Mexicans chanting "Osama, Osama" at recent World C

[SerbPVO]

This happend at the World Cup qualifying game a few days ago, against USA in Mexico City. SOme 100.000+ people chanted "Osama, Osama".

I was wondering, what do Americans think about this...?

For those who care, Mexico won.

[BlackRain]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

[b33f]

They can say what ever they please. Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl rofl rofl

Good one.

[PrincessRAR]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

heh dude I fell off my chair, thanks for that one mate.

[Macs.]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol: rofl

[CG51]

rofl badda bing!

[ramy]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl

nice one

[goldman]

They can say what ever they please. Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl rofl rofl

Good one.
rofl rofl rofl

[VAC]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

Thanks I just spit Coke all over my monitor!! rofl rofl

[Stormy]

HAHAHA! classic.. :lol:

[He219]

They can say what ever they please. Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl rofl rofl

Good one.
rofl rofl rofl
x2

[manuel]

dude common that was kinda tasteless... the "mexican" cleaning your pool is either

A) A U.S. Citizen
B) an illegal immigrant who had enough mind to leave mexico and come to the United States.

[jaybird13]

Didnt they do that last world cup, or soccer game?

p.s Batista beats HHH for the World championship belt!!

[TuNeRsHaRk]

theyre just mad because we placed an extra 30 miles of barbed wire on the border ;)

[usm2b]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:


sorry... I need fresh grapes for my wine, that comes first! p-)

[Vance]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[He219]

dude common that was kinda tasteless....
It was kinda tasteless for them to cheer for Osama in the first place ..
;)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Damn they play DIRTY. Have any of you seen that match? The american team sure has a lot of self restraint. They kept shoving americna players and the referee didnt do ****.

[usa320]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:


rofl rofl


i knew that asshole i pay 15 cents an hour to do my cleaning was an osama lover....

[Aerosoul]

dude common that was kinda tasteless....
It was kinda tasteless for them to cheer for Osama in the first place ..
;)

Exactly what I was gonna say. Minus the "kinda."

[moughoun]

it's football........if this is the worst thing that happenes at a match the US is involved in count your selves lucky, go down to Argentina they throw sharpend lawn dart's at each other, or the Italian's who on occasion throw sccoter's from the top terraces down, or the Dutch who have mass fight's, and not pussy fight's, weapon's are an obligation, organised before every game ect ect, it's football and it's great p-)

[Aerosoul]

This isn't about fans going ballistic on each other. it's about Mexicans taunting Americans ona subject they obviously don't give a flying **** about. 3,000 people died that day. Those who chanted "Osama, Osama" should say it to the victims' families. I'd love to be there. And I'd love to kick their ****ing asses.

[moughoun]

This isn't about fans going ballistic on each other. it's about Mexicans taunting Americans ona subject they obviously don't give a flying f*** about. 3,000 people died that day. Those who chanted "Osama, Osama" should say it to the victims' families. I'd love to be there. And I'd love to kick their f*** asses.

I'm going to guess you haven't been to too many game's, it's all bs, but all you got was a bunch of retard's chanting, it could have been much worse

[DPGLAW]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

Dont forget that aside from cleaning our pools, they need to mow the lawns and wash our dishes for $1 an hour. That is pretty much what many, if not most, of them amount to in their lives. I have a stong feeling that they are chanting Osama mostly out of sheer jealously of our CIVILIZED way of life, something that they have to look over the border and see every day.

[GAFES]

Its easy to insult people in the internet. p-)

[manuel]

dude common that was kinda tasteless....
It was kinda tasteless for them to cheer for Osama in the first place ..
;)

read my whole post i was eluding to the fact that the mexican cleaning his pool has nothing to do with mexican nationals saying osama

the "mexicans" cleaning your pools, picking your grapes, and mowing your lawns are in fact in the U.S. for a reason.... belittling them is in no way parallel to making fun of mexican nationals in mexico city.

[mr.chips]

This isn't about fans going ballistic on each other. it's about Mexicans taunting Americans ona subject they obviously don't give a flying f*** about. 3,000 people died that day. Those who chanted "Osama, Osama" should say it to the victims' families. I'd love to be there. And I'd love to kick their f*** asses.

I strongly agree.

[von_Moo142]

This isn't about fans going ballistic on each other. it's about Mexicans taunting Americans ona subject they obviously don't give a flying f*** about. 3,000 people died that day. Those who chanted "Osama, Osama" should say it to the victims' families. I'd love to be there. And I'd love to kick their f*** asses.

There are any amount of tasteless football songs and chants. "Who's that dying on the runway" immediately springs to mind.


Who's that dying on the runway?
Who's that dying in the snow?
It's Matt Busby and his boys
making such a f ucking noise
coz they can't get their aeroplane to go!


I don't think that one has been sung for a few years now, but it was once. And if you want worse, you should look up some of the sectarian songs.



As Moug. hinted at, look up the Heysel disaster (pretty topical at the moment since LFC and Juve are playing each other in the Cl soon).

[ElHombre]

This happend at the World Cup qualifying game a few days ago, against USA in Mexico City. SOme 100.000+ people chanted "Osama, Osama".

and anglo-americans calling them 'wet-backs', 'pool-cleaners', 'dirty spics' and other assorted slurs for the past hundred years or so.

my fellow americans, welcome to the world outside of your borders. specifically, the world of soccer (football, whatever...).

[SeanAshi]

This happend at the World Cup qualifying game a few days ago, against USA in Mexico City. SOme 100.000+ people chanted "Osama, Osama".

I was wondering, what do Americans think about this...?

For those who care, Mexico won.
This happened last year. But it was in bad taste. And Mexico won because they were the better team.

[mi35d]

Meanwhile, can American fans say crap like, "Wetbacks, die!"?

[CG51]

Meanwhile, can American fans say crap like, "Wetbacks, die!"?

naw, thats a direct racial slur...

you could bring up the mexico city earthquake of 1985...

[Kilgor]

This happend at the World Cup qualifying game a few days ago, against USA in Mexico City. SOme 100.000+ people chanted "Osama, Osama".

and anglo-americans calling them 'wet-backs', 'pool-cleaners', 'dirty spics' and other assorted slurs for the past hundred years or so.

my fellow americans, welcome to the world outside of your borders. specifically, the world of soccer (football, whatever...).

The world where its always america's fault. Got ya..

moving on.

[Zorro C9]

I see the chant has had the intended effect. No wonder the Yanks lost on the day.

[AmericanImperialist]

dude common that was kinda tasteless....
It was kinda tasteless for them to cheer for Osama in the first place ..
;)

read my whole post i was eluding to the fact that the mexican cleaning his pool has nothing to do with mexican nationals saying osama

the "mexicans" cleaning your pools, picking your grapes, and mowing your lawns are in fact in the U.S. for a reason.... belittling them is in no way parallel to making fun of mexican nationals in mexico city.

in many cases the mexicans cleaning our pools and mowing our lawns are Mexican nationals.

[AmericanImperialist]

Meanwhile, can American fans say crap like, "Wetbacks, die!"?

naw, thats a direct racial slur...

you could bring up the mexico city earthquake of 1985...
Despite body counts, that doesn't even really compare to mocking 9/11.

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl

[EvanL]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl
trim my hedges miguel!
Ondaley!

[GeraldDuval]

Why do the Mexicans have a terrible olympic team?

Because all the best runners, jumpers, and swimmers are in America!

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl
trim my hedges miguel!
Ondaley!

yes senior

[obd]

Hey guys lets please not forget the hundreds of Mexican Americans fighting and dying bravely in Iraq for thier country = The United States.

They arnt fighting for Mexico........they arnt dying for Mexico...........they arnt wearing Mexican flags...........its all American.

When you guys stoop to the level of idiocy that was displayed by certain Mexican soccer fans (and lets remmember that soccer fans arnt generally the most well behaved demographic of any society) and you insult poor hard working legal Mexican Americans who do clean your pools..........it really is just as insulting to them as the Osama chant is to you.


Really you guys insult many of the very young men fighting for you in Iraq right now...........You dont even have to agree with why they are there (I dont).........but you really should support the troops who are fighitng within the law, within moral bounds, etc............They deserve alot more than to be called our "pool boys"...........I wonder how many of thier fathers cleaned pools and did other low wage labor so that thier son/daughter could grow up a proud American willing to sign up and risk all in defense of nation.............I wonder how many of the 18-21 year olds were pool boys themselves before they signed up..........

