160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment

[Creeper]

No worries,,,,,

[AlphaOneSix]

Yup. More like multi-role ground crews or something?


Ahh gotcha. The answer is no, for the most part.

First of all, mechanics in one service never work on aircraft in another service, at least for U.S. forces. This is probably because they are almost never colocated, except in the case of the Marines and Navy, so there may be some overlap there.

Second, certain specialties work on different platforms. For example, a "hydraulics and pneumatics" guy will work on anything hydraulic or pneumatic, regardless of the airframe, and sheet metal guys will work on on anything, and so will most engine specialists, they can work on all engines.

But these are specialists, and that is ALL they can work on. So for the engine guys, they can't do hydraulic work of sheet metal work, just engines.

Then there are mechanics specific to a particular airframe, but they are responsible for more general maintenance and inspections, and in these cases, they are only allowed to work on the aircraft that matches their job description. For example, I was an Apache mechanic, so I could only work on Apaches. Sure, I helped out the Black Hawk and Kiowa guys on occasion, but not very often, and when I did, it was just as a helper under direct supervision doing very simple tasks. SImilarly, while I was not authorized to perform engine or sheet metal repairs, etc., I often helped them out or watched over their shoulder to 1) make sure my baby was being taken care of, and 2) to learn more about all facets of maintenance. Even though I practiced at things like riveting, I was not allowed to actually do any of that specialist work in any official capacity.

[Sand Man]

Even though I practiced at things like riveting, I was not allowed to actually do any of that specialist work in any official capacity.

But you can qualify, right?

[AlphaOneSix]

But you can qualify, right?

Not while in the military, no. They are pretty strict about that sort of thing. I'm about to get my civilian (FAA) certification for maintenance and with that I can work on absolutely anything, but the military doesn't do it that way. You have your job and that's all you do unless you switch to a new job.

[Flyboy]

Ahh gotcha. The answer is no, for the most part.

First of all, mechanics in one service never work on aircraft in another service, at least for U.S. forces. This is probably because they are almost never colocated, except in the case of the Marines and Navy, so there may be some overlap there.

Second, certain specialties work on different platforms. For example, a "hydraulics and pneumatics" guy will work on anything hydraulic or pneumatic, regardless of the airframe, and sheet metal guys will work on on anything, and so will most engine specialists, they can work on all engines.

But these are specialists, and that is ALL they can work on. So for the engine guys, they can't do hydraulic work of sheet metal work, just engines.

Then there are mechanics specific to a particular airframe, but they are responsible for more general maintenance and inspections, and in these cases, they are only allowed to work on the aircraft that matches their job description. For example, I was an Apache mechanic, so I could only work on Apaches. Sure, I helped out the Black Hawk and Kiowa guys on occasion, but not very often, and when I did, it was just as a helper under direct supervision doing very simple tasks. SImilarly, while I was not authorized to perform engine or sheet metal repairs, etc., I often helped them out or watched over their shoulder to 1) make sure my baby was being taken care of, and 2) to learn more about all facets of maintenance. Even though I practiced at things like riveting, I was not allowed to actually do any of that specialist work in any official capacity.



There are some rarities on working with other services' aircraft. Back in '04 I had to work with the army on their helos and the USMC on their Huey. However I work with a DoD-wide program so it's more common for us to work on aircfraft just as long as we have the right technical data and someone to answer questions for us.

[Sand Man]

OK. Thanks, guys -- AlphaOneSix, Creeper, Flyboy.

Sorry bout that, Ravage. I know you love this thread... :)

Now back on track. I hope someone's got new SOAR pics to post.

[Ravage]

Night Stalkers celebrate 25th Anniversary

U.S. Army Special Operations Command
Public Affairs Office

FORT BRAGG, N.C. (USASOC News Service, October 19, 2006) — Night Stalkers past and present traveled from near and far for three days commemorating the 25th Anniversary of Army Special Operations Aviation.

Night Stalker leadership from the past 25 years along with key leaders from the special operations community held a conference at Fort Campbell, Ky., October 12-13. Attendees discussed the successes and challenges that defined the organization to ensure that lessons learned and opportunities for enhancement are not lost. Leaders also discussed where special operations forces (SOF) are in the fight today, how SOF will be engaged in the future and how the 160th fits into the long-term war-fighting picture.

Current and former Night Stalkers and their families also had an opportunity to visit the compound at Fort Campbell to see the latest in special operations aviation aircraft and technology during an open house.

On the 13th, more than 70 founding Night Stalkers were present for a recognition ceremony in their honor on the unit compound. These men represent the beginning of the unit’s history and became the foundation of the ARSOA legacy. The significance of this gathering was not lost on the Night Stalker community. Founders were met with a crowd of more than 250 current and former Night Stalkers, employees, families and friends.

Col. Kevin Mangum, Commander, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), welcomed the founding Night Stalkers. He said the ceremony was a time to pause and reflect on where the regiment came from and to recognize, 25 years later, those who blazed the trail to make this day and world’s most capable helicopter unit possible.

“The regiment today hardly resembles the 160th of old,” said Mangum.

He explained that the 160th has grown in personnel strength, aircraft fleet size and now has a presence outside of Fort Campbell on the East and West coasts. What remains the same is the regiment’s commitment to service, excellence and sacrifice.

“Innovation is still a hallmark of Night Stalking,” he said. “Our Systems Integration and Maintenance Office is working nearly 200 active projects.”

These projects range from small enhancements to the 160th fleet like improved seats for all of the unit’s aircraft to multi-million or billion dollar programs like the new MH-/AH-6M “Little Bird,” the MH-47G Chinook and the future MH60-M Black Hawk.

“Green Platoon has a come a long way as well,” said Mangum. “Our Special Operations Aviation Training Company provided world class training to over 500 Soldiers last year in 23 separate programs of instruction.”

He said that while the work of SMIO and SOATC are impressive, they field the most capable systems and Soldiers for the regiment to accomplish its most important task – war fighting. Today, several hundred Night Stalkers are currently deployed in support of multiple joint task forces in multiple locations in the U.S. Central Command Area of Responsibility.

“They accomplish more real world operations in a night than many a Night Stalker performed in their entire career,” said Mangum. “The precision and bravery of these crews is inspiring. Watching them would make your eyes water.”

A force ready, willing and able to accomplish missions others can’t do, don’t do or won’t do is the founder’s legacy.

“Today’s Night Stalkers are the world’s most capable helicopter force,” Mangum told the founders. “That, gentlemen, is your legacy. Those of us serving today owe you a huge debt of gratitude for your service and for forging a standard of excellence for us to emulate.”

Representing the founders with remarks was the first Task Force 160 Commander; Col. (retired) Jacob B. Couch. He recognized the men who helped build this organization from nothing and who set the standard for others to carry on. He acknowledged the importance of the mission for today’s generation of Night Stalkers. His simple concluding remarks spoke to the heart of every man and woman formerly and currently in the 160th. “Night Stalkers Don’t Quit.”

A formal marked the anniversary celebration’s conclusion on October 14 as an opportunity for current and former Night Stalkers to spend time with family and friends. The regiment’s continuous support of the Global War on Terrorism makes such an opportunity a welcome rarity.

The guest speaker for the formal was Gen. Bryan “Doug” Brown, commander of U.S. Special Operations Command and former 160th SOAR (A) regimental commander. He offered reflections from personal experiences in the early days of the unit and his observations of the unit from his current position.

Brown said the failure to rescue hostages in Iran during Operation Desert One grew the incredible special operations force this Nation owns today. “That failure was the genesis of the creation of the 160th. For the first time in history, America had a real special operations helicopter force.

I am constantly reminded that what we thought was tough, dangerous duty in 1980 is now considered routine for today’s Night Stalkers,” he continued. “The distances, the altitudes, the illumination and the challenges we faced you conquer nightly.”

Even with extreme heat and unbelievable dust, Brown said the Night Stalkers make it look easy, every time, night after night. “Words truly cannot describe your feats of valor, bravery and dedication.”

Brown also recognized the sacrifice and support from Night Stalker families.

“No decision to deploy your family members is made without considering the impact on the families,” he reassured. “I know the support you give and the sacrifices you make, and I thank each and every one of you. You are magnificent."

Commemorating the first 25 years

To commemorate the first 25 years of Army Special Operations Aviation, the Night Stalker Association (NSA) commissioned renowned military and aviation artist James Dietz to visually tell the Night Stalker story.

“With the 25th anniversary coming up we thought it was appropriate to commission an artist to capture the spirit of the organization across the spectrum from beginning to present,” explained NSA President Command Sgt. Maj. (retired) Donnie Calvery, Jr. “Jim Dietz’s reputation for military art was well known and had been used throughout the special operations community with outstanding results. We felt he was the right one to capture the essence of Night Stalking.”

Dietz said documenting the Night Stalkers’ 25th Anniversary is pretty important to him, personally and professionally.

“I’ve looked forward to doing a job with the 160th for a long time,” said Dietz. “One of the gentlemen I worked with at the (Command and General Staff College) some years ago had worked at the 160th.” Over the years, he asked when Dietz was going to do a painting for the 160th. “Now I can tell him, in a very nice way, that I have.”

Dietz’s goal was primarily to capture the professionalism of the unit which he did through stance, gesture and composition in the painting. The NSA wanted to ensure he captured the history of the unit including the equipment, look and unit’s organization which he did through pieces of equipment and flight gear. Dietz believes he captured all of the above in his painting. “What I think will come out of the painting will be the pride in the unit and the pride in what they do.”

Having only read and heard about the 160th before this project, Dietz believes that meeting current and former Night Stalkers while he was researching this project gave him a better perspective on the organization itself and the Soldiers who define it.

“I think being there with your feet on the ground teaches you more about the men and women in the unit than I would have known otherwise,” he explained. “The one thing I did learn was about the training and years of dedication it takes to make a crew man or a pilot and the kind of devotion it takes to continue on that path for this very specialized elite part of helicopter ops in today’s military.”

