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UkrainianSpetsnaz
11-28-2003, 04:44 PM
Whats up!?

Here are about 3% of my T-84 pics. The rest will be on mah website.
T-84 is a Ukrainian Design, basicly based off the T-72 but with tremendous improvements in all fields. Soon to be exported for I believe Pakistan, Turkey also thought about it, and some other countries.
I got to see it in 2002, UNBELIEVABLE!!! I have never seen such a gorgeous tank! MADE IN THE UKRAINE! Like Me!

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/ukrainianmilitary/T84GreeceTrials4.jpg On trials in Greece

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/ukrainianmilitary/T84_23.jpg

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/ukrainianmilitary/Turkey.jpg



http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/ukrainianmilitary/t84-12l.jpg
Makes me cry how beuatiful it is.

http://www.ukraineonline.net/images/ukrainianmilitary/TurkeyTrials4.jpg

Operation Ivy
11-28-2003, 05:45 PM
Awsome Pics!! :hug: woot ,still gotta stick my Abrams though ;) woot

UkrainianSpetsnaz
11-28-2003, 06:07 PM
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA I will crush you!!! With my low sillohute or how you spell it, I will drive circles around you and shoot you!! And yell out "Easssstsssssiiidddeee!!!" LOL

I like the way the abrams looks, but it looks like a frikin mobile home, it's huge, do they have beds in there and stuff? Maybe a shower, a tv with dvd player, mini fridge?? LOL

Thanks Ivy

Macs.
11-28-2003, 08:09 PM
Pff, try to beat this. p-)

http://superguy.bei.t-online.de/LEO%202%20A6%20%20EX.jpg
http://superguy.bei.t-online.de/Leo2A51.jpg

Marxist203
11-28-2003, 08:36 PM
Leopard 2A6 Woot!

mocking_loudly_died
11-28-2003, 08:41 PM
Damn, we need a tank war to sort out the best.

Operation Ivy
11-28-2003, 10:57 PM
Ahhhhh i hate all u Leo people :P !!! :D ....i think me and Ukrainian Spetsnaz will take our Abrams and T-80's and meet u Leo guys at a place called Kursk ;) woot settle this once and for all woot

Heres a pic of your Leo ;)

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Leohaha.jpg

webfoots
11-28-2003, 11:00 PM
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA I will crush you!!! With my low sillohute or how you spell it, I will drive circles around you and shoot you!! And yell out "Easssstsssssiiidddeee!!!" LOL

I like the way the abrams looks, but it looks like a frikin mobile home, it's huge, do they have beds in there and stuff? Maybe a shower, a tv with dvd player, mini fridge?? LOL

The size of the Abrams has come up quite a few times in recent posts but has anybody really checked the numbers between these MBT's?

M1A2 Abrams
Height: 2.375 m
Width: 3.658 m
Length: 9.83
Weight: 70.66 mt
Speed: 67.59 kph

T-80
Height: 2.20 m
Width: 3.60 m
Length: 7.01 m
Weight: 46.0 mt
Speed: 70 kph

Leopard 2
Height: 2.79 m
Width: 3.70 m
Length: 7.69 m
Weight: 55.15 mt
Speed: 72 kph

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m1.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/leopard2.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t80tank.htm

96B
11-28-2003, 11:08 PM
Those tanks aint got ****e on mine...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000A0O1Q.01.PT01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Macs.
11-28-2003, 11:44 PM
Ahhhhh i hate all u Leo people :P !!! :D ....i think me and Ukrainian Spetsnaz will take our Abrams and T-80's and meet u Leo guys at a place called Kursk ;) woot settle this once and for all woot

Heres a pic of your Leo ;)

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Leohaha.jpg

Damn !!!
But this ain't german soldiers, and I dont think (hope p-) ) it is a Leo.

Abrams in action:
http://forum.bf-42.org/images/avatars/5089e0af3e0dc57934b32.gif ;)

Operation Ivy
11-28-2003, 11:57 PM
Damn you! :P i bet you just made that photo :D

UkrainianSpetsnaz
11-28-2003, 11:58 PM
LOL 96B, I forfeit to you man, you tank owns all!!!