Before you guys start poking fun at immigrant labor I suggest you dig up your own roots and find out what your great grandfathers and mothers had to go through when they came to America.....b/c I'd bet the farm that alot of them had similar, if not worse, experiences then todays Mexican immigrants.........I'd bet they worked for less, in ****ier conditions, and for people who laughed at them and belittled them just as you are in the position to do now........and not only that but your immigrant kin were probably viewed at one time as enemies of the nation without "proper moral values" ......which was all just code and cover for biggoted hatred and racism........

you really ought to be ashamed of yourselves.........Just about every immigrant group was "enemy number one" at one time or another in American history. Irish, german, chinese, italian, japanses, even a large chunk of the English during the Revolution etc........all were at times feared, hated, and looked down upon by other so called Americans.............Just remmember that next time you laugh at the Mexican cleaning your pool........

[PCarola]

Funny how all Mexicans are pool cleaners, hahaha, were my family owns a multi million $$$ company and probably employs some of your parents... rofl ....Like Moughoun said its only a game,sometimes distasteful yes, but only a game...What is not funny is the bigotry on this board, which seems to come from alot of the members...anywho...

[Milkman]

Silly mexican we were just having some fun with your racial background! Nothing to take seriously, noone listens to us white folk anymore. Props for playing the rich card on us though, must make us think even more highly of you... :roll:

[GAFES]

Well with all this insults i just learned who the americans are, and why you are hated around the world. I just hope never hear some of you insulting my country in my face, because when that day comes i will cut your genitals with a machete. I have had enough patience with you, this is my last participation in this forum, Where i thought people from around the world were welcome.

[Milkman]

Wow some people take things way too seriously on internet forums.

[Ratamacue]

Well with all this insults i just learned who the americans are, and why you are hated around the world. I just hope never hear some of you insulting my country in my face, because when that day comes i will cut your genitals with a machete. I have had enough patience with you, this is my last participation in this forum, Where i thought people from around the world were welcome.
If you're going to use the morons on this forum as the basis for your judgment that Americans are racist, then I certainly won't miss you dude.

[SeanAshi]

Hey guys lets please not forget the hundreds of Mexican Americans fighting and dying bravely in Iraq for thier country = The United States.

They arnt fighting for Mexico........they arnt dying for Mexico...........they arnt wearing Mexican flags...........its all American.

When you guys stoop to the level of idiocy that was displayed by certain Mexican soccer fans (and lets remmember that soccer fans arnt generally the most well behaved demographic of any society) and you insult poor hard working legal Mexican Americans who do clean your pools..........it really is just as insulting to them as the Osama chant is to you.


Really you guys insult many of the very young men fighting for you in Iraq right now...........You dont even have to agree with why they are there (I dont).........but you really should support the troops who are fighitng within the law, within moral bounds, etc............They deserve alot more than to be called our "pool boys"...........I wonder how many of thier fathers cleaned pools and did other low wage labor so that thier son/daughter could grow up a proud American willing to sign up and risk all in defense of nation.............I wonder how many of the 18-21 year olds were pool boys themselves before they signed up..........

Before you guys start poking fun at immigrant labor I suggest you dig up your own roots and find out what your great grandfathers and mothers had to go through when they came to America.....b/c I'd bet the farm that alot of them had similar, if not worse, experiences then todays Mexican immigrants.........I'd bet they worked for less, in ****ier conditions, and for people who laughed at them and belittled them just as you are in the position to do now........and not only that but your immigrant kin were probably viewed at one time as enemies of the nation without "proper moral values" ......which was all just code and cover for biggoted hatred and racism........

you really ought to be ashamed of yourselves.........Just about every immigrant group was "enemy number one" at one time or another in American history. Irish, german, chinese, italian, japanses, even a large chunk of the English during the Revolution etc........all were at times feared, hated, and looked down upon by other so called Americans.............Just remmember that next time you laugh at the Mexican cleaning your pool........I don't normally agree with you obd but your right on this one. The racial slurs are uncalled for and childish.

[SeanAshi]

Well with all this insults i just learned who the americans are, and why you are hated around the world. I just hope never hear some of you insulting my country in my face, because when that day comes i will cut your genitals with a machete. I have had enough patience with you, this is my last participation in this forum, Where i thought people from around the world were welcome.
Don't leave GAFES don't let the comments of a few run you out. I was like most when I heard of the "osama chants" I was angry but I got over it after all it was part just part of the game to throw the Americans off.

[Chacon]

I am Mexican American, and in no way do I condone what the fans were chanting at the stadium. I do find it very funny how a stupid game brings out the idiots and bigots on this board. I seem to remember that there have been plenty of football, and basketball games at college towns where riots broke out afterwards. Do these people represent all Americans?

[Milkman]

Well with all this insults i just learned who the americans are, and why you are hated around the world. I just hope never hear some of you insulting my country in my face, because when that day comes i will cut your genitals with a machete. I have had enough patience with you, this is my last participation in this forum, Where i thought people from around the world were welcome.
Don't leave GAFES don't let the comments of a few run you out. I was like most when I heard of the "osama chants" I was angry but I got over it after all it was part just part of the game to throw the Americans off.
No let him leave, hes stupid enough to judge 300 million people based on comments by a few members on a internet forum. Ironically, he stereotyped us.

[obd]

GAFES, I am an American by the way..........just living in NZ.........and I must say that I for one think that Mexicans are one of the best groups of people I know. (positive stereotype hehe).

I live in an area with a high Mexican immigrant population and I am blown away by how friendly they are.......even though my area of the states is full of racists and biggots who treat them like ****.....they still just shrug it off and smile.

(example: whites have attacked two gas stations in my town: One was owned by a Mexican and the other by an Indian who they just assumed was a Muslum because of his skin color). On the Indians they spray painted "Revenge for 911" and on the Mexicans "No More Illegals" so its obvious what thier motives were............The sad thing is that the Mexican guy was an upstanding citizen who donatd to local charity and the Indian guy was a long time small buisness owner who never did anything to hurt anyone...........

I tell you this: I have never met a stranger so freindly to me as a Mexican.

One night my car broke down in a rural area.........I had no cell phone on me........I walked to a random house........nocked on door at 11:30.........a Mexican opened it.......invited me in for beers and pizza........He was throwing a B-day party for his friend who had just legally arrived in the states on his B-day no less. They also let me try every single one of the special Mexican dishes each of the guests had brought to welcome the brother. It was awesome. He spoke no english at all and yet was super freindly to me........Then when I let them know I spoke Spanish it got even better. Smiles all around.......These guys had no idea who I was. I just showed up at thier door at 11:30 at night in the middle of nowhere. They never even gave me a suspicious look........just invited me in for the party like I was thier long lost best friend. Then they helped me fix my car. They got out on a cold night after giving me free beer and food at THIER party and were hapy to get greasy and muddly to help fix my car! When I left the last thing they said to me was "come back any time amigo". Its just a part of thier culture I guess because I have had other similar experiences of friendliness too numerous to mention...........(more positive stereotypes)


GAFES, Im gonna tell you the same thing I said before. Just because a bunch of morons on this board are biggots and racists dont become one yourself and start hating Americans...........There are more spanish speaking Americans then there are people in all of Spain so if you hate Americans your just hating a good portion of your own people----> (there are also a huge number of Mexican Americans as well). There are also alot of whites who applaud Mexican immigration and enjoy the mix of culture that it brings. I love Mexican food, mexican music, mexican attitude etc.......I speak spanish and have several Mexican friends....Every time I see another "Mercado Central" open up it brings a smile to my face.

Mexicans dont push thier **** on anybody.........they are generally hard working and moraly upstanding citizens.............Sure you can go to hell holes like inner city LA (I used to live in a bad part of Santa Monica back during the angel dust craziness) and find the worst examples if thats your agenda (**** you can find the worst of every group in LA)........but you can also go to small town America and find many of the best......if thats also your agenda......... It has alot to do with how you want to look at things..........not how things really are........Maybe I want to see Mexicans in a good light........but I cant honeslty thing why. I have no vested interest in trying to support Mexicans......The only way I can explain it is that over time my prejudices and negative stereotypes about Mexicans were broken down just by interacting with them........after all most prejudice and hatred is based only on ignorance......and most of it goes out the window ounce you actually let yourself interact with whatever group you hate .

