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Jeremiah
04-20-2005, 08:53 PM
Al-Reuters files this one under “Oddly Enough:” Man Accused of Blasphemy Shot Dead. (Hat tip: Jill.)


ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - A Pakistani man accused of desecrating the Koran was shot dead Wednesday after being chased by an angry crowd.

Ashiq Nabi, in his thirties, was accused of being disrespectful to Islam’s holy book and had been in hiding since Monday, a senior police official said.

“Today, a mob spotted him and shot him dead,” said Mazahar ul Haq, police chief of Nowshera town, about 100 km (62 miles) west of the capital, Islamabad.

Blasphemy, including desecrating the Koran, is a capital offence in deeply Islamic Pakistan and carries the death sentence, but convictions have always been turned down by high courts because of a lack of evidence.

Witnesses said the man was chased through fields and climbed a tree to get away from an angry crowd of up to 500 men. When he refused to come down, someone shot him dead, they said.


Oddly enough!

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Aerosoul
04-20-2005, 08:55 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45052&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

SeanAshi
04-20-2005, 10:36 PM
The other day in Gaza Hamas terrorist shot and killed a girl for sitting on the beach with a man. :roll:

Aerosoul
04-20-2005, 10:56 PM
The other day in Gaza Hamas terrorist shot and killed a girl for sitting on the beach with a man. :roll:

Geeze...the more I hear the more I don't understand.

SeanAshi
04-20-2005, 11:08 PM
It was like 12 hours before her wedding and the guy she was sitting with was her soon to be husband. A car load of Hamas terrorist stopped her car then cut lose their ak 47's. Basicaly Hamas called her a whore for sitting on the beach with the man.

Mailman
04-21-2005, 02:51 AM
Who said Islam wasnt a backwards monkey religion? rofl

Mailman

Uhlan
04-21-2005, 05:28 AM
Witnesses said the man was chased through fields and climbed a tree to get away from an angry crowd of up to 500 men. When he refused to come down, someone shot him dead, they said.

Hah hah fooled you, you'll never get me up this tree! Doh!

Blind mob rule, I am not sure these chumps are ready for democracy yet. they need to evolve a bit longer.

Weasel
04-21-2005, 06:21 AM
Who said Islam wasnt a backwards monkey religion? rofl

Mailman

Only racist little idiots would say so. :)

CMN
04-21-2005, 06:30 AM
Well its not exactly a progressive religion is it? But then, looking at the new and the old pope, neither is catholicism so, meh...

hughdotoh
04-21-2005, 07:38 AM
Well its not exactly a progressive religion is it? But then, looking at the new and the old pope, neither is catholicism so, meh...

The popes at the least persuade you to change your ways; they don't kill you if you don't agree with them. They only mutter about your soul getting cooked and you not having a spot on the pearly tableau when you die.

The Hamas and the Islamists will actually kill you just for being a christian or a westerner. THAT is the difference between the backward Islamists and the conservative Catholics. When you lump the two together, you're courting flamewar.

Bacilluspolymyxa
04-21-2005, 08:46 AM
The popes at the least persuade you to change your ways; they don't kill you if you don't agree with them.If the could they would. :P

hughdotoh
04-21-2005, 08:48 AM
The popes at the least persuade you to change your ways; they don't kill you if you don't agree with them.If the could they would. :P

Yep, bore you to death with their murmuring, or stare you down.

Legion
04-21-2005, 01:12 PM
Who said Islam wasnt a backwards monkey religion? rofl

Mailman

Only racist little idiots would say so. :)

Right! I see agents of a very progressive religion of tolerance that would execute a girl for sitting on a beach with a man.

Seriously, if that's not a backwards religion, what is?

oldsoak
04-21-2005, 01:42 PM
The problem is that the laws and tenets of Islam are being taken to the extremes by.... extremists. They are deliberately interpreted to justify or excuse bloodthirsty action. Any muslim could point out that the girl could not be punished without trial for a start. A clever Islamic judge would delay the trial until after the wedding and the case would come to nothing. These extremists were using the religion as an excuse to terrorise and are nothing more than common murderers.

Legion
04-21-2005, 01:55 PM
These extremists were using the religion as an excuse to terrorise and are nothing more than common murderers.

Seems to be a common thread through out history...

ex1cdo
04-21-2005, 02:39 PM
These extremists were using the religion as an excuse to terrorise and are nothing more than common murderers.

Seems to be a common thread through out history...

Unfortunately, not just Muslims.

After all, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition ;-)

Legion
04-21-2005, 02:45 PM
These extremists were using the religion as an excuse to terrorise and are nothing more than common murderers.

Seems to be a common thread through out history...

Unfortunately, not just Muslims.

After all, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition ;-)

That's really what I was referring to. Man has perpetrated all sorts of horrible atrocities in the name of religion of all faiths.

ex1cdo
04-21-2005, 02:52 PM
These extremists were using the religion as an excuse to terrorise and are nothing more than common murderers.

Seems to be a common thread through out history...

Unfortunately, not just Muslims.

After all, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition ;-)

That's really what I was referring to. Man has perpetrated all sorts of horrible atrocities in the name of religion of all faiths.

Exactly so.

Remember what was onthe belt buckle of German soldiers in WWI: "Gott mitt us" (forgive me if the spelling isn't accurate).

Any old excuse will do, it seems.

