Balkan Training Camps Pose a New Attack Threat

[RSK]

Balkan Training Camps Pose a New Attack Threat

Stratfor - April 1, 2005

Summary

German intelligence's discovery of a militant Islamist training network in Bosnia and Kosovo, with roots on the Afghan-Pakistani border, suggests that some jihadist networks are still able to reach across the globe and stage attacks.

Analysis

Europe faces potential attack threats from European-looking Islamist militants. Sources in German intelligence and the Israeli government say the militants in question, Muslim Albanians from Kosovo's Orahovac region, are getting advanced training in Kosovo.

The information, if correct, suggests that a certain group of international militant Islamists have developed an intricate global network, operating basic training camps on the Afghan-Pakistani border and advanced training programs in the Balkans -- where they are relying on the advanced skills of combat-tested veterans from the Chechen and Iraqi wars. This particular network, according to the sources, aims to conduct operations in Europe and Israel, though other similar networks also likely exist in Germany and North America. It is unclear whether such networks are linked to each other -- or to al Qaeda.

Sources in German intelligence and in the Israeli government independently reported the same information on Islamist militant training camps in Kosovo that have sent their most recent "graduates" to Bosnia. Germany in particular, through its Federal Intelligence Service and other intelligence services, is keeping a keen eye on the Balkans -- where Kosovo and Bosnia are located -- as it tries to reclaim its interests there. Also, intelligence sources in KFOR, the NATO-led peacekeeping force in Kosovo, say they are aware of Islamist training activities in Kosovo in general but do not know about the militants sent to Bosnia. Reports of militant Islamist training in the Balkans date as far back as 2002.

The actual intelligence pertains to several dozen ethnic Kosovar Albanian militants discovered in Bosnia. No arrests have been made, however, perhaps because counterterrorism authorities are tracking them. According to the intelligence, these militants, from Kosovo's Orahovacs region, received basic training near the Afghan-Pakistani border and then returned to Kosovo for advanced training. They then relocated to Bosnia, where Imam Sulejman Bugari -- an ethnic Albanian from Orahovac in Kosovo and head of the White Mosque in Vratnik, a Muslim-dominated part of Sarajevo -- offered them religious support. This also is where Bosnian-based Islamist commanders supposedly are posed to provide the militants with their instructions on where and how to attack.

The advantage of sending white Islamists into Europe, of course, is that they blend in well with the local populations and would attract little attention during the planning phase of an operation.

According to the Israeli sources, these Kosovar Albanian militants are trained to launch terrorist-style attacks -- possibly including suicide bombings -- in Europe and Israel.

The fact that the network's training program includes basic and advanced levels -- in different countries -- indicates both a high level of organization and a system designed to turn out well-trained combatants. Instructors in charge of basic training on either side of the Afghan-Pakistani border most likely are regional veterans of the 1980s war in Afghanistan. Training in this region is considered basic because the instructors have had only low-intensity, somewhat sporadic combat experience -- meaning they have used machine guns or other basic firearms in guerrilla-type combat or perhaps have planted the simplest of road bombs.

Advanced training takes place in Kosovo for two main reasons:
1. location and the quality of the instructors.
2.As a result of ethnic wars in the early 1990s, Kosovo and Bosnia have very weak central authorities that cannot -- or will not -- monitor and combat terrorist-training activity. The authoritative bodies within the region, NATO and EU peacekeepers, are there to control ethnic uprisings and might not be looking for other potential security threats in the area.

Though some intelligence officers in the EUFOR, the EU-lead peacekeeping force in Bosnia, and KFOR in Kosovo sometimes report on Islamist activities in both regions, such leads are rarely investigated, sources in the Italian contingent said. For instance, militant Albanians practicing on firing ranges have been known to pose as police recruits, according to Albanian sources. Counterterrorism authorities in the area probably would not think twice about such activity, since they would assume nothing so sinister could be going on right under the peacekeepers' noses.