[Ratamacue]

I agree entirely with obd, as much as he usually pisses me off. :P But let's really think about this. I don't think it's unreasonable for Americans to be majorly pissed off after an occurance like at this soccer game. It's not like the crowd was chanting "you suck!" or something simple like that. They were chanting the name of the man who planned the hijacking of four airliners, an attack on the Pentagon, the destruction of the Twin Towers, and the deaths of 3,000 people. For many people, this frustration and anger is going to be released in the form of generalizations and hatred. I'll admit that I chuckled at what BlackRain said because it was pretty funny. But that doesn't mean that I feel that way at all about Mexicans. Quite the contrary really.

[Zorro C9]

I am still surprised at just how well the chant worked.

Most chants don't last outside the stadium- this one reached out and touched everyone. Haha.

[manuel]

dang, finally i got some backup here. and no im not some latin/hispanic/mexican activist... and neither do i consider myself mexican-american. my parents, parents from mexico? sure. but i consider myself just american cuz thats all what i am, born and raised that way too. the pool cleaners, lawn mowers, and grape pickers these clowns speak of are some of my family members. All citizens of the united states and some are enlisted personnel AD and reserve and i will be AD Army come july 12th <-- DEP
And im not angry at the racial stereotypes you guys have been throwing around. slightly irritated? yup. its just that you guys made an effort to belittle an entire group of people (that are here IN THE UNITED STATES; for all you know are U.S. citizens or naturalized immigrants) based upon what a bunch of mexican nationals on the other side of the border chanted.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

In Mexico, as in most of the world (except the United States of course), soccer is a BIG deal, in fact it is the KING of sports. Mexican major league soccer players are paid a lot higher than their U.S. counterparts. When the national team plays, everyone supports the team, including most Mexicans living abroad. Mexico vs. the U.S. is considered the most classic game of all given the historical fact that no other country in the world has invaded Mexico as many times and spilled Mexican blood on Mexican soil as the U.S. Most Mexicans have never forgotten that the U.S. stole half of Mexico's territory in the middle of the nineteenth century (that's right, Mexico did not willingly give away half its territory, 50,000 Mexicans died defending Mexico in that tragic war). You can say, that the U.S. invasion of Mexico (1846-1848) was Mexico's 9-11, only with much more devastating consequences. So I think, that Mexican soccer fans chanting Osama, Osama at a soccer game against the U.S. is a pretty harmless get back at the U.S. and were just having fun. Anyway, I saw the game, it was good, Mexico played better and just kicked butt. Good for Mexico.
As for GAFES, he should really just blow off those racist biggots that often invade this forum. As a Mexican born in the U.S., I have met many of them face to face, and when you do they are all just a bunch of cowards. I once made one cry outside of a supermarket after he put down a beggar with racial slurs. After I confronted him, he was just one big pussy.
GAFES, you are one of the best contributors to this site, your pictures and information help educate a lot of morons whose only idea of the world beyond their southern border comes from Holiwood.
GAFES: No te encabrones hermano, yo vivo entre esta bola de pendejos y los tengo que tolerar a diario, aunque es justo decir que hay algun porcentaje de ellos que si son buenas bestias (lo malo es que perdieron en las ultimas elecciones). Nunca se te vaya ocurrir abandonar la patria, nadie sabe lo que tiene hasta que lo pierde. Por suerte vivo en la frontera y puedo respirar Mexico de ves en cuando. Saludos

[Midav]

It's called ignorance.

But please, people, don't blame all Mexicans for the actions of a few dip****s with no cojones.

Lot's of great Mexican people out there and many I call friends. Yes, we have also have a problem with illegals, but that's a different subject entirely.

[stuntman]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl rofl lol Man I am hispanic and I thought that was awsome! rofl

[SavikLion]

Though I really do not approve with the illegal immigration issue, its not only the mexicans that are guilty but also american business's looking for the quick buck afforded by cheap labor. F all those mexican bastards at that game, but soccer is really the only thing they have to be proud of since Benito Juarez. I dont blame the honest hard working people just looking for a better way of life that come here. But if you cant Osama to me be prepeared for the boot heading towards Uranus!

[stuntman]

U.S. stole half of Mexico's territory in the middle of the nineteenth century (that's right, Mexico did not willingly give away half its territory, 50,000 Mexicans died defending Mexico in that tragic war). You can say, that the U.S. invasion of Mexico (1846-1848) was Mexico's 9-11, only with much more devastating consequences. So I think, that Mexican soccer fans chanting Osama, Osama at a soccer game against the U.S. is a pretty harmless get back at the U.S. and were just having fun.
No offence my latino brother but that is the biggest bull**** I always here Mexicans spule! The Mexican American War was fought simply over Texas and the abuses of General Santa Anna toward Texanos(spelling?)and the battle of the fort (Alamo) started it! American soldiers responded by fighting back. The result was the Battle of San Jacinto, in which a force of several hundred Americans defeated a much larger Mexican force. Half of the Mexican soldiers were killed, and most of the rest were taken prisoner.
The result was an American-controlled Texas, for the most part. Despite the troubles, Americans continued to move there. Tensions remained high, but fighting was at a minimum for several years. In 1844, the U.S. annexed Texas, making it an American territory. years later, war began. The first major battle was at Palo Alto, in Texas, and neither side could claim victory. The Battle of Monterrey soon followed, and American forces under General Zachary Taylor seized the strategic Mexican city.

Also at this time, fighting was taking place further west. An American army occupied Los Angeles but was soon forced out. The California city of Monterey surrendered to American commodore John Sloat in 1846. In that same year, the American Army of the West, under Colonel Stephen Kearny, marched toward California. He reached Santa Fe in the summer and California in December. In January 1847, American troops reoccupied Los Angeles and kept it this time.
In Texas and Mexico in 1847, American troops enjoyed many successes:
In February, near Monterrey, at the Battle of Buena Vista, 5,000 American troops commanded by General Zachary Taylor went up against 14,000 Mexican troops commanded by Santa Anna. Despite being outnumbered almost 3-to-1, the Americans won the battle.
In March, 12,000 American troops under the command of General Winfield Scott made the country's first amphibious landing, moving from ships to land near the city of Vera Cruz. After a weeklong siege, Mexico surrendered the city.
Several more battles followed, resulting in more American victories and more Mexican retreats.
American forces captured the Mexican capital, Mexico City, in September.
With the occupation of Mexico City by American forces, both sides were ready to talk peace. And then the Mexicans spoke of peace. It was a fair war my friend! Not a 9-11 so please do not ever compare the two seperate events..
Sorry I got crazy but I am having a history dispute with a coworker. So it struck a nerve.

[anti_septic]

This happend at the World Cup qualifying game a few days ago, against USA in Mexico City. SOme 100.000+ people chanted "Osama, Osama".

I was wondering, what do Americans think about this...?

For those who care, Mexico won.

Minor league
If you want to trade real insults go to any English football game

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

This happend at the World Cup qualifying game a few days ago, against USA in Mexico City. SOme 100.000+ people chanted "Osama, Osama".

I was wondering, what do Americans think about this...?

For those who care, Mexico won.

Minor league
If you want to trade real insults go to any English football game

Yeah, it's a bit tasteless but there are other similar chants.

I know of couple of English ones

"You'll never take the Falklands" Whenever we play Argentina

"Two world wars and one world cup, doo dah doo dah!" Against Germany

"He beats his wife, he beats his wife, he beats his-
Gazza beats his wife...." Directed at Paul Gascoigne who... beat up his wife

"Timmy Howard
F**k Off
He plays in our net
F**k Off
Timmy Howard
F**k Off
He's got Tourette's" About the American goalkeeper Tim Howard who's got tourettes.

"Vieira ooooh!
Vieira ooooh!
He comes from Senegal!
His dad's a cannibal"
Chelsea fans against Arsenal.

"Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Bowyer,
Oooh! Ah!
We want to knooooooow, why your not in jail! ." rofl

[anti_septic]

This happend at the World Cup qualifying game a few days ago, against USA in Mexico City. SOme 100.000+ people chanted "Osama, Osama".

