Italian vs. Russian Mafia....who would kicks who's ass

[Dennis G]

http://glasgowcrew.tripod.com/sicilian.html

http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/Rus.html

http://glasgowcrew.tripod.com/russian.html

who would win and why?

I'm going with the Italian mafia



pls post your top three favorite crime,Mafia movies

Mine

1) The Godfather part 1

2) Reservoir Dogs

3) Scarface

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Russian Mafia all the way...those dudes are some cold mofo's.
For the movies:
1) The Godfather part 1

2) the Soprano's (its not a movie but its close enough)

3) Scarface

[wholagun]

From what I heard, most Russian mobsters either hired or used fromer KGB agents in thier operations or had them train thier guys. Besides, Russians are tough SOB's. Italien mobster are all about image and eating in fancy restaurants and wearing wide breast suits. Lastly, one thing Russia has that Italien mobs don't, Kalashnikovs. :)

[wholagun]

Oh my fav moives almost forgot.

1) God Father 1
2) Scarface
3) Good Fellows
4) Boon Dock Saints (not really mofia, but still a good movie)

[ChuckThunder]

Russian for sure. Most are former military which most Italians weren't.

[Dennis G]

Russian for sure. Most are former military which most Italians weren't. Yeah that would be a factor in what could make a hard mafia.




From what I heard, most Russian mobsters either hired or used fromer KGB agents in thier operations or had them train thier guys. Besides, Russians are tough SOB's. Italien mobster are all about image and eating in fancy restaurants and wearing wide breast suits. Lastly, one thing Russia has that Italien mobs don't, Kalashnikovs. I have heard things like that. Former unpaided soldiers and spetsnaz and such things





3) Good Fellows
4) Boon Dock Saints (not really mofia, but still a good movie)

its was hard not to put those movie's on my list.

[Herrmannek]

Russian for sure. Most are former military which most Italians weren't.

But Italian mafia is educated(econommics, law,...) and mafiass main job isn't shooting. So I bet on Italians.

[StarvingStudent47]

I'm betting on the Russians, though I hope the Italians win. Italian mafias are as civilized as organized crime can be. They respect certain codes of behavior. If you don't mess with them, they don't mess with you. I lived in an Italian-mafia controlled town for four years, and let me tell you, it was just fine. I never feared for my safety because of mobsters.

The Russian mob scares the hell out of me. They obey no rules. They have no sense of "etiquette." You couldn't pay me to live in a town controlled by the Russian mob. Not for ten million dollars.

I predict the Russians will win an out-and-out mob war because they've got more firepower and are quicker to use it. But if it's a question of out-lasting each other, the Italians will win because they understand how to not cross certain lines to keep the Feds off their back.

I'll let you all guess what my favorite mafia-related movie is :D


Boss Yakavetta: "The 90's are killing me. I shouldn't have done that. You're not supposed to tell a guy you're gonna kill him no more. I got to tiptoe through the tulips with these a--holes. Taking all the fun out of the job."


"And Shepherds we shall be
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand
Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.
So we shall flow a river forth to Thee
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."

[Dalleer]

The Russians of course, because their big and bad....and mostly Russian.

[perdurabo]

i'll say Polish organized crime groups;-) Pruszków, Wołomin, gang Baraniny....;-)
Prabably russians are cold blood killers so they can do more demage but italians are educated so prabably they can better hide from law enforcment and they can make more money

[Gringo]

The Japenese Yakuza

[perdurabo]

"trzeba być twardym słowianinem nie miękkim ninja"
-because you have to be hard slavic not pussy ninja :D (almoust direct translation so no poetic :( )

[Deuterium]

Crypts or Bloods woup dat ass anyday.

[Fargin]

Amager Drengene fra Holmbladsgade.

[Salty Dog]

as an italian american, i totally have to go with the italians.

[Roger Rabbit]

Who cares, i reckon we should make sure the police beat both the Russian and Italian Mafia.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Russian Mafia hands down.

They are the big boys, apparently they are buying up alot of London real estate.

Ex Alpha group Spetnaz and KGB types against silly crusty Italian stereotypes = no contest.

[Salty Dog]

this is my grandfather way back when, everyone always asks me if he was in the mafia, yet, the truth of it is that he was a boston cop. :lol:

http://server4.uploadit.org/files/231103-papa.gif

[wholagun]

Siciliy which was made famous for having large mob families, now has the lowest birthrate in the industrial world (I got that fact from national geographic) :)

[EvanL]

Theres no such thing as the Italian Mafia anymore. They have organized crime but no more mafias. The only mafia that still has any power in the United States is the Russian Mafia, and they still dont even do very much.

[GLax]

i'm gonna go with Russian mafia. i saw a documentary on the history channel about them, pretty harsh guys. one thing to remember though, its the mafias that you dont ever hear about, Italian or Russian, that are the most dangerous...

[wholagun]

Theres no such thing as the Italian Mafia anymore. They have organized crime but no more mafias. The only mafia that still has any power in the United States is the Russian Mafia, and they still dont even do very much.

I didn't know there was a difference.

Explain.

[StarvingStudent47]

Theres no such thing as the Italian Mafia anymore. They have organized crime but no more mafias. The only mafia that still has any power in the United States is the Russian Mafia, and they still dont even do very much.

