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Sayeret
04-13-2005, 07:01 PM
"Police say this is the worst one-day massacre in the history of the U.S." (July 18, 1984)

On July 18, 1984, 41-year-old James Oliver Huberty walked into a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, a suburb of San Diego, California, and opened fire with an arsenal of guns, killing 21 people and wounding 19. Huberty's murderous rampage ended 257 rounds and 77 minutes later when he was shot dead by a police marksman stationed on the roof next door. The victims ranged in age from eight months to 74 years. Huberty was a welder in Massillon, Ohio, when he lost his job and decided to move to California with his wife and two children. He worked as a security guard in San Diego but was fired for failing to perform his job properly. One week later, he called a mental health center asking for an appointment, and a receptionist took his name but did not call him back. The next day--July 18, 1984-- Huberty took an Uzi submachine gun , a shotgun, and a semiautomatic pistol to McDonald's and killed 21 diners. It was the worst one-day massacre in the United States to that date. Huberty's wife later filed a $5 million suit against McDonald's, claiming that her husband's rampage was caused by eating too many Chicken McNuggets. McDonald's tore down the San Ysidro restaurant and gave the property to the city, which eventually opened a community college campus on the site. In front of the school is a memorial to Huberty's victims that consists of 21 hexagonal granite pillars ranging in height from one to six feet.

http://www.historychannel.com/speeches/archive/speech_361.html

I thought the criminal's wife's attempt to have a $5 million suit against McDonald was pretty disgusting.

Erik_MAA
04-13-2005, 07:22 PM
This tragic incident has an unfortunate historical signifiance. After this event, the National Coalition to Ban Handguns and the Brady Campaign joined forces and began to call for a ban on semi-automatic "assault weapons." (The Uzi Huberty used was not a submachine gun, but a semi-automatic rifle version). In 1994 this misguided legislation was passed. Fortunately, this law "sunset" last year.

Laconian
04-13-2005, 08:02 PM
I remember looking at the crime scene photos from this & thinking, "I will always carry off-duty."

Bryson C
04-13-2005, 08:11 PM
I thought the criminal's wife's attempt to have a $5 million suit against McDonald was pretty disgusting.

I agree, if anyone should be sued it should be the mental health centre for not calling back. by sueing McDonalds it looks like she's trying to cash in on that terrible tragedy.

Belrick
04-13-2005, 08:53 PM
"In 1994 this misguided legislation was passed. Fortunately, this law "sunset" last year."

Cool, good to know that pychos in the USA that when they choose to go ona rampage can kill people much faster than a mere pistol or bolt action rifle allows.

Erik_MAA
04-13-2005, 10:22 PM
I remember looking at the crime scene photos from this & thinking, "I will always carry off-duty."

War story...When I got out of the Army in 1992 I was still carrying habitually. I decided not to carry 24/7 and made the conscious decision not to carry while going to school (I was going to University of Nebraska).

The first day I decided not to carry I was tired from working a night shift the night before so I cut my afternoon class. That very day a nutcase walked into my class with an M1 carbine and tried to open fire. Fortunately, the gun jammed and he was overpowered while fleeing the scene.

I often wonder...what if I had been there, without my gun? And his gun had not jammed? There for the grace of the gods go I.

Since then, I have carried everywhere that's legal and practical.

Bryson C
04-13-2005, 10:55 PM
I remember looking at the crime scene photos from this & thinking, "I will always carry off-duty."

War story...When I got out of the Army in 1992 I was still carrying habitually. I decided not to carry 24/7 and made the conscious decision not to carry while going to school (I was going to University of Nebraska).

The first day I decided not to carry I was tired from working a night shift the night before so I cut my afternoon class. That very day a nutcase walked into my class with an M1 carbine and tried to open fire. Fortunately, the gun jammed and he was overpowered while fleeing the scene.

I often wonder...what if I had been there, without my gun? And his gun had not jammed? There for the grace of the gods go I.

Since then, I have carried everywhere that's legal and practical.

The gun jammed, very lucky.

I also have a story. When I was in High school, some nut brought a shoot gun to school. Luckly while the gun toting nut was walking to the front door of the school, some one saw the gun under his coat and 3 guys standing around by the front door jumped him and disamred him. Rumour has it he was upset over a girl.

Sayeret
04-14-2005, 12:20 AM
"In 1994 this misguided legislation was passed. Fortunately, this law "sunset" last year."

Cool, good to know that pychos in the USA that when they choose to go ona rampage can kill people much faster than a mere pistol or bolt action rifle allows.

Don't try to bring in any anti-gun or pro-gun debates in this thread. I didn't create the thread for that purpose, if that were my intention I would put it in the political and rant section.