Iraqi Baby to Have Surgery in Israel !!!!

[IDFM203]

“One baby step towards peace”......(yeah I know it sounds way too optimistic, but hey you got to start somewhere........ :D )I think this is a little something in the right direction!! :D


HOLON, Israel - A week-old Iraqi girl checked into an Israeli hospital Tuesday for an emergency heart operation, capping a sequence of events that until recently was inconceivable for the bitter enemies.


Wrapped in a red-and-yellow blanket and held by her mother, tiny Bayan Jassem was met by Israeli doctors at the entrance to the Wolfson Medical Center emergency room with the Arabic greeting "Salam alaikum," or "Welcome."


Akiva Tamir, the hospital's director of pediatric cardiology, took the baby in his arms and carried her to a hospital bed, where he hooked her up to a heart monitor.


Tamir said the arteries to the girl's heart are reversed. Doctors do not know when she will be operated on but said the procedure must be performed within two weeks of the girl's birth.


The baby's trip was organized by the Israeli humanitarian organization Save a Child's Heart.


It became involved after an American doctor working with U.S. forces in Iraq (news - web sites) discovered the defects a day after Bayan's birth in a hospital near Kirkuk in northern Iraq, said Simon Fisher, the organization's executive director.


The doctor contacted American Jonathan Miles, who telephoned Save a Child's Heart and the Wolfson Medical Center to ask if they could perform the operation. The hospital is in Holon, south of Tel Aviv, and has been the foundation's headquarters since its inception in 1995.


"No child in Iraq has ever had this operation done" because there are no doctors there who are trained to perform it, Miles said.


Tamir instructed a doctor in Baghdad by phone on how to perform a minor operation on Bayan to stabilize her condition. She then flew with her parents to Amman, Jordan, before traveling by car to Israel.


The weekend journey probably would have been impossible before the U.S.-led military sweep into Iraq to overthrow Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), a bitter enemy of Israel.


Save a Child's Heart receives most of its funding from donations in Israel, the United States, Canada and Germany. It has provided medical treatment to almost 1,000 children — including more than 300 Palestinians and several Jordanians — since its founding in 1995.

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One-week-old Iraqi infant Bayan Jassem is carried by her mother Iman Majia as her father Abdullah, left, walks next to them upon their arrival to the Wolfson Medical Center near Tel Aviv Tuesday Nov. 25, 2003
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An Israeli doctor and a nurse, right, check one-week-old Iraqi infant Bayan Jassem as her mother Iman Majia and fatherAbdullah, left, stand by upon their arrival to the Wolfson Medical Center near Tel Aviv Tuesday Nov. 25, 2003.
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One-week-old Iraqi infant Bayan Jassem is checked by Israeli doctors upon her arrival to the Wolfson Medical Center near Tel Aviv Tuesday Nov. 25, 2003

[usa320]

Looks like the Great Satan and the zionist entity are up to no good again.

:roll:

[One?]

Its good to see that they're helping someone ..... :roll:

[Roger Rabbit]

Its a shame that the big T's would not approve of this. At least i presume they would not approve of this.

[Jack Mehoff]

The Jews are the devil i tell ya

[StarvingStudent47]

Those Zionist dogs! They must be driven into the sea for their audacity! If only they made an attempt to win hearts and minds, freedom fighters wouldn't feel driven to bomb the infidels.

[StarvingStudent47]

Its a shame that the big T's would not approve of this. At least i presume they would not approve of this.

The big Ts would likely bomb the hospital and then torture the parents to death for collaboration with the Zionist enemy.

[jdbjdb]

Arabs will dismiss it as Israeli propiganda

[budanski]

How many Islamic based charities do we find doing likewise?

[One?]

How many Islamic based charities do we find doing likewise?

Plenty except the US likes to shut them down :)

[usa320]

STFU you pice of dog feces.

[StarvingStudent47]

How many Islamic based charities do we find doing likewise?

Plenty except the US likes to shut them down :)

Yeah, I'm sure hundreds of Jewish babies in Tel Aviv were being helped out by Hamas's funding network before the big mean USA cut those channels :roll:

[California Joe]

Throw one in a wood chipper. Then he could be all dismissive and arrogant about people helping a sick infant. While his legs get shredded as he screams like a bitch. You filthy piece of ****. It's easy to be a revolutionary on the internet, just like I can guarantee I'd beat you to death. I have more respect for John Walker Lindh, at least his delusional, can't get pussy in America so I'll go where they wear veils and have to listen, perverted ass backed up his bull**** beliefs. You are pathetic and enjoying the liberties afforded you by the corrupt world you disdain. You make me sick. I hope you're too young to realize how stupid you are. Puke.

[One?]

STFU you pice of dog feces.

expected from scum like you :D '


StarvingStudent I thought you were talking about muslim organizations helping children. Not Israelis though. But why would they? Israel is medicaly advanced they can take of their own children right? I mean Iraq hasn't been allowed to import anything in the last decade so they lack medical equipment.