Today’s Special Operations Aviation Regiment

The 160th SOAR(A) is comprised of four battalions on military installations in three states. The regimental headquarters is collocated with the 1st and 2nd battalions at Fort Campbell, 3rd Bn. is located at Hunter Army Airfield, Ga., and 4th Bn. is located at Fort Lewis, Wash. The regiment also has a Special Operations Aviation Training Company (SOATC) at Fort Campbell.

Regiment wide, there are currently 21 companies with approximately 2,200 personnel. Two additional companies have been provisionally approved. Soldiers represent 60 enlisted, 13 warrant and 23 officer military occupational specialties. They work side by side with about 300 Army civilians and contractors to accomplish the mission.

The 160th still employs the latest, specially crafted models of three types of aircraft: MH-60 Black Hawks, MH-47 Chinooks and AH/MH-6 “Little Birds.” Each aircraft is continually tested in training and combat, with thoughts progressing to the next generation of these aircraft required to accomplish the special operations forces mission.

While engaging in continuous combat operations, the regiment is also focusing on the future. ARSOA will remain relevant in the long war, continue transforming to best support special operations mission and training requirements and continue conducting research and development to further SOF aviation capabilities.


While not a formal part of the silver anniversary festivities. always in the background of all who participated was the 75 Night Stalkers who have fallen since the unit’s founding.

http://news.soc.mil/releases/06Oct/Brown.jpg
Gen. Bryan “Doug” Brown, commander of U.S. Special Operations Command and former 160th SOAR(A) regimental commander, was the guest speaker during the Regiment’s 25th Anniversary Formal. (Photo by Ruth Farwell, 160th SOAR(A))

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A Night Stalker family member learns about the M-134 “mini-gun” mounted on a MH-60 Black Hawk during the 160th SOAR(A) open house in conjunction with the Regiment's 25th anniversary. (Photo by Ruth Farwell, 160th SOAR(A))

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Founding Night Stalkers stand to be recognized during a ceremony in their honor. The ceremony was held in conjunction with the Regiment’s 25th Anniversary. (Photo by Ruth Farwell, 160th SOAR(A))

[Peiper_76]

Ah man.... Goldman is gone? that really sucks.

[Ravage]

Nope, Goldman is still here, just now right now :)

[Peiper_76]

Nope, Goldman is still here, just now right now :)

Awesome!

That would have been a huge loss for the forum!

[Ravage]

Does anyone have this book by any chance ?

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7861/451qm3.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=451qm3.jpg)

[SAPPEROIF]

General Brown is a pretty cool guy. I actually went to WOCS and part of Flight School with his Son-in-law

[Ravage]

Hi SAPPEROIF, long time no talk :)

BTW, congrads on your WO1 woot

[SAPPEROIF]

Hi SAPPEROIF, long time no talk :)

BTW, congrads on your WO1 woot

Sup bro.
Yea just staying busy here. Thanks for the congrads though, been WO1 since June 05. Been through part of flight school..on a hold now until a spot opens back up at my hour level.
Hope you are doing well.:)

[gowen816]

Does anyone have this book by any chance ?

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7861/451qm3.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=451qm3.jpg)
The Plushies book? Yes.

[Ravage]

Is it good ? I'm thinking about getting it from ebay (you can't get it here in Poland).

[D-gin]

Is it good ? I'm thinking about getting it from ebay (you can't get it here in Poland).

Hey ravage, I have that book you will enjoy it....:)

[gowen816]

Is it good ? I'm thinking about getting it from ebay (you can't get it here in Poland).
It's not bad. A lot of the pictures are ones that have already been published. If you know anything about the organization you won't learn much more, but there are a lot of pics of personnel and equpment.

[AlphaOneSix]

Ravage, you have got to get that book. I mean, you can't be a 160th afficionado without it! (Well, maybe you can, but having the book really helps!)

Anyway, it's a great book. You've probably seen all of the pictures, but I'm sure you'll enjoy it. I know I love my copy! (I had to say it.)

[Christophe]

160th DAP video:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1293703559

[yasotay]

Hey SapperOIF, which 'bubble' you stuck in?

[SAPPEROIF]

Hey SapperOIF, which 'bubble' you stuck in?
Unfortunately I am not in a bubble. I was in class had a med issue pop up, got my up-slip and now I am just waiting for a spot at my flight hour level to become available so I can get back in.

[yasotay]

Well glad to hear your go-to-go with the up-slip.

[Solidox]

http://news.soc.mil/releases/06Oct/Founders.jpg

anyone know where i can get the hires of this?

[D-gin]

Rangers rope into NASCAR
DATE POSTED:NOVEMBER 1, 2006

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/87/0000000001zk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7021/000000000er3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Aviators and crew members from U.S. Army Special Operations Command out of Fort Bragg, N.C., and the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) out of Fort Campbell, Ky., delivered a team of Army Rangers from the 75th Ranger Regiment out of Fort Benning, Ga., to the infield during pre-race ceremonies at the NASCAR Bass Pro Shops 500 race at the Atlanta Motor Speedway Sunday. (160th SOAR(A) photo)

[Ravage]

More SOAR:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1306572939

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1304238886

[Ravage]

160th mission planning includes 96Ds

By Kimberly T. Laudano
160th SOAR Public Affairs

FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. (USASOC News Service, Nov. 20, 2006) – Mission planning occurs at every level, from commanders down to the most junior enlisted Soldiers.

Soldiers know that some sort of planning is conducted before missions, but few probably give much thought to who is involved in the process. Initial thoughts are likely connected to operations, but there are a variety of force multipliers in the process.

An essential example for the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) is the imagery analyst, 96D military occupational specialty, which falls under the S-2 shop’s intelligence responsibilities.

Night Stalker 96Ds have an integral part of the planning process. During combat, they sit in the operations center and provide direct support to commanders’ and aviators’ mission planning. Their job is to examine images related to a combat mission and provide the air crews with critical information about what they may encounter during flight and on the target.

“Although assignments can be executed when some personnel are not available, there is always a 96D,” said Staff Sgt. Jonnathan Kirkland, an imagery non–commissioned officer in Headquarters, 160th SOAR(A). “The information we provide is paramount to a mission’s success.”

One example is analyzing imagery of a potential landing zone for a target. “We examine terrain near a target area to determine the best landing zones for our aircraft to land,” explained Sgt. Carl Blimline, an imagery analyst also in the regiment’s headquarters. “We look for vertical obstructions like wires, poles, power lines, trees, and at the physical terrain like slope and the HLZ size so the aviators know their limits to work with.”

It is a fast-paced job that demands accurate and timely information. The length of mission planning time varies depending on the circumstances. Night Stalkers have the flexibility and adaptability to spend hours or moments in planning for missions depending on the current situation.

“You have time to plan, but you also have to be ready to support aviators in real-time during combat operations,” said Kirkland. “We have to be present during operations to help the crews adapt to mission changes as information changes.”

With so much riding on the details Night Stalker imagery analysts provide, training the right Soldier for the mission is a must. This includes familiarization with everything from the tools imagery analysts use to integration in training and finally integration into combat missions.

“We start by giving new Soldiers an opportunity to examine missions we’ve already done and to become familiar with the software we use,” said Blimline. “This gives them an idea of what happens (in certain scenarios) and what we look for in analysis.”

Soldiers then train with fellow Night Stalkers during routine aviation and then train-like-you-fight simulated combat exercises. This process builds experience and confidence in the 96D’s role and responsibility supporting the 160th’s mission.

“In this unit you are given an assignment and expected to do your job.” said Kirkland. For this reason, he looks for Soldiers that are fast learners, self motivated and that take pride in their work. “The individual must embrace challenges and work well independently.”

Kirkland said his experience at the 160th has challenged him to be the best Soldier he can be. “I know that if I can be successful in the high paced atmosphere of this unit then I will be able to be successful at any future assignment or venture that I take on.”

The pace and level of responsibility are a challenge, but one Kirkland believes is worth taking on. “The 160th is the place to come if you want to do imagery and actually see your work put to use,” he said. “The feeling of pride that comes with being a part of something special is hard to describe. It’s really something you just have to experience.”


For Soldiers considering volunteering for assignment with the 160th, combat experience is valuable but not necessarily a requirement. “They mostly need to be assertive, independent and want a challenging career,” said Kirkland. “If you have those traits and are willing to work hard you will fit in well in this unit.”

Editor’s note: this is the fourth story in a series on 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne).

Soldiers interested in learning more about assignments with the 160th can get additional information from the 160th recruiting page on the Fort Campbell Web site or contact Sgt. 1st Class Lagasse at 270-798-6504 (DSN 635) or via e-mail at (lagasseb@soar.army.mil).

[Ravage]

Reposts I know, but still love them p-)

http://www.youtube.com/v/QReQ4eOURMk

this one is mine p-)
http://www.youtube.com/v/S96TbNsTbb4

[D-gin]

I always did like that video you made Ravage....:)

[Ravage]

What can I say, the MH-6 has a very special place in my hart woot

BUT I fear that the days of the killer egg are numbered. Lets face it, its over/almost 50 years since it was first adopted into the service. I won't be long, 10-15 years and then what ? I don't think they will be able to replace the MH-6...ever. Thanks to MP.net and Blackhawk Down the Killer Egg is now IMMORTAL woot

[D-gin]

What can I say, the MH-6 has a very special place in my hart woot

BUT I fear that the days of the killer egg are numbered. Lets face it, its over/almost 50 years since it was first adopted into the service. I won't be long, 10-15 years and then what ? I don't think they will be able to replace the MH-6...ever. Thanks to MP.net and Blackhawk Down the Killer Egg is now IMMORTAL woot

Well it's going to be damn hard to find a suitable replacement, Let's just hope that whatever the Army chooses it's just as sexy as the Killer Egg....p-)

[Sand Man]

More SOAR:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1306572939

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1304238886

What was the first video all about? Looks like they shot the heck out of those cars...