Drako
04-21-2005, 02:58 PM
Like I always say: it's the man who does evil, not the religion.

Legion
04-21-2005, 03:13 PM
Like I always say: it's the man who does evil, not the religion.

But man created religion. :|

Drako
04-21-2005, 03:27 PM
Like I always say: it's the man who does evil, not the religion.

But man created religion. :|

Religions weren't created to spread evil. Thus religions have nothing to do with man who does evil in their name. Ie. Christianism clearly states "do not kill". So I say it were inquisitors responsible for inquisition, not the religion they were claiming to obey as their acts had nothing to do with that religion. Islam isn't bad. Bad are people who interpret it in the wrong way, in the way which gives them power and control over the crowd.

Legion
04-21-2005, 03:38 PM
Like I always say: it's the man who does evil, not the religion.

But man created religion. :|

Religions weren't created to spread evil. Thus religions have nothing to do with man who does evil in their name. Ie. Christianism clearly states "do not kill". So I say it were inquisitors responsible for inquisition, not the religion they were claiming to obey as their acts had nothing to do with that religion. Islam isn't bad. Bad are people who interpret it in the wrong way, in the way which gives them power and control over the crowd.

The Tyranny and Tears of Religion (http://www.bobstace.com/documents/THE%20TYRANNY%20AND%20TEARS%20OF%20RELIGION.pdf#search='deaths%20caused%20by%20organized%20religion')

Pretty much sums it up.

PeterRJG
04-21-2005, 03:52 PM
Like I always say: it's the man who does evil, not the religion.

But man created religion. :|

Religions weren't created to spread evil. Thus religions have nothing to do with man who does evil in their name. Ie. Christianism clearly states "do not kill". So I say it were inquisitors responsible for inquisition, not the religion they were claiming to obey as their acts had nothing to do with that religion. Islam isn't bad. Bad are people who interpret it in the wrong way, in the way which gives them power and control over the crowd.

What a cop-out load of crap. Thanks for the laugh, mate.

rofl

Drako
04-21-2005, 04:02 PM
Like I always say: it's the man who does evil, not the religion.

But man created religion. :|

Religions weren't created to spread evil. Thus religions have nothing to do with man who does evil in their name. Ie. Christianism clearly states "do not kill". So I say it were inquisitors responsible for inquisition, not the religion they were claiming to obey as their acts had nothing to do with that religion. Islam isn't bad. Bad are people who interpret it in the wrong way, in the way which gives them power and control over the crowd.

What a cop-out load of crap. Thanks for the laugh, mate.

rofl

What an intelligent response. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, mate.

PeterRJG
04-21-2005, 04:42 PM
I coul easily give an intelligent response, but it'd probably go over your apologist head.

Your post was a cop-out and I'm sure you know that.

demotivater
04-21-2005, 05:47 PM
Unfortunately, not just Muslims.

After all, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition ;-)

The Spanish Inquisition wasn't in 2005 either.

Drako
04-21-2005, 09:43 PM
I coul easily give an intelligent response, but it'd probably go over your apologist head.

Your post was a cop-out and I'm sure you know that.

My post was based on logic. Do you blame your law when a cop commits a crime? Do you blame science when a scientist is an idiot? Do you blame your language when a linguist makes a grammar error?

Sometimes ignorance is worse than intollerance.

Kilgor
04-21-2005, 10:08 PM
Reminds me of the stone throwing scene in monty pythons "life of brian"

same stupid mentality.

oldsoak
04-22-2005, 06:20 AM
Religions give societies a moral code, and by and large they define a societies attitude to what is right and wrong - stealing is wrong, murder is wrong, being charitable is right etc etc. They emphasise what makes for a stable society. What we are facing is a sort of twisted attitude that says the more outrageous acts I commit on behalf of my belief, the more "righteous" I am. ( The more righteous I am, the greater I am - its self worship really - makeing yourself look great in your own eyes..) Hence going on the crusades was right, jihads are right etc- all mighty works of famous people. :roll: The life of the nice guys working in obscurity to relieve suffering, and leading by example doesnt attract these nutters. They are all fore enlightenment by enforcement rather than by education. Unfortunately it takes 10 good people to compensate for the work of one nutter.

Legion
04-22-2005, 08:37 AM
Religions give societies a moral code, and by and large they define a societies attitude to what is right and wrong - stealing is wrong, murder is wrong, being charitable is right etc etc.

I am an atheist, yet I am a moral person. I grew up and have lived my life outside of any church, mosque, or the like and I know the difference between right and wrong. For example, I don't need an edict from God to know it is wrong to murder another human being. You can have a moral compass without religion.
I do however respect people who have faith and follow the teachings of whatever God they choose, as long as they adhere to those values and are not the folks who go to church on Sunday morning and then go home and molest their children, or cheat on their wife, or in this case cap some chick for sitting on the beach with her fiancé.

ex1cdo
04-22-2005, 09:27 AM
Unfortunately, not just Muslims.

After all, nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition ;-)

The Spanish Inquisition wasn't in 2005 either.

Well, the ;-) was there for a reason. Allow me to introduce you to Monty Python.

demotivater
04-22-2005, 09:42 AM
I wasn't allowed to watch Monty Python. :lol:

Ayura
05-05-2005, 05:20 PM
Like I always say: it's the man who does evil, not the religion.

But man created religion. :|


I wonder who created Islam...? :)