Support Weapon), and this back handgrip helps the rifleman to stabilize the weapon.
Look at picture below.
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Eddie
11-21-2003, 12:59 PM
Anyone know why this guy isn't wearing webbing? Just wondering where he keeps spare mags. And anyone know whats written on the arm band just below the Union Jack?
He's an MP, that's what is written in his armband (and the same in arabic, I suppose). Also the MP thing explains the webbing, just kidding.
He219
11-21-2003, 01:25 PM
For your tank viewing pleasure, Op. Ivy ...
:D
Operation Ivy
11-21-2003, 02:50 PM
reactive aromor makes tanks so ugly :( <---- (the T-72)
He219
11-21-2003, 03:34 PM
More pic's for today...
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A unit of Hezbollah guerrillas take part in the Chicken Dance to mark Al-Quds Day "Jerusalem Day", in a suburb south of Beirut, Lebanon, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003, which is held to coincide with the last Friday of the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadan. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah addresses a mass rally that Hezbollah will respond harshly to any Israeli attack on Lebanon. (AP Photo/str)
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A crack unit of Hezbollah commandos take part in a military parade to mark Al-Quds Day (Jerusalem Day) in a suburb south of Beirut, Lebanon, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. It is held to coincide with the last Friday of the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadan. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah warned at a mass rally that Hezbollah will respond harshly to any Israeli attack on Lebanon. (AP Photo/Mahmoud Tawil)
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A masked member of the Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad stands as another holds a live hand grenade at a 'hot-potato' passing competition with the militant group Hamas in the Beit Lahia refugee camp, northern Gaza Strip, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon says he is considering taking unilateral steps toward the Palestinians as Islamic militant groups agree to attend talks in Cairo aimed at ending attacks on Israelis. (AP Photo/Kevin Frayer)
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School children wave British and U.S. flags as the motorcade, with U.S. President George W. Bush aboard, pass by after visiting Sedgefield Community College in Sedgefield, England, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. President Bush is on his way back to the U.S. after his four-day state visit to Britain. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
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Germany's President Johannes Rau, center, arrives at the Government Palace in Queretaro, Mexico, accompanied by Governor of the State of Queretaro, Fransisco Garrido, right, Friday Nov. 21, 2003. Rau is on a three-day tequila binge in Mexico. (AP Photo/Marco Ugarte)
Steve Andrews
11-21-2003, 03:38 PM
I used to be a LSW gunner. The rear grip is COMPLETELY useless.
When stripping the weapon the bottom section or "trigger mechanism housing (TMH)" is removed:
http://www.seacadets.co.uk/resources/sa80/image017.jpg
When the weapon is assembled the TMH is slightly wobbly on the gun. Therfore if you fire it holding only the pistol grip and rear grip, the weapon is free to wobble about and spread your shots horribly.
I favoured holding the forward handguard, as on the rifle.
Gurhka shots at Bisley used to hold the weapon with their left hand on top of the gun, just infront of the SUSAT, pulling down and back.
This would get pretty hot after prolonged shooting though..its more of a competition shooting thing...
More pic's for today...
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467975
[quote]A unit of Hezbollah guerrillas take part in the Chicken Dance to mark Al-Quds Day "Jerusalem Day", in a suburb south of Beirut, Lebanon, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003, which is held to coincide with the last Friday of the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadan. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah addresses a mass rally that Hezbollah will respond harshly to any Israeli attack on Lebanon. (AP Photo/str)
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467935
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467970
A crack unit of Hezbollah commandos take part in a military parade to mark Al-Quds Day (Jerusalem Day) in a suburb south of Beirut, Lebanon, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. It is held to coincide with the last Friday of the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadan. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah warned at a mass rally that Hezbollah will respond harshly to any Israeli attack on Lebanon. (AP Photo/Mahmoud Tawil)
LOL those kids pissed you off eh? By the way those kids train in rappeling from buildings etc.. harcore I tell ya (no seriously).
Herrmannek
11-21-2003, 04:10 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467935
LOL those kids pissed you off eh? By the way those kids train in rappeling from buildings etc.. harcore I tell ya (no seriously).