Yeah me and Ivy will meet you Leo freaks and kick your ass. Ivy in his Abrams, me in my T-84, we will kick your ass! We will call it "Operation Kiss Assious Maximus"

kinghk
11-29-2003, 03:12 AM
http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Leohaha.jpg

Damn !!!
But this ain't german soldiers, and I dont think (hope p-) ) it is a Leo.
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It's swedish soldiers, and yes - it is a Leo.

PAK
11-29-2003, 06:00 AM
Abrams in action:
http://forum.bf-42.org/images/avatars/5089e0af3e0dc57934b32.gif ;)

From what I remember, this is not an Abrams, but israeli Merkava.
But after all, there were photos of Abrams lying upside down. It was from some exercies in USA.

S'13
11-29-2003, 06:54 AM
Abrams in action:
http://forum.bf-42.org/images/avatars/5089e0af3e0dc57934b32.gif ;)

From what I remember, this is not an Abrams, but israeli Merkava.
But after all, there were photos of Abrams lying upside down. It was from some exercies in USA.

Looks like a training exercise gone terribly out of control...

S'13
11-29-2003, 07:05 AM
Speaking of the Merkava...

http://www.waronline.org/en/IDF/arms/Merk_photos/merkava4.jpg

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/tanks/merkava/merkava4_3.gif

http://www.defense-update.com/news/merkava4.jpg

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/tanks/merkava/merkava4_4.gif

Merkava Mk 4 Key Data:
Crew: 4, driver, commander, gunner, loader

Dimensions
Length with gun forward: 9.04m
Width without skirts: 3.72m
Height to turret roof: 2.66m
Weight: 65t

Engines
V-12 diesel engine: 1,500hp

Performance
Maximum speed: over 60km/h
Cross country speed: up to 55km/h
Range: 500km

Weapons
Main gun: 120mm
Ammunition on board: 48 rounds
Ready to fire rounds: 10
Machine gun: 7.62mm
Mortar: 60mm
Mortar range: 2,700m

Operation Ivy
11-29-2003, 10:26 AM
Well at least the Abrams, T-80, and Merkava have had battle experience ;)

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Tank23.jpg


http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Tank24.jpg

MaCV-SOG
11-29-2003, 10:43 AM
Here's some Leopard pics in the Canadian Army

http://www.armyimages.forces.gc.ca/cls_images/hires/2003-06-03/lf2003-0318.jpg

http://www.armyimages.forces.gc.ca/getimage.asp?fileres=hi&filetype=jpg&filepath=E:\InetPub\cls_portfolio\cls_images\HiRes\2003-07-29\LF2003-0859.jpg

http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/downloads/desktop_pictures/ar_dp_1_800.jpg

http://www.armee.forces.gc.ca/lf/VRTours/leopard/images/big/action1.jpg

http://www.armee.forces.gc.ca/lf/VRTours/leopard/images/big/action2.jpg

http://www.armee.forces.gc.ca/lf/VRTours/leopard/images/big/action4.jpg

Javehn
11-29-2003, 05:07 PM
http://forum.bf-42.org/images/avatars/5089e0af3e0dc57934b32.gif

Haaaa ? What crazy ass full thought that was an Abrams ? Haha-get out of here.
And by the way - Leopard 1A stinks ! it has an armor of 70 mm , and even little boy with rogatka can punch it throw . And , armor does more important then speed . Thank god it never been used (i think so , at list...).
I just joking.The tank doesn't matter , it's the people inside . The man in the tank will prevail. Huya Huya Huya .

http://www.waronline.org/en/IDF/arms/Merk_photos/merkava4.jpg

Get out of here ....

Herrmannek
11-29-2003, 05:21 PM
And by the way - Leopard 1A stinks ! it has an armor of 70 mm , and even little boy with rogatka can punch it throw .

(*)small correction :) .
Poles aren't goin to attack leopards beacuse they are riding in them :), and "rogatka" is a toll-gate, the square shaped hat is called "rogatywka" :)

Ułan-Polish cavalary private equipment from 1939. Rogatywka is hat with no.1:
http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/aa1/m_ulan_39a.jpg

(*) If you mean something else sorry.

