Japanese War Crimes 1937-1945

[EasyC]

http://www.users.bigpond.com/battleforaustralia/JapWarCrimes/OverviewJapWarCrimes.html


MURDER OF AN AUSTRALIAN HERO
The Japanese were especially brutal in their treatment of captured Allied airmen and members of special forces, such as commandos. Australian Sergeant Leonard G. Siffleet of "M" Special Unit was captured while on reconnaissance behind Japanese lines. He is about to be beheaded at Aitape, New Guinea, by order of Vice Admiral Michiaki Kamada. This atrocity cannot be justified on the ground that Sergeant Siffleet was a spy. He was in uniform when he and his team were captured. Kamada was executed as a war criminal after the Japanese surrender.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/battleforaustralia/webgraphics/JapWarCrimes/Aussie_execution.jpg

[Uhlan]

My Father in Law was a Chindit in Burma and saw examples of Japanese culture up close and personal; women staked out on the ground and raped to death. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fitting payback for their special brand of arrogance. Also lets not forget the hundreds of thousands of Chinese they slaughtered, what was going on with these evil monkeys?

[Opening Batsman]

There really is no excuse for that. I don't care how much pinko leftists make excuses for them - culture, peer pressure, tradition... If I had the chance, I would go back to WW2 just to fry some of them.

[EasyC]

oi Auzzie, you know the story i've posted of my grandad in James's topic? You should read up on the Ambon POW camps, apparently one the biggest human tragedy's in WW2, because basically when the Japs got forced out of Ambon they cut off the heads of all POW's before they left, which really boils my blood at the disgusting nature of the Jap military back then and their stupid belief of having no honour in surrendering to the enemy.

but yeah, what happened was, the Jap officers in charge of the killings were caught and taken to a War Tribunal in Darwin after the war finished. They were found guilty, and were taken outside and shot. So yeah, I only feel a tiny bit better about hearing that. But it will never make up for what those bastards did.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Nice link Easy C

What the Japs did in ww2 was shocking. I was listening to the radio last night, and the japs teach in school that their part in ww2 was to combat imperialism!

I read a book last you about Aussie POW's under Japan. Had alot of 1st hand accounts. Wasent a overly large book. 400 pages. But by the time it got to Sandakan (it had a 1st hand account of a couple of escapes) I literally had tears in my eyes.

[stateofequilibrium]

My Father in Law was a Chindit in Burma and saw examples of Japanese culture up close and personal; women staked out on the ground and raped to death. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fitting payback for their special brand of arrogance. Also lets not forget the hundreds of thousands of Chinese they slaughtered, what was going on with these evil monkeys?

Evil monkeys?

I agree that what the Japanese did was horrendous. And I agree the bomb was the way to end the war. But I don't agree with "payback." How does bombing to oblivion thousands of civilians who probably had very little to do with the war constitute payback or any form of moral-superiority? You're killing their innocents just as permanently as they did to yours.

[toki]

I found this info of Sergeant Leonard George (Len) Siffleet.:

Date of birth: 14 January 1916
Place of birth: Gunnedah, NSW
Date of death: 24 October 1943
Place of death: Aitaoe Beach, New Guinea

Leonard George (Len) Siffleet
P02547.001


Len Siffleet, a special operations soldier who became well-known for the manner of his death, was born at Gunnedah, New South Wales, on 14 January 1916. A keen sportsman, he became a good swimmer but also enjoyed less physical pursuits; he once outfitted the Gunnedah pipe band with highland hose that he had knitted.


In the late 1930s Siffleet moved to Sydney in search of work and was rejected by the police because of poor eyesight. Whatever defect marred his vision it was not sufficiently serious to prevent his being called up for the militia in August 1940. He served with a searchlight unit at Richmond Air Force Base but was released after three months and returned to civilian life.


After his mother’s death in 1941, he and his sister, Pearl, took responsibility for bringing up their two youngest brothers, a task made necessary by the itinerant nature of their father’s work. In September 1941, Siffleet joined the AIF and was posted to the 1st Division Signals Company at Ingleburn. He twice went absent without leave, possibly to see the woman to whom he had become engaged, Clarice Lane. ...

More:
Link:
http://www.awm.gov.au/people/1078334.asp

[Opening Batsman]

Can anybody remember the name of the place where the Aussie POWs were tied to stakes and used as bayonet practice to 'blood' the young Jap soldiers?

[FallenAngel]

There really is no excuse for that. I don't care how much pinko leftists make excuses for them - culture, peer pressure, tradition... If I had the chance, I would go back to WW2 just to fry some of them.

"When this war is over, Japanese will only be spoken in hell" -- Admiral Halsey, USN.