In addition to working in a secure area in Kosovo, the Albanians and perhaps other new jihadists are receiving advanced-level training from battle-hardened Iraqi and Chechen Islamists -- German intelligence sources say -- who have come up against two challenging and capable opponents: U.S. and Russian troops. The intensity of the opposition faced by Iraqi and Chechen militants has forced them to develop and improve their tactics -- lessons they can pass on to the Albanian Islamist militants.

The sources say this group of militants is now in Bosnia. It is unclear whether Bosnia is a target or merely a transit zone for these militants, although the latter seems the more plausible, as the sources have pinpointed Europe and Israel as the targets. Also, considering that the Islamist militant commanders are in the Bosnian capital of Sarajevo, Bosnia likely serves as the command and control center for this network, so staging attacks there could jeopardize their safe haven. EU peacekeepers in Bosnia, however, would offer a handy target should they want to stage an attack from their present position.

It should be noted that neither the German nor the Israeli source linked the Albanian Islamist militants to the al Qaeda network. The failure to mention al Qaeda could be another indication that Osama bin Laden's network is losing influence over the transnational jihadist movement.

The recently-uncovered network, however, is not the only such group. Other international Islamist networks also have been established to train and distribute militants to target various areas. According to the March 30 Washington Post, an FBI affidavit, for example, has reported on a possible North American network of Islamist militants, in which militants are recruited to fight in Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya and Somalia. There also is a group of militants trained in Georgia's Pankisi Gorge and a group in Germany, where, media sources say, officials have acknowledged that Iraq's Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was planning chemical attacks against Europe. It is unclear whether these networks are connected to one another, or to al Qaeda.

Whether the Albanian Islamist militants graduated from this training network pose a credible security threat depends on two primary factors. The first is how well security services react to the network. Judging by what Stratfor has learned, German intelligence and the Israeli government are aware of the networks' existence, which, of course, is the first step in thwarting an attack -- though it is not a guarantee.

The second factor is the militants' capabilities. Albanians have cropped up among Islamist militants in the past, but no information suggests Albanians have played a major role -- either in planning or executing major attacks -- anywhere in the jihadist theaters of operations. This suggests the group's capabilities could be limited to small-scale guerrilla-style attacks and individual assassination attempts. On the other hand, the Albanians could still surprise.

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[goldman]

WAW that article is full of ****..... seriously if u ever go to kosovo u will see us and eu flags even israel has open a office there and helped us during the war and now u think we are just going to forget all about that man u're full of **** all u post is pure hatred and propagnda in here im surprised how long u have lasted.

[RSK]

WAW that article is full of ****..... seriously if u ever go to kosovo u will see us and eu flags even israel has open a office there and helped us during the war and now u think we are just going to forget all about that man u're full of **** all u post is pure hatred and propagnda in here im surprised how long u have lasted.

This aint my info! I got it from Stratfor.com.

Cheers!

[Sir Zach of R.]

I did a buttload of research on this last October just before the election. I got started by a report that John Kerry had received donations from the KLA by its leader, Hashim Thaci. Basicly, my essay outlined the KLA's plan to attack UN peacekeepers if Kosovo did not become a sovereign country. If I can find it, I'll post the Washington Times article that said UBL had traveled to Albania to sell weapons to the KLA.

edit: Just realized I had some of it stored on my harddrive. Here's a Dutch documentery which pretty much outlines everything.
http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/afleveringen/18793157/

[RSK]

I did a buttload of research on this last October just before the election. I got started by a report that John Kerry had received donations from the KLA by its leader, Hashim Thaci. Basicly, my essay outlined the KLA's plan to attack UN peacekeepers if Kosovo did not become a sovereign country. If I can find it, I'll post the Washington Times article that said UBL had traveled to Albania to sell weapons to the KLA.

edit: Just realized I had some of it stored on my harddrive. Here's a Dutch documentery which pretty much outlines everything.
http://www.vpro.nl/programma/tegenlicht/afleveringen/18793157/

Good find Sir Zach of R.!

Cheers!