As someone who just spent four years living in an Italian-mafia-controlled suburb of Boston, I would strongly disagree with that statement.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Russian Mob roxxers Italys boxxers

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Gonna go with the Russians, but it is going to take them a while to get there, the Italian mob are well entrenched in American society so it will not be easy. The Russian mob have shown themselves to ruthless and creative crooks and never content to rest on their laurels they have been suspected of buying into property ventures in the UK using front men but so far they have not been using the UK for anything more than a money laundering centre. The Balkan gangs are however making inroads into UK criminal culture they have been the biggest threat since the Italians and the Baltic Jewish gangs of the 1920's internment in WW2 seemed to put a stop to foreign gangs until the 1990's the last Baltic Jewish gangs probaly stopped operating after rationing was stopped and the more aggresive home grown gangs appeared on the scene guys like Darby Santini and Jack Spot were pretty scary looking rarely used guns just lead pipes and fists.

[EvanL]

Theres no such thing as the Italian Mafia anymore. They have organized crime but no more mafias. The only mafia that still has any power in the United States is the Russian Mafia, and they still dont even do very much.

As someone who just spent four years living in an Italian-mafia-controlled suburb of Boston, I would strongly disagree with that statement.
As someone who lives in the hotspot of the world for mafias (NYC), i would have to agree with myself, therefore overruling your disagreement. ;)

[army cadet_ngcsu]

Economically the Italians have the Russians beat. The money they rake in every year from Vegas and Reno alone is probobly more than the Russians make a year (yes they still do business there, just look at all the gaming commissioners, they're Italian). Like one other person commented here, I too, have lived in an Italian mafia neighborhood in Pittsburgh and I can tell you that the mafia is alive and well. The FBI and news reporters always say that the mafia does not exist anymore or that they are in hard times..bla bla bla. Didn't J. Edgar Hoover believe that the mafia never existed and even claim that publically?

Militarily and in a fight, my money would go on the Russians. I mean it has been documented that these guys sell nuclear weapons on the black market. They also do employ for Specialy Forces soldiers as hitmen and other interesting jobs.

[usa320]

AS an Italian im not proud of this, but indeed, the Russian.

Most have military background, most have had ****ty lives and dont give two ****s, and as was earlier stated, the Italian mob isnt as organized anymore.

[Russian Texan]

If only you knew what I know ;)

The term Russian mafia was created by the western media. There is no such thing as Russian mafia. Although anyone in Russia will tell you that the government itself is the mafia :)
Small russian organized crime groups you observe here in the US have nothing to do with the mafia.
First of all in Russia there are multitude of mafias if you will: kremlin, military, MVD, industrial, etc...
The interesting detail that not many people know is that Russia has two economies: an official economy and a "shade" economy that accounts for almost as much as an official GDP... but ofcourse all of it is under the table.

Unfortunatelly, due to the number of factors, in Russia almost anything can be bought and sold and it means that organized crime has
access to things that no one else in the world does: the richest natural resources base, huge scientific potential and vast selection of weaponary for both use and sale. To put it in simple terms: while Italians are making "money" :) through controlling laundromats, Russians are making MONEY through selling military hardware, aluminum and oil.
People, you should thank God that Russian organized crime is not interested in the West in terms of making money. It is all about making money in Russia and legitimazing it in the West.

BTW modern day organized crime in Russia has very little to do with violence it is all about economics.


I remember several month ago seeing something on TV about "russian mobster" Taivanchik- the guy who "pressured" french judge during figure skating competition. I don't know if anyone realizes it, but the situation is quite ironic:

An Uzbek national with an Israeli citizenship who is married to an Italian woman was pressuring French judge so she would help Russians win. Now that is an international cooperation.


P.S. In America there is mafia too, trust me, only it is legitimized and general populus is so brainwashed and dumb that it will never recognize it.

[StarvingStudent47]

As someone who lives in the hotspot of the world for mafias (NYC), i would have to agree with myself, therefore overruling your disagreement. ;)

Did Guiliani crack down on the mob like he cracked down on street crime? That could be a critical difference between NYC and Boston. To my knowledge, there's never been a serious crackdown on the mafia in the Boston metro area. The government and organized crime just kind of accept that each other exist.

[Damn]

Let the Hell's Angels burn em' all!

Badass bikers who dig harcore sh*t....That's what it's about.


p-)

[Royal]

The Albanian Mafia

[Roger Rabbit]

If the Albanian Mafia had a website then it would say their current location is in the south of Britain.

[NcDeuce]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/special_forces-afghanistan/Afghan2.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/uprising_at_mazar_e_sharif/286_G.jpg

I'll take this crew over any damn mafia, anyday.

[Italian Mafia Boss]

I just happened to come upon this when I was searching and Internet and I just had to say something. I am Italian, and I know for a fact that the Italian Mafia would win (I did not choose the Italian Mafia just because I'm Italian). The Italian Mafia DOES still exist, the only reason you don't hear much about it in the news is because they do their operations secretly now. Most of it is in Sicily, but there is still one in New York and I'm sure in much more other cities in the USA. The Italian Mafia is much more organized than the Russian Mafia which makes it an advantage. Just because the Russian Mafia has Military experience and more dangerous weapons doesn't make it automatically win. Because of the Italian Mafia being organized it would win. Being gun-ho like the Russian Mafia makes you lose. If you don't mess with the Italian Mafia they won't mess with you. Just a word of advice, don't get on the Italian Mafia's bad side.

[STIG]

dude .

[b0sco]

DUUUUDE.

..............