[Para]

The Japanese where still killing Allied POW after they had signed the Alleged Peace Treaty

[M1A2U2]

There really is no excuse for that. I don't care how much pinko leftists make excuses for them - culture, peer pressure, tradition... If I had the chance, I would go back to WW2 just to fry some of them.

Very well put...truly some of the most barbarous people in recent history. Leftists make excuses for them simply because they are not caucasion. I heard they crucified POWs and while they were dying would cut off their genitals and sow them into their mouths.

[M1A2U2]

There is a good movie about a Jaoanese POW camo with Keefer southerlandm but I forget the name. It shows some of the brutality that was released upon our british and aussie allies

[SS1983]

The Japanese is cruel race.They killing,looting,burning all around Aisa during WWII.

Still hate them,never forgive them.I know some british veterans still dislike japanese,and can not forget what happened 60 years ago.

My grandmother's elder brother got killed in Nanjing,1937,which more than 300,000 people got killed too.The japanese soldiers said he was a KMT soldier,but he only had a stick with him and he was a peasant.

Forgive my poor english. :oops:

regards

[2RHPZ]

I just have seen a violent strike against Japanese embassy in Beijing on TV. Well, I wonder how much does this nation change since WWII? I don´t believe that they are completely different ... as not many Czechs and Poles don´t belive that Germans are different too. I remember as I used to meet Japanese officers almost everyday in Iraq and thought about this question very often. They seem to be so peacefull and polite p-)

[J-10]

George Bush's comrades eaten by their Japanese PoW guards (http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/showthread.php?t=850)

By Charles Laurence in New York
(Filed: 26/10/2003)

The former President George Bush narrowly escaped being beheaded and eaten by Japanese soldiers when he was shot down over the Pacific in the Second World War, a shocking new history published in America has revealed.

The book, Flyboys, is the result of historical detective work by James Bradley, whose father was among the marines later photographed raising the flag over the island of Iwo Jima.

Lt George Bush, then a 20-year-old pilot, was among nine airmen who escaped from their planes after being shot down during bombing raids on Chichi Jima, a tiny island 700 miles south of Tokyo, in September 1944 - and was the only one to evade capture by the Japanese.

The horrific fate of the other eight "flyboys" was established in subsequent war crimes trials on the island of Guam, but details were sealed in top secret files in Washington to spare their families distress.

Mr Bradley has established that they were tortured, beaten and then executed, either by beheading with swords or by multiple stab-wounds from bayonets and sharpened bamboo stakes. Four were then butchered by the island garrison's surgeons and their livers and meat from their thighs eaten by senior Japanese officers.

The future president escaped a similar fate because he ditched his plane further from the island than the other crews, and managed to scramble on to a liferaft. American planes launched a hail of fire at Japanese boats which set out to capture him, driving them back, and he was eventually rescued by a US submarine.

When the black hull of the USS Finback surfaced in front of him, he thought he was hallucinating, he told Mr Bradley in a television film made to coincide with the publication of Flyboys. He had been vomiting, bleeding from a head wound, and weeping with fear. He said only four words to his rescuers: "Happy to be aboard."

Mr Bush's part in the raid - for which he won the Distinguished Flying Cross - has long been known to Americans. Not known until now was the grim fate of his downed comrades - none from his own plane - who swam ashore.

Mr Bradley pieced together the horrific truth from secret transcripts of the war crimes trials, given to him by a former officer and lawyer who was an official witness at the time, and the testimony of surviving Japanese veterans.

A radio operator, Marve Mershon, was marched to a freshly dug grave, blindfolded, and made to kneel for beheading by sword, testified a Japanese soldier, named as Iwakawa, at the war crimes trial. "When the flyer was struck, he did not cry out, but made a slight groan."

The next day a Japanese officer, Major Sueo Matoba, decided to include American flesh in a sake-fuelled feast he laid on for officers including the commander-in-chief on the island, Gen Yoshio Tachibana. Both men were later tried and executed for war crimes.

A Japanese medical orderly who helped the surgeon prepare the ingredients said: "Dr Teraki cut open the chest and took out the liver. I removed a piece of flesh from the flyer's thigh, weighing about six pounds and measuring four inches wide, about a foot long."

Another crewman, Floyd Hall, met a similar fate. Adml Kinizo Mori, the senior naval officer on Chichi Jima, told the court that Major Matoba brought "a delicacy" to a party at his quarters - a specially prepared dish of Floyd Hall's liver.

According to Adml Mori, Matoba told him: "I had it pierced with bamboo sticks and cooked with soy sauce and vegetables." They ate it in "very small pieces", believing it "good medicine for the stomach", the admiral recalled.