[Frank Discussion]

I did a buttload of research on this last October just before the election. I got started by a report that John Kerry had received donations from the KLA by its leader, Hashim Thaci. Basicly, my essay outlined the KLA's plan to attack UN peacekeepers if Kosovo did not become a sovereign country. If I can find it, I'll post the Washington Times article that said UBL had traveled to Albania to sell weapons to the KLA.


As if anyone would be surprised that Wesley Clark, Holbrooke and Krasniqi operate hand in hand. Gelbard clearly stated in 1998 that:

" "We condemn very strongly terrorist actions in Kosovo. The UCK is, without any questions, a terrorist group."

Holbrooke and Clark both appear with Krasniqi, a self-declared member of the UCK at a Democratic fund-raiser for Kerry. Krasniqi bragged to "60 Minutes" that he shipped as many as one hundred .50 caliber sniper rifles to the sources in Albania to supply the UCK.

[Frank Discussion]

German intelligence's discovery of a militant Islamist training network in Bosnia and Kosovo, with roots on the Afghan-Pakistani border, suggests that some jihadist networks are still able to reach across the globe and stage attacks.


Given the prior well established connections between the BND and the UCK, am I the only one who finds this ironic?

I suppose we should all thank the BND for pointing out the obvious.

[2RHPZ]

According to the Israeli sources, these Kosovar Albanian militants are trained to launch terrorist-style attacks -- possibly including suicide bombings -- in Europe and Israel.

I am on doubt if any K-Albanian becomes a suicidal bomber ... that is "good" info and find just for those who never were in Kosovo and didn ´t work with Albanians. Since 2001 we are feeding up with "correct" infos on Bosnian and K-Albanian terrorists. Tell me when you spot them, OK?
Anyway, there are thousands of NATO troops in Kosovo and Bosnia and considering the size of these two territories (plus technical advantages) - the existence of such camps is very doubtful.
Anyway, I refered just to the camps existence and Albanians terrorist activities, not to the connections with Aq and other terror nets. That is another story ...

[RGRBOX]

You guys can say what you want, but those people are up to know good. They have some of the largest crimminal organizations with in Europe. Sometimes I wonder if the Serbs weren't on the right track when it came to those people, no I'm not talking about masacres... I'm talking about control. This region is the border of Europe and Islaim. The Turks/Arabs have had there hands in this region since the Great Crusades...

[2RHPZ]

You guys can say what you want, but those people are up to know good. They have some of the largest crimminal organizations with in Europe. Sometimes I wonder if the Serbs weren't on the right track when it came to those people, no I'm not talking about masacres... I'm talking about control. This region is the border of Europe and Islaim. The Turks/Arabs have had there hands in this region since the Great Crusades...

I know what you want to say but look, I alway laugh when ppl started to talk about mafias. Do you know serbian or macedonian or croatina mafias? They are everywhere, and BTW, cooperate very closely. There are no differences between Albanians and Serbians.

The point about territory control is nonsense. Their islam was/is very moderate. The only way, how to keep out fundamentals back from the Balkan is the EU/USA/NATO help. Sad but true. If we abandon them probably the first way lead to the AQ. How could you control spreading islam in the third millenium? In the time of Net ... and millions muslims in the West countries :|

[Sir Zach of R.]

I am more concerned with the KLA/UCK's connection to Iran and bin Laden. If there is a large enough connection made and a sizeable threat against US or UN interests, it's easy to see another conflict happening in the region within the next decade.

[2RHPZ]

I am more concerned with the KLA/UCK's connection to Iran and bin Laden. If there is a large enough connection made and a sizeable threat against US or UN interests, it's easy to see another conflict happening in the region within the next decade.

There has not been confirmed any connection yet. Don´t forget that KLA was trained by French, SAS and 10th SFG(A) in 1999 and before that there was just help from Albania. Some links were established on personal bases but there were no room for fundamentalists and terrorists for the abrupt development of events. I would have appreciate if someone more informed contribute to these facts. It is worth discussion ...

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I am more concerned with the KLA/UCK's connection to Iran and bin Laden. If there is a large enough connection made and a sizeable threat against US or UN interests, it's easy to see another conflict happening in the region within the next decade.The Kosovars and Bosnians are determined to keep us on their side possibly due to the fact that Iran an Al-Q can do nothing for them if the Serbs make a move on them.

