View Full Version : Woman aims to make Para history
Oddball
04-19-2005, 04:34 PM
Woman aims to make Para history
Jenny Hands wants to break into the all-male Para ranks
A 23-year-old logistics expert is attempting to become the first female member of the Parachute Regiment.
Lieutenant Jenny Hands, currently based in Colchester, Essex, must complete the notorious P Company training course before receiving the coveted red beret.
http://newswww.bbc.net.uk/1/hi/uk/4455213.stm
Uhlan
04-19-2005, 04:51 PM
She will get mashed in the "milling".
kayaker
04-19-2005, 05:32 PM
Good on her! Ive always wondered why 100.000 men can pass into the regiment any woman who attempted it cant...
Trident-za
04-19-2005, 05:41 PM
Good luck to her! If the UK Para course is anything like what we had here, I have my doubts as to whether its possible, but if she makes it, good for her! ;)
moughoun
04-19-2005, 05:53 PM
didn't a women make it through the all arms commando course.....Pip tattersal or something?
oldsoak
04-19-2005, 05:57 PM
Two things :-
If she does what every other bugg*r has to do - well and good. She deserves the beret. If she gets put through for PC reasons, then she wants to looking for another job soon because the paras dont wear fools gladly. I'm not confident that she wont get pulled through.
Two :- funny how both the RM and the Para female contenders are officers. What, no other female in the ranks has an ambition ? No female privates or lance jacks having a bash ? I see lots of women on staffy's and corporals courses .FUNNY THAT.
PrincessRAR
04-19-2005, 05:59 PM
yeah, fair enough a woman can pass - but that is it - it is a known fact that women cant survive in the field.
I think its a waste of time but im old school ....
As women do not go out on missions with the men I wonder what the point is, government policy still keeps women out of front line units.
Erik2a4
04-19-2005, 06:44 PM
But is she hot?
California Joe
04-19-2005, 06:47 PM
A very valid point Erik. Can't have a poster girl if she doesn't look the part.
If there are ever women SEALs it'll be my 12 year old daughter. Jesus she's hard as nails. p-)
Aerosoul
04-19-2005, 06:51 PM
Demi Moore beat you to it Cali Joe! GI Jane rocks!
Oddball
04-19-2005, 07:02 PM
Can't find anything online so here's a scan from today's Daily Mail
http://img259.echo.cx/img259/1088/jenny3fb.jpg
Australian_Pride
04-19-2005, 07:37 PM
Can't find anything online so here's a scan from today's Daily Mail
http://img259.echo.cx/img259/1088/jenny3fb.jpg
why does that photo show her wearing the red beret already?
EsoognomEhT
04-19-2005, 07:44 PM
Are you kidding shes ****ing dog ugly?
And, er isnt it Maroon. Not red? O.o
Gringo
04-20-2005, 01:39 AM
Not this again!
First off a women did not finish the all arms commando course. The best one only got halfway through before jacking it in.
btw they only do this for political reasons.
pathfinder82
04-20-2005, 02:06 AM
She will get mashed in the "milling".
Seriously, are they gonna put a female in the ring during "milling" or is she gonna get whooped by some dude.
hughdotoh
04-20-2005, 02:18 AM
Not this again!
First off a women did not finish the all arms commando course. The best one only got halfway through before jacking it in.
btw they only do this for political reasons.
Hogwash PC crowd is always at it, making the armed froces politically correct but militarily weak.
If this gets any more, the Russians would overrun Europe without ever leaving Russia.
Resurrection
04-20-2005, 02:23 AM
Please don't tell me that they require women to shave their heads too. :|
kayaker
04-20-2005, 06:18 AM
Wouldnt that be equal treatment?
oldsoak
04-20-2005, 06:37 AM
She certainly looks the type to go milling, do the log and stretcher races and run until your puds drop - and then do it again. :roll: . Theres a lot of good lads that dont make the paras btw but who are otherwise very good soldiers - and I'll bet they had a rougher ride than she will get. In fact , I'll wager the DS will get boll*cked if they treat her the same as some squaddie trying to have a go at getting in.
Women in the British armed forces are still not serving in the frontline infantry units like the Paras and Marines but are often in armored or artillery units on the frontline.
Erik2a4
04-20-2005, 07:31 AM
I'd give her an eight on the "good looks" scale...