A third victim of cannibalism, Jimmy Dye, had been put to work as a translator when, several weeks later, Capt Shizuo Yoshii - who was later tried and executed - called for his liver to be served at a party for fellow officers. Parts of a fourth airman, Warren Earl Vaughn, were also eaten and the remaining four were executed, one by being clubbed to death.

The parents of all the airmen are now dead, but Mr Bradley contacted all their families. "The first reaction was a stunned silence, a hush. But I think that at last knowing how these men died, however horrible their deaths, has allowed closure and in a word I heard from them, healing," he said. Mr Bush's first reaction was also to say nothing. "There was a lot of head-shaking, a lot of silence," the author told The Telegraph. "There was no disgust, shock or horror. He's a veteran of a different generation."

The former president returned to Chichi Jima with Mr Bradley for the first time since his rescue for the CNN documentary broadcast last week. Mr Bush looked sombre but never visibly upset, and ventured into the water in a modern liferaft to re-create his experience.

He recalled that while on the submarine he asked himself why he had survived. "Why had I been spared and what did God have in store for me? In my own view there's got to be some kind of destiny and I was being spared for something on Earth." Earlier he had told Mr Bradley: "I think about those guys all the time."

© Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 2003

[J-10]

http://www.users.bigpond.com/battleforaustralia/JapWarCrimes/OverviewJapWarCrimes.html


MURDER OF AN AUSTRALIAN HERO
The Japanese were especially brutal in their treatment of captured Allied airmen and members of special forces, such as commandos. Australian Sergeant Leonard G. Siffleet of "M" Special Unit was captured while on reconnaissance behind Japanese lines. He is about to be beheaded at Aitape, New Guinea, by order of Vice Admiral Michiaki Kamada. This atrocity cannot be justified on the ground that Sergeant Siffleet was a spy. He was in uniform when he and his team were captured. Kamada was executed as a war criminal after the Japanese surrender.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/battleforaustralia/webgraphics/JapWarCrimes/Aussie_execution.jpg

Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's repeated annual visits to Yasukuni shrine, which honors Japanese war dead including war criminals

[J-10]

THE RAPE OF NANKING (http://www.china918.net/en/index_en.htm)

[Russ.Dill]

My Father in Law was a Chindit in Burma and saw examples of Japanese culture up close and personal; women staked out on the ground and raped to death. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fitting payback for their special brand of arrogance. Also lets not forget the hundreds of thousands of Chinese they slaughtered, what was going on with these evil monkeys?

Evil monkeys?

I agree that what the Japanese did was horrendous. And I agree the bomb was the way to end the war. But I don't agree with "payback." How does bombing to oblivion thousands of civilians who probably had very little to do with the war constitute payback or any form of moral-superiority? You're killing their innocents just as permanently as they did to yours.

I don't think anyone is viewing that as "payback", if it was payback, we would have continued to bomb them after their surrender. Plus, its not as if the nuclear bombings caused the largest amount of loss of civilian life, it was just that it was contained in one bomb, rather than a squadron of bombers.

[EasyC]

http://www.users.bigpond.com/battleforaustralia/JapWarCrimes/OverviewJapWarCrimes.html


MURDER OF AN AUSTRALIAN HERO
The Japanese were especially brutal in their treatment of captured Allied airmen and members of special forces, such as commandos. Australian Sergeant Leonard G. Siffleet of "M" Special Unit was captured while on reconnaissance behind Japanese lines. He is about to be beheaded at Aitape, New Guinea, by order of Vice Admiral Michiaki Kamada. This atrocity cannot be justified on the ground that Sergeant Siffleet was a spy. He was in uniform when he and his team were captured. Kamada was executed as a war criminal after the Japanese surrender.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/battleforaustralia/webgraphics/JapWarCrimes/Aussie_execution.jpg

Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's repeated annual visits to Yasukuni shrine, which honors Japanese war dead including war criminals

yeah, I know....the Japs were and still are real bastards, especially what their doing to the Chinese at the moment.

[goldman]

I just have seen a violent strike against Japanese embassy in Beijing on TV. Well, I wonder how much does this nation change since WWII? I don´t believe that they are completely different ... as not many Czechs and Poles don´t belive that Germans are different too. I remember as I used to meet Japanese officers almost everyday in Iraq and thought about this question very often. They seem to be so peacefull and polite p-)

hehe

[gaijinsamurai]

EasyC wrote: "...the Japs were and still are real bastards, especially what their (sic) doing to the Chinese at the moment."

Would you care to elaborate? What exactly ARE they doing to the Chinese at the moment?