Whats wrong with Israel helping out an arab? At least they would change sharon's image of the "sensless butcher".

[StarvingStudent47]

StarvingStudent I thought you were talking about muslim organizations helping children. Not Israelis though. But why would they? Israel is medicaly advanced they can take of their own children right? I mean Iraq hasn't been allowed to import anything in the last decade so they lack medical equipment.

Whats wrong with Israel helping out an arab? At least they would change sharon's image of the "sensless butcher".

I was talking about acts of kindness and charity toward the civilian population of "the other side." We don't have to be talking about heart surgery here. I'm talking about ANY sort of "gesture of good will." You know, how Americans and Israelis are helping an Iraqi baby who they'd never seen before and will probably never see again after the surgery. You're right on one point though--I've never seen any Arab leader express any interest in improving the lives of Israelis.

I support acts of charity like this by the United States and Israel towards Arab civilians. I support attempts to "win hearts and minds" whether you're talking about 1945 Berlin or 2003 Gaza. But I know damned well that there will never be any acts of charity, kindness, or goodwill coming in the other direction. Why not?


Not Israelis though. But why would they?
That says it all. "Good faith gestures" only seem to ever go one way.

[IDFM203]

Ok I was hoping that this would be a positive thread…but hey that’s too much to ask for…… :roll: so in reponse....



Israel is medicaly advanced they can take of their own children right? I mean Iraq hasn't been allowed to import anything in the last decade so they lack medical equipment. ". yeah but what about Jordan or other countires…this had nothing to do with those sanctions. why did this baby end up in israel??..I will tell you why. Its because even the Arab countries that were “not denied equipment” however due to their totalitarian dictatorships where they never bothered to invest in quality education for their populations (expect for a few elite) that produces fine and great hospitals.

Now Israel took that baby for it was a humanitarian and correct thing to do and it would have done it even in the saddam hussain regime (although he probably would have let that baby die rather then sending it to Israel)


Whats wrong with Israel helping out an arab? ". absolutely nothing, its just too bad that I never see the reverse happening!!



At least they would change sharon's image of the "sensless butcher". no matter who the Israeli leader is, they have these ridicules titles to them. The Israeli image in the Arab world is not based on any realties or facts.

But anyways I don’t want to go back and forth about sharons image in the Arab world, Ill just say that I am still waiting for the Arabs, any Arab nation, to make these types of goodwill gestures to Israel to try to change their butcher’s and murderous image that they have.

shalom :D

[One?]

Actualy all arab countries are mediacly advanced except for a few (east coast and somalia, yemen). The rest are all educated and have the money.

Alot of Iraqi kids were taken to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia for treatment they dont have to show every single one on tv. The Saudi Army opened a hospital in Iraq to help out.

Why did that boy go to Israel I have no clue I'm more confused than you.

Israel and the US are more than allies. So you can't compare that to arabs and Israelis.

Arabs won't help the Israeli's in acts of kindness and charity because the IDF is still abusing the rights of palestinians and becuase of the wars that are going on.


I will shut up now to keep this thread jack free :)

[budanski]

I mean Iraq hasn't been allowed to import anything in the last decade so they lack medical equipment.

Iraq got the aid. Saddam just felt that his palaces were more important.

[One?]

I mean Iraq hasn't been allowed to import anything in the last decade so they lack medical equipment.

Iraq got the aid. Saddam just felt that his palaces were more important.

Nope they weren't allowed to import certain stuff due to sanctions. The UN said that he could use medical supplies to make WMD. And in return thousands of Iraqis died.

[IDFM203]

Actualy all arab countries are mediacly advanced except for a few (east coast and somalia, yemen). The rest are all educated and have the money.

Alot of Iraqi kids were taken to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia for treatment they dont have to show every single one on tv. The Saudi Army opened a hospital in Iraq to help out. a Saudi hospital with Saudi trained doctors??? They have top quality medial schools in Saudi Arabia that’s not run by foreigners?? Seriously I am curious if this is actually a Saudi thing or its staffed by foreign nationals.


Why did that boy go to Israel I have no clue I'm more confused than you actually Israel had to get this baby through Jordan.. Again why didn’t it stay in Jordan?? You say your confused well it figures but I am not. And you know exactly why I am not. (But I guess after yesterday’s google and yahoo search thing, we should leave this one here ;) )
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Arabs won't help the Israeli's in acts of kindness and charity because the IDF is still abusing the rights of palestinians and becuase of the wars that are going on. and with that logic we shouldn’t help out any Arab due to the Palestinians murdering and blowing up our women and children and also all the wars where the arabs wanted to kill us all.

The point is that we feel that way and you feel the opposite, but when it came down to a humanitarian human thing, Israel did not hesitate while there would be no such reciprocation on the Arab side if Israel needed this type of act from them.