I was wondering, what do Americans think about this...?

For those who care, Mexico won.

Minor league
If you want to trade real insults go to any English football game

Yeah, it's a bit tasteless but there are other similar chants.

I know of couple of English ones

"You'll never take the Falklands" Whenever we play Argentina

"Two world wars and one world cup, doo dah doo dah!" Against Germany

"He beats his wife, he beats his wife, he beats his-
Gazza beats his wife...." Directed at Paul Gascoigne who... beat up his wife

"Timmy Howard
F**k Off
He plays in our net
F**k Off
Timmy Howard
F**k Off
He's got Tourette's" About the American goalkeeper Tim Howard who's got tourettes.

"Vieira ooooh!
Vieira ooooh!
He comes from Senegal!
His dad's a cannibal"
Chelsea fans against Arsenal.

"Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Bowyer,
Oooh! Ah!
We want to knooooooow, why your not in jail! ." rofl

Yeah not forgetting the old favourites like 'Dying on the runway' mentioned earlier :-)

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

One i forgot was "No surrender" which was sung at any game, but particularly if England played Ireland.

"With St George in my heart keep me singing,
with St George in my heart I pray.
With a bullet in my gun,
i'll be shooting one by one,
all those bastards in the IRA."

It has become very much a hooligan song and is very rarely heard in anything other than the lower leagues.

[Opening Batsman]

Well, this thread has sorted out who the idiots are and those who are more deserving of respect.

And honestly, get over it! It is called sledging! It is an art form in cricket, it is meant to unsettle the opposition but both sides know (should know) that no harm is meant. Would you all like some Kleenex?

[CG51]

Odb brought up some good points and I know there is plenty of good Mexican here in this country. But don’t come up with the excuse that because soccer is such a big sport that you condone the chants or overlook how those chants will impact some of the people here. Those losers new what they were chanting and used it to demoralize a team that was trying to win. They are the lowest form of life and far outweigh any from of bigotry found on this forum.

That said this topic should have been locked from the start because of its sensitive nature.

[sp2c]

in many cases the mexicans cleaning our pools and mowing our lawns are Mexican nationals.

then you really shouldn't be employing/paying them now should you?

[von_Moo142]

And honestly, get over it! It is called sledging! It is an art form in cricket, it is meant to unsettle the opposition but both sides know (should know) that no harm is meant. Would you all like some Kleenex?

If some of these guys can't put football chants in context then they've no hope of understanding sledging.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

You wouldn't be whining if you had not lost! The only reason why soccer isn't popular in the U.S. is because it isn't any good at it. Learn to play the game and stop crying. Maybe if you put some of those pool cleaners in the U.S. national soccer team, the team would improve! rofl

[DE_Six]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

:lol:

Seriously though, football/soccer has to be the sport with the worst fans worldwide! Wasn't a Colombian referee shot by supporters who didn't like his calls agaisnt their team a few years back?

[Midtown]

Damn they play DIRTY. Have any of you seen that match? The american team sure has a lot of self restraint. They kept shoving americna players and the referee didnt do ****.

There is the differance between hockey and soccer, in hockey, they woulda said **** you, lets go. and beaten the **** out of eachother. man do i miss the NHL...I'd love to get more Canuck Hockey Leagues on the TV even.

[DE_Six]

You wouldn't be whining if you had not lost! The only reason why soccer isn't popular in the U.S. is because it isn't any good at it. Learn to play the game and stop crying. Maybe if you put some of those pool cleaners in the U.S. national soccer team, the team would improve! rofl


Wrong. Soccer is popular in the US, more college and high school students play soccer than american football. The difference is that the pro leagues don't get the media coverage of the NFL, MLB or NBA. There's so many pro sports leagues in the US, all can't be #1.

Here's some facts about soccer in the US:


In 1998-99, 983 NCAA [National Collegiate Athletic Association] schools had men's basketball programs, making it by far the most popular sport. Below are the top five most-offered college men's and women's sports. Note that football is in eighth place for men, sponsored by 607 NCAA institutions. Source: NCAA.

MEN'S WOMEN'S

Basketball 983 Basketball 1004
Baseball 847 Volleyball 963
Cross-Country 829 Cross-Country 891
Tennis 767 Tennis 877
Soccer 718 Softball 832

http://www.uta.fi/FAST/US7/REF/top-98.html#college

Not that american football, at #8, is not there and yet is arguably more popular than soccer. Hockey is also absent from the list, yet the NHL receives better coverage than pro soccer.

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/a071103.htm

Personally, I think the more the merrier. I remember when I was in England, I was so thankful for rugby because other than that and soccer, there was only tennis and polo on TV. And in France, hockey is virtually unknown.

Personally again, I don't understand. In my book, soccer has nothing on american football, rugby or hockey. But that's just my opinion. p-)

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Again, my point, there wouldn't be all this whining if the U.S. had won and on a world level U.S. soccer is at best inconsistent. They've only managed to be listed at number eight because of victories in the CONCACAF area, i.e. the powerful teams of Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Honduras, etc. If the U.S. were in Europe, it would be number 80. U.S. soccer players have only begun to improve because a lot of them play in Europe. Again, I insist, hire the pool cleaners as players! rofl rofl

[ElHombre]

No offence my latino brother but that is the biggest bull**** I always here Mexicans spule! The Mexican American War was fought simply over Texas and the abuses of General Santa Anna toward Texanos(spelling?)and the battle of the fort (Alamo) started it! American soldiers responded by fighting back. The result was the Battle of San Jacinto, in which a force of several hundred Americans defeated a much larger Mexican force. Half of the Mexican soldiers were killed, and most of the rest were taken prisoner.
The result was an American-controlled Texas, for the most part. Despite the troubles, Americans continued to move there. Tensions remained high, but fighting was at a minimum for several years. In 1844, the U.S. annexed Texas, making it an American territory. years later, war began. The first major battle was at Palo Alto, in Texas, and neither side could claim victory. The Battle of Monterrey soon followed, and American forces under General Zachary Taylor seized the strategic Mexican city.

Also at this time, fighting was taking place further west. An American army occupied Los Angeles but was soon forced out. The California city of Monterey surrendered to American commodore John Sloat in 1846. In that same year, the American Army of the West, under Colonel Stephen Kearny, marched toward California. He reached Santa Fe in the summer and California in December. In January 1847, American troops reoccupied Los Angeles and kept it this time.
In Texas and Mexico in 1847, American troops enjoyed many successes:
In February, near Monterrey, at the Battle of Buena Vista, 5,000 American troops commanded by General Zachary Taylor went up against 14,000 Mexican troops commanded by Santa Anna. Despite being outnumbered almost 3-to-1, the Americans won the battle.
In March, 12,000 American troops under the command of General Winfield Scott made the country's first amphibious landing, moving from ships to land near the city of Vera Cruz. After a weeklong siege, Mexico surrendered the city.
Several more battles followed, resulting in more American victories and more Mexican retreats.
American forces captured the Mexican capital, Mexico City, in September.
With the occupation of Mexico City by American forces, both sides were ready to talk peace. And then the Mexicans spoke of peace. It was a fair war my friend! Not a 9-11 so please do not ever compare the two seperate events..
Sorry I got crazy but I am having a history dispute with a coworker. So it struck a nerve.

your version of the reasons for the war are... kinda off. but that's for another topic. ;)

[foxtrot023]

Wrong. Soccer is popular in the US, more college and high school students play soccer than american football.

Then perhaps it is time that the US should start calling soccer by its real name....Football p-)

Why, oh why did they ever came up with the idea that they could use the name football for a game that rarely uses a foot and that it uses an object that in definitively not a ball..... ;)

[DE_Six]

Again, my point, there wouldn't be all this whining if the U.S. had won

No, I honestly think the "whining" comes as a reaction to the disgusting attitude of the mexican supporters (note that I insist on "supporters", in this case I don't wish to generalize), which I think is inexcusable.

To insinuate that US supporters pretend to be offended by it to mask their deception of losing a game of soccer disregards the impact of 9/11 on the US and the sensitive nature of the subject. I think that US supporters would have been pissed (and rightly so) by this behavior even if they had beat Mexico 3-none.

