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Metak
04-20-2005, 05:17 AM
Here is article with photos:
http://seawar.boom.ru/WW2/Poland/wicher.html

Musashi
04-20-2005, 07:15 AM
Thank you for this article, however there is an error.
On 3 May 1940 Grom sank off Norway - a direct hit of just one bomb from a German diving bomber was enough to break her in halves
Grom was not sunk by a German diving bomber, but by Ju-88. She had survived numerous Ju-87s (dive bombers) attacks before.

LeMat
04-20-2005, 05:59 PM
Grom was sunk by accident. German planes were flying very high - to high to make succesfull attack but they dropped bombs and hit. It was lucky hit for germans and unlucky for Grom.

EDIT

Blyskawica was the fastest destroyer of WWII max speed was about 42,5 knots! Also 7x120mm guns (later 8x102 universal guns) and torpedo launchers made it very good ship.
Even after WWII photo of Blyskawica was used as advertisement in Samuel J. White & Co prospects.

You can see Blyskawica in Polish city Gdynia today.
http://www.trojmiasto.pl/ob.phtml?id_ob=73&bez=1

Musashi
04-20-2005, 06:26 PM
Grom was sunk by accident. German planes were flying very high - to high to make succesfull attack but they dropped bombs and hit. It was lucky hit for germans and unlucky for Grom.
True. The crew even did not try to execute a defensive maneuver thinking the bomber was flying too high to hit the ship.

Blyskawica was the fastest destroyer of WWII max speed was about 42,5 knots!
Oh, it seems you haven't heard about French Le Terrible (http://www.geocities.com/swansondd443/r96.html) yet.

LeMat
04-21-2005, 02:28 PM
Oh, it seems you haven't heard about French Le Terrible (http://www.geocities.com/swansondd443/r96.html) yet.

Reverse speed doesn't count p-)

M4ko
04-21-2005, 03:59 PM
Grom was sunk by accident. German planes were flying very high - to high to make succesfull attack but they dropped bombs and hit. It was lucky hit for germans and unlucky for Grom.

EDIT

Blyskawica was the fastest destroyer of WWII max speed was about 42,5 knots! Also 7x120mm guns (later 8x102 universal guns) and torpedo launchers made it very good ship.
Even after WWII photo of Blyskawica was used as advertisement in Samuel J. White & Co prospects.

You can see Blyskawica in Polish city Gdynia today.
http://www.trojmiasto.pl/ob.phtml?id_ob=73&bez=1


How is that lucky? ahaha They were trying to hit the ship and they did. Its luck that Poland as a country was established.

LeMat
04-21-2005, 04:12 PM
You can try to hit bottle from pistol at 200 meters. But if you hit that means that was lucky shot.
I wanted to say that these planes were attacking from very high ceiling and it was almost imposible to hit from that range so our ship wasn't prepared to attack. But they hit.

Drako
04-21-2005, 04:59 PM
How is that lucky? ahaha They were trying to hit the ship and they did. Its luck that Poland as a country was established.

You really know how to make me laugh M4ko :lol: