Al-Arabiya inciting attacks

[jdbjdb]

Iraqi police raided Dubai-based broadcaster's Baghdad offices

The chief editor of al-Arabiya satellite channel has rejected charges that the station incited murder by airing a Saddam Hussein tape calling for attacks on Iraqi officials.

Salah Negm branded "unfair" the US-installed Iraqi Governing Council's Monday decision to ban the Arabic-language broadcaster from working in Iraq for an unspecified period of time.

The ban has drawn widespread criticism that the Governing Council is suppressing freedom of speech.

"We regret this decision and think that it's unfair," Negm told Aljazeera.net. "When Saddam Hussein was in power, the BBC and CNN broadcast [his] speeches inciting violence against other Arab leaders, but no one commented then," he said.

Negm said it was unclear how long the ban would be in force, saying the Dubai-based Saudi-owned broadcaster was "exploring the situation legally".

Negm vowed to continue to cover events in Iraq, despite the handicap. "We have a lot of sources in Iraq, not only al-Arabiya correspondents," he said.

Ban

Earlier on Monday, the council's current chairman Jalal Talabani announced the measure, saying, "We have decided to ban al-Arabiya in Iraq for a certain period of time because it broadcast an invitation to murder, an incitement to murder by the voice of Saddam Hussein."

Dubai-based broadcaster aired
message from Saddam Hussein

The offending tape was broadcast on 16 November by al-Arabiya, which was launched this year as a competitor to Aljazeera and has received a number of Saddam recordings since the US-led April invasion.

"Those who are installed by foreign armies ... are in the same situation (as the occupiers), and we have to fight them even before (we fight) the foreign armies," said the voice on the tape, referring to the Governing Council.

US backs decision

The US State Department on Monday backed the Governing Council decision, saying it agreed the station had incited violence.

The council issued strict rules for media reporting in Iraq on 23 September and vowed to keep a close watch to make sure they do not incite violence or comfort supporters of Saddam Hussein.

The five rules were part of a statement announcing that Aljazeera and al-Arabiya had been banned from reporting on government activities for two weeks because of their "irresponsible actions" after an earlier message calling on Iraqis to take up arms and attributed to Saddam.
Aljazeera

[fred_engles]

Oh, great. Another example of going for short term gain with long term costs.

This decisiondoes two bad things:
1) It makes the Governing Council look like US puppets
2) It makes both the American and the Governing Council look like they're afraid of free speech (no American newspaper would get shut down for something like this)

Our only hope in Iraq, short of impossing full long-term martial law, is for Iraqis to feel that they truly are free; and that their government truly represents them, not Paul Bremer or dubya. After decades of oppression, the Iraqi people have learned to expect they're rulers to treat them very poorly indeed. Unless we go out of our way to treat them radically differerently now, they'll never come out of their shells and form a stable civil democratic society.

[jdbjdb]

Arab media is bull****, getting news from a homles man under a bridge, has les spin and is more reliable then state controled arab media, Al Jazeera the first of its kind is still rubbish, Abu Dubai, al-Arabiya Rubbish!

[One?]

Arab media is bull****, getting news from a homles man under a bridge, has les spin and is more reliable then state controled arab media, Al Jazeera the first of its kind is still rubbish, Abu Dubai, al-Arabiya Rubbish!

You hate the arab media because in palestine they show the atrocities, in afghanistan they showed what the stray bombs did to civilians and the same with Iraq. But in Iraq the US bombed the hotel where all the journalists were and they fired a round on the al-jazeera HQ.

Don't say that arab media relies on a hobo because their sources are more acurate than yours.

PS: getting pissed only shows the hatered you have...I thought democracy is all about free media and freedom of thought wtf is going on now? Supressing the media?

[Ratamacue]

One, can you honestly say that the Arab media is a good source for news?

[One?]

One, can you honestly say that the Arab media is a good source for news?

Honestly with all truth yes. During the war on Iraq CNN was lying out of their asses. I don't know if they were doing so to help the US forces but they just were.

For example they said the commander of the 50th division (or a different division) surrendered with all his troops. A couple hours later Al-Jazeera had an interview with the Commander of the Division. Not only that but alot of other cases in Afghanistan. They showed what the US bombs were doing to civilians, and those pictures were never seen on US networks because it will harm the US government.

