EDIT: Hitler is still an enigma

[2RHPZ]

Hitler's Final Days

BERLIN (AP) -April 18, 2005 — On the streets of Berlin, Soviet and German forces were locked in the apocalyptic finale to World War II in Europe.

Tens of thousands were dying, and whole city blocks were collapsing in rubble. But 30 feet underground, in Adolf Hitler's bunker, a strange calm had taken hold.

SS Staff Sgt. Rochus Misch, Hitler's bodyguard, had just been told that the Fuehrer was not to be disturbed. And everybody knew what that meant.

"We heard no shot, we heard nothing, but one of those who was in the hallway said, 'I think it's done,"' Misch recalls. "Then everything was really quiet."

Somebody mustered the nerve to enter the sitting room, and Misch peered inside. What he saw is carved forever in his memory: Hitler crumpled over a table, his cheek streaked with blood from the self-inflicted gunshot wound to his head.

...more... (http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/41805-hitler.html)

[Midav]

Interesting read.

[VISTREL]

you need to see this movie:

Der Untergang
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/

About last days of Hitler..very cool movie!

p.s. this is not documentary but still very interesting to watch :)

[2RHPZ]

60 years after the bullet, Hitler is still an enigma

He died 60 years ago today.

To be precise, Adolf Hitler took a revolver and shot himself in the mouth. He probably bit a cyanide capsule to ensure success.

The last thing he would have been aware of was the roar of artillery shells as Russian tanks smashed through the shattered streets of Berlin. It shook the walls of the Chancellery air-raid shelter where he'd been hunkered down all month. By mid-afternoon that April 30, they were just blocks away.

Closing in.

Defeat, failure and retribution were arriving for the leader of the Nazi Third Reich, the "nobody from Vienna" who had been responsible for World War II and the deaths of 55 million people, the man who had calculatedly set out to eradicate the Jewish people, the man for whom 10-year-old boys were now being used to ward off the Red Army.

But Hitler was calm on his last day.

The maps on which he'd been feverishly moving around phantom regiments the past few weeks lay untouched.

Link (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1114813812956)

[He219]

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Hitler's bodyguard and telephone operator Rochus Misch is seen in Hitler's bunker "Wolfsschanze (Wolf's lair)" in Poland in this 1944 photo. (AP Photo, HO)
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Hitler's bodyguard and telephone operator Rochus Misch poses at his home in Berlin, March 10, 2005. Misch found Adolf Hitler _ whom he had served for five years _ slumped dead over a table, with a self-inflicted bullet wound to the head at 3:30pm on April 30th, 1945. (AP Photo/Herbert Knosowski)
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** ADVANCE FOR Sunday, April 24 **Hitler's bodyguard and telephone operator Rochus Misch points on a picture of Adolf Hitler he had taken in Berchtesgarden, southern Germany, in the early 1940th in his house in Berlin March 10, 2005. (AP Photo/Herbert Knosowski)

[Thor]

Hitler lived to fight communism and save the western civilisation, a great commander most of the time. He was way too cruel though.

Stalin would have invaded Europe sooner or later so obviously Hitler did the right thing when he decided to launch an pre-emptive attack towards the evil empire in the east.

The racially segregated America decided to team up with the communist dictator Stalin with some 40 million deaths on his consicense. A great move indeed by the USA; 60 years later they're the worlds only superpower.

But things could easily have ended in a different way. If it hadn't been for a few brave SS-divisions the Berlin wall would never have been built, since the english channel would have become the line between the east and the west.. Then who knows how things would have ended. Also remember that America and it's old allied the Soviet Union nearly faced off in a global nuclear war. World extinction thanks to the american support to Stalin..?

[Jaguar]

Hitler lived to fight communism and save the western civilisation, a great commander most of the time. He was way too cruel though.

Stalin would have invaded Europe sooner or later so obviously Hitler did the right thing when he decided to launch an pre-emptive attack towards the evil empire in the east.

The racially segregated America decided to team up with the communist dictator Stalin with some 40 million deaths on his consicense. A great move indeed by the USA; 60 years later they're the worlds only superpower.

But things could easily have ended in a different way. If it hadn't been for a few brave SS-divisions the Berlin wall would never have been built, since the english channel would have become the line between the east and the west.. Then who knows how things would have ended. Also remember that America and it's old allied the Soviet Union nearly faced off in a global nuclear war. World extinction thanks to the american support to Stalin..?

