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EvanL
12-02-2003, 03:29 PM
http://www.canada.com/components/printstory/printstory.asp?id=200A9450-51B6-417D-A3C4-5867BB75A848

Calgary Herald


Sunday, November 30, 2003

For a country with a proud past when it comes to elite special forces, Canada certainly acts strangely when it comes to recognizing its crack commando unit, JTF2.

This year, following much public clamour to release information about JTF2's accomplishments in Afghanistan, the Department of Defence released a series of murky photocopies of pictures of JTF2 in action.

One showed several of the commandos attending church. The Australians, by comparison, released 30 colour photos of its special forces in action. And the Americans are not shy about boasting of their Navy Seals and Delta Force, nor the Brits their SAS.

So, it was refreshing to see David Pratt, chairman of the Commons defence committee, recently suggest the name of Canada's top military strike force be changed to better reflect its role as an elite commando squad. JTF2, after all, sounds a bit like a high performance motor oil. JTF2 commanders rejected Pratt's suggestions for a name change, citing 10 years of history and tradition.

If they want to keep the moniker, we won't argue. They've earned the right. But give Pratt, a Liberal, credit for at least wanting to take JTF2 out of the shadows. As special forces assume a greater role in the global war against terrorism, the veil of secrecy around JTF2 is slowly being peeled back. Secrecy is needed for operational security, but why not celebrate that we have one of the best commando units in the world?

Canadian soldiers are respected internationally for their professionalism, education and training. The Liberals, it appears, would rather have the world think of us as going to trouble spots and doling out group hugs. This, from a country that once had the First Special Service Force, better known as the Devil's Brigade, a joint U.S.-Canadian commando unit that operated with distinction during the Second World War.

© Copyright 2003 Calgary Herald

Armour recon
12-02-2003, 03:52 PM
Like the legion, "never celebrate victories, but losses"

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-02-2003, 04:35 PM
I think being silent about JTF2 has paid off in some ways, I bet al-queda didnt know these guys existed until they woke up and they were on there doorstep.

Double Tap
12-02-2003, 05:27 PM
the question is where are these new pictures?

wholagun
12-02-2003, 07:36 PM
HHMMM I have a good idea for a Canadian new special forces name. Given the fact that US call their special forces seals we can call ours.....
The Beavers.
It'd be great just imagine "the beavers are on thier way" "send in the beavers". The name itself would strike fear into the eyes, ears and mind of the enemy. If you don't think so - have you ever seen a beaver, **** those things are vicious, they got huge as teeth that can just about chop down any size tree and can fight like mother f***ers, one swing of the tail and you'll be sorry.

After all the beaver is our national animal.

Well thats just my silly two cents. p-)

California Joe
12-02-2003, 07:38 PM
I'm behind the Beavers. ;)

Ratamacue
12-02-2003, 07:38 PM
Penguins. :P

wholagun
12-02-2003, 07:48 PM
I'm behind the Beavers. ;)

I knew it'd be an instant hit.. YES. woot


Penguins.

Hey I like that too. Maybe we can change the name of our Artic unit to the Penguins. Or we can change the name of another rapid reaction unit, or hell create a new one and call them the Penguins. Oh that would be killer. :)

Marxist203
12-02-2003, 07:49 PM
Canadian forces officers would be like "Send in...B.E.A.V.E.R.S.!" and his men would be all like ":0"

haha

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-02-2003, 08:20 PM
When you tell the regular infantry on the front line that "Were sending in the beavers" they all think that they'd be getting laid, until some crazy special forces guys show up n whip ass. It would be shock and awe that some al-queda forces got stomped by the "beavers", hell I dont even think they'd know what a beaver is. It would make a good nickname for a sea/land force.

wholagun
12-02-2003, 08:33 PM
Ah **** watch...they'll go with the Beavers and won't even give me credit for it. meh. Now if someone could figure out something each letter of BEAVERS could stand for..that'd be even better.


When you tell the regular infantry on the front line that "Were sending in the beavers" they all think that they'd be getting laid, until some crazy special forces guys show up n whip ass. LOL oh thats good.

Problem with spec forces name Beavers is your making it too easy to make jokes. Our boys could be called the horny Eager Beavers.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
12-02-2003, 09:25 PM
No dude the "Eager Beavers" are the fresh recruits waiting to see action rofl

wholagun
12-02-2003, 09:30 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl

HOLY CRAP THATS FUNNY AS HELL..


I can't stop laughing...

DE_Six
12-02-2003, 11:27 PM
I think some of the said pictures are to be found in David Pugliese's new book, "Shadow Wars". I just picked it up and it has about a dozen pics of JTF2 operators in Afghanistan and on training exercises.

Some of them show the new CQB outfit, like those mysterious-looking shin pads. They're hockey(!) pads with pouches on the sides, but I have no idea what they contain. There are also pics of the new CQB modular armor. It has Velcro/snap grid panels. For patrol, they seem to use Arktis vests. They also have Knight RAS-equipped C8s. At least one pic shows them using Humvees in Afghanistan (like the PPCLI did) and some of them have woodland BDUs and Goretex.

The book is pretty good, it has extensive material on JTF's role in Afghanistan, among other things. It also covers Iraq and the Moscow hostage rescue.