(AU)Couple's night of hostage horror

[Geezah]

AN elderly couple were terrorised with a pistol, tied up and had the bulk of their tobacco crop stolen in a terrifying burglary.

While the crop was worth only $70,000 to the farmers, police said the tobacco could be worth millions of dollars on the black market.

The 94 bales would have raised about $28,000 each in government excise - a total of more than $2.6 million.

Joe and Caterina Primerano were tied to chairs for 45 minutes at their Cheshunt home, south of Wangaratta, before freeing themselves and raising the alarm early on Wednesday. "They just remained there - too scared to do anything," said Wangaratta Det Sen-Sgt Lindsay Cummins.

The ordeal began when the Primeranos, in their late 60s, answered a knock at the door of their farmhouse in Upper King River Rd about 11.30pm on Tuesday.

Det Sen-Sgt Cummins said four men went into the kitchen. A balaclava-clad intruder produced a handgun, while the men demanded a key to the tobacco storage area.


Link (http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,15048493%255E421,00.html)

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

This is a bit of a problem. It's not the 1st time it's happened.

Black market tobacco is starting to be very lucrative.

From this case though. From other reports I have read on it. It has all the ingredients to suggest it was the work of organised crime syndicates. Unfortunatly wether the couple was armed or not would not ave made a difference. Hell the farmer probably as a few rifles for pest control.

That being said. Such a valuable crop should of been more securely stored

[joe mama]

This is a bit of a problem. It's not the 1st time it's happened.

Black market tobacco is starting to be very lucrative.

From this case though. From other reports I have read on it. It has all the ingredients to suggest it was the work of organised crime syndicates. Unfortunatly wether the couple was armed or not would not ave made a difference. Hell the farmer probably as a few rifles for pest control.

That being said. Such a valuable crop should of been more securely stored

Did you miss the part where the criminals demanded the key to the storage area? The crop was apparently locked up in some way. What kind of more secure storage would you suggest? Mines? Force fields? Laser cannons? Wait, based on your responses in the thread about the guy that electrified his car, anything that would have tried to protect the crop with something dangerous wouldn't be right, so that rules out anything I mentioned, and rules out dogs too - they bite you know. So locking it well enough that these guys demand the key at gunpoint rather than just breaking in isn't enough - should he have locked the lock? And then locked the key to the lock that locked the lock? And then locked up that key? And then locked that lock too?

I love how you've decided that if the couple was armed it would not have made a difference. It's impossible that, for example, when the criminals come into the house, they could have just initially met one of the two people, and the other could have seen them enter from, perhaps, a back room, and gotten a gun and fired on armed intruders in their home threatening their spouse, and it's impossible that a response like that might have caused the criminals to decide to run, rather than stay, right? 4 on 2 (2 old people, at that) are sh*tty odds, I'm not saying it's definite it could have turned out differently, but for you to decide that it could not have is arrogant as hell.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

What ever you are on. I sure would like some.

[BarkingSquirrel]

Your excellent retort has changed my views. May I have the address of your blog good sir?

[joe mama]

What ever you are on. I sure would like some.

What, no comment on how you would have secured the crop better than they did? And no comment on how your 37 years of Aussie SAS experience are what allow you to KNOW that there's no way these people could have been able to affect the way this crime went if they'd been armed? Notice I say "could" - by no means am I saying it wouldn't have happened if they were armed, and, they may have even had guns. My problem is with you and people like deciding it's impossible that having a gun could have helped, and then using that decision to try to restrict my and other peoples rights.

[Geezah]

What ever you are on. I sure would like some.

What, no comment on how you would secured the crop better than they did? And no comment on how your 37 years of Aussie SAS experience are what allow you to KNOW that there's no way these people could have been able to affect the way this crime went if they'd been armed? Notice I say "could" - by no means am I saying it wouldn't have happened if they were armed, and, they may have even had guns. My problem is with you and people like deciding it's impossible that having a gun could have helped, and then using that decision to try to restrict my and other peoples rights.

X2

I'm electing you the forum messiah for a day p-)

[Opening Batsman]

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[BarkingSquirrel]

Someone bitching about repetitiveness while posting the same thing over and over. Seems you missed the logic train.

[Opening Batsman]

Someone bitching about repetitiveness while posting the same thing over and over. Seems you missed the logic train.

Seems you missed the point of the whole thing. rofl

[BarkingSquirrel]

No, I grasped the point just fine. I'm just not blind to the hypocrisy.

[Opening Batsman]

No, you obviously missed the point. I am posting the same picture on numerous occasions. And then I ask, "Repetitive?" and of course it is repetitive, because it is being posted over and over. And then I say, "Not as repetitive as these stupid gun threads", because my pictures are not so boring and long as these stupid gun threads. I hope you don't need everything like that spelled out to you.

[BarkingSquirrel]

I acknowledged the fact that I understood the point. However you failed, and continue to fail, to understand that bitching about repetitiveness in the exact same way each time is itself repetitive and therefore hypocritical.

[Buckeye67]

Of course, you do have the option of not clicking on them.

In your own words:


I hope you don't need everything like that spelled out to you.

[Geezah]

Or it's a simple case of 'ignorance is bliss'!
When faced with the same reocurring story of an innocent law abiding citizen being shot in Australia, it may sound repetitive because it's the same group of people that are being shot, so, yes in a way it's a repetitive that is not good, but I think you need to complain to the Australian Guberment to restore your rights or to increase the Police presence to that of a Police State before you find fault with me for opeing your eyes to what is taking place in your own country!

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Crime is only a big story on the news here because it hardley happens. A person getting shot is massive news here.

[joe mama]

http://img260.echo.cx/img260/8612/repetitive6if.jpg

The threads aren't nearly as repetitive as your clicking on them. If they're so boring/annoying/whatever, why don't you stop reading them?

[joe mama]

Crime is only a big story on the news here because it hardley happens. A person getting shot is massive news here.

Hmmmm, still no explanation of how you would have secured the crop better and/or how you, with your 58 years of Aussie SAS experience KNOW that there's no possibility these people could have defended themselves with a gun. What a surprise.

[Geezah]

http://img260.echo.cx/img260/8612/repetitive6if.jpg

The threads aren't nearly as repetitive as your clicking on them. If they're so boring/annoying/whatever, why don't you stop reading them?

Must be similar to the way moths are drawn to light?