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12-04-2003, 01:26 AM
SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- The Australian government has decided to take part in the controversial U.S. missile shield system, a move likely to earn the displeasure of key trading partner China.

The conservative Howard government announced the move Thursday, after indicating in February this year that it would examine possible involvement in the project.

"We believe that taking part in the U.S. program will serve our strategic interest, help us defend Australia and allow us to make an important contribution to global and regional security," Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said in a statement.

Canberra has not yet determined the form of Australia's participation but Australia's Ministry of Defence indicated on Thursday some likely areas of co-operation.

These included:

• Joint work to help detect missiles at the point of launch

• Acquisition of ship and ground-based sensors

• Science and technology research, development, testing and evaluation

"We think that with the proliferation of long-range missiles and trends towards proliferation of mass destruction warheads, it is a sensible decision for Australia to take," Defense Minister Robert Hill said according to The Associated Press.

Australia has been a steadfast ally of the Bush Administration on defense issues, including sending troops and equipment to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and backing the U.S. position in international forums such as the United Nations.

Support for the missile shield system -- also called Star Wars -- has been problematic, however, with China and close neighbor New Zealand expressing disquiet at the Australian stance.


Downer says missile defense participation serves Australia's strategic interest.
Beijing, in particular, fears the U.S. system is designed to negate the effectiveness of China somewhat modest nuclear arsenal and will be used to shield Taiwan and embolden pro-independence forces there.

China argues the system will undermine the global strategic balance which could lead to a new arms race.

Washington says the shield would protect against ballistic missiles that could soon be in the hands of "rogue states" like North Korea.

It wants allies such as Britain and Australia involved in the project, particularly for the use of satellite tracking stations in their countries.

Australia already operates a ballistic missile early warning ground station jointly with the United States at Pine Gap in the remote Australian Outback.

Meanwhile, in Japan reports said Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi is planning to introduce a missile defense system to protect against the threat posed by North Korea.

The Mainichi Shimbun daily newspaper said the government would hold a national security meeting soon for a formal decision on the defense system.

Japan and the United States have been jointly researching a missile defense system since North Korea shocked Tokyo by test firing a missile that flew of Japan's main island in 1998.

Such a defense system is a controversial issue in Japan due to its high cost and possible violation of Japan's pacifist constitution.

Though Japan is permitted to use force in self-defense, shooting down a missile aimed at another country is against the constitution, the Mainichi reported.

*Darth Voice* The Aussies have joined the dark side.

Shake n Bake
12-04-2003, 01:51 AM
You guys are a swell bunch...



http://www.ss-united-states.com/q23/xMAwelcB211.jpg

Shake n Bake
12-04-2003, 01:53 AM
I can't wait.....:hug:

http://www.news.com.au/common/printpage/0,6093,6760977,00.html

Ballistic
12-04-2003, 03:14 AM
Support for the missile shield system -- also called Star Wars -- has been problematic, however, with China and close neighbor New Zealand expressing disquiet at the Australian stance.

As if New Zealands stance means anything..... :P

The only thing I want for this is to be used right, not pre-emptively and only for defence never for attack.

As much as I like the United States, I think I would prefer Australia not to be a part of the US. :)

Seiyuuki
12-04-2003, 03:15 AM
Would the missile defense system even be a feasible offensive weapon?

wholagun
12-04-2003, 03:18 AM
Im curious what is the general Australian public opinion on this? Aussies some help here..

Ballistic
12-04-2003, 05:57 AM
Personally I dont have a problem with it. And I dont think the greater majority of the Australian public do either, ofcourse there is always that outspoken minorty who do not approve. To tell you the truth, it's not as if such a thing is going to have a detrimental impact on our or your everyday lives anyway. We are better off with it in place than without in place, especially when a threat like NK is hanging around. Thats my opinion anyway.

mocking_loudly_died
12-04-2003, 06:16 AM
USA / UK / AUS tag team, all you terrorist bitchs beware.

It always will be this way (until labor is voted back in). :D

I hate labor.

martinexsquaddie
12-04-2003, 06:29 AM
oh good grief I thought this relic of the cold war had been quitely allowed to die. who the hell is it ment to defend against anyway?
the iraqis :roll:

Roger Rabbit
12-04-2003, 06:34 AM
The Chinese.

*mumurs in quiet scary voice* Do you hear that? They're coming

mocking_loudly_died
12-04-2003, 06:40 AM
America should build cyborgs, flying tanks, mechs and other funky **** in anime.

duck
12-04-2003, 07:29 AM
But can the prez dish out turkey to cyborgs? Lost photo opportunity... ;)

Ballistic
12-04-2003, 07:31 AM
USA / UK / AUS tag team, all you terrorist bitchs beware.

It always will be this way (until labor is voted back in). :D

I hate labor.

Australian Labour Party ?? If so they dont have a chance with Latham in power, that guy is even more deluded and pathetic than Crean was, not too mention a danger to the US/Aus alliance with some of the comments he's made, he's also an absolute hyprocrite which was proven the other day. Once again, just my opinion... :)

oldsoak
12-04-2003, 07:46 AM
IMHO I dont think the Aussie missile shield has the PRC in mind, - the PRC would hardly want to got to war with a lucrative market thousands of miles away. NK ? possibly, but then the Chinese would not be too chuffed with the loss of a market and the possible deaths of lots of ethnic Chinese, so they may well intervene and stop any punch up from escalating. How long will it be before Indonesia becomes a fundamentalist state and aquires missile technology from Pakistan ? - or even build it themselves - simple V2 technology is over 50 years old and you dont need to be too precise with NBC warheads. I think the Aussies have their neighbour and where they might go and realise that as you need time to implement the system, they 'd rather start now than later.

Ballistic
12-04-2003, 09:01 AM
IMHO I dont think the Aussie missile shield has the PRC in mind, - the PRC would hardly want to got to war with a lucrative market thousands of miles away. NK ? possibly, but then the Chinese would not be too chuffed with the loss of a market and the possible deaths of lots of ethnic Chinese, so they may well intervene and stop any punch up from escalating. How long will it be before Indonesia becomes a fundamentalist state and aquires missile technology from Pakistan ? - or even build it themselves - simple V2 technology is over 50 years old and you dont need to be too precise with NBC warheads. I think the Aussies have their neighbour and where they might go and realise that as you need time to implement the system, they 'd rather start now than later.

True.

martinexsquaddie
12-04-2003, 11:01 AM
drop a nuke loaded scud in the middle of australia would anyone even notice?
or they could nuke queensland and improve the local genepool :roll:

Ballistic
12-04-2003, 06:43 PM
drop a nuke loaded scud in the middle of australia would anyone even notice?
or they could nuke queensland and improve the local genepool :roll:

Excuse me ? :bash:

I think the Australian public noticed after the Brits used our backyard as a nuclear test site and used our soldiers as bloody lab rats.

mocking_loudly_died
12-04-2003, 06:55 PM
There is nothing wrong with testing us Aussies with radiation....MMMMM....GRRRR.....MUST DESTROY HUMANITY!......whoa there seems to be some side effects.

Dang.

Ballistic
12-04-2003, 06:59 PM
There is nothing wrong with testing us Aussies with radiation....MMMMM....GRRRR.....MUST DESTROY HUMANITY!......whoa there seems to be some side effects.

Dang.

Hahaha......I think.