[Navy]

What did the allied soldiers do against the jap soldiers? I have seen pictures that is not too nice.

Its ridicolous for the chinese to protest against Japan when Tibet is just around the corner.

[EasyC]

EasyC wrote: "...the Japs were and still are real bastards, especially what their (sic) doing to the Chinese at the moment."

Would you care to elaborate? What exactly ARE they doing to the Chinese at the moment?

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=24724

and I've talked to a couple of my Chinese mates, and their pissed off aswell.

[gaijinsamurai]

Easy C., you still haven't answered my question: What exactly ARE "the Japs" doing to the Chinese at the moment?

By the way, before you and your Chinese mates get so worked up, you ought to check out a couple of the other threads on this discussion forum, which relate specifically to the current riots in China!

[EasyC]

Easy C., you still haven't answered my question: What exactly ARE "the Japs" doing to the Chinese at the moment?

By the way, before you and your Chinese mates get so worked up, you ought to check out a couple of the other threads on this discussion forum, which relate specifically to the current riots in China!

read the goddamn LINK!

and im not chinese, so I wouldnt know what I would be reading in those other threads.

[gaijinsamurai]

Yeah, I did read "the goddamn LINK", and all I read about were a bunch of hotheads who are being manipulated by their government, who, in recent years, has been a lot more of a bully than Japan! Do you think there were any Tibetans, or mothers of students killed at Tiennenmen Square in the crowds?

Actually, if you BOTHER to read the other threads, you will find that they are in English, as are almost all threads in this forum!
If you want some advice, I'd suggest that you educate yourself BEFORE you pretend to know about things you post!
Also, use of derogitory labels like "Japs" only serves to undermine your credibility!

[EasyC]

Yeah, I did read "the goddamn LINK", and all I read about were a bunch of hotheads who are being manipulated by their government, who, in recent years, has been a lot more of a bully than Japan! Do you think there were any Tibetans, or mothers of students killed at Tiennenmen Square in the crowds?

Actually, if you BOTHER to read the other threads, you will find that they are in English, as are almost all threads in this forum!
If you want some advice, I'd suggest that you educate yourself BEFORE you pretend to know about things you post!
Also, use of derogitory labels like "Japs" only serves to undermine your credibility!

stfu, you friggin moron. I dont care about Tiennenmen Square, that is whats on show here. What is on show is the fact that Japan is issuing school books that distort Japan's wartime atrocities.

Now its my turn to educate you, you rude prick.

My grandad was nearly captured and killed by the Japs in WW2 (and I will damn well use whatever grammatical abbreviations I can, I'm Australian, and to educate you more, we abbreviate nearly all cultures.....Abo's, Kiwi's, Pom's, Yank's. So don't you damn well say I'm being derogitory, you smart-arse little punk. Getting back on track, some of my grandad's best mates were slaughtered like ****ing pigs, and for the Jap government to issue books to ****ing children to distort the the view that Japs were awful to the POW's and Chinese women etc... in WW2, pisses me off like you wouldnt believe, but of course your that ignorant, and you damn well tell me that im un-educated, pisses me off even more, your just damn lucky the only thing seperating me from you, is cyberspace.

and to finish this off, read what CAG 147 wrote about the Jap PM visiting a memorial that honours war criminals........honor is it? Raping women and making them *** slaves......piss off.

and if your going to be a smart-arse and say that the threads are in english so I can read them, grow the **** up, of course I can ****ing read them, but what is the point if its Chinese history that I dont know about.

Oh and, If the Japanese people of today cant accept their tainted past, then they should know that I'm one proud Australian that isnt going to put up with any **** that will show false views of what happened back in WW2.

[gaijinsamurai]

Ha ha ha! I just about busted my gut laughing at your reply!!!