[mohawkALSE]

What can I say, the MH-6 has a very special place in my hart woot

BUT I fear that the days of the killer egg are numbered. Lets face it, its over/almost 50 years since it was first adopted into the service. I won't be long, 10-15 years and then what ? I don't think they will be able to replace the MH-6...ever. Thanks to MP.net and Blackhawk Down the Killer Egg is now IMMORTAL woot

Its almost 40 yrs, 2007 would be 40 from its offical entrence in service of the OH-6A in 1967. My father flew em in Vietnam, and interesting side note if you ever read Mike Durants book; "In The Company of Heros" the MH-6 he was checked out in back in 1996 was a sistership of one my father flew in Vietnam with the 101st. My fathers was 67-16050 and the one in Durants book was 67-16058. I was surprised to see that, not often you see serials so close from such a span of time. Im sure most of the training MH-6As they used were right from the 101st old OH-6A surplus anyways.

[yasotay]

Someday perhaps the MH and AH-6 will be retired. However I do not see that happening anytime soon. For the mission that they use it for there are very few aircraft that meet their requirements. Close in support and putting packages in very confined areas. That and fitting in C-130.

I suspect that it will be a while before it gets replaced. Perhaps the Bell X-Hawk if it ever comes to fruition.

[RECON DOC]

I miss Goldman :-(

[D-gin]

I miss Goldman :-(

Here, here......:|

[Sand Man]

I see a lot of killer eggs passing overhead daily nowadays. People are getting ready for the ASEAN summit around here.

[w1ldcard]

Here, here......:|

we all do guys.

[variable]

How come he got banned again?

[Ravage]

I see a lot of killer eggs passing overhead daily nowadays. People are getting ready for the ASEAN summit around here.

well, then start taking photos man p-)

[Sand Man]

well, then start taking photos man p-)

I'm thinking exactly the same thing. Two problems, though:

1) Getting inside the airbase, and
2) Getting close enough of the birds and snap some pics

Well, as they say: "If there is a will...."

[ejlee7829]

http://mae.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=ARCHI&ARTICLE_ID=277353&VERSION_NUM=2&p=32

[Ravage]

http://www.youtube.com/v/pmPJKjbHCBc

[Ravage]

US Army: MH-6 Could Be Manned-Unmanned 'Convertible' Option

Boeing is studying a plan to offer a dual-mode version of the MH-6 MELB 'Little Bird' - manned and unmanned - following a test program set to begin later this year. The aircraft - a modified MD-530F - is currently undergoing piloted check-out at Boeing's Mesa plant. Boeing officials confirm only 'that a programme is going ahead' but are not ready to release details. However, it is undersatood the concept of a 'convertible' Little Bird has been around for some time - and may have been under discussion since events in Mogadishu when TF 160 Little Birds played a major role in offering screening protection to combatants on the ground. Under the concept, an MELB crew would take the aircraft 'in range' of a hot spot, then send it on either on an autonomously guided flight plan, or under direct control of a ground operator. Center of gravity requirements would be met by adding ballast. The concept of operations does not, at this point, envisage the UAV operating as a gun or missile platform, but it is certainly seen as an EO/IR platform and communications relay to provide tactical ISR support for ground operations. A sling-load capability is also being studied to allow re-supply to engaged units. Sources suggest the control 'package' for allowing the aircraft to convert to unmanned status is extremely compact assembled from existing components available in the avionics/control field - in other words it will not require an extensive IRAD (independent R&D programme) to achieve. Sources say all the current MELB fleet owned by the 160th SOAR could be converted so that armed/unmanned force packages could be quickly assembled when needed. Test flights of the unmanned version are scheduled to begin in October. There was no word on whether such an installed option would be part of Boeing's proposal in an upcoming armed reconnaissance helicopter programme. The 160th SOAR, Ft Campbell, Ky is known for innovative (relatively) fast-track procurements. Current Army CoS Gen Peter Schoomaker - a special ops adherent - has called on industry for innovative responses to operational needs.

[yasotay]

At this point the concept remains a Boeing attempt to sell something to the Army. Very doubtful that the Regiment will use an unmanned gunship, their customer probably would not be to keen on that. There are other assets available assets to do the reconnaissance that are less visible. I suppose there might be some missions the unmanned MELB might do, but with a need for more MH-47G and MH-60 I don't see them spending money on it.

The Bell 407 won the Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter (the ARH-70) competion last year and is already flying with the Army Test Command.

[Ravage]

A new vid:

http://www.youtube.com/v/_-Y3aOzHl4g

Including EXELLENT Little Bird photage woot

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/346/mh6nyra9.jpg

[helomech]

While I was never a part of the TF,I've met a lot of the guys who were attached to it while they were active,they're sharp guys.NSEDQ!Nightstalkers Eat Dairy Queen baby!!!!!!Hahahahahaha........I know,bad joke

[helomech]

Exactly where was this pic taken of the Wee-Bird?

[helomech]

Is it just me or are the skids on this version really short?
Where's this helo at?

[helomech]

That pic of the tan little bird is an Army little bird?I thought their helos' were all OD or black

[DUCKIE]

Great video Ravage, love Johnny Cash(RIP).

[Creeper]

Killer work "Ravage"- Johnny Cash, is tha man !
Good on ya!

[Ravage]

Its not my work, I've just found it on google.

[Creeper]

Its not my work, I've just found it on google.
Ha- ever the humble man.

[yasotay]

That pic of the tan little bird is an Army little bird?I thought their helos' were all OD or black

Think it is a Blackwater aircraft, or maybe a 'company' aircraft. To my knowledge the Regiment is not using 530's.

[D-gin]

Think it is a Blackwater aircraft, or maybe a 'company' aircraft. To my knowledge the Regiment is not using 530's.

That helo has been discussed many, many times on this forum and on SOCNET and thus far no one has any good info on it, But we know it's not a PMC aircraft.


I'm not trying to start an argument or anything I'm just saying what has been stated before.....Cheers.

[Ravage]

Talked to the guys at socnet, they don't know whose bird is it exactly, but yes its not one of 160th.

BTW, hello everybody :hug:

[Ravage]

Got some more MH-47 pics. Warning, some maybe reposts, and I'm not sure that all are MH's:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2029/12930131lki3.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7995/12930309lcx0.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7193/13405653mwn9.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9141/12930939lei6.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6402/12930940mue2.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/849/12930949mjb3.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5449/12930950mnm3.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9629/12930952mpd2.jpg

[Ravage]

A myspace vid:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1149095874

Description: This is my squad fast roping with special forces last year (before we left for Iraq).

[Echo300]

Nice vid, Ravage

[Ravage]

A little bird landing on top of one of Uday's palaces:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1120693647

and a DAP making hell p-)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=692774921

[Ravage]

Ok stupid question. For what reason in there a co-pilot in a MH-6 ? why do you need two people ?

[Creeper]

Ok stupid question. For what reason in there a co-pilot in a MH-6 ? why do you need two people ?

IMHO: 2 heads are better than one.

BTW: Never a 'stupid question'- just the one that is not asked!!!

[Ravage]

MH-60K Blackhawks:

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9522/0922374rh1.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7016/0642506mo0.jpg

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/7191/0311482hf7.jpg

[maloryII]

Ok stupid question. For what reason in there a co-pilot in a MH-6 ? why do you need two people ?

There are dozens of reasons... but the most basic (and morbid) is should one pilot be killed or otherwise suffer a demise, you still have one pilot left to fly the aircraft.

[playtym]

I don't think these have been posted here before - apologies for any reposts.

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[Ravage]

Some are reposts, but some a hires of those that have been posted....thank you woot

[Ravage]

There are dozens of reasons... but the most basic (and morbid) is should one pilot be killed or otherwise suffer a demise, you still have one pilot left to fly the aircraft.

So what does the co-pilot do during an op. ? sits on his ass and enjoyes the view ? p-)

[AlphaOneSix]

So what does the co-pilot do during an op. ? sits on his ass and enjoyes the view ? p-)

There is almost no end of tasks that the pilot not on the controls can perform, such as communications (with ground elements, command elements, other aircraft, etc. Lots of talking going on during a mission), navigation (entering new coordinates, making sure the flight's on time, setting new routes, deconflicting airspace with other flights), assistance with obstacle clearing and avoidance (it's the wire/missile/tree you *didn't* see that gets you), and monitoring the instruments and caution lights. In fact, the pilot that is not flying the aircraft is normally busier than the pilot on the controls. The pilot on the controls has just one job, and that's flying the aircraft. He needs to keep his eyes out of the cockpit as much as possible, and needs to be aware of where he is going at all times. The co-pilot has a ton of other jobs, all of which allow the pilot to concentrate on his primary duty of keeping his eyes outside and flying. Both pilots are extremely important, and they regularly switch roles (not necessarily during one mission, but from mission to mission they might). In fact, at least in the U.S. Army, there is no such term as "copilot" . The senior aviator in the aircraft (not always the highest ranking) is the "PC" or "pilot in command" and the junior aviator is the "PI" or "pilot". There are exceptions to this, but this covers the majority of situations.

[Ravage]

Finaly someone explained that to me :hug:

[Ravage]

A new book by M. Durant is out there:

"The Night Stalkers"

http://us.penguingroup.com/static/covers/all/1/2/9780399153921H.jpg

From the authors of the bestselling In the Company of Heroes come the thrilling, never-before-heard stories of the Army's elite aviation unit, the most daring and professional helicopter crews in the world.

In his first book, Michael Durant told his harrowing tale of being shot down in his Blackhawk over Mogadishu and held captive by a Somali warlord. It was a remarkable account, particularly because Special Operations pilots are notoriously reticent-they don't talk about their missions, at least not to anyone outside their small community. But now, with the publication of The Night Stalkers, Durant and Steven Hartov shed a fascinating light on these mysterious super commandos and take readers into a world they have only imagined.