:cantbeli:

[Amethystfretchen]

Hitler lived to fight communism and save the western civilisation, a great commander most of the time. He was way too cruel though.

Stalin would have invaded Europe sooner or later so obviously Hitler did the right thing when he decided to launch an pre-emptive attack towards the evil empire in the east.

The racially segregated America decided to team up with the communist dictator Stalin with some 40 million deaths on his consicense. A great move indeed by the USA; 60 years later they're the worlds only superpower.

But things could easily have ended in a different way. If it hadn't been for a few brave SS-divisions the Berlin wall would never have been built, since the english channel would have become the line between the east and the west.. Then who knows how things would have ended. Also remember that America and it's old allied the Soviet Union nearly faced off in a global nuclear war. World extinction thanks to the american support to Stalin..?
http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/engel/angel-smiley-007.gif

[Thor]

Just providing an alternative point of view. I'm not a nazi but I hate communism.

[Amethystfretchen]

Nothing wrong with that.... :)

http://www.badnewsonline.com/images/Hitler.jpg

[RSK]

Hitler lived to fight communism and save the western civilisation, a great commander most of the time. He was way too cruel though.

Stalin would have invaded Europe sooner or later so obviously Hitler did the right thing when he decided to launch an pre-emptive attack towards the evil empire in the east.

The racially segregated America decided to team up with the communist dictator Stalin with some 40 million deaths on his consicense. A great move indeed by the USA; 60 years later they're the worlds only superpower.

But things could easily have ended in a different way. If it hadn't been for a few brave SS-divisions the Berlin wall would never have been built, since the english channel would have become the line between the east and the west.. Then who knows how things would have ended. Also remember that America and it's old allied the Soviet Union nearly faced off in a global nuclear war. World extinction thanks to the american support to Stalin..?

Interesting view!

Not that I agree or anything. But interesting none the less!

[Jaguar]

Just providing an alternative point of view. I'm not a nazi but I hate communism.

Ok, but hate for communism don´t justify Hitler´s portray as a savior. He wasn´t a great military commander and Stalin´s hypothetical plan to invade west was, and still is, just an excuse to invasion based on the ancient western fear of the "eastern barbarians", deeply embeded in german colective psyche. The logical conclusion of your point is Germany invaded USSR for liberty and freedom and we do know it wasn´t true, was it?

Mate, you can bash communism and Stalin at will, but doing so in this way makes you just look like a Nazi, a thing you said and I believe you aren´t.

[Tac-jay3000]

Nothing wrong with that.... :)

http://www.badnewsonline.com/images/Hitler.jpg


Hah, That is funny, though the actions of hitler are no joking matter.

[Bryson C]

Interesting article.

[pathfinder82]

Hitler was a petty man, he suffered from serious pychological problems(what a suprise) and his thoughts were not his own. Everything he said was recycled garbage written or said by others. They are seriously questiong that he wrote mein kampf(where the fock is spell check?), there is evidence that some other turd wrote it. I wouldnt be suprised if hitler was a puppet for some kind of hidden goverment.

[PrincessRAR]

hitler shouldnt have been such a pussy ****, he was a weak sack of **** that never did get what was coming to him..

maybe he was smart in the end... :bash:

[bluffcove]

Hitler was a petty man, he suffered from serious pychological problems(what a suprise) and his thoughts were not his own. Everything he said was recycled garbage written or said by others. They are seriously questiong that he wrote mein kampf(where the fock is spell check?), there is evidence that some other turd wrote it. I wouldnt be suprised if hitler was a puppet for some kind of hidden goverment.

What kind of pupper government would that be then?
Anton Drexler? or somebody even higher in the ranks of the NSDAP. What were the aims of this "secret government?" tell me I am in intrigued.

I personally would be very surprised if Hitler was a lapdog or a public facade for this alternative leadership.

amongst his "recycled garbage" are you including Neitschze? read Neitschze's works before attempting to equate the two. Eternal recurrence and the madman in the town, are entirely seperate to the Bastardised form of the Ubermensch that Hitler referred to.

"some other turd" Yes Rudolf Hess did share Hitlers Imprisonment and between the two of them they wrote Mein Kampf, what is your point in this comment?

[Amethystfretchen]

*cough*, please... Nietzsche, Friedrich Nietzsche....! :roll:

[bluffcove]

and the main crux of my argument crumbles on an incorrect spelling!

back to the drawing board guess it must be a puppet government after all!