[Lokos]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

[RGRBOX]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

There is a huge difference, the Albanians are Turkman, and the Serbs are White, Indo, Europeans...

[Miles.]

Thanks for posting all this, yall. Interesting to say the least...

[RGRBOX]

I read somewhere , where the Bat ran a raid 4 or 5 years back on an UCK base along the border...

[goldman]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

There is a huge difference, the Albanians are Turkman, and the Serbs are White, Indo, Europeans...

Mate are albanians are not turkman and btw albanians are also indo european

[Metak]

I heard that US closed small base near villages Odanovce and Novo Selo in Kosovo and Metohia in 2003 because they expected attack of militant Islamists as retaliation for invasion of Iraq. Can someone confirm this?

[goldman]

So much for terrorists ;)
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You guys really think albanians will attack americans and europeans after all they've done for us seriously this article is bull ****e.

[2RHPZ]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

I refered to the mafias ...

[Frank Discussion]

You guys really think albanians will attack americans and europeans after all they've done for us seriously this article is bull ****e.

I don't believe Albanians have any desire to attack the US or Western European targets. It's the extremist elements that warrant concern. What do you believe will happen in the ethnic Albanian majority in Kosovo is not granted independence?

In order for any long term solution to work in Kosovo, the voices of the moderates (on both sides) must prevail. In the post 9-11 world, it's easy for any Islamic armed group to be linked to Al-Qaeda. I believe the Albanian leadership is pragmatic enough to know that maintaining any established links to Al-Qaeda would pretty much be the death knell of any hope for the province gaining independence. The Bosnian government is still feeling the heat for recruiting "mujahideen" fighters, this lesson shouldn't be lost upon the Albanian leadership.

[RBIH_Troop]

This article is full of bull****...the old Bosnian President Zlatko Lagumdzija closed down a training came in the hills over sarajevo because he said it was a Terrorist Tranin camp....but because hes such a fuc*** retard he didn't know that the camp was a camp for training of Special Forces. But yea Serbia is also on the Top 25 of Suspected Terrorist COuntries..I mean Serbia did have that moron Arkan who was like a global terrorists and Milosevic, Karadzic, and that fat pig mladic.

[RBIH_Troop]

OKay one point I would like to make about Kosovo and BOsnia...

FIrst Kosovo, they just got out a war too, they are basically one of the poorest regions in the world. THey don't have freakin time or money to make some bullsh88 al quada camps and terrorist groups.

Bosnia has very close relations to the USA in BOth military and political views. The one reason they say bosnia has some crappy terrorist groups is because of the Mudzahedinee fighting in bosnia during the war..I will bet my life on this when I say that Bosnia or Kosovo or Albania have no damn terrorist relations with any bulls*** taliban moron militia groups. Bosnia is in Iraq and is also about to go to Afghanistan while other countries are pulling out there troops, which show close relations with the US. PLus once REpublika Srpska is officially canceled bosnia is gonna be in NATO and I read this in the BOsnian NEws paper Avaz. WHich says that American Troops are working with BOsnian troop in IRaq and once rep srpska is done bosnia will be a top power like USA, germany, france, england in NATO!...But doesn't serbia have like mafias, and that Black Hand Terrorist group?

[Sir Zach of R.]

So much for terrorists ;)
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You guys really think albanians will attack americans and europeans after all they've done for us seriously this article is bull ****e.

Don't think that I'm categorizing all Albanians as terrorists. By God no way. Just the ones who follow the KLA/UKC. To say the least, those who follow it are militants. But all Albanians, no way. :P

Whoo, glad I got that cleared up. :)

[BHM]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

There is a huge difference, the Albanians are Turkman, and the Serbs are White, Indo, Europeans...

OH my GOD

ALBANIANS are Ilirs, Iliryans ruled balkans before slavs come to balkans all of today Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia parts of bulgaria where ilirian teritory until Slaves came.Albanians of today are direct descendats of Iliryans.