If they didn't show the truth why would they get targeted 3 times in Iraq, Aghanistan, and Israel? Obviously they are showing stuff that the west doesn't want anyone to see.


Edit: They show saddam and Bin Laden videos but is that a problem? I thought the press was not supposed to be supressed. I don't like what saddam has to say or bin laden but still if the network wants to air it then they should no one should stop them.

[jdbjdb]

US bombed the hotel where all the journalists were and they fired a round on the al-jazeera HQ.

They didn't bomb the hotel, they shot at it because people in the hotel were shooting at American troops, and as for the al jazeera office, that moron Iraqi Info minister was the one who went inside and started shooting his cromed ak-47

[fred_engles]

While I definitely would agree that the arab press is generally not-too-great, from what I hear, it's certainly not generally terrible as a source of news (not editorials), and has sometimes carried the truth when mainstream western sources did not.

Further, One is lebanese, right? It's then worth noting the Lebanese Daily Star (http://www.dailystar.com.lb), which is generally a fairly good newspaper by any standard [and is partnered with the International Herald Tribune, as are Ha'aretz and a number of other well-respected international papers].

EDIT:
To make this clear: The Daily Star is partnered with the IHT. Ha'aretz is partnered the IHT. The Daily Star is not, however, partnered with Ha'aretz.

One is right to note that the Daily Star provides the interesting service of translating some of the Israeli press into English, which I have personally found useful.

[One?]

US bombed the hotel where all the journalists were and they fired a round on the al-jazeera HQ.

They didn't bomb the hotel, they shot at it because people in the hotel were shooting at American troops, and as for the al jazeera office, that moron Iraqi Info minister was the one who went inside and started shooting his cromed ak-47

LOOOOOOOOL no you seriously like to make up stories definatly.

I was watching al jazeera live. The tank rolled up on the birdge (al jazeera was on the other side of the river facing the Palestine Hotel were all the reporters were. Way too far from the bridge not even an RPG would reach). The first tank turned the turret towards the house where the al-jazeera office was. Out of no where it fired its COAX (?) gun, the camera fell down and someone started screaming.

The house next to them was Abu-Dhabi TV. They immediatly ran over there and one of the reportes went to the roof to get the reporter who was pretty shot up. The reporter had to crawl and he managed to get him down. Tarek Alwan died. About 10 or 15 minutes later Abu-Dhabi TV filmed an A-10 flying overhead the palestine hotel and dropped a couple of flares. But because they were on the other side of the hotel they didnt see what happened.

The Tank was firing at the hotel and you could see where the rounds were hitting. They later claimed that snipers were in the hotel. Although all the journalists in the hotel and everyone there said NO ONE FIRED A SHOT or they would of heard it.


The Iraqi Minister was at the palestine hotel an hour before the tanks rolled up and he disappeared in a white toyota pickup truck.


The daily star is a good newspaper, they are ubiased. I believe they only translate the Israeli newspapers (as do other lebanese newspapers) but they are not partners.

[Pyle]

there's only one thing i noticed with the arab media. whatever **** happening to them its not their fault NO...its always the USA's fault, Israel's fault, UK's fault and the list goes on...its never theirs...i think its bad for them to criticize their leaders..or they dont have any balls at all.

[jdbjdb]

I was watching al jazeera live. The tank rolled up on the birdge (al jazeera was on the other side of the river facing the Palestine Hotel were all the reporters were. Way too far from the bridge not even an RPG would reach). The first tank turned the turret towards the house where the al-jazeera office was. Out of no where it fired its COAX (?) gun, the camera fell down and someone started screaming.

Iraqi snipers were using the Palestine hotel as cover taunting Coalition soldiers to return fire, and use that as bull**** propiganda. Tanks apc's come under fire, they have to return fire, American soldiers killed when Iraqi's pretent to surrender then open fire, just like the Palestinians using Red Cresent Ambulances to move weapons, suicide bombers, and exposive belts, and then on the news, IDF shooting at Ambulances when moving injured Palestinian school children while playing out in the streets. Lies Lies Lies

[One?]

there's only one thing i noticed with the arab media. whatever **** happening to them its not their fault NO...its always the USA's fault, Israel's fault, UK's fault and the list goes on...its never theirs...i think its bad for them to criticize their leaders..or they dont have any balls at all.