From Iran to Grenada to Iraq, the 160th SOAR (A) has been at the point of the spear and in the thick of combat, delivering and supporting Delta operators, Rangers, and SEAL teams to any target, at any point on the globe, in all weather-night or day. Simply put, they are the best of the best, and here for the first time are their hair-raising true stories of battle, capture, victory, and loss.

[Echo300]

Sweet, I think I might buy that. Thanks RAVAGE :hug:

[Ravage]

Great but isn't he suppose to keep his mouth shut ? Classified means classified, right ?

[helomech]

Isn't OPSEC supposed to be just that?Has todays' military has changed that much?

[AlphaOneSix]

I would assume that the book has been vetted. Maybe you guys should also assume that unless you've already read the book and know exactly what classified material is being leaked or what OPSEC is being violated?

[Ravage]

OneSix I'm just a civi so I don't know sh!t p-)

[AlphaOneSix]

Well, I'm a civilian now as well, so I don't know much more. ;)

[Ravage]

But you were in the military, not me :)

[Ravage]

Night Stalkers recognized for valor

FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. (USASOC News Service, Dec. 18, 2006 – Thirty-seven Night Stalkers were recognized for acts of gallantry, heroism and valor in combat during a ceremony on Dec. 18, 2006, at Fort Campbell, Ky.
The Soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), were presented with four Silver Stars, 21 Distinguished Flying Crosses and 12 Air Medals for Valor. At the request of the recipients, their names are being withheld from this story.
The actions for which these awards were authorized all occurred during close combat action missions in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom earlier this year. Awardees included aviators and crew members.
According to the award citations, the Night Stalkers performed these heroic acts while supporting ground operations during direct action missions under hostile enemy fire. The Night Stalkers put the safety of the ground force, fellow aviators and crew members and the mission first without regard for their own personal safety. The recipients' actions directly affected the outcome of those missions.
"These selfless acts of heroism while under constant enemy fire are indicative of the type of Night Stalkers we have in the regiment today," stated Lt. Col. Clayton M. Hutmacher, 1st Battalion Commander.
"We are all totally committed to supporting the assault force and their ground tactical plan even if that takes us into harm's way. I am humbled to serve along side Soldiers such as these."
During one mission, a senior AH-6 "Little Bird" pilot was operating against an entrenched enemy force during a raid. According to his Silver Star citation, the pilot made successive assaults in support of the ground forces under enemy fire. His actions destroyed several enemy positions, allowing the ground forces to establish fighting positions.
The citation further states that without the pilot's courage and gallantry under hostile fire, the ground forces would have sustained significant casualties. His actions directly contributed to the successful execution of this direct action mission.
"I was surprised to learn that I was going to receive the award," said this Silver Star recipient. "What we do is our job. Every time we go out on a mission we're thinking the same thing. We do it for the man next to us and the men on the ground."
The pilot said that the significance of the award is not just about the one act the award recognizes.
"It's not just this particular incident. It's about the actions of fellow Night Stalkers over the past five years in the Global War on Terrorism and what we will continue to do as long as we are called to."
One of the many family members in attendance was this aviator's brother, Chris, who also serves in the military. He traveled hundreds of miles to be at the awards ceremony.
"Life has provided me with moments of pride on numerous occasions; pride in serving my country, the pride of being one of its citizens, pride in my family and pride in my personal accomplishments," he said. "But that was essentially a mental state of appreciation."
Chris said it wasn't until the day that he learned his little brother would receive the Silver Star that he fully felt pride physically within his body.
"I felt it in my heart and in my gut. Now I know what pride really is," he explained. "My brother is a hero."
The Silver Star, the fourth highest Army award, recognizes gallantry in combat. The Distinguished Flying Cross is awarded for a single, distinguishable act of heroism or extraordinary achievement during aerial flight in combat and the Air Medal is awarded for meritorious achievement during aerial flight. All of the recipients in this ceremony were awarded the Air Medal for Valor, a further distinction of their combat actions.

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Thirty-seven Night Stalkers were recognized for acts of gallantry, heroism and valor in combat during a ceremony on Dec. 18, 2006, at Fort Campbell, Ky. Twelve received the Air Medals for Valor.

http://news.soc.mil/releases/News%20Archive/2006/06DEC/Distinguished%20Flying%20Cross.jpg
Thirty-seven Night Stalkers were recognized for acts of gallantry, heroism and valor in combat during a ceremony on Dec. 18, 2006, at Fort Campbell, Ky. Twenty-one Night Stalkers received the Distinguished Flying Cross

http://news.soc.mil/releases/News%20Archive/2006/06DEC/Silver%20Star.jpg
Thirty-seven Night Stalkers were recognized for acts of gallantry, heroism and valor in combat during a ceremony on Dec. 18, 2006, at Fort Campbell, Ky. Four Night Stalkers were presented the Silver Star

[Ravage]

<nevermind> :roll:

[yasotay]

Gents, I am very sure that everything in the book has been cleared with the government for release. Since Mike and LTC (R) Johnson would face less than kind response if they disclosed still classified materials.

Ravage, thanks for the "heads up" on the book, will certainly have to get a copy.

[D-gin]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9103/andrews205590jpg94811xu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Words are not necessary.

[Ravage]

Repost p-)

[Ravage]

Can someone please upload the SOAR promo vid again, it seems I have misplaced it :(

[D-gin]

Repost p-)

No it's not.....It is from the same series that I posted a while back though, Just a different shot.

[SAPPEROIF]

Can someone please upload the SOAR promo vid again, it seems I have misplaced it :(
You talking about the original one I sent ya with the computerized little bird flying from around the mountain?

[Ravage]

Yep thats the one.

[SAPPEROIF]

K, I'll find it and host it for ya....why dont ya DL it to your PC this time, rofl

[Ravage]

I had it on my PC p-)

[SAPPEROIF]

Here's it on youtube and here's a place to DL it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG-1GMOb71Q



http://rapidshare.com/files/9481014/ActionVideo.wmv.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/9481014/ActionVideo.wmv.html)

[Ravage]

Thank you :hug: My life in now complete p-)

http://www.youtube.com/v/oG-1GMOb71Q

[SAPPEROIF]

No prob bro.
...and here's a few incase you don't have them already...which I'm sure 1 or 2 you don't.


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6826/5mh6re9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5593/24ah6jlittlebirdgv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8071/ah6j32qh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7638/openingrightbu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Ravage]

Hell yeach woot

[Ravage]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h45/Xilsom/494050220MpOnuW_ph.jpg

Ok a tricky question: when a team ropes down via fast rope from a blackhawk one of the crewchefs drops the rope when the troops reach the deck. But when guys rope from a MH-6 whet happens to the ropes ? do they stay hanging from the helo ? thats some ways stupid if you ask me...

[jerka71_1]

Ok a tricky question: when a team ropes down via fast rope from a blackhawk one of the crewchefs drops the rope when the troops reach the deck. But when guys rope from a MH-6 whet happens to the ropes ? do they stay hanging from the helo ? thats some ways stupid if you ask me...

I´d be surprised if they don´t have some kind of electrical or mechanical release from cockpit. Most (if not all) bigger birds has this function during sling-load/hoist-ops.

Found a pic in your thread where you can see parts of the release mechanism:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/769/bild1zl4.jpg

[ivan_shermagone]

That pic details it pretty well. According to the new Durant book, the earliest versions couldn't be cut loose and had to be hauled back in. That's what they had to do in Grenada.

[Ravage]

Exelent SOAR vid, why didn't I saw it earlyer :cantbeli:

http://www.youtube.com/v/vkZ2-3HlMnc&NR

[Sand Man]

Does anyone still have a copy of that infamous SFOD/D recruitment vid?

[Ravage]

You are aware NO ONE will answer to that, adleast not on an open chanell.

[Pook2]

Does anyone still have a copy of that infamous SFOD/D recruitment vid?

Yes but I will not post it here, and I most likely will not PM it to anyone either. Unless one of the mods deems it ok to PM, I wont do it.

EDIT: Actually, it's not on my laptop anymore, So I don't know.

[Nevins]

nice vid Ravage

I used to have that vid. but I lost it when I had to reboot my computer.
I doubt you will find it.

[Sand Man]

@ Ravage & Pook2 ...

OK. I didn't ask that and no PMs were sent whatsoever. This is off the books stuff...


Now, would someone PM me the vid, PLEEEEAASSEE??? p-)

[Ravage]

You know asking for that vid is like asking to get booted out.

[Christophe]

Sand Man, a friend of mine has it on cd iirc. I´ll see what I can do.

About the vid controversy; I am sure CAG has dealt with the matter (inl.opsec and persec issues) and appropriate measures were taken.
Stop acting as if the vid is the biggest thing since the landing on the moon people. Someone ****ed up and it got out. It happens.

[Ravage]

I know, I've got it p-)

[Christophe]

Ravage,

no hard feelings bro :-)
I basically just wrote what a friend of mine told me. He has been at the CAG facility often and knows people there.

[Ravage]

Cool, did he got a few shots of the Little Birds p-) joking :)

(my fetisch it on again)

[Christophe]

Not that I know of, but I can ask.
I´ll email him to see if he knows some 160th guys at SOA.
I do know he went pistol shooting with them (he knows to of the shooting instructors). Some of his vet friends supposedly also work in the armoury.


Update:I emailed him regarding Little Birds. I´ll pm you if I have a response.

[Ravage]

Must have been fun.

[Sand Man]

Sand Man, a friend of mine has it on cd iirc. I´ll see what I can do.

About the vid controversy; I am sure CAG has dealt with the matter (inl.opsec and persec issues) and appropriate measures were taken.
Stop acting as if the vid is the biggest thing since the landing on the moon people. Someone ****ed up and it got out. It happens.

Thanks, Chris...

[Ravage]

I wish you did not write that....