And stupido arabs, persians, turkomens are also part of "white race".
If some take Islam as relligoin it does not mean that he changed race or nationality BTW many albanians are not muslim some 30%

[RSK]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

There is a huge difference, the Albanians are Turkman, and the Serbs are White, Indo, Europeans...

OH my GOD

ALBANIANS are Ilirs, Iliryans ruled balkans before slavs come to balkans all of today Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia parts of bulgaria where ilirian teritory until Slaves came.Albanians of today are direct descendats of Iliryans.

And stupido arabs, persians, turkomens are also part of "white race".
If some take Islam as relligoin it does not mean that he changed race or nationality BTW many albanians are not muslim some 30%

BHM,

You are truely on drugs!

[BHM]

Yes I know first serbs came to world then microcelular organizms.... then amebas.....

And no, turks and arabs belong to black race or some Brown maybe :lol:

Go eat some good books then we will have a talk.

[goldman]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

There is a huge difference, the Albanians are Turkman, and the Serbs are White, Indo, Europeans...

OH my GOD

ALBANIANS are Ilirs, Iliryans ruled balkans before slavs come to balkans all of today Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia parts of bulgaria where ilirian teritory until Slaves came.Albanians of today are direct descendats of Iliryans.

And stupido arabs, persians, turkomens are also part of "white race".
If some take Islam as relligoin it does not mean that he changed race or nationality BTW many albanians are not muslim some 30%

BHM,

You are truely on drugs!

The man speaks the truth i bet the truth hurts doesn it RSK ;)

[2RHPZ]

CAG:

There are no differences between Serbs and Albanians?

I'm starting to wonder about you.

Lokos

There is a huge difference, the Albanians are Turkman, and the Serbs are White, Indo, Europeans...

OH my GOD

ALBANIANS are Ilirs, Iliryans ruled balkans before slavs come to balkans all of today Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia parts of bulgaria where ilirian teritory until Slaves came.Albanians of today are direct descendats of Iliryans.

And stupido arabs, persians, turkomens are also part of "white race".
If some take Islam as relligoin it does not mean that he changed race or nationality BTW many albanians are not muslim some 30%

BHM,

You are truely on drugs!

According to the real history facts, without emotions and biased views, BHM is right on 100%, RSK. I know that many Serbs do not know that ´cause it was not taught in your schools. BTW, The percentage of muslims in K-Albanian population is myabe lower yet.

[Lokos]

CAG:

So, he's also right in saying that SEMITIC Arabs and TURANIC Turkmen are part of the WHITE race? How does that work?

...

Lokos

[2RHPZ]

CAG:

So, he's also right in saying that SEMITIC Arabs and TURANIC Turkmen are part of the WHITE race? How does that work?

...

Lokos

Come on! I am a bit tired with such talks! Guys, please, cool down, don ´t go too far! White race, black race, Otomans, chetniks ... I don´t know why I am surprised after all of my experiences with your nations but still ...

I follow administrator post in locked topic in History section:


Topics like this are pointless. "We want to show that your war crimes are as bad as ours" This is a truly sad statement because it says that both sides are slaughtering each other in large numbers and have been for a very long time. Until both sides can forgive each other and move on, it'll keep going and going. People have sent me PM's and emails about getting involved in these Serb vs. Bosnian arguments and I have no interest because there's no point. As long as the hate keeps going, it'll never end and there's no solution. Whether this group killed that group in Srebrenica or anywhere else doesn't really matter. It's just another small point on a big picture of mass killings similar to the Israel vs. Palestinians conflict. Someone has to be the first to put down the sword and not pick it up again.

We, Czechs, have saying: "The more wise ppl step back" and that is related to the pointless discussions. Try to do it at least on this forum. Many times I´ve asked constructive questions but no answer. I think I would keep back of anything related to the Balkan.

Regards,
CAG 147

[Frank Discussion]

But yea Serbia is also on the Top 25 of Suspected Terrorist COuntries..I mean Serbia did have that moron Arkan who was like a global terrorists and Milosevic, Karadzic, and that fat pig mladic.