[Ulytau]

Italian Mafia been an icon more then Mafia ''Also if i know true they founded for resistance or something like that,not for crime''

About Russian Mafia ''I was looking about what Mafias are looking before''

When they have problem with someone,some men raping man who been problem for them one by one.. ''Maybe its not true''

[RomanS]

D Oo D ! ???

[Createdeemcee]

Frank Lukas would have all thier a$$e'$

p-)

Russians Make Great Criminal's!!

[ronnieraygun]

http://fragme.org/images/stupid/wtf-cat.jpg

[1911-a1]

The Italian Mafia


forgedaboudit!

[SBL]

Frank Lukas would have all thier a$$e'$

p-)

Russians Make Great Criminal's!!

Racist. Reported.

-edit-
Wow, this thread is really old.

[RomanS]

you guys want to see my mafia?

[The Dane]

Hells Angels ffs..!!

[...WARLORD...]

Italian Mob OR the Aryan Brotherhood!



1) The Godfather part 1

2) Reservoir Dogs

3) Scarface

[boone]

Just a word of advice, don't get on the Italian Mafia's bad side.
Or what.....? They're going to get all "Necro-post" on your ass?

dude!

[Ulytau]

What is about Yakuza ?

[Xaito]

Italian Mafia vs Russian mafia?
Sorry I don't have GTA4 so I can't answer that important question :(

[RomanS]

I just happened to come upon this when I was searching and Internet and I just had to say something. I am Italian, and I know for a fact that the Italian Mafia would win (I did not choose the Italian Mafia just because I'm Italian). The Italian Mafia DOES still exist, the only reason you don't hear much about it in the news is because they do their operations secretly now. Most of it is in Sicily, but there is still one in New York and I'm sure in much more other cities in the USA. The Italian Mafia is much more organized than the Russian Mafia which makes it an advantage. Just because the Russian Mafia has Military experience and more dangerous weapons doesn't make it automatically win. Because of the Italian Mafia being organized it would win. Being gun-ho like the Russian Mafia makes you lose. If you don't mess with the Italian Mafia they won't mess with you. Just a word of advice, don't get on the Italian Mafia's bad side.

wow, you want us to read all that?

Ever heard of http://kkaefer.com/files/tastatur-k.jpg BUTTON ?

It helps to spread the text apart

And Im Russian mafia by the way, dont mess with me!

[Fargin]

I just happened to come upon this when I was searching and Internet and I just had to say something. I am Italian, and I know for a fact that the Italian Mafia would win (I did not choose the Italian Mafia just because I'm Italian). The Italian Mafia DOES still exist, the only reason you don't hear much about it in the news is because they do their operations secretly now. Most of it is in Sicily, but there is still one in New York and I'm sure in much more other cities in the USA. The Italian Mafia is much more organized than the Russian Mafia which makes it an advantage. Just because the Russian Mafia has Military experience and more dangerous weapons doesn't make it automatically win. Because of the Italian Mafia being organized it would win. Being gun-ho like the Russian Mafia makes you lose. If you don't mess with the Italian Mafia they won't mess with you. Just a word of advice, don't get on the Italian Mafia's bad side.
1st post, digs a 5 year old thread up. Could someone please mess with this wisegay's custom user title. Pliis.

[Createdeemcee]

Racist. Reported.

-edit-
Wow, this thread is really old.


Cmon I dont need another label SBL

p-)

[1911-a1]

Italian Mafia Boss: You damn poser. You didn't earn the title "mafia boss" did you? Go back to airsoftItalia.com.

[Lov3ll]

The Russian mafia like totally pwned the Italians in GTA 4 p-)

[Thor]

Russian Mafia was strong because Yeltsin was weak.


Now they live in UK.


kthxbai

[bigvig]

But Italian mafia is educated(econommics, law,...

No. Semion Yudkovich Mogilevich.


He is nicknamed "The Brainy Don", because of his business abilities and because he holds a degree in economics from the Lviv University.

He even looks the part.

http://blog.kievukraine.info/uploaded_images/3045-770405.jpg

[RomanS]

Russian Mafia was strong because Yeltsin was weak.


Now they live in UK.


kthxbai

Swedish Mafia will fuk you up with Surstromming!

They gots the chemical weapon. One can of Surstromming, no matter if ex-Alfa or ex-Delta, you going down.

[ronnieraygun]

I just happened to come upon this when I was searching and Internet and I just had to say something. I am Italian, and I know for a fact that the Italian Mafia would win (I did not choose the Italian Mafia just because I'm Italian). The Italian Mafia DOES still exist, the only reason you don't hear much about it in the news is because they do their operations secretly now. Most of it is in Sicily, but there is still one in New York and I'm sure in much more other cities in the USA. The Italian Mafia is much more organized than the Russian Mafia which makes it an advantage. Just because the Russian Mafia has Military experience and more dangerous weapons doesn't make it automatically win. Because of the Italian Mafia being organized it would win. Being gun-ho like the Russian Mafia makes you lose. If you don't mess with the Italian Mafia they won't mess with you. Just a word of advice, don't get on the Italian Mafia's bad side.

Popcorn. Get your popcorn.

[Yaro]

Jewish mafia(read: elemental666 & his homo buddies)

[1911-a1]

Swedish Mafia will fuk you up with Surstromming!

They gots the chemical weapon. One can of Surstromming, no matter if ex-Alfa or ex-Delta, you going down.

