Russian(Sovjet)assault rifles and submachines

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Russian assault rifles

Bizon PP 19.First mode produced for sovjet cartridge 9/18 mm.Latter produced modes for para 9/19 mm,9/17(short) and 7.62/25 mm(TT)

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/biz002.jpg

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/biz003.jpg

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/biz004.jpg

Bizon-2B(with silencer)

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/biz005.jpg


Bizon PP 27

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/biz006.jpg

60% of this rifle identical with AK

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/biz001.htm

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Kedr
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/ked001.jpg

Cal мм 9 /18 PM
Weight,with 30 cartridges 1,57
Long мм 305
Long of barrel мм 120
НVelocity of bullet м/с 310
Speed of shooting 1000
Rifle distance 50 metars

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Klin.This is mod.of Kedr for 9/19 Para

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/kli001.jpg

[Corpse]

Assault rifles?..

I only see submachine guns so far.;)

The PP-27 I had not seen before, what's its magazine ammo capacity?

btw, wasn't the Klin chambered for the Makarov High Impulse (9mm PMM) cartridge or is there a 9mm Para version available now?

Also I recall its rate of fire was higher than the Kedr; around 1200rpm I think.

[RomanS]

I've shot Bizon with Kalashnikov himself
and the Kedr with Dragunov

[ZeroZen]

I've shot Bizon with Kalashnikov himself
and the Kedr with Dragunov

I like your avatar...... :D

[FDF_Hemppis]

I've shot Bizon with Kalashnikov himself
and the Kedr with Dragunov

Hmm...just a question that crossed my mind:

how good of a shooter is Mr. Kalashnikov himself?

[VaLiancY]

Less talking and more pictures. :D

[RomanS]

I've shot Bizon with Kalashnikov himself
and the Kedr with Dragunov

Hmm...just a question that crossed my mind:

how good of a shooter is Mr. Kalashnikov himself?

At being 60, Viktor Kalashnikov (codesigner of Bizon) was a very good shot.

[Azide]

I've shot Bizon with Kalashnikov himself
and the Kedr with Dragunov

Hmm...just a question that crossed my mind:

how good of a shooter is Mr. Kalashnikov himself?

At being 60, Viktor Kalashnikov (codesigner of Bizon) was a very good shot.

how about some statistics :D

[(_SPETSNAZ_)]

Those bizsons are sweet guns...

[MK-ULTRA]

Anyone has a drawing of the Bizon helical magazine mechanism?

[gaijinsamurai]

The Kiln looks a lot like the Czech Skorpion machine pistol.

[ellion 86R*]

Roman, whats the difference bettween PP Bizon and Bizon 2B?

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

In name of post I made mistake and is true these are submachines as well english is my native.
Bizon 2B different from Bizon by form of shoulder and aim.Sign B is mean bezshumnij(silencer)
Bizon 27 has munitions 7,62/25 which used by sovjet pistols TT and submachines(WW) PPSH and PPS.This is more effective munitions then 9/18 PM,because I had as w PM as TT.
For my mind Bizon which more the same AK is more effective but I have not expirience personally with it
What about Looking of Klin the same Scorpions that is not too corect except of course looking.Scorpions has another construction and I shall set him latter


Submachine PP 90 used by police of Russia

Cal. мм 9/18 .Mod PP 90 M1 used 9/19 Para
Weight 1,83
Long мм 485
Sizes in transport position мм 270х90х32
Velocity of bullet м/с 320
Speed of shooting 600-800
Number of cart. in magazine 30
Range of shooting 100


http://www.worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/pp90/spp90_01.jpg
http://www.worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/pp90/spp90_02.jpg


http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/pp90001.jpg

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Submachine AEK 919 Kashtan
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/kas001.jpg

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/kas002.jpg

http://www.worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/kastan/skastan_02.jpg

Cal., мм 9 /18 PM

Long of barrel мм 167
Нарезы полигональные, 6 штук
Weight without magazine 1,8
Weight of silencer(PBS) 0,25
Size with closed shoulder мм 335х55х190
Long(with shoulder) мм 500