[SickBick]

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p23/SeanyPancakes/pilots.jpg

[Ghostryder]

link busted

[Ravage]

Night Stalkers compete for Army Supply Excellence Award

By Kimberly T. Laudano, 160th SOAR public affairs

FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. (USASOC News Service, January 24, 2007) – The Night Stalker Supply and Support Activity was evaluated for the Chief of Staff of the Army’s Supply Excellence Award this week.

The regimental SSA was selected as the U.S. Army Special Operations Command SSA of the Year in November 2006, earning the Soldiers an opportunity to compete against other supply and support outfits Army-wide for the top recognition.

“Participation in this competition motivates the entire team,” said Lt. Col. Randy Nelson, the 160th S-4 Logistics Officer who is responsible for oversight of the SSA. “The Soldiers and civilians in our unique SSA are very excited about winning the USASOC level SEA competition and representing USASOC at the Department of the Army level.”

An Army level inspection team, consisting of two senior supply field warrant officers, visited the 160th SSA last week to evaluate the warehouse operations. They can inspect or ask questions about any part of the operation during their multi-day visit.

“There is no inspection checklist and the team can look at documents, procedures and even talk to Soldiers as they perform their duties in the warehouse,” said Chief Warrant Officer Three Tracy D. Eby, 160th SSA Officer. “They are looking to be sure we are following Army regulations and guidelines.”

Master Sgt. Blane Fix, 160th SSA Non-commissioned Officer in Charge, said the team prepares for the inspection by how they conduct business on a regular basis. “These Soldiers conduct business by the book, even when that means choosing the hard right over the easy wrong, and they exceed the standard every day.”

Individual Soldiers take pride and ownership in what they do because they know their actions have ramifications for our Soldiers at home or those who are deployed in combat, said Fix. “The members of this team pride themselves in getting the repair part and making the mission happen.”

The Army Supply Excellence Award Program is an outstanding tool for several reasons, explained Nelson, including showcasing a great unit operation and instilling pride in the Soldiers working warehousing functions every day.

Nelson said preparation for the competition also provides that extra motivation and analysis that only makes a warehouse operation better.

“Having subject matter experts from USASOC and DA inspecting the warehouse ensures that each Soldier on the team has a clear picture of what ‘right’ looks like.”

This competition, run by the U.S. Army Quartermaster Center & School, has a 20 year history. It is designed to enhance logistical readiness of Army units and recognize logistics excellence.

The Army level competition winner and runner-up will be announced later this year.

The 160th SSA Mission

The 160th SSA provides class nine aviation support to the entire regiment. “We are an aircraft repair part specific facility,” explained Eby. His shop supports the entire fleet of aircraft for the regiment, both deployed and in garrison. “We go where the war fighters go so we must be mobile and have the ability get the supplies needed to get the job done.”

That means the SSA must be prepared to get supplies anywhere in the world the 160th may be called upon to deploy for combat or training. The SSA has been simultaneously supporting garrison and multiple forward deployed locations in support of the Global War on Terrorism for more than five years.

“The nature of the SOAR job requires us to be self supported so the shop is organized to meet the special operations mission requirements,” Eby said. “When we need a part for an aircraft that is down from training or combat missions, we have the ability to get what they need - where they need it - over night.”

Of the eight sections in the SSA, three are unique to the unit. “In addition to the receiving, storage, issue, turn-in and stock control sections, we also have forward support, shipping and commercial parts and contracting sections,” he said.

“We have to be as good as the warriors we support,” said Fix. “The shop organization allows our Soldiers to think outside the box to find and move parts quickly no matter where they are located.”

All the unit logistics personnel are affectionately known as “Team Red Dog” within the 160th. And everyone in the unit knows the SSA ‘Red Dogs.’

“We alone support the Night Stalker family so we have a much closer working relationship with our customers. We know them and they know us,” said Fix. “That personal connection provides even more motivation to get the job done.”

The SSA consists of 32 Soldiers and eight civilians. Eby and Fix are responsible for oversight of the daily SSA operations and report directly to Nelson, the regiment logistics officer. In fiscal year 2006, the SSA processed 30,171 requisitions valued at more than $144 million dollars.

Soldiers interested in learning more about assignments with the 160th can get additional information from the 160th recruiting page on the Fort Campbell Web site or contact Sgt. 1st Class Lagasse at 270-798-6504 (DSN 635) or via e-mail at lagasseb@soar.army.mil).

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7889/supplyfx2.jpg

Known as "Team Red Dog," the Soldiers and civilians of the 160th Regiment Supply and Support Activity pose for a photo outside of their warehouse.

[SAPPEROIF]

Since this is a 160th thread I gotta add a new pics of CW4 ret. Michael Durrant for you guys. He was here at Rucker yesterday signing books and talking with us.

Durrant
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1921/durant007el9.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=durant007el9.jpg)


Pic I took with him

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8391/medurrantau6.th.jpg (http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=medurrantau6.jpg)

[Ravage]

So is the book "Night Stalkers" any good ?

[SAPPEROIF]

So is the book "Night Stalkers" any good ?
Haven't read through it yet..currently I was going through "In Company of Heroes". That one is.

[Ravage]

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5802/military005sk4.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9259/military003vk4.jpg

[NEFAS]

Nice pic, note the M4 strapped to the side!

[206Pilot]

[quote=david3558;1452789]Hey guys, anyone know what kind of helmet the SOAR uses? I am very near to completing my airsoft loadout. I need to know where I can buy this helmet (I'm sure its a Gentex).

Gentex HGU-56/P often with the MFS Maxillofacial Shield

Regards

[Ravage]

Great avatar 206, welcome to MP.net :hug:

[Ravage]

What is the face shield for ?

[206Pilot]

The shield was intially developed to cut down on the ambient sound level in a open/off door enviroment, allowing the crew to talk at a normal voice level without having to yell to be heard over the "wind and weapon" noise.

It also of course allows for overall face protection from muzzle blast and rocket blow-back...the Kiowa Delta model comes to mind here!

Thanks for the kudos and the welcome

Regards

[NEFAS]

Does anybody know if 160th crews use the CMU-33 Survival Vest?
And if so could you post some pics?

Thank in advance guys!

[B25Hmitchell]

So is the book "Night Stalkers" any good ?

I just finished reading it. It was a good albeit quick read. Each chapter could be expanded into it's own book in a perfect world.

[206Pilot]

Does anybody know if 160th crews use the CMU-33 Survival Vest?
And if so could you post some pics?

Thank in advance guys!

Hi

No the CMU-33 isn't the vest used, normally it is a SARVSO or SARVSO II, the AIRSAVE is rarely used by SOAR. Sometimes the Air Warrior is used, but they can pretty much have the freedom to use any equipment they want when it is all said and done.

http://www.rotorcraft-tech.com/sarvso_160soar_800x.jpg

Regards

[jerka71_1]

The shield was intially developed to cut down on the ambient sound level in a open/off door enviroment, allowing the crew to talk at a normal voice level without having to yell to be heard over the "wind and weapon" noise.

It also of course allows for overall face protection from muzzle blast and rocket blow-back...the Kiowa Delta model comes to mind here!

Thanks for the kudos and the welcome

Regards

Do you fly Jet or Long(both)?

[206Pilot]

Do you fly Jet or Long(both)?

Hi

Both among other aircraft as well...you?

Regards

[Ravage]

Do all Night Stalkers carry sidearms ? (stupid question but still).

[ReggayMC]

All pilots carry sidearms. I don't know if regular flyers have M4s strapped next to them, but they at least have a Beretta. Most pictures of Night Stalkers i've seen have them with a M4 or a MP5.

[NEFAS]

Hi

No the CMU-33 isn't the vest used, normally it is a SARVSO or SARVSO II, the AIRSAVE is rarely used by SOAR. Sometimes the Air Warrior is used, but they can pretty much have the freedom to use any equipment they want when it is all said and done.



Regards

Hi 206Pilot,

Thanks for the info.
Nice pics, keep 'em coming!!woot

[Ravage]

Nice pics, keep 'em coming!!woot

What he sad :)

[Sand Man]

Most pictures of Night Stalkers i've seen have them with a M4 or a MP5.

You better back-up your claims with actual pictures...

[NEFAS]

You better back-up your claims with actual pictures...

On page 42 there's a pic of a MH-47 cockpit with a m4 strapped to the captain's side ;)

[Sand Man]

On page 42 there's a pic of a MH-47 cockpit with a m4 strapped to the captain's side ;)

Yeah, I saw that one. I was more curious about the ones he was referring to. ;)

[Ravage]

Night Stalker PA recognized for contribution to aviation

By Kimberly T. Laudano
160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) Public Affairs

FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. (USASOC News Service, Feb. 8, 2007) – Capt. Scott M. Gilpatrick, Certified Aeromedical Physician Assistant, was awarded the 2006 Army Aviation Association of America Medicine Award for his contributions to Army Aviation while serving in the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne).

“I am honored to be nominated for this award, especially as the award is usually given to doctors,” he said. “I was very surprised someone took the time to nominate me during this busy time in our unit’s history.”

Maj. Shawn F. Kane, the 160th Senior Regiment Flight Surgeon, submitted the award nomination because he felt Gilpatrick was truly deserving of it. “His contributions to our mission and (the ground forces we support) are immeasurable.”

The AAAA annual awards program recognizes outstanding achievements in Army aviation. The AAAA Medicine Award is presented to the flight surgeon or aeromedical physician assistant who best exemplifies the contribution to Army aviation during the awards period

For Gilpatrick, the award is a reflection of all of the medical professionals in the 160th.

“It says, as a section, we go above and beyond what’s expected of any other team of aviation health care providers,” Gilpatrick explained. “We not only provide great care to our aviators and crew, we provide the (ground forces) we support with world class casualty evacuation (CASEVAC) coverage.”

