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NcDeuce
11-24-2003, 12:27 PM
Jurors recommend death for Muhammad
Monday, November 24, 2003 Posted: 11:47 AM EST (1647 GMT)

VIRGINIA BEACH, Virginia (CNN) -- Jurors on Monday recommended John Allen Muhammad be sentenced to death for orchestrating last year's sniper shootings in the Washington area.

Jurors recommended death for two of the four counts Muhammad was convicted of last week in last year's shooting death of Dean Harold Meyers: terrorism and capital murder.

Muhammad also received a 10-year sentence recommendation for conspiracy and a three-year sentence recommendation for use of a firearm in the commission of a felony.

Muhammad showed no sign of emotion as the decisions were read about 10:50 a.m. Monday, less than two hours after jurors reconvened for a second day of deliberations. They had deliberated for about four hours Friday.

Judge LeRoy Millette set a formal sentencing date of February 12. Under Virginia law, Millette has the final word and can reduce the jury's recommended sentence.

Last week the same jury convicted the 42-year-old Muhammad of the October 9, 2002, killing of Meyers outside a Manassas, Virginia, service station. Meyers was one of 10 people killed in the October 2002 sniper killings. Three people were wounded but survived the attacks.

After the verdict, prosecutor Paul Ebert endorsed the jury's recommendation.

"The death penalty is reserved of the worst of the worst, and we think Mr. Muhammad fell into that category," Ebert said.

Muhammad becomes the first person ever charged and sentenced under Virginia's new post-September 11, 2001 terrorism law, outlawing attempts to intimidate the civilian population at large, or to influence the conduct or activities of the government of the United States, a state or locality through intimidation.

Prosecutors argued for death
The decision caps a six-week trial that began with Muhammad attempting to represent himself. He abandoned that attempt after two days of proceedings.

Prosecutors argued that Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo -- Muhammad's alleged accomplice currently on trial in nearby Chesapeake -- acted as a team, with Malvo as the trigger man in most of last year's sniper shootings.

Millette can reduce the recommended sentence but not increase it.

Prosecutors argued that Muhammad qualified for the death penalty because he posed a continuing threat to society and his conduct -- actions they said could be considered vile, horrible or inhuman -- reflected "depravity of mind."

"One thing's for sure, they took pleasure in terrorizing people," Ebert said. "They took pleasure in killing people. That's the kind of man that doesn't need to be in society."

To bolster the prosecution's case, Muhammad's ex-wife testified that Muhammad threatened to "destroy" her after their marriage collapsed in 1999, and an inmate at the Virginia jail where Muhammad was held to await trial described what prosecutors considered an escape attempt earlier this year.

No testimony indicated that Muhammad pulled the trigger in the sniper killings, but prosecutors argued that Muhammad and Malvo acted as a team in the attacks.

Other testimony linked Muhammad to killings in Alabama, Louisiana and Washington state.

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/LAW/11/24/sprj.dcsp.muhammad.trial/story.muhammad.monday.ap.jpg
John Allen Muhammad, look at his face...he's not the big, bad sniper anymore, POS.

Condemned prisoners in Virginia have the choice of dying by lethal injection or in the electric chair.

Virginia has executed 89 convicts since the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1976. Condemned prisoners in Virginia have the choice of dying by lethal injection or in the electric chair.

Justice has been served. It will be a great day when this man fries in Hell.

Kriz
11-24-2003, 12:44 PM
Justice has been served. It will be a great day when this man fries in Hell.[/quote]

You gonna end up with him in hell, if you're so religious funny you've forgotten "Thous shall not kill" ...

NcDeuce
11-24-2003, 12:46 PM
What are you talking about?

Go back to Sunday School... It reads "Thou shall not murder". or "You shall not murder."

Kriz
11-24-2003, 12:47 PM
The difference being ?

NcDeuce
11-24-2003, 12:52 PM
Marine goes to war in defense of his country...dies charging up the beaches. (KILL)

Man breaks into couple's home and stabs them to death. (MURDER)

Paratrooper goes to war in defense of his country, lands in enemy territory and kills twenty enemy soldiers. (KILL)

Soldier throws grenade into company HQ and kills two fellow soldiers. (MURDER)

Armed man breaks into couple's home, couple shoots the intruder. (KILL)

Catch my drift?

Operation Ivy
11-24-2003, 12:55 PM
Justice has been served. It will be a great day when this man fries in Hell.

You gonna end up with him in hell, if you're so religious funny you've forgotten "Thous shall not kill" ...[/quote]

If u were around the shooting u would want him dead, im in the DC Baltimore area and these two guys had everyone worried just to go out and get some gas or go shopping even go to school, so i hope they kill both of those bastards

Roger Rabbit
11-24-2003, 01:01 PM
Life imprisonment and i mean life. Why not send him to incest island sorry i mean Sheppy. Thats a worse punishment than death.

Argyll
11-24-2003, 01:03 PM
What do the commandments say?
Thout shalt not kill or thout shalt not murder?

Royal
11-24-2003, 01:10 PM
It's a long time since I was at Sunday School, but back then it was "thou shall not kill"

Not that I give a flying f**k whether the bastard fries or not :lol:

budanski
11-24-2003, 01:12 PM
Thou shall not kill*

*except for bad muslims, socialists, and Argyll ;)

96B
11-24-2003, 01:20 PM
Lets ask God what he has to say about John Allen Muhammad...

http://www.elitesavers.com/funny/obscene-cloud.jpg

Roger Rabbit
11-24-2003, 01:33 PM
nice rofl

WARPIG
11-24-2003, 01:37 PM
Let me try and use small words for the dumbasses in this thread. Killing and murder are two different things. There is a definate fine line. If you are responsible in the decision to kill for whatever reason, you still have to live with that decision. You have taken a life. A life that you did not create but for what ever reason, chose to end.
*Celebrating in a death is for idiots no matter what the circumstance.
It is easy to be ignorant of those things when you've been educated on the subject of death by online "twitch gaming' and the only stress in your life is when someone accuses you of camping.
I can see where killing and murder get confused or celebrated when your educational backround is largly anime based.

Argyll
11-24-2003, 02:03 PM
I say toast him slowly as a quck death is too good for the mo fo!!!

California Joe
11-24-2003, 04:56 PM
The PIGman is right you know. The literal translation is "Thou shalt not do murder".

Hell I buy art supplies at the Michaels store in Fredericksburg where that woman got shot. I'd put a frigging icepick in that guys ear myself.

Operation Ivy
11-24-2003, 05:01 PM
I thought u would have lived in Cali Mr Joe ;)

California Joe
11-24-2003, 05:04 PM
Heh, nope, just down 301 from you pal. I went to the Baltimore County Police Academy in Dundalk about a hundred years ago. ;)

Trigger
11-24-2003, 05:08 PM
*hands California Joe a freshly dulled, rusty icepick*

California Joe
11-24-2003, 05:10 PM
Thanks other white meat buddy.

Beowulf
11-24-2003, 05:17 PM
I'm generally against the death penalty, not because of stupid "I love people" reasons. I think they should bring back chain gangs, put those bastards to work, that's a deterrent to crime: Hard m-f-ing work. Not a cushy cell, cable tv and a terminal nap.

We'd get cheap labor for public works. Then they'll be too tired to try and stab each other and work on ways to escape.
I could be wrong, but that's my .02
-b

radon
11-24-2003, 05:27 PM
anything that keeps him from shooting people like that again.
Want to kill/murder him, then atleast i wont care much.