Magazines for 20 and 30 cart.
Velocity of bullet 315 m/sec
Speed of shooting 950
Range of shooting 100 metars

Barrel used for level of 6000 bullets

These data taken from book mrs V.Murahovskij( В.Мураховского) and S.Fedoseev(С.Федосеева) Weapon of infantry( ОРУЖИЕ ПЕХОТЫ)
These data you can find on web www.worldweapon.ru and www.arms.ru
which set by Vadim Adelbaev

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Submachine Kiparis
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/kip001.jpg
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/kip002.jpg
http://www.worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/oc02/skip_01.jpg

Cal.мм 9/18 PM
Weight(without silencer)кг 1,57
Long мм 317
Long with open shoulder мм 590
Velocity of bul. 315 m/s
Speed of shooting 600-900
Range of shooting м 100
Magazines for 20or 30
Life of barrel 6000 bullets

[VaLiancY]

I never knew the Russian weapon industry had so much submachine guns. :D

[GazB]

Nice pics.

Have any photos of Gepard?

[Geocider]

http://www2.orebro.se/skolor/vasaskolan/al3/djur/gepard/gepard.jpg

[coughybean]

I love cheetahs. :)

[Geocider]

Yes, aren't they adorable?

Oh, BTW, cheetah is gepard in Swedish. Is it not so, oh learned Swedish-speaking friends?

[GazB]

Oh, BTW, cheetah is gepard in Swedish.

Not very helpful.

I am refering to the Gepard SMG.

It is based on the AKS-74U but with the pistol grip moved forward to where the magazine housing is on the AKS-74U. The magazine goes through the pistol grip.

[tenda]

zoo cool thead i love those little russian toyz... ;)

[Bluezoo]

Very nice! :D

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Klin-2

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/kli2001.jpg

Cal. мм 7,62х25 ТТ
with magazine 20 cart. 1,63
with magazine 30 cart. 1,67
with open shoulder 571
long of barrel мм 200
Speed of shooting bul./min 900
Velocity of bul. м/s .
- without silencer 310
- with silencer 290

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

PP 93(Mode of PP 90)
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/pp93002.jpg

Cal. мм 9
Weight кг 1, 47
Long with open shoulder мм 577
Long with closed shoulder мм 325
Velocity of bullet, м/с 320
Speed of shooting 600-800
Magazines for 20 and30
Range м 100

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Ukrainen rifles and submachines
Vepr
Cal. 5.45x39 мм
Long 702 мм
Long of barrel 415 мм
weight 3.45 kg
Speed of shooting 600-650
Magazine for 30 bullets

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as68-r.htm


http://world.guns.ru/assault/vepr1.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/vepr2.jpg

Elf-2
Cal 9x18
weight 2,5
long 416/580 mm
Speed of shooting 400-500
Magazine 25, 32
distance 150


http://world.guns.ru/smg/elf.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg40-r.htm

Goblin-2
Cal 9x18 or 9x19para
weight 1.9kg
long 290/510 mm
Speed of shooting 400-500
magazines 25, 32
distnce 100
http://world.guns.ru/smg/goblin.jpg



http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg41-r.htm

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Old sovjet submachines for cal 7,62/25

PPD 40
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg01-r.htm

http://world.guns.ru/smg/ppd1.jpg


PPSh 41
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg02-r.htm

http://world.guns.ru/smg/ppsh41.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/smg/ppsh41_1.jpg

PPS 43
http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg03-r.htm
http://world.guns.ru/smg/pps43.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/smg/pps43_1.jpg

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

http://img10.imagevenue.com/loc60/th_878_Scan10007_smaller.jpg (http://img10.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc60&image=878_Scan10007_smaller.jpg)

here's another Bizon piccie. Whatta hottie! ;)

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

How do the rounds go into the Bizon Magazine? im gessing a spiral starting nearest the trigger and the bullets spirl round to the end?