You obviously really don't know much about the subject matter you're writing about, yet, you seem to be frothing at the mouth!! Down, boy!!!
Have you had your rabies shot?
So your grandad was nearly captured by the Japanese. His mates were killed by them, and probably in a way that wasn't honorable. Okay, I can respect that.
But, you really don't know the truth about the issue of the textbooks. The fact of the matter is that out of many textbooks that were recently approved by the Japanese government for use in schools, ONE did not cover Japanese war crimes with appropriate depth. Yeah, you might argue that one is one too many, and I'd agree with you. In my opinion, any book that whitewashes Japanese war crimes should be rejected, and the Japanese government was stupid AND insensitive to fail to recognize this.
As far as "a memorial that honours war criminals", I assume you are referring to Yasukune Shrine, in Tokyo. That is the Shinto Shrine which is dedicated to the soldiers, sailors and airmen who died in Japan's wars. This shrine is non-political, and honors everybody who served their country. Yes, a few of them were tried and convicted war criminals. But the fact of the matter is that it is entirely appropriate for a leader of ANY country to honor their fallen soldiers when appropriate.
Most soldiers served honorably for Japan, as did most German soldiers, during WWII, even if their cause was not honorable. In hindsight, it would have been great if the Japanese military, as well as the German military, had risen up against Tojo and Hitler, and had been more enlightened, but that didn't happen. And because their parents' and grandparents' generation pursued a policy of aggression, most Japanese today feel a lot of guilt over what has happened. They realize they were on the wrong side of the war, had a culture that was disrespectful of human rights and dignity, and feel it is just that they lost the war.
Of course, no amount of money will truly compensate for atrocities like what happened at Nanking, but the Japanese have made repeated statements of apology for their conduct, and have made reparations payments. Does that even things up? Of course not, but it at least shows that Japan has taken some responsibility for their past misconduct.
The threads I suggested you read were in reference to what you had mentioned, regarding textbooks. If you want to remain ignorant when the truth has been made available to you, that's hard to respect!
By the way, you still didn't answer my question!
And as far as thinking I am lucky that cyberspace separates us, don't be too sure!!

[Jin]

Wow..I can write so much with this topic.. :lol:

Ever heard of "hyakunin-kiri kyoso"? It literally means "competition to remove 100 heads." This contests was held between two Japanese officers, Lt Toshiaki Mukai and Lt Takeshi Noda. Noda won by a score of 106 heads to 105 heads. When noda went back to Japan, he celebrated the victory by visiting a primary school and telling the students "I was the warrior from our home district whose 100 beheadings contest was reported in the newspapers."

Guess what... Even though there are evidence supporting this event really happened, the newly government approved textbooks label this as Chinese propaganda...

Now I'm going to move onto the ODA loans... or what some of you called "War Reparations" Since when did the Japanese government say the ODA loan packages were meant for war reparations in its ODA charter? From the Asia Pacific Research Network regarding Japan's ODA, “Main points are two. One is that our ODA is not Aid but a business. Most beneficiaries are Japanese companies. And anther one is Japanese ODA goes to a few big politicians and not goes to the people.” The ODA loans actually benefited Japanese companies.

Now I'm going to talk about the Shrine. People say Koizumi visited the shrine as a private citizen. But at the same time, he signed the guessbook with the title "the Prime Minister of Japan".

I could go on and on...but I guess you guys have enough to read already.

[gaijinsamurai]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Jin, but can you possibly give me some specifics, regarding textbooks? Everything I've read tells me that it is just one textbook out of several that has whitewashed the truth of Japanese atrocities, and that is a Jr. high-level book which nearly all school districts have declined to adopt.
Am I wrong? If so, please let me know. I respect your opinion and knowledge, even if I sometimes disagree with you.
I have no problem with people who want to shed light on Japan's horrible past. I too had family who fought in WWII, and we should all remember what could have happened if they had not been victorious.
What I do have a problem with, however, is when people like Easy C. say that Japanese are still as bad as they were then, or when they are referred to as monkeys.

[pvt.gordon]

What did the allied soldiers do against the jap soldiers? I have seen pictures that is not too nice.

Its ridicolous for the chinese to protest against Japan when Tibet is just around the corner.can't agree more.

[Jin]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Jin, but can you possibly give me some specifics, regarding textbooks? Everything I've read tells me that it is just one textbook out of several that has whitewashed the truth of Japanese atrocities, and that is a Jr. high-level book which nearly all school districts have declined to adopt.
Am I wrong? If so, please let me know. I respect your opinion and knowledge, even if I sometimes disagree with you.
I have no problem with people who want to shed light on Japan's horrible past. I too had family who fought in WWII, and we should all remember what could have happened if they had not been victorious.
What I do have a problem with, however, is when people like Easy C. say that Japanese are still as bad as they were then, or when they are referred to as monkeys.

Oh..I don't agree with Easy C. about the fact that the Japanese are still as bad as they were then. I just don't like the fact that some people just deny what had happened in WW2 and blame everything on Chinese propaganda.

Here is an article about the fact that the new edition shuns the word “invasion”, and even leaves out the Nanjing Massacre.

http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=7aa75d9b125ad96f4ffeb7a4728c7af0

Here is the link to the Asia Pacific Research Network regarding Japan's ODA:

http://www.aprnet.org/japanoda.htm

“Main points are two. One is that our ODA is not Aid but a business. Most beneficiaries are Japanese companies. And anther one is Japanese ODA goes to a few big politicians and not goes to the people.”