The most hardcore swedish mafia group is the Jönssonligan.

In case you were wondering.

[ronnieraygun]

Swedish Mafia will fuk you up with Surstromming!

They gots the chemical weapon. One can of Surstromming, no matter if ex-Alfa or ex-Delta, you going down.

ja! Tre kronor ftw! you should smell my man-queefs after I eat knackebrod and pickled herring

[Eat a bullet]

This thread smells of old shoes.

[ronnieraygun]

The most hardcore swedish mafia group is the Jönssonligan.

In case you were wondering.

I am going to have to Netflix that **** now.

[Thor]

Swedish Mafia will fuk you up with Surstromming!

They gots the chemical weapon. One can of Surstromming, no matter if ex-Alfa or ex-Delta, you going down.
IKEA makes sure to buy upp all the stock.

And it's like with Norwegian women.

It tastes better than it smells.

[schwarz]

So I take it you no longer have to wait for your account to be apporved when you register?

[ronnieraygun]

IKEA make sure to buy upp all the stock.

And it's like with Norwegian women.

It tastes better than it smells.

I miss that musty Scandi-odor. It was always present at family reunions.

[Lt-Col A. Tack]

Yakuza FTW!

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1492/yakuzakn9.gif

"You have already voted on this poll"
Can't believe I forgot that!

[Andreas]

Italian Mafia been an icon more then Mafia ''Also if i know true they founded for resistance or something like that,not for crime''

About Russian Mafia ''I was looking about what Mafias are looking before''

When they have problem with someone,some men raping man who been problem for them one by one.. ''Maybe its not true''

Omega7 much?.....

[ghostdog]

Italian mafia ? ? ? rofl


Mafia = Sicilian criminal secret society .No more powerful as once ,almost all the heads are dead or in the jail .


'Ndrangheta = Calabrian criminal organization is one of the most powerful and ruthless organized crime organizations in Italy and World .
They control many political in the world and have their hands in the main building sectors of Italy ,Germany, England, Dutch, United States and much more .
They have accords with the smaller other organizations from the east Europe and Africa for drug,prostitution and clandestine immigration .

Camorra = is a mafia-like criminal organization , or secret society , in the region of Campania and the city of Naples .
They have many investimenits and relative influence in the stransports sector in many European countries and not ,their hands are in the sector of the renewable energies (An example the garbage recycle in the region of Campania ) .


The ITALIAN mafia does not exist .
These are not national organizations and don't find support in the whole territory .


Just my two cents for your culture .....

[ronnieraygun]

http://snowblack.org/gallery/main.php/d/779-2/Sk8nigs-Cocks_2.jpg


Poll: Who's your favorite ****?

[Aerosoul]

Italian Mafia been an icon more then Mafia ''Also if i know true they founded for resistance or something like that,not for crime''

About Russian Mafia ''I was looking about what Mafias are looking before''

When they have problem with someone,some men raping man who been problem for them one by one.. ''Maybe its not true''



http://pixjet.net/img/47d939563ed650a8ab510e52dfc0596c/lolwut.png

[ronnieraygun]

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5676/forpt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[RomanS]

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5676/forpt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dude what is wrong with you?

I have kids, and now they asking me what are these 2 ladies are doing!

[Aerosoul]

Jes' wrastlin'....

[RomanS]

Jes' wrastlin'....

Right ! you want to try to explain to my kids that?

[T3ngu]

Right ! you want to try to explain to my kids that?
Kids, its what they do when they go to university, its call wrestling. The other lady is just hiding a hole in the other ladies outfit.

My kids also ask wtf is going on at mp.net when they see some of the stuff posted here.

[RomanS]

I dont even have kids, but what if I did?

Any other angles of this photo by the way?

[Dodge]

Italians hands down.

[Fargin]

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2494/forpt9mw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I happen to agree with Roman, so I took the liberty to moderate you pix.

[RomanS]

How did you do this Fargin?

[Fargin]

Go into User CP, Edit Options, Enable Auto-OPSEC.

[domokun]

My kids also ask wtf is going on at mp.net when they see some of the stuff posted here.

Mp.net is the most normal community in teh interweb, everything that happens here is normal, move along theres nothing to see here. Or is it?

Over mafia question, Russia strong!!!!!11!!11!!oneoneone!! It's only way it can be said in this environment considering local memes.

[Thor]

I miss that musty Scandi-odor. It was always present at family reunions.
The smell creates havoc in my brain, it's absolutely revolting while at the same time very inviting.


The ITALIAN mafia does not exist .
Dude... We know you people don't like to talk about it, and that you refer to it as "cosa nostra". But the rest of us have eyes to see with and can't be fooled.


http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7289/tonyandagoomarauo9.jpg

[RomanS]

Go into User CP, Edit Options, Enable Auto-OPSEC.

got it, thanks man

[Yaro]

GUYZ,
What the hell happened to Dennis G? (threadstarter)
....he's been missing.

[RomanS]

GUYZ,
What the hell happened to Dennis G? (threadstarter)
....he's been missing.

reported !

[Yaro]

I hope Dennis is OK.

[PeterRJG]

http://www.aesedra.com/ljcrap/forreal.jpg

[stonecutter]

Let the pigs slaughter each other, then pull a Mussolini and eliminate the rest. How's that sound? Fvkicng scum.

[Hutz]

Chinese tirads FTW. They know kung-fu, 'nough said.