Feel free to post a source or link for this so-called "list", I'll be waiting patiently.

Oh, by the way, has the Bosnian government reissued Bin Laden's passport?

Exactly how many of the 9-11 hijackers had Bosnian passports anyway...

Let's see, there was Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, both of whom former CIA director George Tenet stated before Congress fought wiith the Mujahideen in Bosnia and Chechnya.

The Bosnian Government also granted none other then Khalid Sheikh Mohammed not only a passport, but citizenship, (By a decision of Sarajevo Police No. 09/2-204-108 dated April 30, 1994)

I could continue but I think the point has been made. You can continue to exaggerate the fact that you have sent some EOD units to Iraq, but the above facts speak for themselves. Bosnia isn't part of the solution, its part of the problem.

[RBIH_Troop]

Feel free to post a source or link for this so-called "list", I'll be waiting patiently.

Oh, by the way, has the Bosnian government reissued Bin Laden's passport?

Exactly how many of the 9-11 hijackers had Bosnian passports anyway...

Let's see, there was Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, both of whom former CIA director George Tenet stated before Congress fought wiith the Mujahideen in Bosnia and Chechnya.

The Bosnian Government also granted none other then Khalid Sheikh Mohammed not only a passport, but citizenship, (By a decision of Sarajevo Police No. 09/2-204-108 dated April 30, 1994)

I could continue but I think the point has been made. You can continue to exaggerate the fact that you have sent some EOD units to Iraq, but the above facts speak for themselves. Bosnia isn't part of the solution, its part of the problem.

OMG you know how much I hate you, no word or anything in this world would descibe my hate towards you..You know why? Because your such a ****ing idiot and moron and you don't even know it. Once you show me the Bosnian Passport Bin Laden had I will go get the magazine from the Library that shows the list of 25 countries who are suspected to have relations with terrorists. I know your type, your one of those retarded ****s who reads or hears some bull**** on tv that says "hey did you know bosnia gave out passports to terrorists" and you say "OHHH GEEE I guess they did" IDIOT sit down go over the **** u heard and think about it. You honestly are a true top of the line Nazi, Terrorist, idiot, retard, moron, ****, stupid uneducated ****, go ****ing kill yourself no one would miss you trust me, not even your close family u lil ****!!

[Frank Discussion]

OMG you know how much I hate you, no word or anything in this world would descibe my hate towards you..You know why?

I know exactly why you hate me, because I'm able to ridicule and contradict every single bit of nonsense you post with ease. The fact remains that the Bosnian government has issued passports to terrorists involved in the 9-11 attacks, this is a well established fact. You simply aren't able to refute this.
I can post numerous links that attest to this fact, but the CIA has already done this for me. I'm sure most on this board are already aware of this. It isn't my responsibility to compensate for your ignorance of these events.

You can continue to post your pathetic retorts, and I'll continue to demolish every argument you make with ease. You provide comic relief here, nothing more.

[RBIH_Troop]

I know exactly why you hate me, because I'm able to ridicule and contradict every single bit of nonsense you post with ease. The fact remains that the Bosnian government has issued passports to terrorists involved in the 9-11 attacks, this is a well established fact. You simply aren't able to refute this.
I can post numerous links that attest to this fact, but the CIA has already done this for me. I'm sure most on this board are already aware of this. It isn't my responsibility to compensate for your ignorance of these events.

You can continue to post your pathetic retorts, and I'll continue to demolish every argument you make with ease. You provide comic relief here, nothing more.

No I actually fell sad for you for having that brain cancer or what ever is killing ur 0.1X0.1 brain..Like I said I wanna see Bin ****en laden on my countries passport...lol thats funny ****! You do realize that you can make fake passports like mafia and other ppl do...Yea...Bin Laden has a bosnian passport just like REpublika Srpska has there own passport which doesn't exist..

[Frank Discussion]

[quote="RBIH_Troop"

You honestly are a true top of the line Nazi, Terrorist, idiot, retard, moron, ****, stupid uneducated f***, go f*** kill yourself no one would miss you trust me, not even your close family u lil ****!![/quote]

Having a little temper tantrum at the keyboard?