[gaijinsamurai]

Well said, obd. I couldn't have written a better response to the BS myself!

[szr]

I see the chant has had the intended effect. No wonder the Yanks lost on the day.Ya that and the fact that "Yanks" don't play soccer.

[szr]

You wouldn't be whining if you had not lost! The only reason why soccer isn't popular in the U.S. is because it isn't any good at it. Learn to play the game and stop crying. Maybe if you put some of those pool cleaners in the U.S. national soccer team, the team would improve! rofllol In the US, soccer is mainly a womans and kids sport. Young boys may play it but usually move on to [American] football by their teen years and through highschool. Beyond young kids, its mainly a girls sport through highschool and college, only seriously played by boys who really want to play it. For everyone else, its played as a casual sport that's easy to quickly setup and play in the park or something.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Well, they do play football (soccer), but they are just not good at it.
By the way, the Mexican War as it is called in the U.S., or the U.S. Invasion as it is called in Mexico, was not a "fair" war, it was a war of territorial conquest by a stronger neighbor against a peaceful weaker one and it did cost 50,000 mexican lives. Abe Lincoln himself (not president at the time) was one of its critics. Don't forget history is always writen by the victors. It's not always true. But that is for another discussion. Anyway, you should have seen it, it was a great game.

[szr]

Well, they do play football (soccer), but they are just not good at it.Why is it so hard for you to accept that soccer just isn't a serious sport in the US?

[gaijinsamurai]

Some of the best Marines and soldiers I ever served with were Mexicans and Mexican-Americans.

[szr]

Some of the best Marines and soldiers I ever served with were Mexicans and Mexican-Americans.x2.
Don't crucify the whole nation for the acts of a few pussies.

[Ratamacue]

Well, they do play football (soccer), but they are just not good at it.
Why is it so hard for you to accept that soccer just isn't a serious sport in the US?
Because that's a false statement. Every year it becomes more and more popular. It's also highly dependant on where you live. Where I used to live on Long Island, few people really gave a **** about American Football. Everything was all about soccer and lacrosse. Soccer is also pretty big here in Colorado. And our national team doesn't suck as bad as Francisco likes to think. No, we're not really at the level of Mexico yet, but give us ten years or so and I'll bet we will be.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

SZR:
Are you implying that the U.S. soccer team players (I believe they are all men), can't even master a "girl's" sport? Also, why is it so hard for you to understand that soccer (or football which is its true name) is the KING of sports on planet Earth.

[szr]

Soccer AND lacrosse? Are you ****ting me Rat? When I grew up, boys played football, baseball, and hockey. Girls played soccer, softball, volleyball, field hockey, and cheerleading. It's just the way it was.


Also, why is it so hard for you to understand that soccer is the KING of sports on planet Earth.We Americans don't recognize your king. Sorry.

[cbreedon]

Again, my point, there wouldn't be all this whining if the U.S. had won and on a world level U.S. soccer is at best inconsistent. They've only managed to be listed at number eight because of victories in the CONCACAF area, i.e. the powerful teams of Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago, Honduras, etc. If the U.S. were in Europe, it would be number 80. U.S. soccer players have only begun to improve because a lot of them play in Europe. Again, I insist, hire the pool cleaners as players! rofl rofl

Why do you keep saying "they" and "you"? You are American, so who is the "They" that you keep talking about. I realize that you live in a Mexican colony, but it is still a part of America. I used to live in El Paso. My parents are still there. I know that alot of people don't speak English and it feels like Mexico, but if you love Mexico so much, take the trolley to Juarez and see how good your life would be then.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Uyyy, que miedo!!!
You're out voted, 5,700,000,000 to 300,000,000.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

I won't go back, not because I wouldn't like it, but because I have a right to be here, since my family has been living here since way before it was taken over by the U.S. If anyone should go back where they came I think it's you. Also, I'll back anyone I damm like.
P.S. You're knowledge of El Paso sucks for someone who supposedly lived here. The troleys stopped running in the seventys.

[M4ko]

did they start chanting it after US lost or during the game?

[cbreedon]

I won't go back, not because I wouldn't like it, but because I have a right to be here, since my family has been living here since way before it was taken over by the U.S. If anyone should go back where they came I think it's you. Also, I'll back anyone I damm like.
P.S. You're knowledge of El Paso sucks for someone who supposedly lived here. The troleys stopped running in the seventys.

Yes the actual trolley doesn't run anymore, but last time I was there (about 4 years ago) they had a bus that looked like a trolley that made a loop in Juarez.

I'm not trying to bash Mexicans, I married one. It just pisses me off when people who live in the US go on about it like they don't live here. They enjoy the benefits of having one of the highest standards of living yet they disrespect it.

I am from England originally and have a passport still, but I would never go back to live.....It's OK to visit, but living there isn't all that great. Most people I know there want to emmigrate.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Mexicans soccer fans can chant wathever they want, its their country and they also have a thing called freedom of speech. Get over it, its a game, the U.S. lost. No one was hurt.

[toki]

To make it clear. football stadium = bad taste and 'subhuman' behaviour.
I remember an english guy reenacting a plane running around an american player trying to do a corner kick.(2001 or 2002)
Everything goes, because noone cares. The more disgusting the chants the better they are. That's the name of the game.
A whole section chanting "f*** your mamas up their asses" (roughly translated) for over half an hour is nothing special.... (at least at the league games i attended = Bundesliga and lower leagues)

Millwall Motto: No one likes us we don't care....

So the american fans could have reacted with any mexican bashing song...

[el borracho]

Well, the horse is pretty much dead on the argument of the pro's and con's of Hispanics and immigration as well as the "who has a better soccer team" debate...but I will say that I speak decent Spanish and watch a lot of various Spanish speaking channels on TV, from what I have seen Mexico totally supports the US in the war on terror. I have seen only small, isolated incidents of criticism toward the US on this issue, and it's usually from distraught parents who have lost a loved one in the war.

This could be due to a variety of reasons but the main one (IMHO) is that Mexicans realize that many of their comrades and family members are in the US...and many of those serve in the US armed forces as well. I have seen more support from them for our troops than I have from many Americans.

On another note, an observation that I usually make to people on the immigration issue is this: most Mexicans that immigrate to the US illegally are at the end of their economic rope. They are making a last ditch, all out effort at a better life. Usually these are the Mexicans that Americans come in contact with in the US. Unfortunately this leads to the generalization that all of Mexico is one big suffering nation. This is not always the case, there are many economically prosperous and wealthy Mexicans still in Mexico. Since they are doing well financially, they have no need to emigrate to the US. So, if the tables were turned and Americans were forced to flee their own country, what view would others give us if they only met the stereotypical trailer-trash American? They obviously wouldn't see the millions of others that are still well-off and remained in their country.

Now, I am not saying that Mexicans in the US are the equivalent of trailer-trash, or that all poorer Americans (or anyone living in a trailer) is trash. But just like the root of all negative stereotypes, it only takes a few bad examples.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

I'm not trying to bash Mexicans, I married one. It just pisses me off when people who live in the US go on about it like they don't live here. They enjoy the benefits of having one of the highest standards of living yet they disrespect it.

I am from England originally and have a passport still, but I would never go back to live.....It's OK to visit, but living there isn't all that great. Most people I know there want to emmigrate.[/quote]

As long as I pay taxes and obey the law, I can say wathever I want, sorry if it hurts your feelings. Regarding people from England wanting to leave, I don't blame them, I mean... kidney pie, fish and chips, give me a break!

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

A whole section chanting "f*** your mamas up their asses" (roughly translated) for over half an hour is nothing special.... (at least at the league games i attended = Bundesliga and lower leagues)


I think the guy in the crowd said something similar to Cantona before this happened.

"I think he said you're mothers a whore!", and it turns out she was!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/190000/images/_192971_eric_cantona_kung_fu_kick300.jpg

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Sorry, still learning to use the quotes, but you have to learn that we're not all made in a mold, and we don't all think the same.

[toki]

A whole section chanting "f*** your mamas up their asses" (roughly translated) for over half an hour is nothing special.... (at least at the league games i attended = Bundesliga and lower leagues)


I think the guy in the crowd said something similar to Cantona before this happened.

