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BigBaribal
04-23-2005, 05:21 AM
A good example here that massive alien immigration is a good tool for the banksters and the industry to get cheap labor, without thinking about the fate of the native workers. And it's not even hard for the big industry to push this trend, as the leftists are in the same line, by thinking of gaining new voters in the same movement:
Keep the migrants coming
By DAVID WOODING
Whitehall Editor
INDUSTRY chief Sir Digby Jones warned last night that he was opposed to a limit on migrant numbers.
Sir Digby, head of employers’ organisation the Confederation of British Industry, said capping immigration would leave firms unable to find enough workers. .......
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005183015,00.html
BigBaribal
04-23-2005, 05:40 AM
Ah, ah, I didn't read that:
SHADOW Immigration Minister Humfrey Malins faced accusations of hypocrisy last night.
He told white families in his constituency at Woking, Surrey, that immigration should be limited — while writing in Urdu to immigrants recalling how he helped with visas and family visits.
Politicians are just great :roll: And people still believe that there is a real alternative between political parties.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/person/0,,-3322.html
Previous Occupation: Solicitor
Career History:
1983-92: MP, Croydon Northwest
1991-96: Acting metropolitan stipendiary magistrate
Recorder of the crown court
1993: Founder, Immigration Advisory Service
Back in the 1950's when the government of the day started to bring immigrant workers from overseas it was not because we were short of Labour, it was because it was cheap. The first ones that started this was London Transport who sent out recruiting teams to various former British Colonies. Now London Transport before the war were some of the highest paid workers in London, after the war to keep fares down the wage increases where kept to a minimum so that workers left in droves for better paid jobs, so rather than pay the going rate they brought in cheap labour from overseas. This policy soon spread to other ares like the Health Service and is still responsible for many of the ills that affect these bodies.
woofer
04-23-2005, 08:50 AM
I think the fact is that people in britain are not willing to work for the low wages because of the cost of our expected standard of living. We want the big tv and house looking nice. The average immigrant is happy with a roof and basic standards. Its there children that will want more out of life and feel like they are second class citizens I believe this is the case now with the familys of west indians that were bought over here to fill that void.
BigBaribal
04-23-2005, 09:32 AM
Wrong and really stupid tactic.
First-generation immigrants are ok to work hard, even in very poor jobs.
Second and even more third-generation immigrants don't want to work in these jobs anymore.
So, what do you get in the end? Lots of alien people who don't want to work in cheap labor, but are nevertheless very good welfare consumers.
And the necessity for the state to "import" even more newest "first-generation" immigrants for the cheap jobs the second and the third generations don't want to do anymore.
All this system can work as long as the economy goes well or not too bad. But imagine a big economical crisis and you get a ticket for a very unconfortable travel.
Yes, just imagine a "mexicanised" USA without the ressources anymore to pay the welfare and the "affirmative" tricks of the minorities: in a few weeks, you would get something which would make the Yugoslavian war look like a family holiday.
Violet Fashion by Mindy
04-23-2005, 10:37 AM
Thats were it's important to have a good minimum wage. Negates the need to have unskilled immigration intakes since the low income jobs are looked upon as a good stepping stone by early school leavers, uni students and or a single income family wanting to have a 2nd job.
2nd. Having a reletivly high minimum wage also means that companies are more then likely to offer training packages to these unskilled workers to enable them to take on a more highly skilled role which has a number of different tasks. So instead of a person just standing on a packaging machine all day. This person will be trained up to operate the forklift, overhead crane, become the First Aid Officer and still only be on the minimum wage.
And as a result of the above. It become even more crucial for people to do well at school for even the minimum wage positions thus encoureging further education, apprenticships, traineeships ect. Which results in a highly skilled and educated workforce.
Plus a higher minimum wage means there is more money to spend increasing consumer spending, which increases the demand for products in the manufacturing, clothing, entertainment and commodities economies.
Obviously this is only a theory. Australia at the moment is kind of taking this approach. Families to struggle on the minimum wage. Government makes it a little easier with cash bonuses for more children a famlies has, and other subsidies.
Mr Gently Benevolent
04-23-2005, 11:13 AM
A good example here that massive alien immigration is a good tool for the banksters and the industry to get cheap labor, without thinking about the fate of the native workers. And it's not even hard for the big industry to push this trend, as the leftists are in the same line, by thinking of gaining new voters in the same movement:
Keep the migrants coming
By DAVID WOODING
Whitehall Editor
INDUSTRY chief Sir Digby Jones warned last night that he was opposed to a limit on migrant numbers.
Sir Digby, head of employers’ organisation the Confederation of British Industry, said capping immigration would leave firms unable to find enough workers. .......
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005183015,00.htmlI read the same story in todays FT, I think we can discount anything Howard says about immigration control because when the CBI barks the Tories bite. ;)
woofer
04-23-2005, 12:19 PM
wont it be a problem for small company's to pay this wage though and strill make a profit. I meen at the end of the day people run businesses to make money not a charity. And the minimum wage would push up the price of products
Aerosoul
04-23-2005, 12:20 PM
Cheap labor is good labor.
Violet Fashion by Mindy
04-23-2005, 12:35 PM
wont it be a problem for small company's to pay this wage though and strill make a profit. I meen at the end of the day people run businesses to make money not a charity. And the minimum wage would push up the price of products
You would be suprised. It's all part of the quoting process. And if a company doesent have to compete with a importer from say China then they have nothing to worry about. Besides a more highly skilled workforce is capable of producing more product cheaper then a low paid, unskilled workforce.
It all balances out. Business just whinge of course. Even though long term it's also in their interests since it forces them to change/modernise.
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