The loans also must be used on Japanese companies only. Some nice war reparations huh?

[gaijinsamurai]

Thanks, Jin!

[EasyC]

Ha ha ha! I just about busted my gut laughing at your reply!!!

You obviously really don't know much about the subject matter you're writing about, yet, you seem to be frothing at the mouth!! Down, boy!!!
Have you had your rabies shot?
So your grandad was nearly captured by the Japanese. His mates were killed by them, and probably in a way that wasn't honorable. Okay, I can respect that.
But, you really don't know the truth about the issue of the textbooks. The fact of the matter is that out of many textbooks that were recently approved by the Japanese government for use in schools, ONE did not cover Japanese war crimes with appropriate depth. Yeah, you might argue that one is one too many, and I'd agree with you. In my opinion, any book that whitewashes Japanese war crimes should be rejected, and the Japanese government was stupid AND insensitive to fail to recognize this.
As far as "a memorial that honours war criminals", I assume you are referring to Yasukune Shrine, in Tokyo. That is the Shinto Shrine which is dedicated to the soldiers, sailors and airmen who died in Japan's wars. This shrine is non-political, and honors everybody who served their country. Yes, a few of them were tried and convicted war criminals. But the fact of the matter is that it is entirely appropriate for a leader of ANY country to honor their fallen soldiers when appropriate.
Most soldiers served honorably for Japan, as did most German soldiers, during WWII, even if their cause was not honorable. In hindsight, it would have been great if the Japanese military, as well as the German military, had risen up against Tojo and Hitler, and had been more enlightened, but that didn't happen. And because their parents' and grandparents' generation pursued a policy of aggression, most Japanese today feel a lot of guilt over what has happened. They realize they were on the wrong side of the war, had a culture that was disrespectful of human rights and dignity, and feel it is just that they lost the war.
Of course, no amount of money will truly compensate for atrocities like what happened at Nanking, but the Japanese have made repeated statements of apology for their conduct, and have made reparations payments. Does that even things up? Of course not, but it at least shows that Japan has taken some responsibility for their past misconduct.
The threads I suggested you read were in reference to what you had mentioned, regarding textbooks. If you want to remain ignorant when the truth has been made available to you, that's hard to respect!
By the way, you still didn't answer my question!
And as far as thinking I am lucky that cyberspace separates us, don't be too sure!!

****ing don't ever call me boy, you ****head.

In relation to what I said about the Japs still being bastards, if you read what I ****ing wrote, it relates to what the government is doing to the Chinese. So don't even dare try and twist my words to please other forum members.

And if you agree with what I've previously said, shut the hell up and leave it at that.

Of course if you want to keep arguing, I'm not going anywhere, your call......mate.

[gaijinsamurai]

YOU were the one who said "they" as "The Japs", and did not distinguish between the Japanese government and the Japanese people. If you don't choose your words with more consideration, you've got nobody to blame but yourself, BOY!
And you still didn't answer my question?!?!?!

[EasyC]

Your a rude little prick and one that doesnt deserve consideration on this forum, your just another ****head on this forum that is going to have a bad reputation, so hopefully you'll either be banned or you'll leave yourself.

Anyway I'll be putting in a complaint form to the forum admin.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Lighten up Easy C your making yourself sound like a idiot. Alot worse gets posted on this forum by then what has been said here. Come on man your better then this. It was obvious flame bait. Just ignore it.

[Opening Batsman]

Get over being called "Japs", it is slang. I too have had relatives fighting the Japs, and fortunately they weren't killed but many of their mates were by slaughtered by "samurai", yes, your namesake. Feel free to shut the **** up.

[EasyC]

Lighten up Easy C your making yourself sound like a idiot. Alot worse gets posted on this forum by then what has been said here. Come on man your better then this. It was obvious flame bait. Just ignore it.

Mate whatever you reckon. You can let people walk over you your whole life if you want, and let them get their way. But Ultimately your going to end up like this prick, a total and complete loser.

[Hawaii_Light]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
whos daddys stronger?
:roll:
another gay ass thread which is just full of ignorent bull****.

the only peple that really now whats going on are gaijin samurai and Jin
everybody else is talking out of there ass.

wasn't this thread about japanese war crimes anyways, there are ten other threads on the school books.

not every japanese soilder was a inconsiderate killer, jesus christ some comments that were made were directed at the japanese as a no brained baby killer.

anyways i gotto go sharpen my samurai sword.