"I think he said you're mothers a whore!", and it turns out she was!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/190000/images/_192971_eric_cantona_kung_fu_kick300.jpg

Yep rofl... football at it's best. :lol:

EDIT: :oops: we both highjacked the thread with Cantona...
Please anyone... don't mind and go on.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

That's the beauty of football. Anything can happen!

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/england/newcastle/bowyer-dyer_fighting.jpg

:roll:

[cbreedon]

A whole section chanting "f*** your mamas up their asses" (roughly translated) for over half an hour is nothing special.... (at least at the league games i attended = Bundesliga and lower leagues)


I think the guy in the crowd said something similar to Cantona before this happened.

"I think he said you're mothers a whore!", and it turns out she was!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/190000/images/_192971_eric_cantona_kung_fu_kick300.jpg

Yep rofl... football at it's best. :lol:

EDIT: :oops: we both highjacked the thread with Cantona...
Please anyone... don't mind and go on.

This was great..... I was in England at the time.....

[king_nothing100]

Footy matches are pussyfied now. Because you can't kick off a good offensive chant because no-doubt some toffee nose bint with her kids will complain to the stewards because she doesn't want her kids exposed to that sort of language, same goes for airhorns normally only get one blast before the steward collars you.

[Evildave]

And the mexicans wonder why we dont want them in our country. Hell I will clean my own pool. PS. soccer is a pussy sport.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

And the mexicans wonder why we dont want them in our country. Hell I will clean my own pool. PS. soccer is a pussy sport.

thanks for the contribution cocknose.

[RomanS]

GAFES
dont leave

there are bunch of retarded teenagers on this board, and the mods not usually available to moderate it

ignore them, they are not worth it...

[foxtrot023]

And the mexicans wonder why we dont want them in our country. Hell I will clean my own pool. PS. soccer is a pussy sport.

Well genius, guess which is the only country in the world that plays "soccer"?











Pssst: We play football

[Evildave]

cocknose?!?! cant you do any better then that?[/quote]

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Evildave
I agree, cocknose isn't harsh enough, how about as we Mexicans like to say "Chinga tu madre!".

[Evildave]

Hey frankie......chinga this you dumbass.......now clean my pool!!

[Francisco Gonzalez]

David el malito:
How about chinga tu blow me!
You can get one of the white guys under the freeway underpass with the sign "will work for food" to do your pool. By the way, I did't know trailerparks had pools? rofl

[Maine Finn]

Hey frankie......chinga this you dumbass.......now clean my pool!!

:|

En usko sinua. Mikä sinulla on ongelmana?

[pathfinder82]

In all seriousness though, Mexico would be much worse off without the US next door, as would Canada, 90% of the population lives on the border. Since this happened awhile ago I have calmed down but it was still a dispicable move. There are definite deep seeded resentments towards us on the southern border, mexican on american violent crime is common. During the Olympics last year Greek citizens burned the american flag after one of their runners was disqualified for using a banned substance, they actually thought it was an american conspiracy. It comes down to big d-ck syndrome, we let ours swang and people start acting like children, and children get spanked.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

If Mexico was not next to the US, it wouldn't have lost half of its territory, and what do you mean 90% of the population is on the border you dingbat?

[Bluezoo]

They can say what ever they please.

Just as long as they make sure that our pool is clean by 6:00PM. :lol:

rofl

[Werewolf01]

Guys I think this is more of a football/soccer culture issue than a Mexican Culture issue. Calm down..please???? Gafes, put away the machete and take three steps back from the Gringo. Jeez it was a bunch of Mexican football hooligans, not all of Mexico. Just like the American idiots who were and are members of AQ, its just a few of them, not all of them.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Yeah GAFES, don't let a few ignorant biggots piss you off, I'm sure that if you met those losers in person they would turn out to be a bunch of "maricones". You're posts, info and pictures kick ass.

[pathfinder82]

90% of CANADA dipsh-t, and if you dont like losing your land you should teach your countrymen how to fight.

[ZaakM433]

so... have any football teams played against Spain recently? Have they chanted words to remind the spanish of the train bombings?

[Evildave]

I cant understand all the whining going on here. Soccer is not even a real sport. The only real sports are hunting and racing, everything else is just a game.

[pathfinder82]

I cant understand all the whining going on here. Soccer is not even a real sport. The only real sports are hunting and racing, everything else is just a game.

Hunting is hardly a sport anymore, the advantage is so much for the hunter now the animal hardly has a chance. I remeber overhearing some hunters looking over all the new gear at a sporting goods store, its seems it has become more of who can buy the coolest kit than the actual hunting itself. If you wanna challenge join the military and hunt humans, they actually shoot back. Sitting in a tree waiting for a anmal to come by is pus-y sh-t, grab a knife run the thing down and gut it, you might get a little respect from me.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Pathfinder:
Eventhough you're somewhat of a ****wad, I agree with your point on hunting. If you're not hunting lion with a knife and barefoot you are nothing but a coward. Killing defenseless animals from a distance with modern weapons isn't anything to bragg about.

[Evildave]

Pathfinder,,,,,I dont need nor am I looking for your respect. As for you frankie,,,,,when was the last time you killed a lion with a knife? Yea thats what I thought. Beotch!!

[Maine Finn]

Pathfinder,,,,,I dont need nor am I looking for your respect. As for you frankie,,,,,when was the last time you killed a lion with a knife? Yea thats what I thought. Beotch!!

Just a quick question... do you find this petty BS gratifying?

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Davidcito:
I wouldn't, hunting is for cowards, it's not a real sport. I bet you couldn't play football (soccer) for five minutes. You're probably a fat lard ass redneck good ol' boy that likes shooting varmit from the steps of his home in the trailer park after making sweet love to his sister. rofl

[pathfinder82]

Ha ha, yea I probobly am somewhat of a ****wad, I really didnt want to start a **** throwing contest with you Francisco. The Mexican/Mexican American people I know are the hardest working most genuine people I know, when I have visited Mexico the people truly make you feel right at home. I have no problem with Mexicans wanting to come here and make a better life but it must be regulated, and any regulations will/do look bad to the Mexican people. You cant deny that what those people did during the world cup match was the worst kind of sucker punch, and I remember seeing it on TV it wasnt just some of them it was all of them. Finally I do think it was wrong to take Mexicos land from them, its been a long time since I studied that in history but if it was Mexicos then it should be theirs today, the white man has done enough land grabbing . What I would like to see more is the Mexicans making a better country for themselves and if they need help the rest of the world would surley help. It just seems like Mexicos goverment isnt very proactive in any sense.

[Evildave]

c!

[Zorro C9]

Guys I think this is more of a football/soccer culture issue than a Mexican Culture issue. Calm down..please???? Gafes, put away the machete and take three steps back from the Gringo. Jeez it was a bunch of Mexican football hooligans, not all of Mexico. Just like the American idiots who were and are members of AQ, its just a few of them, not all of them.

Don't say that, soon you'll have the whole of MP.net making sense like you just have. MP wouldn't be the same with 80% of the population suddenly converting to Sense.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

You're cool Pathfinder, sorry about the ****wad bit, I can get a little bit overheated at times. As for little David, he can blow me any time for a nicle or a dime.

[Evildave]

hey frankie......learn how to spell.

[ronin2172]

Seriously all of you need to take a chill pill...this match was way more important for the mexicans...due to pride. In the previous six matches the US record against mexico is 4-1-1 thats 4 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw...One of the US wins includes the last World Cup finals where the US put the mexicans out of the competetion.

Both teams are garunteed to qualify as long as they play to current levels, so this game was for bragging rights only.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

hey frankie......learn how to spell.

Hey Davie:
Why don't you learn how to... "Chiga tu Madre!!!"
Also, when you start a sentence, you're supposed to capitalize.
By the way, not to bragg because I know our Eoropean members are usually multi-lingual and I respect them for that, but I can read, write and speak in two languages fluently (English is not my primary language). You on the other hand speak hillbilly and which other?

[Werewolf01]

I cant understand all the whining going on here. Soccer is not even a real sport. The only real sports are hunting and racing, everything else is just a game.