[RomanS]

Chinese tirads FTW. They know kung-fu, 'nough said.

Will the Kung-Fu help them once logs start flying?

[California Joe]

I could never figure out why David Chase or the producers thought anyone wanted to see fat, gross Tony Soprano humping hot broads every f*cking episode with his stained wifebeater on, grunting and sweating and sh*t.

[domokun]

Chinese tirads FTW. They know kung-fu, 'nough said.

What about yakuza and their wakizashi's. Slice and dice.p-)

[Hutz]

What about yakuza and their wakizashi's. Slice and dice.p-)

Only if Omega's the leader (which I suspect).

CJ's got a point, but I tend to look at the women and not T.

[mudbunny]

La Cosa Nostra (Italian Mafia) saw it's rise to power directly from Sicily and the centralized nature of the Italian neighborhoods during the influx of immigrants into NYC in the early parts of the 20th century. It was also seen two-fold, as a strongarm branch of these communities to provide protection against the Irish, WASP's, Chinese (La Cosa Nostra= Our Thing). The people in these communities saw them as protection, their military if you will. The Italian-American community doesn't like to hear it, but they're as guilty for the rise of the mafia as any particular member. These members were protected by the IA community.
Their downfall has coincided with the disbursement and intermixing, neighborhood-wise, of Italian-Americans with other ethnicities. Todays members don't have a code of honor like the old-timers because they're not really representing an enclosed world anymore, and have become more "Americanized" if you will.
Giuliani's RICO cases against the New York crime families also played a big part in the disappearance.
You guys know what "FBI" stands for right?
-Forever Bug the Italians-
The Russians on the other hand are a very, very nasty breed. They have no scruples and that bleeds over into their rules and values and who they will or will not deal with.
They're big time players in the illegal arms trade and have become very good at funneling all kinds of sh!t from former Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact nations to the ports and big cities all over the world.

[boone]

I could never figure out why David Chase or the producers thought anyone wanted to see fat, gross Tony Soprano humping hot broads every f*cking episode with his stained wifebeater on, grunting and sweating and sh*t.
Because it perpetuated the fantasy that it was possible for d-bags like me to do the same.

[mudbunny]

I could never figure out why David Chase or the producers thought anyone wanted to see fat, gross Tony Soprano humping hot broads every f*cking episode with his stained wifebeater on, grunting and sweating and sh*t.

Honestly, I've tried to watch that show but there's just something about it that keeps it from digging it's claws into me. I think it's James Gandolfini. The guy just doesn't do it for me.

[Hutz]

Honestly, I've tried to watch that show but there's just something about it that keeps it from digging it's claws into me. I think it's James Gandolfini. The guy just doesn't do it for me.

Just watch it for Pauly Walnuts.

[schwarz]

Just watch it for Pauly Walnuts.


x2rofl............

[RomanS]

I thought in Sopranos season 3 "Pine Barrens" it was settled, Italian Mafia cant handle snow, and running after Russian commando who killed 16 Czechoslovakians single handed, and was an interior decorator. His house looked like sheit though.

[Hutz]

I thought in Sopranos season 3 "Pine Barrens" it was settled, Italian Mafia cant handle snow, and running after Russian commando who killed 16 Czechoslovakians single handed, and was an interior decorator. His house looked like sheit though.

X2, they lose one shoe and game over.

[mudbunny]

The Russian Mafia women are a very gaudy bunch though. You can spot them a mile away.

[mudbunny]

I thought in Sopranos season 3 "Pine Barrens" it was settled, Italian Mafia cant handle snow, and running after Russian commando who killed 16 Czechoslovakians single handed, and was an interior decorator. His house looked like sheit though.

Is that the one where they were eating packets of ketchup in their car, and nearly freezing to death?

[Italian Mafia Boss]

Why is everyone saying "dude"?

[schwarz]

Is that the one where they were eating packets of ketchup in their car, and nearly freezing to death?

Yea, then Pauly got pissed and shot his shoe.

[Hutz]

Why is everyone saying "dude"?

Dude, what?

[mudbunny]

Yea, then Pauly got pissed and shot his shoe.

What's Stevie Van Zandt's characters name? I can't remember it.

[Hutz]

What's Stevie Van Zandt's characters name? I can't remember it.

Silvio Dante.

[dimasorokine]

Economically the Italians have the Russians beat. The money they rake in every year from Vegas and Reno alone is probobly more than the Russians make a year (yes they still do business there, just look at all the gaming commissioners, they're Italian). Like one other person commented here, I too, have lived in an Italian mafia neighborhood in Pittsburgh and I can tell you that the mafia is alive and well. The FBI and news reporters always say that the mafia does not exist anymore or that they are in hard times..bla bla bla. Didn't J. Edgar Hoover believe that the mafia never existed and even claim that publically?

Militarily and in a fight, my money would go on the Russians. I mean it has been documented that these guys sell nuclear weapons on the black market. They also do employ for Specialy Forces soldiers as hitmen and other interesting jobs.

Thats one of the biggest mistakes I've ever heard :) If you put together all the Russian crime groups they probably make more in a month than the Italians make in a decade - especially in the 90's when up 80% (!) of Russia's economy was controlled by organized crime. In fact, most rich Russians (including all the billionares) have very strong ties to organized crime...

When it comes to money, I don't think anyone has Russian / former soviet organized crime groups beat.