Ask Mommy to bring you a glass of warm milk, it'll help settle you down.

There............ feel better now?

Meanwhile, here is an excerpt from "Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily Volume XXII, No. 185 Wednesday, November 24, 2004", I've posted the excerpt out of concern for brevity. Will post the entire link if requested.

(begin quote)

Al-Qaida Leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s Bosnian Links Emerging

Exclusive. Analysis. With input from GIS Station Sarajevo. Very reliable sources within the Islamist community in Bosnia-Herzegovina told GIS/Defense & Foreign Affairs on November 22, 2004, that evidence was beginning to emerge of very significant links between senior al-Qaida leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — the ostensible “master mind” of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States — and Islamist groups in Bosnia. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was detained by US officials in March 2003, and remains in US custody.

See Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily, September 17, 2003: Bosnian Official Links With Terrorism, Including 9/11, Become Increasingly Apparent as Clinton, Clark Attempt to Justify Support of Bosnian Militants.

The sources, who have been extremely reliable in the past, produced definitive evidence that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was integrally linked into the Bosnia al-Qaida terrorist logistical hub. Despite the long chain of evidence which has already emerged over the past three years, the European Union’s appointed ruler of Bosnia-Herzegovina, Paddy Ashdown, has consistently claimed that there was no evidence of terrorist basing or involvement in Bosnia, and has supported the Islamist groups which were, in fact, involved with terrorist support activities.

The GIS sources had documentary evidence that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the son of Salem, was born October 22, 1966, in Kuwait. He was in Bosnia as first member of El-Mudzahid unit and then, since 1996, became a member of Egyptian Islamist radical operations. He also obtained Bosnian citizenship and a Bosnian passport under the Government of the late Alija Izetbegovic. By a decision of Sarajevo Police No. 09/2-204-108 dated April 30, 1994, Khaled obtain his Bosnian citizenship certificate and immediately after that his Bosnian passport. This absolutely tied Khalid Sheikh Mohammed into the Bosnian terrorist network; Osama bin Laden and the two al-Zawahiri brothers also obtained their Bosnian credentials in similar ways.

(end quote)

[RBIH_Troop]

You can write me books and articles and novels and 7 million page reports because unlike your retarded ass I don't believe in bull**** I hear from some stupid idiot media...

Once I see Bin Laden on the Bosnian passport I will agree with you and your totally 100% right but till then I don't believe that crap..Sure Bin laden in BOsnia, a nation in europe, bin laden crossed serbia, greece turkey just to go to bosnia to get a passport..use some common sense, please. Hes in some sh** hole in Pakistan or afghanistan eating rice or what ever he does...lol thats awesome BOSNIA! one word WOW! Are you a Serb? You seem like one, your very anti croatian, bosnian, albanian, muslim.

[RSK]

CAG:

So, he's also right in saying that SEMITIC Arabs and TURANIC Turkmen are part of the WHITE race? How does that work?

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Lokos

Come on! I am a bit tired with such talks! Guys, please, cool down, don ´t go too far! White race, black race, Otomans, chetniks ... I don´t know why I am surprised after all of my experiences with your nations but still ...

I follow administrator post in locked topic in History section:


Topics like this are pointless. "We want to show that your war crimes are as bad as ours" This is a truly sad statement because it says that both sides are slaughtering each other in large numbers and have been for a very long time. Until both sides can forgive each other and move on, it'll keep going and going. People have sent me PM's and emails about getting involved in these Serb vs. Bosnian arguments and I have no interest because there's no point. As long as the hate keeps going, it'll never end and there's no solution. Whether this group killed that group in Srebrenica or anywhere else doesn't really matter. It's just another small point on a big picture of mass killings similar to the Israel vs. Palestinians conflict. Someone has to be the first to put down the sword and not pick it up again.

We, Czechs, have saying: "The more wise ppl step back" and that is related to the pointless discussions. Try to do it at least on this forum. Many times I´ve asked constructive questions but no answer. I think I would keep back of anything related to the Balkan.