But they don't teach them to tie shoe laces :)
he's too good to tie his shoe lace. How is he going to diffrenciate himself from the rest if they all look the same.... :D
Seoulstriker
11-21-2003, 04:23 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467847
doesn't want his package to run away. :P
Operation Ivy
11-21-2003, 04:32 PM
For your tank viewing pleasure, Op. Ivy ...
:D
Ahhh its loading i cant anything AHHHHH
Seraphim
11-21-2003, 04:32 PM
Nono, hes doing a Michael Jackson impersonation
jdbjdb
11-21-2003, 04:50 PM
LOL those kids pissed you off eh? By the way those kids train in rappeling from buildings etc.. harcore I tell ya (no seriously).
Brainwashed lil' kids :bash:
glofs
11-21-2003, 04:54 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031121/i/r2877169539.jpg
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031121/i/r341373604.jpg
Newsweek again?
LOL those kids pissed you off eh? By the way those kids train in rappeling from buildings etc.. harcore I tell ya (no seriously).
Brainwashed lil' kids :bash:
since when did becoming a boy scout mean brainwashing?
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467847
doesn't want his package to run away. :P
a soldeir with a weapon is acting tough on a 70 year old man. Why doesn't he find someone his own age?
a soldeir with a weapon is acting tough on a 70 year old man. Why doesn't he find someone his own age?
How did you get to the conclusion that he is threatening someone with his weapon?!
jdbjdb
11-21-2003, 05:39 PM
a soldeir with a weapon is acting tough on a 70 year old man. Why doesn't he find someone his own age?
He could have had a weapon under his clothes, that and bad b/o
SFontaine
11-21-2003, 05:40 PM
since when did becoming a boy scout mean brainwashing?
Boy Scouts get Sub-Machine Guns now?
Whistler
11-21-2003, 05:45 PM
LMFAO!!!!
Boy scouts?!?!
Are you f*cking joking?
Man, I wish I got to shoot off MP-5 and march around in military fatigues back when I was in boy scouts :roll: .
I'm just glad that I live in a country where if I had kids they wouldn't be so brainwashed full of hate that they want to run around with heavy weapons and kill other people.
ArmedPacifist
11-21-2003, 05:50 PM
I'm just glad that I live in a country where if I had kids they wouldn't be so brainwashed full of hate that they want to run around with heavy weapons and kill other people.
You guys never played cops and robbers, cow boys and indians, or fired cap guns?
I fired my first gun when I was in a cadet program at 12 years old. I also practiced drill, and marching and had my countries flag sewn onto the camoflauge uniform I wore. Does that make me brainwashed?
Vance
11-21-2003, 05:54 PM
But you didn't want to kill anyone, and you didn't hate anyone, did you? I sure hope not.
a soldeir with a weapon is acting tough on a 70 year old man. Why doesn't he find someone his own age?
How did you get to the conclusion that he is threatening someone with his weapon?!
well it might just be me, but pointing a weapon isnt excactely the best way to go....also a great way of crowd control :roll:
just look at the guy man...he's pointing the gun at the crowd with one hand like he's some kinda gangster or something....
oh btw, One, boy scouts is one thing...but playing with mp5s on boy scouts aint excactely normal :|
IDFM203
11-21-2003, 06:05 PM
I am going to try to stay out of this picture “flame” contest…………
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467935
Though here I just couldn’t help if for I found this picture to be hilarious rofl
I mean he is so proud with his best mocho face and yet……………. rofl rofl
Hey come on “one” even you have to admit its funny ;) :D
Shalom :D
well it might just be me, but pointing a weapon isnt excactely the best way to go....also a great way of crowd control
just look at the guy man...he's pointing the gun at the crowd with one hand like he's some kinda gangster or something....
I don't know about you Haiw, but when you point a fire arm at someone you usually hold it with both hands. If the soldier was threatening someone in the crowd (that means making them belive he would use his M-16 againts them) then he would be holding it with both hands.
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467935
"Look Mom, I can fly!!!"
Ratamacue
11-21-2003, 06:18 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467935
"The Chicken Song" from way back in elementary school comes to mind.
well it might just be me, but pointing a weapon isnt excactely the best way to go....also a great way of crowd control
just look at the guy man...he's pointing the gun at the crowd with one hand like he's some kinda gangster or something....