[EasyC]

oh yay, another ignorant Jap

[Opening Batsman]

Congratulations Hawaii, you just contributed more ingorant bull**** to this "ignorant bull****" thread. :P

[Hawaii_Light]

im not a ****ing jap you dumbass.

i've experinced more of the ****ing world then you'll ever ****ing see.
the cultures i have experienced, along with the lessons i have learned make me a respectable person who dosen't judge cultures (unlike you)

look at the ****ing flag, does it look japanese to your ignorent mind because im sure everybody else can see its canadian :roll:

[Hawaii_Light]

Congratulations Hawaii, you just contributed more ingorant bull**** to this "ignorant bull****" thread.

true, its actually my first flame war so i got a bit excited, but that dosen't make easy C's comments anymore respectable.

[Opening Batsman]

We Aussies tend to get a bit worked up about Japanese war crimes. :P

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

I like "JAP" :lol: Culture but 1941-1945 yeah it's all ****ed up. Be careful what you say,

[EasyC]

im not a f*** jap you dumbass.

i've experinced more of the f*** world then you'll ever f*** see.
the cultures i have experienced, along with the lessons i have learned make me a respectable person who dosen't judge cultures (unlike you)

look at the f*** flag, does it look japanese to your ignorent mind because im sure everybody else can see its canadian :roll:

im not looking at your flag, im looking at your location cockhead.

you want to talk about cultural experience, I'm going to ****ing rip into you.

non-Friends and Family cultural experience:

1. Holiday to Vanuatu, which included an array of various cultural orientations.

2. Holiday to New Zealand, which included meeting native Maori watching native dances etc...

3. Holiday to England, Scotland, which included eating a variety of different cultural dishes and other cultural orientations.

Friends and Family cultural experiences:

1. My aboriginal mates, which I have gone pig and roo hunting with, have shown me an incredible amount of cultural virtuosity.

2. My Chinese mates, have not only cooked amazing food but have shown me how "tight-nit" the Chinese people are.

3. My Danish mate and his family, not only cook a mouth-watering array of food, but are some of the nicest people I have met.


Because of what you have said, without any prior knowledge of who I am, and what I have achieved in life, you have made a pre-emptive strike on maturity in general.

You therefore fit the description of another mindless, ****-headed, needle ****, pimple faced 13 year old nerd that thinks they know all the wonders in the world, without even leaving their dark and un-lit room to go outside and get some fresh air.


i've experinced more of the f*** world then you'll ever f*** see.

this comment alone, proves your a fraud, much like the other forum member M1A2U2. So from now on you will be seen as a fake, and treated as a fake on this forum. Oh and by the way, because Australians have such a good cultural mateship bond, don't be surprised when another Aussie rips into you.

p.s. Avatars dont mean ****, look at Haiw's

and Congratulations on your new reputation as a fraud.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

You forgot to mention Gothic Hippies Easy C!

rofl

[EasyC]

You forgot to mention Gothic Hippies Easy C!

rofl

dude, your a good bloke, but im not letting this arsehole get by.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Really I dont blame you. I was just taking a diplomatic approach. But yeah **** the japs in 41-45

[Hawaii_Light]

so wait, how did you prove me as a fraud.

what are you talking about :roll:

i grew up along swedish communists in sointula, i lived most of my life with first nations in british columbia (my mother worked for early intervention with first nation children with developmental disibialities).

i moved up to Nunavut and lived with the inuit for four years while my dad worked for the department of education. I went to school with the inuit, i learned a bit of inuktitut and i got to hunt, live in an igloo ect.

i then moved to molokai (the real hawaii) in which 7,000 people of the closest to pure bred hawaiin as they get, lived. unfortunitly alot of their culture is lost but, pig hunting along with traditional dance was still widespread.

after that i moved here, the area i live is a historical port city and a former major port for the japanese navy during world war 11, it is the same place Francies Xeirveir? landed, and also near the only dutch settlement was allowed to reamain during japans isolation age.
if you haven't gotten it yet it also where one of americas A-bombs was dropped. Nagisaki.


your little vacations are no real match for what i have seen, i've been other places just im tired of wasnting time with your closemindedness.

so you atomatically assume that because me and gaijin live in japan then were both japanese, thats pretty close minded.

gaijin is an ex U.S soldier
and im a canadian civilian in which is no way related in ethenicity nor mindset to the japanese.

next time you call some one a fake you should probably back it up.

[Opening Batsman]

:cantbeli:
That pretty much says it all, I think.

[2RHPZ]

What did the allied soldiers do against the jap soldiers? I have seen pictures that is not too nice.

Its ridicolous for the chinese to protest against Japan when Tibet is just around the corner.

Good point! Anyway, cool down with your argues. It is not worth of such board members ...