Regards,
CAG 147


Hehehe!

So CAG you can post how Goldman is 100% correct in his assumption that Albanians are decentencts of Illirians but when confronted by Lokos to explain yourself you back away!? Saying you're tired and "act" wise by stepping back!?

That was not a "tactical retreat" there CAG! You got ambushed!

Next!

[2RHPZ]

CAG:

So, he's also right in saying that SEMITIC Arabs and TURANIC Turkmen are part of the WHITE race? How does that work?

...

Lokos

Come on! I am a bit tired with such talks! Guys, please, cool down, don ´t go too far! White race, black race, Otomans, chetniks ... I don´t know why I am surprised after all of my experiences with your nations but still ...

I follow administrator post in locked topic in History section:


Topics like this are pointless. "We want to show that your war crimes are as bad as ours" This is a truly sad statement because it says that both sides are slaughtering each other in large numbers and have been for a very long time. Until both sides can forgive each other and move on, it'll keep going and going. People have sent me PM's and emails about getting involved in these Serb vs. Bosnian arguments and I have no interest because there's no point. As long as the hate keeps going, it'll never end and there's no solution. Whether this group killed that group in Srebrenica or anywhere else doesn't really matter. It's just another small point on a big picture of mass killings similar to the Israel vs. Palestinians conflict. Someone has to be the first to put down the sword and not pick it up again.

We, Czechs, have saying: "The more wise ppl step back" and that is related to the pointless discussions. Try to do it at least on this forum. Many times I´ve asked constructive questions but no answer. I think I would keep back of anything related to the Balkan.

Regards,
CAG 147


Hehehe!

So CAG you can post how Goldman is 100% correct in his assumption that Albanians are decentencts of Illirians but when confronted by Lokos to explain yourself you back away!? Saying you're tired and "act" wise by stepping back!?

That was not a "tactical retreat" there CAG! You got ambushed!

Next!

YOu guys are crazy ... I LOL when reading all your unprofessional BS about this topic. :lol:

[BHM]

OMG you know how much I hate you, no word or anything in this world would descibe my hate towards you..You know why?

I know exactly why you hate me, because I'm able to ridicule and contradict every single bit of nonsense you post with ease. The fact remains that the Bosnian government has issued passports to terrorists involved in the 9-11 attacks, this is a well established fact. You simply aren't able to refute this.
I can post numerous links that attest to this fact, but the CIA has already done this for me. I'm sure most on this board are already aware of this. It isn't my responsibility to compensate for your ignorance of these events.

You can continue to post your pathetic retorts, and I'll continue to demolish every argument you make with ease. You provide comic relief here, nothing more.

OK bosnia is "fundamentalist" we issue our passport (wich is worth **** you need visa for all countries excluding Croatia, Serbia, and turkey), to terrorists to "help" them destroy Europ and west.......

How do you explain than French, German, Italian, Spanish even US passport in the hand of terrorists?
Fundamentalist US goverment helping Al-Qaida?

[Frank Discussion]

OK bosnia is "fundamentalist" we issue our passport (wich is worth **** you need visa for all countries excluding Croatia, Serbia, and turkey), to terrorists to "help" them destroy Europ and west.......

How do you explain than French, German, Italian, Spanish even US passport in the hand of terrorists?
Fundamentalist US goverment helping Al-Qaida?

I don't believe Bosnia is "fundamentalist", I believe that in 1993 when the situation was extremely tough for the Bosnian Armed Forces, they pretty much took help from whomever offered. If I was in their situation I'd react the same way. This was simply opportunism, nothing more. Of course now in the post 9-11 world things look far different then they did in 1993.

[RBIH_Troop]

I don't believe Bosnia is "fundamentalist", I believe that in 1993 when the situation was extremely tough for the Bosnian Armed Forces, they pretty much took help from whomever offered. If I was in their situation I'd react the same way. This was simply opportunism, nothing more. Of course now in the post 9-11 world things look far different then they did in 1993.

Well okay, then say it like that we took aid from pretty much anybody so we can survive every one would do the same. This topic is boring....