...after eight beers, she'd look good.
oldsoak
04-20-2005, 07:41 AM
I'd give her an eight on the "good looks" scale...
...after eight beers, she'd look good.
...you tart! hold out for ten at least...
Gringo
04-20-2005, 09:30 AM
Women in the British armed forces are still not serving in the frontline infantry units like the Paras and Marines but are often in armored or artillery units on the frontline.
As far as I'm aware, they don't have women in the Royal Armoured Corps. The only combat arms service in the army that will allow women are the Artillery, like you said.
2RHPZ
04-20-2005, 09:34 AM
I remember when I discussed topic - female Para - with a British major (1 Para) in 1997 in Bosnia he told me: "Well, that won´t be a woman then, that would be bloke with **** and pus..."
EsoognomEhT
04-20-2005, 10:26 AM
Can women crew tanks? At present it is not possible for women to join either the Infantry or RAC. However, many women serve on attachment to Infantry battalions and RAC regiments in a variety of support and administrative roles. Women are able to join the combat arms of some TA/Yeomanry regiments.
Uncle Sam
04-20-2005, 10:46 AM
I see the sequel to G.I. Jane. G.I. Jane II The Milling
king_nothing100
04-20-2005, 11:56 AM
I hope she has to do the same stuff as the men and not the watered down training with the more time allowed etc.
Sabre
04-20-2005, 12:06 PM
didn't a women make it through the all arms commando course.....Pip tattersal or something?
Yeah, I was down in Lympstone when she was having her second go. Was in a room down the corridoor from her (don't ask ;) )
She had to pull off the during the 'digging-in' phase. She did her back in apparently. All I can say is that she didn't look too happy at the time.
But I had thought she got through the next time. I might be wrong, but I'm sure she did eventually get through it.
I honestly don't get why. There is no point in letting someone take up a place on the course who is never going to serve along side the rest of the recruits. It's pointless. Until the government changes the policy (ie never) this will remain a pointless PR exercise.
kayaker
04-20-2005, 12:18 PM
Yes she did make it the third time. I know because i read it in "Good Housewifes". (maternal mag dont ask ;) )
Her biggest problems was the 6ft wall. During the time in the ACF Ive never seen ONE girl completing that brick by hereself. Must be hard with those beautiful lipid filled glands...
<Gypsum Fantastic>
04-20-2005, 01:25 PM
Yes she did make it the third time. I know because i read it in "Good Housewifes". (maternal mag dont ask ;) )
Her biggest problems was the 6ft wall. During the time in the ACF Ive never seen ONE girl completing that brick by hereself. Must be hard with those beautiful lipid filled glands...
They never use the door... :roll:
Name that show!
EsoognomEhT
04-20-2005, 01:27 PM
ze acf?
btw, re: why is she wearing the beret already - I believe those attatched to 16aa bde wear them anyway? Might be wrong
kayaker
04-20-2005, 02:09 PM
Doesnt look the colour or the cap badge. Does MP wear red berets?
EsoognomEhT
04-20-2005, 02:10 PM
it wont be the cap badge, shes RLC.
kayaker
04-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Ah the red lipstck corps :P Seriously: they do an excellent job.
Sabre
04-20-2005, 03:37 PM
Yes she did make it the third time. I know because i read it in "Good Housewifes". (maternal mag dont ask ;) )
Her biggest problems was the 6ft wall. During the time in the ACF Ive never seen ONE girl completing that brick by hereself. Must be hard with those beautiful lipid filled glands...
They never use the door... :roll:
Name that show!
Le Simpsons, peut etre? The one where Marge joins the Police force?
king_nothing100
04-22-2005, 11:20 AM
Hmm, ok, so she has already packed it in.
kayaker
04-22-2005, 12:20 PM
where did you find the news? How long was she into the course?
king_nothing100
04-22-2005, 12:54 PM
http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn/Forums/viewtopic/t=15606/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=30.html
king_nothing100
04-22-2005, 12:55 PM
Double post, DIE :bash:
RGRBOX
04-22-2005, 12:59 PM
As women do not go out on missions with the men I wonder what the point is, government policy still keeps women out of front line units.
Good point...
RGRBOX
04-22-2005, 01:02 PM
Not this again!
First off a women did not finish the all arms commando course. The best one only got halfway through before jacking it in.
btw they only do this for political reasons.