-Dima

PS: Scarface, Donnie Brasko, Good Fellas, Godfather, Casino, Blow - all awesome movies.

[frankie]

http://fragme.org/images/stupid/wtf-cat.jpg

Dood........That is one seriously wet pussy

[Alfacentori]

Can someone tell me if it is the Italian or Russian Mafia that wear D3lta Oakleys so I can vote?

Thanks p-)

Alfa

[PeterRJG]

Why is everyone saying "dude"?

WTF dude???

[mudbunny]

Can someone tell me if it is the Italian or Russian Mafia that wear D3lta Oakleys so I can vote?

Thanks p-)

Alfa

Choke Yourself.

[schwarz]

...................................

[Alfacentori]

Choke Yourself.

Lighten up.........dude!

Alfa

[Hutz]

Choke Yourself.

Guy, as if. Duuuude.

[mudbunny]

Lighten up.........dude!

Alfa

Dude.........choke yourself.

[California Joe]

I thought in Sopranos season 3 "Pine Barrens" it was settled, Italian Mafia cant handle snow, and running after Russian commando who killed 16 Czechoslovakians single handed, and was an interior decorator. His house looked like sheit though.

That was my favorite episode ever. F*cking Pauly.

[Alfacentori]

Dude.........choke yourself.

I tried, got tired............dude

Alfa

[mudbunny]

I tried, got tired............dude

Alfa

alright.............let's go have a beer.

[Alfacentori]

alright.............let's go have a beer.

Amen to that

Alfa

[deagle]

triads will mess you up

bloods/crips will mess you up

MS13/Cartels will mess you up

italians will mess you up

russians will mess you up

[PeterRJG]

triads will mess you up

bloods/crips will mess you up

MS13/Cartels will mess you up

italians will mess you up

russians will mess you up

Vengeful ex's with a pair of bolt cutters will mess you up.

[Italian Mafia Boss]

None of you people realize how dangerous Cosa Nostra (Italian Mafia) can be if you get on their bad side. For all you racist b*****s out there who are hating Italians, you better watch yourself, because Cosa Nostra will find you (I'm not a real Italian Mafia Boss, and I don't claim to be, I'm not even in the Mafia, but I do know a lot about it and I know that if you get on their bad side, they will f**k you up).

[Eat a bullet]

There's no such thing as the mafia, dude.

[PeterRJG]

^^^

Why is this guy still here?

Edit. Bah, the guy above Eat A bullet. ;)

[Bia]

None of you people realize how dangerous Cosa Nostra (Italian Mafia) can be if you get on their bad side. For all you racist b*****s out there who are hating Italians, you better watch yourself, because Cosa Nostra will find you (I'm not a real Italian Mafia Boss, and I don't claim to be, I'm not even in the Mafia, but I do know a lot about it and I know that if you get on their bad side, they will f**k you up).


WOPS....

lmao :P

[TR1]

None of you people realize how dangerous Cosa Nostra (Italian Mafia) can be if you get on their bad side. For all you racist b*****s out there who are hating Italians, you better watch yourself, because Cosa Nostra will find you (I'm not a real Italian Mafia Boss, and I don't claim to be, I'm not even in the Mafia, but I do know a lot about it and I know that if you get on their bad side, they will f**k you up).

I am trembling in fear of their un-naturally good fashion for straight men.

[Eztyga]

See the problem with the Russian Mafia? All pissed up to the eyeballs on wodka, and they get the whole cement boots thing wrong...:cantbeli:

Ezy

[JJC]

This thread is cool!! lol

[Hollis]

See the problem with the Russian Mafia? All pissed up to the eyeballs on wodka, and they get the whole cement boots thing wrong...:cantbeli:

Ezy


Well yeah, but the Russian are having a lot more fun at it.

[DaveDash]

I live in Melbourne (Australia), and the Italian Mafia is alive and well here, particulary in the cafe business around Melbourne. Eating at some prominent cafe chains are like being in Sopranos some times.

Back in Auckland, the Russian "Mafia" (organised crime) was relatively prominent along with the triads. They all mostly kept to themselves - Not even the Russians would ever want to step on the toes of the local Maori gangs.

[Backwoodshunter]

Are you talking gangs, as in smaller groups like someone mentioned the maoris, crips, bloods, or the local italian mob involved in cafes are very unlikely to be involved in big time organized crime.

Now when it comes to bigger higher level operations, the Italians organization is based on familes and family ties, alot more respect and honor involved. This is similar to the jewish mobs that sprung up late 80s early 90s. But their main downfall is their structure families are alot easier to crack as the hierarchy and rank are alot easier to see and follow. Plus the fact is they're also more susceptable to losing themselves and discipline in vendettas and such, risking the heat from the law and just becoming embroiled in violence due to the ties the family members have.

Meanwhile Russians and eastern Europeans I'd say are alittle more professional, all the theives in law(Vory v zakone) are alot more based on money than anything else. Even alot of their respective leaders and delegates were hired based on experience(mainly prison time and ties) because they're best at negotiating and brokering deals. Plus alot of the Russian mafia, unlike they're Italian counterparts, have some rich mother****ers backing them, much richer than their italian counterparts could hope to be(the oligarchs from the fall of the ussr). Plus alot of the Russians and Eastern European gangs also have whole countries and governments that are very criminal friendly(Dubai, Transnistria).

So personally I'd have to say the Russians have alot of major advantages and are probably alot more likely to be dangerous or have gone international and can keep themselves going, than the Italians are.