Javehn
11-29-2003, 05:30 PM
:lol: rofl :hug:

Who talked about polans ? I talked about that rogatka -


http://jk.by.ru/arsenal/images/rogat/strelok.jpg

That Rogatka , hahahaha :bash:

Herrmannek
11-29-2003, 05:41 PM
:lol: rofl :hug:

Who talked about polans ? I talked about that rogatka -
http://jk.by.ru/arsenal/images/rogat/strelok.jpg
That Rogatka , hahahaha :bash:
Hey I gave disclimer in the bottom of my post. But when someone is talking about destroing german tanks and use words similiar to polish cavalery equpiment, he ask for truble, but you've got me this time :). Now I must correct you again :). Polans are old polish tribe/ancestors and Poles is our current name :) so you are right, before my post noone was talking about Polans.

Javehn
11-29-2003, 06:04 PM
Polan , ha ?
"Tvardi" , main polan battle tank , also called "RT-91" , modernization of T-72m1 , manufactured in 1994. Good **** ! Uses dinamic protection "Erava-1/2" , that's much better then same Russian Recative armored made in Ussr for T-72M1. There is 80 mm mortar on the tank , some nice Fire Control system "Savan" (Frenchy). New polan engine , 12 cilinder turbo-diesel mottor 625 KWT , that makes him go to speeds of 75 km/h.

http://voend.narod.ru/army/tank/poland/pt_91.jpg

perdurabo
11-30-2003, 06:27 AM
no RT but PT-91 TWARDY and pt91 has fire control polish DrawaT1 mortar80? hmm didn't heard:)
PT91M is going to Malesya (sp?) it has new engine 1000hp with renk power pack it also has french savan fire control
btw malesyans tested also t80 and stuff but buys our PT91M:D
btw2. india is modernising their t72 with polish help (drawaT2 control system and other stuff)
btw3. ausis govt. looks for replacment of their LeoAS1 because bullet from ASLAV-25 (25mm) can penetrate it's armour and malesyans got our twardy :D
btw4. Poland is using PT91A, Leo2A4 and T72M (thwy will be turned into PT91)
and i would take Leo2A6 over any T80 (ammo magazine under turret **** i don't want to be fired chicken when it blows up) Abrams (****ty engine) don't know about merkava 3/4 (engine in front so it's good for survival of crew) but i'm waiting for new polish tank (prabably because lack of money they will cancel this program:()
edited:made mistake in ausis stryker/lav25 deasignation

Operation Ivy
11-30-2003, 09:11 AM
Abrams (****ty engine)

At least its very silent :P so we can sneak up on you Leo ppl!!!! :D

Fliptape
11-30-2003, 12:20 PM
The M1A1 Abrams is battleproven, more than you can say about any other tank of the 20th century

edit:and the Challenger

UoUo
11-30-2003, 12:21 PM
Why do you think that the Merkava isn't battle provenen ?

81 war..and the corrent war will say all.

S'13
11-30-2003, 12:27 PM
Why do you think that the Merkava isn't battle provenen ?

81 war..and the corrent war will say all.

True...


The Merkava Mk-I tank participated with a high degree of success in the 1982 war in Lebanon when the war started Israel had 200-300 Merkava Mk 1 tanks.
The Merkava Mk 1 proved superior to the Syrian T-72 MBT (then the Soviet's newest tank).
Production of Merkava Mk 1 continued up to 1983, when the IDF Armor Corps began to receive the Merkava Mk 2 tank.



http://www.arms.ru/tank/fotos/merk_6a.jpg

http://www.voodoo.cz/merkava/images/mk1/mk1_12.jpg

Javehn
11-30-2003, 12:58 PM
Merkava 3 rules ....
http://www.steelbeasts.com/albums/Javehn-s-Album/mitvah_tutahim.sized.jpg

2alef kavod..

S'13
11-30-2003, 01:01 PM
Merkava 3 rules ....
http://www.steelbeasts.com/albums/Javehn-s-Album/mitvah_tutahim.sized.jpg

2alef kavod..

rofl woot rofl woot