I don't know about you Haiw, but when you point a fire arm at someone you usually hold it with both hands. If the soldier was threatening someone in the crowd (that means making them belive he would use his M-16 againts them) then he would be holding it with both hands.
man, get a grip...
NO ONE IN A SANE MIND SHOULD POINT A WEAPON AT A CROWD
basta...no discussion...
you know, people arent exactely comfortable with a weapon being pointed at em...
just face it; there is NO excuse for the soldier to have this kind of behaviour, unless there would be a heavily armed crowd or something, but that definately isnt the case here...
Ratamacue
11-21-2003, 06:31 PM
Haiw, what happens when you have a crowd threatening to overrun your positions even if they don't have weapons? What if they're throwing rocks? You just take it? No, you point a rifle at them and maybe that'll settle 'em down a bit.
well it might just be me, but pointing a weapon isnt excactely the best way to go....also a great way of crowd control
just look at the guy man...he's pointing the gun at the crowd with one hand like he's some kinda gangster or something....
I don't know about you Haiw, but when you point a fire arm at someone you usually hold it with both hands. If the soldier was threatening someone in the crowd (that means making them belive he would use his M-16 againts them) then he would be holding it with both hands.
man, get a grip...
NO ONE IN A SANE MIND SHOULD POINT A WEAPON AT A CROWD
basta...no discussion...
you know, people arent exactely comfortable with a weapon being pointed at em...
just face it; there is NO excuse for the soldier to have this kind of behaviour, unless there would be a heavily armed crowd or something, but that definately isnt the case here...
The soldier isn't pointing the weapon at anyone!! Look how he's holding it for heaven sake!
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031121/capt.bag11511211120.iraq_donkey_rocket_launcher_bag115.jpg
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I'd keep an eye on that donkey if I was them...
Anger over donkey bomb attack
Animal rights campaigners have complained to Yasser Arafat after a donkey was blown up in a bomb attack in the West Bank.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (Peta) has sent a letter to the Palestinian leader to protest at last month's blast near Jerusalem.
No humans were killed when the donkey was strapped with explosives and detonated, but the attack narrowly missed an Israeli bus carrying soldiers.
"We have received many calls and letters from people shocked at the bombing," Peta president Ingrid Newkirk wrote.
"If you have the opportunity, will you please add to your burdens my request that you appeal to all those who listen to you to leave the animals out of this conflict?"
Ms Newkirk says she has not asked Mr Arafat to try to stop suicide bombings that kill people.
"It's not my business to inject myself into human wars," she told the Washington Post.
She adopted a polite tone in the letter because the group always try to "ask nicely" the first time, a Peta spokesman says.
A spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington said: "When you have a regime that has no respect for human life, can you really expect them to respect animal life?"
Story filed: 17:15 Thursday 6th February 2003
EvanL
11-21-2003, 07:09 PM
Regardless if hes pointing it at the crowd or not, he shouldnt be carelessly handling a firearm with that many people around.
since when did becoming a boy scout mean brainwashing?
Boy Scouts get Sub-Machine Guns now?
LOOL you cant tell the difference between a plastic MP5 and a real one ;)
Haiw, what happens when you have a crowd threatening to overrun your positions even if they don't have weapons? What if they're throwing rocks? You just take it? No, you point a rifle at them and maybe that'll settle 'em down a bit.
A crowd of men over 60 who will die if you push them yup that is realy threatnening. I think we need a vulcan on hand to keep the crowd under control.
PS: I'll be responding to the post in the other section when I get back home, I didn't run away :P
ArmedPacifist
11-21-2003, 07:38 PM
But you didn't want to kill anyone, and you didn't hate anyone, did you? I sure hope not.
What makes you think these groups of kids want to kill people? I think that's a very broad assumption......do American army cadets want to kill people? They train with soldiers, I guess tha means they hate people and want to kill people?
IDFM203
11-21-2003, 07:56 PM
Regardless if hes pointing it at the crowd or not, he shouldnt be carelessly handling a firearm with that many people around. Listen I don’t really want to comment on the validity of what he is doing or not or if he is pointing to something or not, for I am not at that scene and there are tons of other factors that we don’t see in that picture.
What I do want to respond to is your phrase “carelessly handling a firearm “ and what that implies.