Sounds about right.. next she'll be on Big Brother...
kayaker
04-22-2005, 01:50 PM
We must not forget women are weaker than men. Bodies less adapted. Women are naturally disadvantaged become of the following (not conclusive)
10% more body fat
20% less caridac output
Extra stress added of the menstrual cycle.
Less bone density (couple of grams per 10cm3)
less muscle mass
<Gypsum Fantastic>
04-22-2005, 01:58 PM
Yes she did make it the third time. I know because i read it in "Good Housewifes". (maternal mag dont ask ;) )
Her biggest problems was the 6ft wall. During the time in the ACF Ive never seen ONE girl completing that brick by hereself. Must be hard with those beautiful lipid filled glands...
They never use the door... :roll:
Name that show!
Le Simpsons, peut etre? The one where Marge joins the Police force?
A shiney penny for you effort...
Sabre
04-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Why thank you, good sir!
Oddball
04-23-2005, 05:51 AM
Broken leg ends woman's Para bid
Lt Hands would have been Britain's first female Para
A soldier's attempt to be the first female member of the Parachute Regiment ended in agony when she broke her leg.
Lieutenant Jenny Hands, 23, of Birmingham, suffered two fractures to her right leg during the entry course.
The 5ft 3in fitness fanatic had been impressing instructors at Catterick, Yorkshire, before she was hurt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4475439.stm
RGRBOX
04-23-2005, 01:45 PM
Broken leg ends woman's Para bid
Lt Hands would have been Britain's first female Para
A soldier's attempt to be the first female member of the Parachute Regiment ended in agony when she broke her leg.
Lieutenant Jenny Hands, 23, of Birmingham, suffered two fractures to her right leg during the entry course.
The 5ft 3in fitness fanatic had been impressing instructors at Catterick, Yorkshire, before she was hurt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4475439.stm
She'll been in Playboy next month showing off her ass.
fantassin
04-23-2005, 03:17 PM
Lt Hands, who serves in the Royal Logistics Corps' 13 Air Assault Support Regiment in Colchester, Essex, said she intends to take the course again.
RGRBOX
04-24-2005, 12:23 PM
Lt Hands, who serves in the Royal Logistics Corps' 13 Air Assault Support Regiment in Colchester, Essex, said she intends to take the course again.
Will that be before or after she gets on Parkinson??
rister
04-24-2005, 01:42 PM
Read the book "ONE UP" A woman in action with the S.A.S
Sarah Ford
A first-person account of one woman's experiences in the SAS. The 14 Intelligence Company was the cover name adopted by a secretive unit set up by the SAS during the early 1970s to conduct surveillance operations in Northern Ireland. Using techniques developed by the SAS and military intelligence over the years, they succeeded in taking the war to the IRA with devastating effect over the next 20 years. This unit recruits and trains women on a basis of equality with men. Sarah Ford describes the rigorous physical and psychological training she underwent, the missions she went on and what it was like being a young woman in the most macho world of all.
RGRBOX
04-24-2005, 03:58 PM
Read the book "ONE UP" A woman in action with the S.A.S
Sarah Ford
A first-person account of one woman's experiences in the SAS. The 14 Intelligence Company was the cover name adopted by a secretive unit set up by the SAS during the early 1970s to conduct surveillance operations in Northern Ireland. Using techniques developed by the SAS and military intelligence over the years, they succeeded in taking the war to the IRA with devastating effect over the next 20 years. This unit recruits and trains women on a basis of equality with men. Sarah Ford describes the rigorous physical and psychological training she underwent, the missions she went on and what it was like being a young woman in the most macho world of all.
I heard about this story. She served in Norther Ireland. But she wasn't SAS Badged. Nor was she in the Para Rgt.
(_SPETSNAZ_)
04-24-2005, 09:48 PM
Hopefully she makes it...
kayaker
04-25-2005, 08:22 AM
talk about 14 Coy, anotehr excellent book is "the operators" a non-macho book about an officer serving for a year with the unit in his own words. Ill check out the other book at my local lib
Cheers
fantassin
04-25-2005, 09:04 AM
Apparently, some ex-14 Int women got the right to wear the SAS beret and Winged dagger.
I remember seeing a picture of a women in DPM with a SAS sand beret and badge in "Mars & Minerva" the Brit SF magazine in the late 90s.
The caption was "one of ours"...a Brit SF member told me they were former 14 Int.
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