... and one little fact:


Noda and Mukai were convicted of class B and C war crimes and hanged in 1947, so data on the actual number of men they killed has been elusive.

Link (http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=kuchikomi&id=298&page=5)

[gaijinsamurai]

Hey, EasyC and my buddy Hawaiilight!

How about we just agree to disagree, and end the flame war, okay? It was fun for a little while, but it's starting to get boring!

[Jin]

Hey, EasyC and my buddy Hawaiilight!

How about we just agree to disagree, and end the flame war, okay? It was fun for a little while, but it's starting to get boring!

I agree. Can't we all just get alonggggg....

[Cygnus]

http://www.cnd.org/njmassacre/

http://wwwsshe.murdoch.edu.au/intersections/issue9/morris_review.html

[Belrick]

I like "JAP" :lol: Culture but 1941-1945 yeah it's all f*** up. Be careful what you say,

Ok now thats disgusting. What your saying is the japanese war crimes vs those of european nations was unexceptable but the nanjing rape of 1937 was?????

[EasyC]

Hey, EasyC and my buddy Hawaiilight!

How about we just agree to disagree, and end the flame war, okay? It was fun for a little while, but it's starting to get boring!

your the one who ****ing started it. :roll:

[gaijinsamurai]

Let it rest, EasyC!!

[EasyC]

Let it rest, EasyC!!

no, shut the hell up and stay out of my threads.

[Opening Batsman]

Samurai, if you want to calm him down, you know what you have to do...http://www.fosters.com.au/corporate/images/beer_brands_vb.jpg

[Milkman]

Really I dont blame you. I was just taking a diplomatic approach. But yeah f*** the japs in 41-45
**** the japs 33-45.

[gaijinsamurai]

That beer looks good! In the US, we are pretty much limited to Foster's, as far as Australian imports go. How does that compare to British Ales such as Bass or Samuel Smith's?

[EasyC]

I just want to know one thing Gajin, that is why your loser mate of yours came in all hot-headed and made the assumption I had no cultural experience, and that he thinks he's the ****ing king of culture.

I couldnt give a **** about his cultural experience, but when that little piss-ant makes a personal attack on me, I'm going to give that bastard a ****ing mouth full.

So if he's the kind of person you want to hang around with, stay out of my threads so he doesnt follow you.

***END OF THREAD***

[gaijinsamurai]

Before I answer your question, PLEASE answer mine:

Do you want me to answer, or do you want to end this stupid flame war? Your choice, mate!

[Navy]

To ****head:
is this your place? FJORTIS!

[Hawaii_Light]

just want to know one thing Gajin, that is why your loser mate of yours came in all hot-headed and made the assumption I had no cultural experience, and that he thinks he's the f*** king of culture.


the reason i posted that was because od your racist comments towards the japanese, i was trying to make this point because of the difficulty of understanding japanese culture, and how it helps if you have a background in other cultures.

i was extremely angry with one of the racist remarks you made.

im tired of this crap.

[EasyC]

just want to know one thing Gajin, that is why your loser mate of yours came in all hot-headed and made the assumption I had no cultural experience, and that he thinks he's the f*** king of culture.


the reason i posted that was because od your racist comments towards the japanese, i was trying to make this point because of the difficulty of understanding japanese culture, and how it helps if you have a background in other cultures.

i was extremely angry with one of the racist remarks you made.

im tired of this crap.

when the **** was I racist?

[Hawaii_Light]

yeah, I know....the Japs were and still are real bastards, especially what their doing to the Chinese at the moment.

that had nothing to do with the government and you know it, also their two completly different governments which are completly uncomparible.


oh yay, another ignorant Jap

how would you feel if i called you another ignorant Auz, its a personal attack on an idenity, also known as sterotyping (a sign of racism).

im finished with this thread.

[EasyC]

yeah, I know....the Japs were and still are real bastards, especially what their doing to the Chinese at the moment.

that had nothing to do with the government and you know it, also their two completly different governments which are completly uncomparible.


oh yay, another ignorant Jap

how would you feel if i called you another ignorant Auz, its a personal attack on an idenity, also known as sterotyping (a sign of racism).

im finished with this thread.

I wouldnt give a **** if you called me an ingorant Auz, but I would laugh because it makes no sense.

Personal attack on an Identity?!?! God, grow up you overly-sensitive loser. And Stereotyping!!! hahahah! You should read what Memphiz (forum member) says about Australians and their culture, It's the kind of stuff you laugh at, not go out and buy a box of tissues and cry yourself to sleep like what your doing. And you think your a cultural know-it-all.....pfft....you know **** all about Australian culture.

piss off you annoying moron, I've put you down enough already, and I'm done with you.

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