Hunting is hardly a sport anymore, the advantage is so much for the hunter now the animal hardly has a chance. I remeber overhearing some hunters looking over all the new gear at a sporting goods store, its seems it has become more of who can buy the coolest kit than the actual hunting itself. If you wanna challenge join the military and hunt humans, they actually shoot back. Sitting in a tree waiting for a anmal to come by is pus-y sh-t, grab a knife run the thing down and gut it, you might get a little respect from me.

I hunt with a yew longbow and a smoothbore flintlock. Don't categorize us all because of some people whose IQ happens to coincide with their favorite nascar driver's number. There are hunters and there are guys who want to ride around the woods on their four wheelers and shoot anything that moves. It about llike saying all Mexicans support OBL. BTW if you think football/soccer is a p^ssy sport, get your ass on the field and see how long it takes you to pass out from exhaustion. It is a hell of a lot more physically demanding than American Football. :fork:

[Maine Finn]

hey frankie......learn how to spell.

Hey Davie:
Why don't you learn how to... "Chiga tu Madre!!!"
Also, when you start a sentence, you're supposed to capitalize.
By the way, not to bragg because I know our Eoropean members are usually multi-lingual and I respect them for that, but I can read, write and speak in two languages fluently (English is not my primary language). You on the other hand speak hillbilly and which other?

Nothing against you, bro. At least you've got a sense of civility.

Evildave: Just a quick question... do you find this petty BS gratifying?

En usko sinua. Mikä sinulla on ongelmana? :|

[Ratamacue]

Soccer AND lacrosse? Are you ****ting me Rat? When I grew up, boys played football, baseball, and hockey. Girls played soccer, softball, volleyball, field hockey, and cheerleading. It's just the way it was.
Welcome to the year 2005.

[szr]

BTW if you think football/soccer is a p^ssy sport, get your ass on the field and see how long it takes you to pass out from exhaustion.Pass out from what? Feigning injury to draw a foul? rofl
;)

[Stormy]

We been having a pro Soccer and Lacrosse teams. All the pro Lacrosse teams are in the North East of the U.S.

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[szr]

Soccer AND lacrosse? Are you ****ting me Rat? When I grew up, boys played football, baseball, and hockey. Girls played soccer, softball, volleyball, field hockey, and cheerleading. It's just the way it was.
Welcome to the year 2005.Not quite. I've heard of schools with rodeo and shooting teams. I'll attribute your Long Island soccer and lacrosse experience to regional eccentricities (the NE being the region).

I still see other guys busting their wallets on their kids' football and ice hockey equipment.

BTW I hope you escaped LI, Rat. :lol:

[Werewolf01]

BTW if you think football/soccer is a p^ssy sport, get your ass on the field and see how long it takes you to pass out from exhaustion.Pass out from what? Feigning injury to draw a foul? rofl
;)

What, you mean like a six foot four bottle blonde bone head quarterback who would rahter intentionally ground the ball than run the risk of ruining his hair and manicure? rofl ;)

[szr]

BTW if you think football/soccer is a p^ssy sport, get your ass on the field and see how long it takes you to pass out from exhaustion.Pass out from what? Feigning injury to draw a foul? rofl
;)

What, you mean like a six foot four bottle blonde bone head quarterback who would rahter intentionally ground the ball than run the risk of ruining his hair and manicure? rofl ;)What team is Beckham QB'n for? Zing.

[Ratamacue]

Soccer AND lacrosse? Are you ****ting me Rat? When I grew up, boys played football, baseball, and hockey. Girls played soccer, softball, volleyball, field hockey, and cheerleading. It's just the way it was.
Welcome to the year 2005.
Not quite. I've heard of schools with rodeo and shooting teams. I'll attribute your Long Island soccer and lacrosse experience to regional eccentricities (the NE being the region).

I still see other guys busting their wallets on their kids' football and ice hockey equipment.

BTW I hope you escaped LI, Rat. :lol:
It's not just regional eccentricities. As I said, here in Colorado, soccer is fairly popular and lacrosse is growing as well. And lacrosse is big pretty much all down the east coast, Maryland in particular. Last I remember, they're both growing in California as well. That's not to say that football and all those more "American" sports are dying out, it's just that to say that soccer is unimportant and unpopular in the US is completely false.

As for Long Island, yeah, my family moved away about two years ago. But I like it there, even if things can be a bit hectic and stressful.

[wamp]

Soccer is very popular in alot of parts of Texas, and yes very much so in the border area. Although Football is a religon here though.

Without a doubt this thread has been beat to death, but Just thought I would throw in my .2cents. My family owns land on the Texas-Mexico border and we either stumble on illegals or they stumble on us. They are never offensive or hostile. We give them food and water a cerveza if we have extra, then call the border patrol, cya next week amigos! They are just people like you and me trying to find a better life. You can drive around Austin at any hour and seem homeless vagrants on every street corner, but not a single damn one of them is Hispanic. WHY? Because they are willing to take any job and then some more. They work their ass's off all week, then on friday put on ostrich cowboy boots, startched wranglers, and crank up the tejano! If you have never been to a quinceanera or Mexican wedding your missing out! So I went OT sorry :oops:

[szr]

It's not just regional eccentricities. As I said, here in Colorado, soccer is fairly popular and lacrosse is growing as well. And lacrosse is big pretty much all down the east coast, Maryland in particular. Last I remember, they're both growing in California as well. That's not to say that football and all those more "American" sports are dying out, it's just that to say that soccer is unimportant and unpopular in the US is completely false.

As for Long Island, yeah, my family moved away about two years ago. But I like it there, even if things can be a bit hectic and stressful.Hmm... Well if that's the case, maybe in a few years time we'll have a national soccer team that's worth watching just to see them beat up on some of the countries that live and die by the sport. I can already see the headlines:TEAM USA WINS WORLD CUP--TIME STOPS AS UNIVERSE COLLAPSES

[Zorro C9]

That will never happen unless the USAF bombs every competing country.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

SZR
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but...you're dreaming!!!

[szr]

SZR
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but...you're dreaming!!!I thought I was prophecizing (**** is that a word?). :(

[Ratamacue]

SZR
I hate to be the one to tell you this, but...you're dreaming!!!
All one need look at is 2002. The US made it to the quarterfinals and beat Mexico 2-0 in the round of 16. No, we're not likely to win in 2006, but let's see where we stand in 2010 or 2014, eh? ;)

[callous]

Well Francisco I guess the mexican Army shouldn't have attacked the US troops on the Rio Grande in Texas. Then we wouldn't have had to march through Mexico take the capital and force them to sell us the what is now the south western United States. woot

[Eat a bullet]

That will never happen unless the USAF bombs every competing country.
Pfffft! We can do that. Then we'll say The USAF bombed you? Oh, they're just a bunch of hooligans supporting their team and the world will laugh and say Well, that's football for ya teehee. p-)

[Francisco Gonzalez]

Well Francisco I guess the mexican Army shouldn't have attacked the US troops on the Rio Grande in Texas. Then we wouldn't have had to march through Mexico take the capital and force them to sell us the what is now the south western United States. woot

Actually, Callous, it shows that your knowledge of the US-Mexico war is very poor. Most serious historians will admit that the US claim that the Texas-Mexico border started at the Río Grande was bogus. The Mexican claim that the border started at the Río Nueces was more closer to the truth. Therefore, the war started when US troops invaded Mexican territory. Besides, the US was just looking for an excuse to start the war at any cost. If you read a serious book on the subject (Duel of Eagles by Jeff Long) it will talk about the United States' desire to expand all the way to the Pacific coast. Have you ever heard of "Manifest Destiny"?

[Zorro C9]

That will never happen unless the USAF bombs every competing country.
Pfffft! We can do that. Then we'll say The USAF bombed you? Oh, they're just a bunch of hooligans supporting their team and the world will laugh and say Well, that's football for ya teehee. p-)

No that would never happen because the USAF always bombs the wrong people.

[szr]

That will never happen unless the USAF bombs every competing country.
Pfffft! We can do that. Then we'll say The USAF bombed you? Oh, they're just a bunch of hooligans supporting their team and the world will laugh and say Well, that's football for ya teehee. p-)

No that would never happen because the USAF always bombs the wrong people.Collateral damage happens in football. That's just the nature of the game.