According to his nomination packet, Gilpatrick made significant contributions in aviation medicine, special operations aviation medicine tactics, techniques and procedures and training special operations aviation medical personnel over the past year. The nomination submission also says that these contributions were instrumental in saving the lives of countless special operations forces personnel and the successful completion of numerous missions in support of the Global War on Terrorism.

Recognition of Gilpatrick’s and the unit’s medical accomplishments through this award has potential to expand support for the importance and feasibility of similar programs and capabilities in conventional units.

“Hopefully this award will show the Aviation Medicine Community that Aeromedical Physician Assistants are valuable members of a unit’s Aviation Medicine Program,” said Gilpatrick. “I also hope it shows that an aviation unit’s medical section can provide CASEVAC coverage to the ground force units they support, beyond the conventional medical evacuation (MEDEVAC) unit’s mission.”

Gilpatrick’s contributions to aviation medicine are based on core principles he believes in and passes along to his fellow medics.

“Every Soldier you take care of should be looked at as a family member. Take care of them like you would your brother or sister,” he said. “Also, make whatever unit you happen to be in better by doing something new and improved to usual operations.”

Making a difference
For more than six months during the 2006 award period, Gilpatrick served as a joint task force flight surgeon. He flew more than 100 missions, including some 300 night vision hours, in direct support of the task force.

Gilpatrick was also responsible for planning all of the medical support for aviation missions and ensuring the overall casualty evacuation plan for the joint task force was feasible.

“I had to plan for missions that included all aspects of casualty care, from the time someone was hurt on the battlefield to their subsequent arrival at a surgical facility, usually via 160th aircraft,” he explained.

Kane said Gilpatrick performed superbly in a position designated for a lieutenant colonel and a senior flight surgeon because of his expertise, professional knowledge and experiences. “He is a respected professional amongst his medical colleagues as well as the aviator and ground force leadership in the special operations community.”

While deployed, Gilpatrick simultaneously maintained an aviation medical program at three geographically separated locations. This program included flying duty medical exams, daily provision of primary care medicine and a comprehensive post deployment screening program.

“Captain Gilpatrick provided outstanding aviation medical guidance and clinical advice to his special operations combat medics at those outstations,” said Kane. “Even in the immediate absence of an aeromedical physician assistant, his aviators were always assured the best care possible and his commanders were always assured the best guidance.”

When he’s not deployed, Gilpatrick dedicates time and energy into providing medical care to the Soldiers in his unit and training his medical personnel.

Kane said the aviators and commanders know that Gilpatrick is truly their ally and advocate and that they actively seek care instead of hiding and compounding their medical issues. This is significant because the aviators and crew members in Gilpatrick’s unit have remained continuously deployed for more than five years and that operation tempo takes a heavy toll on readiness related to chronic and challenging medical conditions.

“Crewmembers and commanders trust and respect (Captain Gilpatrick’s) recommendations,” he said. “They know that if they have to be grounded it is in the best interest of their health and the units’ mission and most importantly it will be for the minimum amount of time.”

Tough, realistic training is another contribution Gilpatrick continues to provide toArmy aviation. He regularly plans, resources and conducts aviation combat focused medical training, including three joint trauma management training events in the past year. Kane said the events were all based on lessons learned in combat and have reinforced or validated unit TTPs.

“Captain Gilpatrick has used his prior experiences and skills as a ground force medic to ensure that unit medical personnel are combat multipliers,” Kane said. “The unit’s medical personnel have been crossed trained in numerous non-medical tasks to ensure survivability of not only themselves but their patients.”

This training includes live fire movements, rotary wing close air support and fast roping. All of this training has proved invaluable in combat and made the SOAR medical personnel unique and highly sought after medical providers, said Kane.

Gilpatrick also examines ways to optimize existing medical training. For example, SOAR medics must be able to lift a critically injured Soldier into a helicopter regardless of environment. Proficiency in this skill can be a matter of life or death, with the requirement usually presenting itself in extremely challenging situations. In response, Gilpatrick increased the number and complexity of injured personnel hoist training events in the past year.

“The unit has conducted and is now even more proficient in high angle, confined space, urban and over water hoist missions,” said Kane. “Personnel from the 160th have conducted all of those hoist operations in actual combat situations in both Iraq and Afghanistan theaters of operations.”

Because of Gilpatrick’s dedication and determination, Kane said that he is a true “quiet professional,” completing every mission at a standard well above that of his peers or superiors and goes out of his way to take care of his Soldiers. “These qualities along with his proven combat record, aviation medicine skills and ability to train medical personnel make him truly deserving of the recognition associated with the AAAA Medicine Award.”

Bio information

A native of Daytona Beach, Fla., Gilpatrick volunteered for Army service in 1989. From 1989-1997, he served as a special operations combat medic with the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, at Fort Lewis, Wash., and then with the 1st Ranger Bn. at Hunter Army Airfield, Savannah.

He then attended the Interservice Physician Assistant Program at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, completing his degree in physician assistant studies through University of Nebraska. Having received his commission as a second lieutenant, Gilpatrick served as a battalion physician assistant with the 1st Bn., 10th Field Artillery Regt., 3rd Infantry Division, at Fort Benning, Ga. During this assignment, Gilpatrick earned his master’s degree from University of Nebraska. In 2001, he took over the 4th Ranger Training Bn. physician assistant position also at Fort Benning.

Gilpatrick assessed for and was selected for a newly authorized physician assistant position with the 160th SOAR (A) in 2003 where he continues to serve today. He is a veteran of multiple combat deployments in support of the Global War on Terrorism.

Gilpatrick is also a dedicated family man. He and his wife, Lori have two children, Connor and Hadley. Gilpatrick credits them all with providing him unconditional support and understanding while he serves his country, knowing they sacrifice as much as he does.

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Capt. Scott M. Gilpatrick, Certified Aeromedical Physician Assistant, was awarded the 2006 Army Aviation Association of America Medicine Award for his contributions to Army Aviation while serving in the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne). Photo by Kimberly T. Laudano.

[Ravage]

160th Soldier places in Army arts, crafts contest

By Megan Smith
Fort Campbell Courier

FORT CAMPBELL, Ky (USASOC News Service, Feb. 2, 2007) – Fort Campbell Soldiers and family members took home several awards in the 2006 Army Arts and Crafts contest.

Staff Sgt. John Pilieri, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, combined his experience in the military and his talent for drawing to create a pencil drawing commemorating the 160th Forward Area Refueling Point Team.

Pilieri took second place in the drawing category Army-wide for accomplished artists, and his charcoal drawing of military combat boots received an honorable mention in last year’s contest.

Pilieri said he has always had a passion for art. He graduated from the High School for Creative and Performing Arts in Philadelphia majoring in visual arts, and has a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree from Seton Hill University in Greensburg, Pa.

“I was encouraged to enter the contest by the staff at [Fort Campbell’s] Guenette Arts and Crafts Center,” Pilieri said. “I’ve always been interested in art. I’ve been drawing ever since I can remember. My maternal grandfather was a commercial illustrator for the Penn Fruit company in Philadelphia.”

For receiving second-place, Pilieri took home a cash prize of $200 and a certificate of excellence.

In addition to submitting his art into the contest, he also has numerous military prints for sale at Fort Campbell’s Don Pratt Museum and local framing and art shops.

“I have seven copyrighted prints all filed with the United States Library of Congress,” Pilieri said. “I also will do other commissions when my schedule permits, but my true love and avocation is painting.”

This year, 385 Soldiers and family members from military installations around the world competed in the annual competition.

Individuals competed in the accomplished artists or novice category, and entered their art in categories for ceramics, drawings, glass, metal and jewelry, textiles and fibers, mixed media, both two- and three-dimensional, oil-base painting, water-base painting, prints and wood.

All participants received certificates of excellence, and first-place winners received $300, runners-up $200, and third-place $100.

To enter the contest, individuals must submit a CD of their artwork to her. The submission deadline for the 2007 Army Arts and Crafts Contest is May 25. For more information, contact Patrice Winters at (270) 798-3625.

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Staff Sgt. John Pilieri, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, combined his experience in the military and his talent for drawing to create a pencil drawing commemorating the 160th Forward Area Refueling Point Team.

[ryan woods]

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best job in the world....

[Ravage]

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A Soldier from A Co., 4th Bn., 160th SOAR trains with the M134 minigun at Gray Army Airfield.

How to become a Night Stalker:

By Kimberly Laudano
160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) Public Affairs


FORT CAMPBELL, Ky.(USASOC News Service, Sept. 25, 2006) – Green Platoon. It’s the first step to becoming a Night Stalker. It’s the bridge to a challenging and rewarding career as a Soldier in the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne). And upon completion, it’s when a Soldier is entrusted to carry on the unit’s legacy by upholding the standards and professionalism of those who came before him.

So what exactly is Green Platoon? It’s a five-week course consisting of field and classroom instruction and evaluation providing Soldiers with the basic skills they will need when they first arrive at their new job in the organization, said Sgt. 1st Class George Park, Combat Skills Noncommissioned Officer in Charge (NCOIC).

Students also learn the unit history and evolution so they understand the founding philosophy of the 160th and the dedication of the Night Stalkers before them who made this organization what it is today. “Night Stalkers are entrusted to carry on the professionalism of those who came before them and continue pushing the limits to advance Army special operations aviation,” Park said.

Green Platoon trains Soldiers in advanced methods of the five basic combat skills: first responder, land navigation, combatives, weapons and teamwork. The program is run by the 160th’s Special Operations Aviation Training Company (SOATC) with cadre representing a variety of military occupational specialties (MOS) and years of real world Night Stalker experience.

All of the training builds off basic skills a Soldier already has. Green Platoon takes these skills to the next level and helps Soldiers realize they can accomplish anything they set their mind to. “We want Soldiers to succeed and excel in Green Platoon,” explained Park. “We push Soldiers to their limits and they realize they have even more to give. The students work together and get support from cadre to make it through.”