Have you ever watched arab TV before ? I doubt it so where exactly do you get your info?



Iraqi snipers were using the Palestine hotel as cover taunting Coalition soldiers to return fire, and use that as bull**** propiganda. Tanks apc's come under fire, they have to return fire, American soldiers killed when Iraqi's pretent to surrender then open fire, just like the Palestinians using Red Cresent Ambulances to move weapons, suicide bombers, and exposive belts, and then on the news, IDF shooting at Ambulances when moving injured Palestinian school children while playing out in the streets. Lies Lies Lies

Again I repeat what I said all you do is make up stories and lies that you cannot support. If you are saying that over 200 people lied and all of them did not here any fires being shot then you must be God. Cuz you must of seen those snipers or heard them sitting in your room. Oh wait wasn't it the Iraqi Minister shooting his chromed AK?

[Argyll]

Jdbjdb wrote

They didn't bomb the hotel, they shot at it because people in the hotel were shooting at American troops, and as for the al jazeera office, that moron Iraqi Info minister was the one who went inside and started shooting his cromed ak-47


Ok asshole prove it?

Iraqi snipers were using the Palestine hotel as cover taunting Coalition soldiers to return fire, and use that as bull**** propiganda.

Again prove it,I don't want to see anylinks to any media,or pentagon reports,or any hearsay.........I want to see YOUR stonewall 100% honest to god accurate proof................you're a mouthpiece pal!!Ypur sole intent her as always is to stir up ****e,all this site has become is nothing more than a propaganda tool for buttholes like you to make assinine comment and posts all the time.
This site has lost it's focus,it's nothing but political BS ALL the freakin time now,I used to enjoy coming here and reading good posts about BTDT's service and the new equipment being issued etc,now all it seem to be is a place where insults and inuendo's are traded,and debates about morality from kids who's ball have still to drop!,then there's the stupid kids who all want to rush into combat to "get me some raghead kills",who think that one day they'll be in the CAG or DEVGRU,well kiddies not with **** like that coming from your mouths you won't,these units don't want daydreaming gung ho kids that just want to go and get some CIB crap!!

[budanski]

Hush Argyll. You're ruining it for us. Can't you see we're trying to raise future warmongering piggies? ;)

[Argyll]

Dammit Bud,
Why did ya not tell me you had a "Sleeper"!!!?
:D

[Deuterium]

But in Iraq the US bombed the hotel where all the journalists were and they fired a round on the al-jazeera HQ.


So are you saying that we planned that attack or was it an accident? I don't think anyone would have a complaint if Arab media protrayed all events in the middle east with a critical eye. They don't. Palestinians bombing Israeli children is portrayed as a victory. When they start condeming and portraying these acts as offensive you won't hear anymore complaints from the rest of us.

And yes I have and do watch Arab TV. Hell I spent the 7 months preceeding OIF doing that.

[budanski]

Did you get to check out any good arab ****?

[Vance]

Is there any good arab **** out there?
I hear it's pretty nasty, bro. Camels everywhere.

[California Joe]

By the logic displayed here about Arab media, The Information Minister should be reporting that all the American and British infidels are just about mopped up at this point. :roll:

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Ya alot of people here are quite biased. Sure some of the things arab media says are sometimes full of **** and sometimes not. Its up to the people on the other end to decide whats true and whats not. Of course your decision should be backed up with facts, jdbjdb has done nothing of the sort to prove any of his posts under this thread have any actuall facts other then his own opinion.

[mocking_loudly_died]

I want Arab TV, I would like to see Arabian Idol, the losers apparently get stoned to death and the winner gets their own dictatorship.

Mmmmm, foreign cultures.

[California Joe]

I get a Brazilian channel. I think. It's definately Latin. Lot's of soaps and game shows with very hot women in very tight clothes. I think Arab TV would be much less fun.

[StarvingStudent47]

I love Latin American soap operas (I got into watching them when I was taking Spanish). ***, ***, and just for some balance, a bit of extra ***. And then there's Latin films, which are even more so. Como Agua Para Chocolate? Y Tu Mama Tambien? woot

I once saw an Iranian movie. It was kind of a love story, but the male and female lead weren't allowed to hug or even hold hands. And the female lead couldn't show her hair. It had good character development, but come on, let's have some nookie! Booooooring.