[Francisco Gonzalez]

That will never happen unless the USAF bombs every competing country.
Pfffft! We can do that. Then we'll say The USAF bombed you? Oh, they're just a bunch of hooligans supporting their team and the world will laugh and say Well, that's football for ya teehee. p-)

No that would never happen because the USAF always bombs the wrong people.
rofl rofl

[Sepper]

Are you sure they weren't screaming "Tostada, Tostada" ?! :lol:

[GAFES]

I guess some of you are right. Ill just ignore these clowns.

Saludos.

[Maine Finn]

I guess some of you are right. Ill just ignore these clowns.

Saludos.

Good call, man. Not all of us Yanks are totally worthless. ;)

Kippis!

~Finn

[toki]

It's worthless to discuss if a sport is 'for real men'. The europeans, asians , africans and latin americans love football. (Me included) Why bother when the u.s. americans don't? The other part of the discussion has nothing to do with football, but with immigration.

So flaming is useless.

And 'Osama' chants in a football stadium. Why bother, when most americans don't bother the game and mexicans either. Why not throw back:

(singing: "clean my pool till 6 pm... doo dye doo dye") That would be football like.

It's just a game... There's no political "discussion" in a stadium.

[callous]

If Americans chanted anything like that they'd be labeled as rascists. If a fight broke out because of it. Those people would probably be charged with a hate crime. That's can add 5 years in prison if your convicted.

[toki]

If Americans chanted anything like that they'd be labeled as rascists. If a fight broke out because of it. Those people would probably be charged with a hate crime. That's can add 5 years in prison if your convicted.

OK didn't say i would do it. Just wanted to say don't care to much about hate chanting in a football game.

I'm totally against racist chanting against players. But if mexican ultras (or whoever this was) bring osama to the game, americans could have reacted in some other harsh way. That's how it works here. I don't want anybody to turn racist!!!

Edit: :lol: When england plays us they normally bring the war into the game. "One world cup and two world wars doo dye doo dye" I like that. It's fun. (we have three world cups). From a fan side it's not a gentlemens sport.

[ELMIKE2K5]

In response to Francisco stating we need to get better players, well the US was prior to the last match 6 0 1 against Mexico. The US made it to the final 8 of the last WC and knocked off Mexico 2 nil to do it. Mexico scoring in the last match was its first points off of the US in 4 matches. I'm not suprise by the US losing in Mexico City, at 7k ft above sea level, in a stadium that seats and sells out over 100k, and in one of the smoogiest cities in the world, its probably one of the toughest venues for a visiting team to win at in the world. As offensive as the chanting was it seemed to be more out of desperation from some mexican fans as to the fact that the only sport in which they had the USAs number is starting to slip away from them. Just wait til the next match between the 2 countries takes place, which is in the US in a part of the country with a small latino population (Columbus Ohio) a place Mexico has never won at and you will see for yourself who's the new dominate of the 2 countries.

[von_Moo142]

Edit: :lol: When england plays us they normally bring the war into the game. "One world cup and two world wars doo dye doo dye" I like that. It's fun. (we have three world cups). From a fan side it's not a gentlemens sport.

That's very true, good post! In the England - Northern Ireland game last week there were a bunch of England fans singing the tune to Dambusters. This was, presumably, because the ref. was from Germany.

More silly than racist, but it still invokes the war and it would be easy for people who don't understand the nature of most football fans to get the wrong idea. Most of the fans do this type of thing as a fun wind-up, not because they hate anyone.

Of course, there are still some racist idiots and troublemakers. But many of these guys are banned from football matches now, so they are less of a problem these days.



I guess some of you are right. Ill just ignore these clowns.

Good for you! :-) Don't let the bastards get to you.

[Werewolf01]

BTW if you think football/soccer is a p^ssy sport, get your ass on the field and see how long it takes you to pass out from exhaustion.Pass out from what? Feigning injury to draw a foul? rofl
;)

What, you mean like a six foot four bottle blonde bone head quarterback who would rahter intentionally ground the ball than run the risk of ruining his hair and manicure? rofl ;)What team is Beckham QB'n for? Zing.

You know, I was preparing a comeback, but I just realized that since I would rather watch paint dry than watch a bunch of seriously overpaid simmian neanderthals play American Football, I can't name a single current NFL quarterback. :oops:

[Maine Finn]

You know, I was preparing a comeback, but I just realized that since I would rather watch paint dry than watch a bunch of seriously overpaid simmian neanderthals play American Football, I can't name a single current NFL quarterback. :oops:

Psst... Tom Brady. ;)

[Werewolf01]

You know, I was preparing a comeback, but I just realized that since I would rather watch paint dry than watch a bunch of seriously overpaid simmian neanderthals play American Football, I can't name a single current NFL quarterback. :oops:

Psst... Tom Brady. ;)

Thanks!


ummm.... What, you mean like that wuss TOM BRADY. What sort of a team captain has to HIDE behind his team anyway?!?!PFFT! P^ssy!

(How was that?) p-) ;)

[Maine Finn]

You know, I was preparing a comeback, but I just realized that since I would rather watch paint dry than watch a bunch of seriously overpaid simmian neanderthals play American Football, I can't name a single current NFL quarterback. :oops:

Psst... Tom Brady. ;)

Thanks!


ummm.... What, you mean like that wuss TOM BRADY. What sort of a team captain has to HIDE behind his team anyway?!?!PFFT! P^ssy!

(How was that?) p-) ;)

rofl

Excellent. I love the Pats, but that's funny anyway. *thumbs up*

[Romeo98]

Jeez people....

[Francisco Gonzalez]

In response to Francisco stating we need to get better players, well the US was prior to the last match 6 0 1 against Mexico. The US made it to the final 8 of the last WC and knocked off Mexico 2 nil to do it. Mexico scoring in the last match was its first points off of the US in 4 matches. I'm not suprise by the US losing in Mexico City, at 7k ft above sea level, in a stadium that seats and sells out over 100k, and in one of the smoogiest cities in the world, its probably one of the toughest venues for a visiting team to win at in the world. As offensive as the chanting was it seemed to be more out of desperation from some mexican fans as to the fact that the only sport in which they had the USAs number is starting to slip away from them. Just wait til the next match between the 2 countries takes place, which is in the US in a part of the country with a small latino population (Columbus Ohio) a place Mexico has never won at and you will see for yourself who's the new dominate of the 2 countries.

I guess we'll see won't we.

[toki]

Edit: :lol: When england plays us they normally bring the war into the game. "One world cup and two world wars doo dye doo dye" I like that. It's fun. (we have three world cups). From a fan side it's not a gentlemens sport.

That's very true, good post! In the England - Northern Ireland game last week there were a bunch of England fans singing the tune to Dambusters. This was, presumably, because the ref. was from Germany.

More silly than racist, but it still invokes the war and it would be easy for people who don't understand the nature of most football fans to get the wrong idea. Most of the fans do this type of thing as a fun wind-up, not because they hate anyone.

Of course, there are still some racist idiots and troublemakers. But many of these guys are banned from football matches now, so they are less of a problem these days.



I guess some of you are right. Ill just ignore these clowns.

Good for you! :-) Don't let the bastards get to you.

You're right. There's a thin line between racism and "tasteless" football fun on the stands. But it's hard to explain to americans. The football fan culture is MUCH different then the family-orientated attendance at american sports. Even with 13 i went to away games with my classmates. The group you travel with is normally a bunch of whacko antisocial human beings. But it's fun :)

[Felix]

In all seriousness though, Mexico would be much worse off without the US next door, as would Canada, 90% of the population lives on the border. Since this happened awhile ago I have calmed down but it was still a dispicable move. There are definite deep seeded resentments towards us on the southern border, mexican on american violent crime is common. During the Olympics last year Greek citizens burned the american flag after one of their runners was disqualified for using a banned substance, they actually thought it was an american conspiracy. It comes down to big d-ck syndrome, we let ours swang and people start acting like children, and children get spanked.

90% on the border? Not true.

And for all the people on this forum, I'm a Mexican. Born in Mexican. I have a US passport now. I served in the USMC for seven years. Am I cleaning your goddamn pools? For those on this board that have common sense and understanding, thank you. For those that don't, I pity you.

[Stormy]

I say kill the thread. It's long overdue.

[CG51]

^i agree

[Stormy]

Let's hijack this bitch, Bender ;)
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[CG51]

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