The course is physically and mentally demanding and is designed with the unit’s special operations mission at the core. Park said the philosophy behind Green Platoon is that everyone in the 160th may find themselves in a combat situation. “If there is a remote chance that any of our Soldiers may find themselves in combat, we want to prepare them for any scenario.”

He offers an example that is applicable to any Night Stalker, whether on staff or in a line unit, because everyone in the 160th can deploy and you may have to move between locations in theater. “If you are in a combat zone and find yourself in a downed helicopter scenario, you and your crew and customers will rely on this combat skills training,” said Park. “You may have to react to a medical emergency. In order to get to friendly forces, you may have to navigate by land. If you get confronted by the enemy, you’re taught combatives for hand-to-hand scenarios and how to use your weapon if that’s what it takes. And finally, teamwork is the only thing that will get you through it.”

First responder training is what used to be known as combat lifesaver training, said Park. Soldiers complete six days of combined classroom instruction and field exercises focusing on casualty assessment and initial treatment on the battlefield. The final exercise for this block of training is a simulated recovery of a downed aircrew with injuries.

Land navigation takes students back to the basics, navigating the earth using just a topographic map and compass. “This class starts with the basics of how to read a map and use a compass and finishes with an escape and evasion exercise,” said Park.

The combatives block of instruction is the Modern Army Combatives Level One Instructor Course as written by the U.S. Army Combatives School at Fort Benning, Ga. It is very physical, very real training designed to prepare Soldiers for hand-to-hand combat, Park explained.

Soldiers also spend a week on weapons familiarization. “Students become familiar with the M-9 pistol and M-4 Carbine as well as the AK-47, firing hundreds of rounds of ammunition,” said Park. A final stress shoot assesses students’ weapons handling after the in-depth training.

When Staff Sgt. Chad Hantz, a 96B Intelligence Analyst, reported for Green Platoon he was expecting a very physically and mentally challenging course. And it was. But Hantz said that the most rewarding experience at Green Platoon was attending Green Platoon itself. “Green Platoon has to be one of the best military schools out there. In my seven years of service I have never learned so much useful information within a matter of five weeks,” he said.

Somewhere in the mix, students are also confronted with a day-long test. The notorious “Black Day” is most Soldiers’ biggest fear, challenge and then most rewarding accomplishment. SOATC will not disclose the specifics of that day but Park said the series of tasks push students to their limits and show them what they can accomplish themselves and most importantly as part of a team.

Master Sgt. Richard Miller, a 44C Finance Specialist, said that “Black Day” is exactly what it sounds like. “It is the day you come to terms with your weakness. It’s where you start to make your transition to being a Night Stalker,” he said. “If you’re going to quit, it will be at this point.”

But according to their creed, Night Stalkers don’t quit.

“After Black Day, the Night Stalker Creed starts to have meaning and the buildings with the names of fallen Night Stalkers take on meaning to you,” Miller continued. “It is the hardest but most important day of training.”

Many Soldiers are apprehensive about volunteering for assignment with the 160th and surviving Green Platoon. They are not alone and should have confidence in themselves and the Soldiers they will be training with. “Every Soldier is nervous at the start of Green Platoon,” said Park. “I think that changes around the half-way point because students have succeeded in challenging tasks themselves and as a team.”

MOS and gender are irrelevant in this class. “We look at Soldier skills and character during Green Platoon,” said Park. “Everyone relies on each other during this training. Teamwork is what it’s all about.

No matter what your background, every character can positively influence the team in some shape or form,” he said. “Tasks you never thought you’d complete, you do.”

Spc. Jeffrey Klimper, a 63B Light Wheel Vehicle Mechanic, said Green Platoon was tough. “Everything you do challenges your body, mind and soul,” he said. “When you think you’re done and it’s going to get easier, it’s only going to get harder.”

But at the end of the day, the sense of accomplishment makes it all worth while,” Klimper reflected. “You’re sitting there and you just can’t believe you just completed the challenge.”

If Soldiers do not successfully complete key tasks, they get “recycled” for another opportunity. Private 1st Class Ikaika Hausley, a 15T UH-60 Black Hawk team chief, survived three “recycles.” He was determined to complete the course and serve with pride in the 160th SOAR.

“I volunteered for assignment with the 160th while I was in AIT (advance individual training) at Fort Eustis (Va.),” said Hausley. He heard Green Platoon was hard and quickly found out that it was.

“Then I started to figure it out. You may not realize it at the time, but every challenge and frustration is a lesson to help you succeed,” he said. “You’re surrounded by good people working for a good goal. It’s worth it.”

Park said he often hears Soldiers say that they are not tough enough for Green Platoon because of higher levels of physical fitness activities than they may be used to. “Green Platoon is as hard as you make it,” he said. “Is it an easy course? No. But it is designed to challenge you, not make you fail.”

If Soldiers still are not sure, he relies on rational. “Everyone who has worked in the regiment in your MOS previously graduated from Green Platoon. You can too.”

Hausley was not excited about the physical demands of Green Platoon but said it was all worth it. “Yes, you wake up sore, but you realize that you’re working hard and learning good information.” He attended his Green Platoon graduation on crutches from an injury he overcame to complete the program.

The regiment has a training program to help Soldiers prepare for Green Platoon. “You need to physically and mentally prepare yourself for the best training the Army has to offer,” said Park. “We have developed a 30-day train-up program designed to help Soldiers succeed in Green Platoon.”

“This course is difficult, but it’s doable,” said Miller. “It should be difficult because you want the best of the best to serve the special operations community.”

Miller also said nothing can truly prepare you for an assignment with the 160th. “There is no one experience that can prepare you for it. This is like the culmination of your military career.”

When the newest Night Stalkers walk away from their Green Platoon graduation donning their maroon beret with the 160th crest for the first time, there are two things Park hopes they take away from the experience. “First is the value and importance of team work,” he said. “Second is knowing that they can exceed what they thought was their previous limit.”

[D-gin]

Ravage you got a link for that article???

[Ravage]

Here:

http://news.soc.mil/releases/News%20Archive/2006/06SEP/060925-01.html

[Ravage]

Old news, but.......

Aid station dedicated in memory of fallen Night Stalker

By Kimberly Laudano
160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment Public Affairs Office

HUNTER ARMY AIRFIELD, Ga. (USASOC News Service, July 24, 2006) – Memories of Soldiers who make the ultimate sacrifice remind us of the true meaning of duty, selfless service and commitment. They are gone, but never forgotten. A new building name, memorial plaque and display prominently featured in a medical facility will remind Night Stalkers of the impact every Soldier can have on a unit and a military community.

In a recent ceremony at Hunter Army Airfield, Ga., Soldiers of 3rd Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), dedicated the unit’s medical aid station in honor of Sgt. 1st Class Marcus V. Muralles.

He was the senior flight medic on aircraft number 146 which was downed by enemy fire in Eastern Afghanistan on June 28, 2005. The aircraft was flown and crewed by eight Night Stalkers carrying eight Navy SEALs to aid a team of special operations forces that were engaged with enemy fighters. All 16 troops perished in the crash.

“Sgt. 1st Class Marcus Muralles was the best of the best,” said Lt. Col. Manfred Little, commander, 3rd Bn., 160th SOAR(A). “He was a valued member of an all-volunteer force called Night Stalkers and an even more unique group of men known as Night Stalker medics.”

“Marcus gave his life doing what he loved to do…flying with Night Stalkers and supporting the finest special operations forces known to man,” said Little. “Marcus will be missed, but through events such as this (facility) dedication, he will never be forgotten as Soldiers come and go through this aid station over the years to come.”

Sgt. Mike McHugh, who worked with Muralles in 3rd Bn. for about two years, said it was an honor and sincere pleasure to work with this fellow Night Stalker. “Marcus had the uncanny ability to befriend and put at ease nearly all he came in contact with,” he said. “His positive, can-do attitude in every situation, no matter the challenge, was remarkable.

“Technically and tactically few, if any, were his equal,” said McHugh. “His influence on the (special operations forces) community was immense and the impact of the example he set will reverberate for years to come.”

The battalion surgeon, Maj. Samual Sauer, echoed those reflections. He said Muralles “embodied the spirit of special operations and epitomized those we seek to fill the duties of a special operations medial sergeant.”

Sauer said Muralles’ gentle demeanor was offset by his willingness and commitment to lead by example. “He was the true lead-by-example non-commissioned officer. He did everything better and sharper than anyone I have ever known.

“From the example set by his personal kit through his unending re-developing of our critical care equipment, he demonstrated his acute sense of responsibility, attention to detail and extraordinary standards,” said Sauer. “He showed us what right looks like every single time.”

Muralles had been making sacrifices throughout his career for the greater good of the community before making the ultimate sacrifice with fellow special operations forces troops last year. Sauer said that it would be impossible to accurately characterize Muralles’ impact on the people that he came into contact with throughout his career.

“We will never know how many Soldiers may have survived and will survive and heal because of his commitment to medical training, willingness to teach everyone (with whom) he had contact, and innate talent for making Soldiers and leaders understand the unique nature of battlefield medical care,” he said.

Muralles, born October 5, 1971 in Louisiana, was raised in Shelbyville, Ind. He joined the Army in August 1994 and served in the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. After completing his initial enlistment obligation, he was assigned to the inactive ready reserve. In August 1998 he returned to active duty, again assigned to 3rd Ranger Bn., before joining the 3rd Bn., 160th SOAR(A), Hunter Army Airfield, as an aerial flight medic in August 2003. Muralles had multiple combat deployments while serving with both units. He engaged the enemy in both operations Enduring and Iraqi Freedom, participating in combat airborne operations in Afghanistan and Iraq and many other direct action missions.

He is survived by his wife, Diana, and their two children, Anna and Dominique, who were all in attendance at the ceremony. His mother, Rosemary, and her husband, Bob, along with Diana’s brother, Salva, were also in attendance.