It's a 64-round ~helical-type magazine~

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

Bizon's seem really cool for an SMG, good round capacity, but I think would take an AKSU instead! ;)

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

АК-102 5,56 х 45
АК-104 7,62 х 39
АК-105 5,45 х 39

Speed of shooting 600 600 600
Distance of fire м 1.000 1.000 1.000
Velocity of bul. м/сек 850 670 840
Weight of bul., г 4,0 7,9 3,42
Weight without magazine 3,0 2,9 3,0
Magazines 30 30 30
Long of barrel мм 314 314 314
Long
Open shoulder 586 586 586
824 824 824

AK 102

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak100/ak102.jpg

AK 104

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak100/ak104.jpg

AK 105

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak100/ak105.jpg

[Virus]

i want an ak104 :(

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Bizon-2
http://www.club.guns.ru/images/bizon-1-sm.jpg

Dissambled Bizon-2
http://www.club.guns.ru/images/bizon-2-sm.jpg

Bizon-3

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/bizon-3-sm.jpg

Constructors of family Bizon
Men are sitting from left side A.Dragunov(А. Драгунов),V.Kalashnikov( В. Калашников)are standing from left side D.Dolganov(Д. Долганов),S.Gorbunov( С. Горбунов).

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/bizon-a-sm.jpg

http://www.club.guns.ru/bizon.html

You can find there video on english

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

AK 101
5,56/45

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak100/ak101.jpg


AK 103
7,62/39



http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak100/ak103.jpg

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

AK 107/AK 108 (5,45/39 5,56/45)
http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak107-4-sm.jpg

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak107-5-sm.jpg

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak107-6-sm.jpg

http://www.club.guns.ru/images/ak107-7-sm.jpg

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Old italian submachine was made by Abel Revelly for companies Villar-Pressa and Fiat in 1915
Long —594мм

Long of barrel —310мм

Weight—6,18кg

Velocity of bullet 390м/s


http://supergun.ru/pistol-pulemet/image/image002.jpg
http://supergun.ru/pistol-pulemet/index.php

Germany submachine MP 18 was made in 1917 by Hugo Shmajsser
http://supergun.ru/pistol-pulemet/image/image004.jpg

http://supergun.ru/pistol-pulemet/image/image006.jpg
MP 28 was made in 1928
9мм/18 mm

Velocity 340м/м

Long 810мм

Long of barrel 200мм

Weight 4,1кg

http://supergun.ru/pistol-pulemet/image/image008.jpg

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

OC 14 Groza
9/40-мм ОЦ-14-4А ("Гроза-4")

Боеприпасы 9-мм патроны СП-5 и -6, 40-мм выстрелы ВОГ-25, ВОГ-25П.
Принцип работы автоматика на основе отвода пороховых газов.
Питание коробчатый магазин емкостью 20 патронов.
Масса 3,8 кг (неснаряженного).
Длина оружия 550 мм.
Длина ствола 240 мм.
Режим огня одиночный/непрерывный (из автомата).
Темп стрельбы 700 в/мин.
Прицельная дальность 200 м.



http://www.worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/oc14/soc14_01.jpg
http://www.worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/oc14/soc14_01.jpg
http://www.worldweapon.ru/images/strelok/oc14/soc14_02.jpg

[VaLiancY]

:hug: Thanks a lot. That Bizon-2 video was sweet.

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

Oh yes,this is best web about AK,and they have direct contact with Izhevsk factory

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

AN 94

http://militarism.fatal.ru/shooting/an-94_3.gif
http://militarism.fatal.ru/shooting/an-94_4.gif

[Raistlin]

Why is the magazine tilted?

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

On account of back spring(I am not sure in correct my english)wich push barrel in during fire.Barrel has movie forward and back in during shooting
and first and second bullet go on before back of mechanism.Excuse me for bad english.You can find descript about work this mechanism here
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as08tech-r.htm

http://world.guns.ru/assault/an94d-1.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/an94d-2.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/an94d-3.jpg

[Deminer from Sarajevo]

http://world.guns.ru/assault/aps.jpg

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as69-r.htm

This APS indented for used under water(but is possibility shooting in air by automatic fire or by single
Cal.5,6х39 мм
Long 823 / 615 мм
Weight 2,4 kg/3,4 kg
Magazine 26 bullets

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as69-r.htm