[ghostdog]

The ITALIAN mafia does not exist .

Dude... We know you people don't like to talk about it, and that you refer to it as "cosa nostra". But the rest of us have eyes to see with and can't be fooled.



Dude first read better my post and only later give me an answer .





AGAIN:


Italian mafia ? ? ? rofl


Mafia = Sicilian criminal secret society .No more powerful as once ,almost all the heads are dead or in the jail .


'Ndrangheta = Calabrian criminal organization is one of the most powerful and ruthless organized crime organizations in Italy and World .
They control many political in the world and have their hands in the main building sectors of Italy ,Germany, England, Dutch, United States and much more .
They have accords with the smaller other organizations from the east Europe and Africa for drug,prostitution and clandestine immigration .

Camorra = is a mafia-like criminal organization , or secret society , in the region of Campania and the city of Naples .
They have many investimenits and relative influence in the stransports sector in many European countries and not ,their hands are in the sector of the renewable energies (An example the garbage recycle in the region of Campania ) .


The ITALIAN mafia does not exist .
These are not national organizations and don't find support in the whole territory .


Just my two cents for your culture .....







http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/7289/tonyandagoomarauo9.jpg

Your are enough fooled than you know if you cite Soprano's as an example .
The typical american mass media product for the buncs .
In italy we look Soprano's like Mr.bean but more amusing .


Ah ! another secret :
The cannoli are from Sicily ,you can't try it in every place in Italy .
Remember that when you'll switch off your cable television to look the world through your eyes

[Loke-Gao-Zhu]

There is no Italian Mafia but the Russian Mafia, and Putin is its Godfather

[PeterRJG]

There is no Italian Mafia but the Russian Mafia, and Putin is its Godfather

OK mods, this thread can be locked now. Master Discombobulator has added his two kopecks. No more can be said.

[ronnieraygun]

The cannoli are from Sicily ,you can't try it in every place in Italy .
Remember that when you'll switch off your cable television to look the world through your eyes


Yup. But please understand there are still people who do it this way who learned from their dads who learned from their grandads. It's still around, but it's distinctly American and most of their kids/grandkids are college educated. It's smaller and does not resemble what you see in the movies. Please don't misunderstand that it's all a movie cleverly constructed.

As far as the Camorra is concerned, well...times change. I have a civilized friend who apparently has uncivilized Naboli-Daboli (sorry about the Sopranos reference) cousins. It's a big world.

Hey man...any dude who has Mr. T. for an avatar can be my Godfodda any day of the week.

[PanzerMaster]

PanzerMaster is now involved in this thread woot.

I must say that the true Cannoli (those big pastries with "ricotta") are typically Sicilian, but in many bar/cafeteria you can find some cream filled cannoli for breakfast and there are also smaller "Pope's D|ick" (slang names) pastries... also cream filled.

Is not uncommon, though, to have bakeries producing ethnic pastries like cannoli all around Italy

[ghostdog]

Hey man...any dude who has Mr. T. for an avatar can be my Godfodda any day of the week.


:hug: :-D .

http://gendou.com/crap/mrtvs/naruto/mr-t-vs-naruto-1.jpg

[Creampuff]

I live in Melbourne (Australia), and the Italian Mafia is alive and well here, particulary in the cafe business around Melbourne. Eating at some prominent cafe chains are like being in Sopranos some times.

Back in Auckland, the Russian "Mafia" (organised crime) was relatively prominent along with the triads. They all mostly kept to themselves - Not even the Russians would ever want to step on the toes of the local Maori gangs.

Bro those gangs are multiracial, the days of NZ 's gangs having exclusively Maori members are long gone. And they are becoming increasingly more violent with a capital V underlined twice.

[Italian Mafia Boss]

WOPS....

lmao :P

:fork::bash::-*$:backhand::slap:
RACIST

[California Joe]

Your are enough fooled than you know if you cite Soprano's as an example .
The typical american mass media product for the buncs .
In italy we look Soprano's like Mr.bean but more amusing .

Yeah, we're all fooled and think the Sopranos is a documentary. :roll: We're all dazzled by your insider knowledge.

Blow me.

[California Joe]

:fork::bash::-*$:backhand::slap:
RACIST


You. Shut up. Go find some other thread to post in. But if it's 5 years old I'm going to ban you.

[Italian Mafia Boss]

Go ahead ban me, then I can report you for banning for know reason and not removing racist posts to the other Admins, your choice.

[TR1]

you sir, are a moron.

[Raptus_regaliter]

Go ahead ban me, then I can report you for banning for know reason and not removing racist posts to the other Admins, your choice.

You gunna git raped.

[junglejim]

Go ahead ban me, then I can report you for banning for know reason and not removing racist posts to the other Admins, your choice.


I got some infractions and two suspensions, but damn kid your pushing it.

Maybe he is just trying to show us his badass mafia side... they back down from nobody. So I heard

[California Joe]

Go ahead ban me, then I can report you for banning for know reason and not removing racist posts to the other Admins, your choice.

We took a vote and they already hate you. The only reason you're still here is because I'm too lazy to go into the admin panel. Shut your cockholster.

[The Balkan]

Anytime you have gangsters that were in wars or ex-soldiers it's bad news. Same reason the Albanian mafia and other Balkan criminals is merking the Italians in new York right now. Same reason the mafia in italy chose to cooperate with the Balkan criminals insted of go to war with them. Russians would eat 'em.