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[D-gin]

Here:

http://news.soc.mil/releases/News%20Archive/2006/06SEP/060925-01.html

Cheers Ravage.:hug:

[imohammed2]

Some more:

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i never really figured out what this guy was firing those rockets at???

arent those Air to ground rockets/? FFARs?

[MarioK]

I dont think it really needs to be pointed at something... You can fire something on a steep trajectory and wait for the free fall effect to kick in

[Ravage]

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[AlphaOneSix]

i never really figured out what this guy was firing those rockets at???

arent those Air to ground rockets/? FFARs?

You can rock the aircraft and fire them upwards like that to either get more range out of them or to shoot from behind cover.

[Ravage]

Eight special operations personnel killed in Afghanistan helicopter crash

From official military releases and staff reports
FORT BRAGG, N.C. (USASOC News Service, Feb. 20, 2007) – Seven Army Special Operations Soldiers were killed in a Feb. 18 crash of a MH-47 Chinook helicopter in Afghanistan.

According to a Department of Defense release, killed in the crash were:
-Pfc. Ryan C. Garbs, 20, of Edwardsville, Ill.; B Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
-Spec. Brandon D. Gordon, 21, of Naples, Fla.; B Company, 2nd Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), Fort Campbell, Ky.
-CW3 Hershel D. McCants, Jr., 33, of Arizona; B Co., 2nd Bn, 160th SOAR(A).
-CW3 John A. Quinlan, 36, of New Jersey; B Co., 2nd Bn, 160th SOAR(A).
-Pfc. Kristofer D. Thomas, 18, of Roseville, Calif.; B Co., 3rd Bn., 75th Ranger Regiment.
-Spec. Travis R. Vaughn, 26, of Reinbeck, Iowa; B Co., 2nd Bn, 160th SOAR(A).
-Sgt. Adam A. Wilkinson, 23, of Miskayuna, N.Y.; B Co., 2nd Bn, 160th SOAR(A).

A member of the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command was also killed in the crash. TSgt. Scott Duffman, of La Cueva, N.M., was assigned to the 24th Special Tactics Squadron, Pope Air Force Base, N.C. (Go to http://www2.afsoc.af.mil for additional details.)

In a statement, 160th Commander Col. Kevin W. Mangum said, “The aircraft was crewed by an exceptionally qualified team of professionals and was flying in a formation of other aircraft in performance of this mission. It is unclear at this time as to exactly what caused the aircraft to crash onto a high plain in southeastern Afghanistan.

“While it is important that we investigate and determine what caused this tragic event - which we will - our immediate and lasting concern is for the families and friends of the extraordinary men who served their country with distinction,” Mangum said. (Link to full statement)

Fourteen others were wounded in the crash when the helicopter reportedly had a sudden, unexplained loss of power and control before crashing in southeastern Afghanistan.

A combat search and rescue operation was launched immediately to secure the site and recover the passengers. Wounded personnel were transported to Coalition medical facilities for treatment.

The helicopter was carrying 22 people, including aircrew, at the time of the crash.

“The loss of these service members is felt by all of us here in Afghanistan, and we offer our deepest sympathy to the families of those who were killed,” said Lt. Col. David Accetta, Coalition spokesman at a press briefing immediately following the incident.

The 160th SOAR has tentatively scheduled a unit memorial for Feb. 21 at 1 p.m. (CST) in the Passenger Processing Center at Fort Campbell, Ky. It is closed to the media. Plans for the 75th Ranger Regiment memorial have not been set.

The cause of the crash is under investigation.


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Pfc. Ryan C. Garbs, 20, of Edwardsville, Ill. Garbs was assigned to B Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
He graduated from the United States Army Airborne School in February 2006. Following graduation from the Ranger Indoctrination Program, he was assigned to 1st Platoon, B Company, 3d Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment in March 2006.
Garbs is survived by his parents, Doug and Jill Garbs of Edwardsville, Ill.

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Spec. Brandon D. Gordon, 21, of Naples, Fla. He was assigned to B Company, 2nd Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Gordon joined the Army in October 2003 and has been with the 160th since May 2005.
He is survived by his father, Gene Gordon, mother, Terri Gordon, and brothers, Bryan, Bradley and Cole, from Naples, Fla.

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CW3 Hershel D. McCants, Jr., 33, of Arizona. He was assigned to B Company, 2nd Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), Fort Campbell, Ky.
McCants enlisted in the Army in October 1991. He earned his pilot wings in 2001 and joined the 160th in 2005.
He is survived by his wife, Shannon, son, Trevor (11), and daughter, Kylie (11 months). McCants’ mother, Goldie Murphy, and father, Hershel D. McCants, Sr., also survive him

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CW3 John A. Quinlan, 36, of New Jersey. He was assigned to B Company, 2nd Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), Fort Campbell, Ky.
He originally enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps in October 1988. He was accepted into the Army Warrant Officer entry program in 1997. He joined the 160th in 2003.
He is survived by his wife, Julie, and three daughters – Keely (10), Madeline (8) and Erin (3). His parents, Robert and Kate Quinlan, and sister, Susan, also survive him.

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Pfc. Kristofer D. Thomas, 18, of Roseville, Calif. He was assigned to B Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.
Thomas joined the Army Feb. 9, 2006. By September 2006, he had completed One Station Unit Training, airborne school and Ranger Indoctrination Program at Fort Benning.
Lincoln, Calif. and Debby Getz of Roseville, Calif.

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Spec. Travis R. Vaughn, 26, of Reinbeck, Iowa. He was assigned to B Company, 2nd Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Vaughn joined the Army in October 2003 and joined the 160th in July 2005.
He is survived by his wife, Heather, and son, Taylin (5).

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Sgt. Adam A. Wilkinson, 23, of Miskayuna, N.Y.; B Company, 2nd Battalion, 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), Fort Campbell, Ky.
Wilkinson joined the Army in March 2002. He arrived at the 160th in May 2005
He is survived by his wife, Tyffanie, and son, Carson (1).

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[Creeper]

via: http://www2.afsoc.af.mil/
2/21/2007 - Hurlburt Field, Florida -- Tech. Sgt. Scott E. Duffman, 32, of Albuquerque, N.M. was killed in a MH-47 helicopter crash in Afghanistan on Sunday.
Sergeant Duffman, a pararescueman, was assigned to the 24th Special Tactics Squadron at Pope Air Force Base, N.C. The 24th STS falls under the 720th Special Tactics Group, a unit of Air Force Special Operations Command here.

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RIP Green Feet.

[Echo300]

Rip..... :-(

[BrianT]

Wow I was a roommate with Kristofer Thomas in RIP...jesus christ.

[SAPPEROIF]

Damn...another MH-47..and good soldiers lost. Thanks for the info...may they all RIP.......:-(

[SAPPEROIF]

via: http://www2.afsoc.af.mil/
2/21/2007 - Hurlburt Field, Florida -- Tech. Sgt. Scott E. Duffman, 32, of Albuquerque, N.M. was killed in a MH-47 helicopter crash in Afghanistan on Sunday.
Sergeant Duffman, a pararescueman, was assigned to the 24th Special Tactics Squadron at Pope Air Force Base, N.C. The 24th STS falls under the 720th Special Tactics Group, a unit of Air Force Special Operations Command here.

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RIP Green Feet.
Damn...RIP..
I think he was also involved in some of the very first Ops in Afghanistan after 9/11 with Lt.Col Amerine and others,

[tbtstt]

Hi all!

Just discovered this forum yesterday and, having trawled through the posts, I thought I’d pass a few (hopefully helpful) comments on what I’ve read.

Firstly, for those of you debating whether to buy the Military Power Series “Night Stalkers” book if you search for it on www.Amazon.co.uk (http://www.amazon.co.uk/) you can find a review I wrote on there shortly after I purchased the book. I do waffle a bit but in short don’t buy the book if you’re looking for precise technical information. I flicked through the book again last night and, in just a single chapter, counted a handful of technical errors – I would strongly recommend the book though if you want to see some excellent images of 160th SOAR aircraft. The book contains all the images I’ve seen in this thread (in better quality) and a lot more beside.

For those of you who are really interested in the subject I’d also advise you to pick up International Air Power Review Volume 4. You can find it at www.airtimepublishing.com (http://www.airtimepublishing.com/) That contains an article written by Ted Carlson (who I mention in the Amazon review for “Night Stalkers”) which isn’t that long (12 or 14 pages I think) but has some fantastic images in it – the text is also really well written and, as best as I can tell, is all technically correct. It is pretty expensive to buy the book just for a few pages but, if you are really interested in the 160th SOAR, it’s a good investment.

I actually had an E-mail conversation with Carlson several years ago asking if he’d be willing to let me use some of his images on a dedicated Night Stalkers reference site. At the time I was saying that I could find no decent single reference source for the Night Stalkers and their equipment on either the net or in publication – alas I never had the time to complete the site, but shortly afterwards I spotted the above article in International Air Power Review; I never did find out if it was a consequence of my communication with him or not!

Additional reading that may also interest SOAR fans is; “Black Hawk Down” (obviously – though the book is infinitely better than the film, so check it out if you liked the film) and “Chariots Of The Damned” (Mike McKinney & Mike Ryan). It’s not a highly detailed book, but is a whistle stop account of all the major Helicopter based Special Op’s from Vietnam to Kosovo, and it has some pretty interesting facts in it. You can probably find most of the content of the book spread across the net, but it’s good to have it all in one place.

I’ve just ordered Durant’s new book so hopefully I’ll soon be able to pass judgement on that too, I was pretty disappointed with “In The Company Of Heroes” (not the subject matter, just the delivery) so I’m hoping this one will be a bit better as I believe a ghost (or shadow) writer was used.

Anyway I hope that lots of help to someone!

[Sand Man]

Anyway I hope that lots of help to someone!

I am guessing you got a PM from Ravage... :D

[Ravage]

Nope, never did.