I will shut up now to keep this thread jack free :) yeah but you already jacked it with your first post here and then others had followed so good luck but somehow I think you'll be back here ;)

shalom :D

[StarvingStudent47]

Arabs won't help the Israeli's in acts of kindness and charity because the IDF is still abusing the rights of palestinians and becuase of the wars that are going on.

You just don't get it, do you? Palestinians try to murder Israelis EVERY EFFING DAY. Yet Israel can still "take the moral high road" with hundreds of Arab babies like this. If Israelis thought the way you're thinking, this baby would be dead right now.

[Jack Mehoff]

One doesn't give a **** about that baby. Why? he only has the beef with the Jews. Now go burn some cross asshole.

[One?]

One doesn't give a f*** about that baby. Why? he only has the beef with the Jews. Now go burn some cross asshole.


I thought only your KKK buddies burn the cross.


I'm sure there are israelis who want to kill me for being an arab. I don't hate jews otherwise I wouldn't be talking to any of the jews on this board. I would simply swear and say "lets kill'em all", "turn them to vapor" etc... :)


And if they wanna help the baby good for them I don't think anyone is opposing that. The US army helped wounded iraqi soldeirs they didn't let them die.


You people should learn how to be like IDFm203. The world will be a much happier place. At least he served in the IDF and when he talks he doesn't talk like a 5 year old he talks like someone who is willing to make peace not someone who wants to bitch all day.


IDf check this link out. Arab hospitals :) http://www.arabmedicare.com/

[Javehn]

Hahaha , my dear man One
As i understand , you are arabic from Lebanon , and as 99 percent of arabic persons , you feel the same thing about IDF conductions . I would be like to correct you . I myself do feel that the IDF conducts "overprotective" actions in west bank (not in Gaza streep) , but that's during the fact that the Idf is streatched to it's abbilities. What to do , IDF is not U.S army full of personnel and enough budget , and the "Line of Contact" and "Last line of Troops" (millitary determination) , that in normal war supposed to be as far as possible from each other , are very very minimal in Israel's case , leaving no margin for error (example , distance between Jenin and Israeli city Afula is 16 km ) .
This fact making Israeli army conduct in that matter , like impose blockades .I do agree that it's harming people who live there , and making them even more ungry , but it's almost inpossible to stop bombers otherwise ( I holp all of you smartasses in here understand that , if not , i suggest you to live some time or in Israel,or in west bank ...) . As for personal conduct of soldiers ,99 percent of them behaving inpeckible . But , its not the subject of this thread , so ...

And to our matter , why this baby in Israel , i think the Israeli head of hospital "Volfson" suggested that idea to "Save child's heart" organization, just saw it in the news yesterday. Iraqi infant Baiyan Jazzam was operated yesterday succesfully in Israeli hospital "Volfson"

[IDFM203]

First to “One” first I appreciate the kind words to me for your right that although we totally disagree, at least its at a respectful tone in our dialogue. I appreciate that for obviously we have discussed a lot of “hot” topics and nothing is off limits but at least we don’t flame each other. With that said I want to clarify that yes I want peace and I am glad you recognise that, but with your attitudes (here with the baby and in other posts) and with most or a lot of the Arab worlds attitudes, I am afraid it is wishful thinking on my part.

I am sure you recognise that I am not some lefty that is willing to fall for some suicidal process simply because a few Arabs said some nice token things in English (while most or a lot others say the exact opposite in Arabic). Like I said before, I was against Oslo and that wasn’t because I didn’t want any peace. For I did, but I knew it wasn’t a sincere effort by the Arabs (Palestinians) and as such I wasn’t willing to support a process where we give away land for nothing in return or more killings (which is exactly what happened). (oh and the gull and idiocy of Israeli left government to give them thousands of weapons right after that signing is beyond rational……but hey that’s way off topic.) So yes I want peace but a true and sincere peace not one where we give land over to people with your or worse attitudes.

Lastly as for that website. Again I know that there are hospitals and medical centres in the Arabic world, I never contested that, No what I am curious is if they are staffed by Arab staff that were trained in Arabic countries in Arabic medial schools (is there any?? :roll: ) for my understanding of it is that its not and that there are a disproportionate amount of foreigners and the ones that are Arabs were trained in the west (like in the U.S. or UK etc…). That website didn’t answer my question….but hey nice try ;)


To javhen. Good post!! I have said that before and I understand that there is suffering on both sides, but Israel simply has no choice when faced with the type of homicidal bomber onslaught that it is facing on a daily bases, regardless of what Israel does or doesn’t do.

Oh and I appreciate you recognizing the professionalism of 99% of the troops or as you say “behaving inpeckible”, that truth unfortunately isnt being shown in the worlds press, I am glad that not everyone is fooled by their bias and their false editing.

Shalom to all :D