[Italian Mafia Boss]

I got some infractions and two suspensions, but damn kid your pushing it.

Maybe he is just trying to show us his badass mafia side... they back down from nobody. So I heard

Exactly, the Mafia backs down from nobody. These days the Mafia is all about drugs and ****, but in the old days which I miss, Cosa Nostra was good and helped people out. But the stupid Americanized version La Cosa Nostra got involved in drugs and led to it's downfall, but the original Cosa Nostra still exists today in Sicily and is trying to make the world a better place like they did in the old days.

[Aerosoul]

Where do you get your information?

[Italian Mafia Boss]

We took a vote and they already hate you. The only reason you're still here is because I'm too lazy to go into the admin panel. Shut your cockholster.

:fork::bash::-*$:backhand::slap:
I don't give a ****, ban me, the only reason I joined was just to express my opinion, I don't care if you ban me, **** you.

[Aerosoul]

Ciao baby.

[junglejim]

Where do you get your information?

Ah he is an Italian Mafia Boss you know.:roll:

[California Joe]

:fork::bash::-*$:backhand::slap:
I don't give a ****, ban me, the only reason I joined was just to express my opinion, I don't care if you ban me, **** you.

You joined a Military forum to post in a 5 year old topic about the Mafia that was a joke in the first place. Pretty bright guy. No great loss.

[Bia]

You ****in racist bitch. If the Mafia saw that they'd really **** you up **** sucking mother ****ing bitch.

hheheh... I made someone wet their pampers!

:P

[ghostdog]

Yeah, we're all fooled and think the Sopranos is a documentary. :roll: We're all dazzled by your insider knowledge.

Blow me.


No fellow i give you a 5 kilos jar of nutella and i'll force you to eat all the cream in only one hour ,this will be my punishment in italian style .
Ah ah ah the world is mine ! ....:roll:


http://mt14.quickshareit.com/share/foto9272b0.jpg
http://mt13.quickshareit.com/share/foto10056be.jpg

[RomanS]

That Italian Boss guy had a temper huh

[nagant_m44]

None of you people realize how dangerous Cosa Nostra (Italian Mafia) can be if you get on their bad side. For all you racist b*****s out there who are hating Italians, you better watch yourself, because Cosa Nostra will find you (I'm not a real Italian Mafia Boss, and I don't claim to be, I'm not even in the Mafia, but I do know a lot about it and I know that if you get on their bad side, they will f**k you up).

Guineas and dagos do make good food.

[nagant_m44]

No fellow i give you a 5 kilos jar of nutella and i'll force you to eat all the cream in only one hour ,this will be my punishment in italian style .
Ah ah ah the world is mine ! ....:roll:


http://mt14.quickshareit.com/share/foto9272b0.jpg
http://mt13.quickshareit.com/share/foto10056be.jpg

nutella is great on bagels.

[grabie_bis]

Exactly, the Mafia backs down from nobody. These days the Mafia is all about drugs and ****, but in the old days which I miss, Cosa Nostra was good and helped people out. But the stupid Americanized version La Cosa Nostra got involved in drugs and led to it's downfall, but the original Cosa Nostra still exists today in Sicily and is trying to make the world a better place like they did in the old days.

LOL, tell the magistrates killed by friendly cosa nostra peaceful members!

wtf, this is sick!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/EDVINO/noob.jpg

[mudbunny]

Exactly, the Mafia backs down from nobody. These days the Mafia is all about drugs and ****, but in the old days which I miss, Cosa Nostra was good and helped people out. But the stupid Americanized version La Cosa Nostra got involved in drugs and led to it's downfall, but the original Cosa Nostra still exists today in Sicily and is trying to make the world a better place like they did in the old days.

You miss the old days? LOL, who are you, Abe Vigoda?

[Creampuff]

For Gucci dapper and well dressed gangsters the Italians get my vote for don't mess with!! well guess the Russians are fast filling that niche.

[ronnieraygun]

Nutella? No way. I had this girl eat it out my ass in college and I didn't have to pretend I was mobbed up.

What a great ****ing thread. I'm so proud of everyone.

[kinney_bmx]

:fork::bash::-*$:backhand::slap:
I don't give a ****, ban me, the only reason I joined was just to express my opinion, I don't care if you ban me, **** you.
....Wow...just wow roflrofl

[IanSolo]

Ittaliano pissa spachetti maffia mandolino

and also

ma vaffanculo

[superbuzzmetal]

Holland mafia is better.

[ghostdog]

Ittaliano pissa spachetti maffia mandolino

and also

ma vaffanculo

roflroflroflroflrofl

[Eat a bullet]

Holland mafia is better.
Va fa Napoli.

[DID]

What we understand by Russian Vs Italy? put them in a stadium and let them shoot together? or what.
I think it's not realistic to made this kind of relation ( amazing for sure) because there is no geographical link. We now that mafia is famous for being implanted in local population ( Italy) so what they would do in Russia and same for Russians, they have their own area and making business on it.

[Bacon]

Nice necro post genius.

[DID]

Those Ak 45 Vs. M16 threads always make me laugh...
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?75719-F-22-raptor-Vs-Messerschmitt-Bf-109

[zapatero]

70 years of soviet system make anyone a big, bad, mean, fat mofo. I bet on the Ruskies.

[1911-a1]

Those Ak 45 Vs. M16

Fuggedaboutit!