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Sayeret
04-18-2005, 12:03 AM
Amazing story of how a Green Beret base was overrun by NVA tanks.

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Vietnam/7-ff/Ch6.htm
Lifeinasmallbox
04-18-2005, 12:46 AM
i think they made this a story on the Military Channel....like "Untold Stories" or something but i think it was a bunch of SEALS that got over run
Sayeret
04-18-2005, 12:56 AM
No it was Green Berets, I actually saw the show prior to posting this topic.
PhillyMobster
04-18-2005, 01:01 AM
Thanks Sayeret, good link. :P
11F5S
04-19-2005, 08:51 AM
I noticed an error in the article.
At the team house Tirach found Sfc. Michael W. Craig, Willoughby's team sergeant, Sergeant Thompson, Sergeant Burke, and about fifty CIDG and mobile strike force soldiers.

A-101's Team Sergeant was SFC William T Craig not Michael W. Craig. Goes to show that even CMIH doesn't always get the facts straight.




i think they made this a story on the Military Channel....like "Untold Stories" or something but i think it was a bunch of SEALS that got over run

You need to get out of the box and get a breath of fresh air. :P
dacanadianbomb
04-19-2005, 11:39 AM
Amazing story, really great read, eventhough it was a bad event.Thats Schungel guy sounds like one tough taker. Built like a brick sh*thouse.
What exactly does one categorize as a misfire with a LAW ?
There seem to be a lot of references to LAW's misfiring, is that failure to explode when impacting target, or failure to leave the tube?
Virus
04-19-2005, 12:06 PM
On the show, they said that a bunch never even fired, and a couple that did did nothing to the tank, or just bounced off and exploded up in the air.. Pretty unfortunate really. Could have saved some of those guys lives if the LAWs had been working properly. Thanks for that heads of 11f5s too, i went over to my moms and watched it right after i saw your post :D
11F5S
04-19-2005, 01:32 PM
What exactly does one categorize as a misfire with a LAW ?
There seem to be a lot of references to LAW's misfiring, is that failure to explode when impacting target, or failure to leave the tube?

A failure to ignite the propellant in the rocket motor. Dampness was usually the culperit.


Thanks for that heads of 11f5s too, i went over to my moms and watched it right after i saw your post :D

You're welcome.....I didn't get to see it as I don't get the Military Channel on my cable. :(
MEGR
04-19-2005, 06:52 PM
Anyone read Night of the Silver Stars? Thoughts?
pathfinder82
04-20-2005, 03:54 AM
The glory days of the A-teams, Im proud to say dear old dad was a beret.
dacanadianbomb
04-20-2005, 08:01 AM
If i read correctly , the LAW was designed in the 60's, so it was the first time it was used in battle in such a continuously humid climate ?

11F5S, you could probably answer this one, What things did soldiers do other than store them dry, to keep the dampness out while out battling?
Plastik bags, duct tape ?
Did later versions specifically attack this problem ?
2RHPZ
04-20-2005, 08:10 AM
Good read, thanx for posting ...
Delta Niner
04-20-2005, 10:42 PM
Amazing story of how a Green Beret base was overrun by NVA tanks.

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Vietnam/7-ff/Ch6.htm

it was a good read, thanks :)
Delta Niner
04-20-2005, 10:49 PM
Amazing story of how a Green Beret base was overrun by NVA tanks.

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/Vietnam/7-ff/Ch6.htm

it was a good read, thanks :)

Mods please delete the double post thanks
11F5S
04-21-2005, 09:41 AM
The glory days of the A-teams, Im proud to say dear old dad was a beret.

I guess that woud make you a fuzzball off the old beret :P
Lifeinasmallbox
04-21-2005, 01:05 PM
i think they made this a story on the Military Channel....like "Untold Stories" or something but i think it was a bunch of SEALS that got over run

You need to get out of the box and get a breath of fresh air. :P






am i wrong ? or are you saying that i stated the obvious ? p-)
11F5S
04-21-2005, 01:54 PM
i think they made this a story on the Military Channel....like "Untold Stories" or something but i think it was a bunch of SEALS that got over run

You need to get out of the box and get a breath of fresh air. :P






am i wrong ? or are you saying that i stated the obvious ? p-)

I'm was saying you need to get more oxygen to your brain cells. There weren't any SEALs at Long Vei...it was a Special Forces A-Camp (A-101, 5th SFG).

As far as I know the Military Channel doesn't do fiction.
Lifeinasmallbox
04-21-2005, 10:06 PM
i think they made this a story on the Military Channel....like "Untold Stories" or something but i think it was a bunch of SEALS that got over run

You need to get out of the box and get a breath of fresh air. :P






am i wrong ? or are you saying that i stated the obvious ? p-)

I'm was saying you need to get more oxygen to your brain cells. There weren't any SEALs at Long Vei...it was a Special Forces A-Camp (A-101, 5th SFG).

As far as I know the Military Channel doesn't do fiction.


i c....well i wasnt sure thats why i was questioning myself...thanx though :D
Sloppy Joe2
04-21-2005, 11:22 PM
wasnt there nva tanks at hue city during tet as well? i thought i heard something about that might be mistaken :)
M1A2U2
04-22-2005, 03:30 AM
The three men eased back into the bunker as a voice called out in English from upstairs.

"We want to speak to your captain. Is he still there?"

Fragos replied defiantly, "Yes!"

"Have you got a weapon?"

"Yep!"

"Do you have ammo?"

"I've got plenty for you!"

All three fired their Ml6's up the stairwell.
classic rofl rofl
PrincessRAR
04-22-2005, 07:01 PM
Everyone knows the real victories in Nam were fought by the ANZACS, i mean how many countless times did we save your arses..

p-)

All you needed in this situation would have been half a coy to fight the enemy, and half a coy to extract the GB's. Then a few medics to patch up broken egos and the likes ;)

I still love you 11F5S :hug:
MEGR
04-22-2005, 07:16 PM
wasnt there nva tanks at hue city during tet as well? i thought i heard something about that might be mistaken :)

According to "The Siege at Hue" NVA/VC forces never used any armor (at least to the author's knowledge) during the Hue siege.

Another instance of armor being used by the NVA was during the siege of an SF camp at Ben Het. Luckily, the defenders were told ahead of time about the siege and defeated the armored advance.
Sloppy Joe2
04-23-2005, 12:42 AM
wasnt there nva tanks at hue city during tet as well? i thought i heard something about that might be mistaken :)

According to "The Siege at Hue" NVA/VC forces never used any armor (at least to the author's knowledge) during the Hue siege.

Another instance of armor being used by the NVA was during the siege of an SF camp at Ben Het. Luckily, the defenders were told ahead of time about the siege and defeated the armored advance. well my mistake :D