First, this is a soldier in a land that is under constant conflict.
All Israeli soldiers carry weapons at all times.
This is a trained and professional soldier that is very trained with weapons (firearms) and is holding a weapon that has no bullet in the chamber and it is on the safety mode.
That is not “careless handling of a firearm” at all!!!!….not by any stretch of the imagination!!!
Shalom :D
EvanL
11-21-2003, 08:16 PM
Regardless if hes pointing it at the crowd or not, he shouldnt be carelessly handling a firearm with that many people around. Listen I don’t really want to comment on the validity of what he is doing or not or if he is pointing to something or not, for I am not at that scene and there are tons of other factors that we don’t see in that picture.
What I do want to respond to is your phrase “carelessly handling a firearm “ and what that implies.
First, this is a soldier in a land that is under constant conflict.
All Israeli soldiers carry weapons at all times.
This is a trained and professional soldier that is very trained with weapons (firearms) and is holding a weapon that has no bullet in the chamber and it is on the safety mode.
That is not “careless handling of a firearm” at all!!!!….not by any stretch of the imagination!!!
Shalom :D
Hes ****ing holding a weapon with one hand waving it around. How do you know it has no bullet in the chamber>? do you have xray vision?
Just because its an israeli soldier doesnt mean you have to come to his aide and say how hes doing nothing wrong. israelis make mistakes sometimes as well. DOnt act so ignorant man. It sickens me how you get sometimes.
Shalom
IDFM203
11-21-2003, 08:33 PM
Hes ****ing holding a weapon with one hand waving it around. How do you know it has no bullet in the chamber>? do you have xray vision? geez Evan calm the hell down :roll: Just because I make a comment does not give you the right to go ape s*it here :roll:
Secondly how do I know?!?.
A, from what I can tell on the pic, the ejection port cover is closed
B, I know the ROE that Israeli soldiers operate in these environments being a former IDF soldier my self and there is never a case in these situations where there is a bullet in the chamber..never!!!! (Unless of course shooting breaks out)
Just because its an israeli soldier doesnt mean you have to come to his aide and say how hes doing nothing wrong. boy its like you have such animosity that you were foaming at the mouth, chomping at the bits to respond to me without clearly reading what I wrote. :roll:
I never defended him nor even commented on what he was doing!!!!
Here is what I wrote” Listen I don’t really want to comment on the validity of what he is doing or not or if he is pointing to something or not, for I am not at that scene and there are tons of other factors that we don’t see in that picture.”
Again not defending him nor criticizing him being that I wasn’t there!!!
I was just commenting on your use of the phrase “carelessly handling a firearm “
Geez Evan go read my post again!!!!! :roll:
israelis make mistakes sometimes as well. and I have said it a hundred times that we do and that we are not perfect (as is no one else in the world).
DOnt act so ignorant man. It sickens me how you get sometimes. no it sickness me how you respond without having an idea of what I am talking about even though I made my self as clear as day!!!
Oh and lets not act childish with this ignorant charge for I can surly level that at you.
Despite your diatribe,
Shalom my friend :D
EvanL
11-21-2003, 09:00 PM
Well you sir are a festeezio. See i can make up big words too. :P
haha
Shalom my friend.
IDFM203
11-21-2003, 09:05 PM
Well you sir are a festeezio. See i can make up big words too. :P
haha
Shalom my friend. so your calling me a "butt butt" ;) rofl
http://cp.yahoo.net/search/cache?p=festeezio&ei=UTF-8&cop=mss&url=btFp9QgoxnMJ:www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=festeezio
shalom :hug:
EvanL
11-21-2003, 09:11 PM
Wow i didnt think it was a real word. I heard peter griffin say it on Family Guy.
usa320
11-21-2003, 10:02 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=467935
I could take him out with nothing but my bare hands.
Vance
11-21-2003, 10:05 PM
Well, I sure hope so.
Seraphim
11-22-2003, 06:17 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031121/capt.xel10811211744.iraq_xel108.jpg
U.S. troops approach a house outside Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s hometown of Tikrit in search of followers of the ousted iraqi leader, Friday, Nov. 21, 2003. The military has been cracking down on insurgents amid attacks on the American-led coalition forces in the area. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)
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