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Deuterium
12-05-2003, 08:09 AM
FWIW. A little bit of cheerleading never hurt anyone....


An Email from a Captain in Iraq

We knew there was a dinner planned with ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. There were 600 seats available and all the units in the division weretasked with filling a few tables. Naturally, the XXXXst MI battalion got ourtable. Soldiers were grumbling about having to sit through another dog-and-pony show, so we had to pick soldiers to attend. I chose not to go.

But, about 1500 the G2, LTC XXXX, came up to me and with a smile, asked me to come to dinner with him, to meet him in his office at 1600 and bring a camera. I didn't really care about getting a picture with Sanchez or Bremer, but when the division's senior intelligence officer asks you to go, you go. We were seated in the chow hall, fully decorated for thanksgiving when aaaaallllll kinds of secret service guys showed up.

That was my first clue, because Bremer's been here before and his personal security detachment is not that big. Then BG Dempsey got up to speak, and he welcomed ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. Bremer thanked us all and pulled out a piece of paper as if to give a speech. He mentioned that the President had given him this thanksgiving speech to give to the troops. He then paused and said that the senior man present should be the one to give it. He then looked at Sanchez, who just smiled.

Bremer then said that we should probably get someone more senior to read the speech. Then, from behind the camouflage netting, the President of the United States came around. The mess hall actually erupted with hollering. Troops bounded to their feet with shocked smiles and just began cheering with all their hearts. The building actually shook. It was just unreal. I was absolutely stunned. Not only for the obvious, but also because I was only two tables away from the podium. There he stood, less than thirty feet away from me! The cheering went on and on and on.

Soldiers were hollering, cheering, and a lot of them were crying. There was not a dry eye at my table. When he stepped up to the cheering, I could clearly see tears running down his cheeks. It was the most surreal moment I've had in years. Not since my wedding and XXXX being born. Here was this man, our President, came all the way around the world, spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in the most dangerous airport in the world, where a plane was shot out of the sky not six days before.

Just to spend two hours with his troops. Only to get on a plane and spend another 17 hours flying back. It was a great moment, and I will never forget it. He delivered his speech, which we all loved, when he looked right at me and held his eyes on me. Then he stepped down and was just mobbed by the soldiers. He slowly worked his way all the way around the chow hall and shook every last hand extended. Every soldier who wanted a photo with the President got one. I made my way through the line, got dinner, then wolfed it down as he was still working the room.

You could tell he was really enjoying himself. It wasn't just a photo opportunity. This man was actually enjoying himself! He worked his way over the course of about 90 minutes towards my side of the room. Meanwhile, I took the opportunity to shake a few hands. I got a picture with Ambassador Bremer, Talabani (acting Iraqi president) and Achmed Chalabi (another member of the ruling council) and Condaleeza Rice, who was there with him.

I felt like I was drunk. He was getting closer to my table so I went back over to my seat. As he passed and posed for photos, he looked my in the eye and "How you doin', captain." I smiled and said "God bless you, sir." To which he responded "I'm proud of what you do, captain." Then moved on.

Trident-za
12-05-2003, 08:15 AM
:)

Upfrontreporting
12-05-2003, 08:18 AM
Must have been one hell of an experience

Argyll
12-05-2003, 08:50 AM
Nice one!
You'll not see that response from the Brits if it was Tony Blair or even HM herself!!

09OCT1967
12-05-2003, 09:49 AM
No doubt about it. A man truely worthy to lead the strongest military force in the world and hold the title of POTUS! Remember boys he did this for us because each and everyone of us is worth it. What we are doing in the world today is making it safer for everyone even if they dont know it. God bless all of you serving now, those who will serve in the future, and all those brave veterans who went before us. God bless the President of The United States!

Alpha Leader
12-05-2003, 09:50 AM
;)
Lucky Man.

"Bush saves the day"

Dalleer
12-05-2003, 10:26 AM
If Bush would suddenly crash my thanksgiving dinner I'd be real pissed...

But hey, at least the guy travels to the spots where the troops are located, so at least he keeps the morale up and running...

Can't blame the man for trying.

Seoulstriker
12-05-2003, 10:33 AM
i saw the footage of bush coming on stage and the soldiers erupting with shouts, but this letter adds a whole 'nother dimension. :D


i love bush. :hug:

Seoulstriker
12-05-2003, 10:36 AM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/images/20031127_dsc2021-790v.jpg

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/images/20031127_dsc2048-515h.jpg

woot woot woot

Argyll
12-05-2003, 10:41 AM
Given the example I posted,why is that there is more Euphoria concerning the US Commander in Chief,than what we Brits have?
Is it that the Americans are far more patriotic than us,and that they have a deeper Religious background than the British Army,in all my years of service I never once heard a Commanding Officer tell us that we go with the Grace of God,or any other religious undertones!!
Why are the beliefs of the US Soldier seemingly so much more stronger,than the rest of the world ,I have yet to hear a Brit soldier in rescent conflicts say that they fought for Freedom,most of my mates say that they couldn't give a toss who was running the country(UK),and that it was not them they were fighting for,but rather they were fighting for Regimantal pride,and for each other!!
I can see it clear as day,if TB came out to visit my old Regiment,and told them that they were fighting and dying for a better cause he'd be told to shut the fu*k up,and go and put a uniform on,yet if the CIC of the USA told his men to march into battle against overwhelming odds,I do believe that these men would do so!!
We Brits are pretty emotionless when it comes to conflicts and war.......why is that?



Seoul I love bush too,but a different variety!! woot

Roger Rabbit
12-05-2003, 12:36 PM
Having never served in a regular unit or served at all come to that then anybody reading my views should take them with a pinch of salt(or pepper if you would prefer).

Anyway my view is that British people in general are far more cynical(you only have to look at the type of comedy people enjoy in Britain) and have a much more down to earth view upon life. This of course affects the views of serving soldiers. Thats my view, the British are just more cynical and so consequently British soldiers have a much more cynical view.

Seoulstriker
12-05-2003, 12:43 PM
Given the example I posted,why is that there is more Euphoria concerning the US Commander in Chief,than what we Brits have?
Is it that the Americans are far more patriotic than us,and that they have a deeper Religious background than the British Army,in all my years of service I never once heard a Commanding Officer tell us that we go with the Grace of God,or any other religious undertones!!
Why are the beliefs of the US Soldier seemingly so much more stronger,than the rest of the world ,I have yet to hear a Brit soldier in rescent conflicts say that they fought for Freedom,most of my mates say that they couldn't give a toss who was running the country(UK),and that it was not them they were fighting for,but rather they were fighting for Regimantal pride,and for each other!!
I can see it clear as day,if TB came out to visit my old Regiment,and told them that they were fighting and dying for a better cause he'd be told to shut the fu*k up,and go and put a uniform on,yet if the CIC of the USA told his men to march into battle against overwhelming odds,I do believe that these men would do so!!
We Brits are pretty emotionless when it comes to conflicts and war.......why is that?


i'm not really sure, but i love your commentary! woot



Seoul I love bush too,but a different variety!! woot

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Trigger
12-05-2003, 01:33 PM
Thanks Deuterium! woot

Jack Mehoff
12-05-2003, 01:35 PM
Given the example I posted,why is that there is more Euphoria concerning the US Commander in Chief,than what we Brits have?
Is it that the Americans are far more patriotic than us,and that they have a deeper Religious background than the British Army,in all my years of service I never once heard a Commanding Officer tell us that we go with the Grace of God,or any other religious undertones!!
Why are the beliefs of the US Soldier seemingly so much more stronger,than the rest of the world ,I have yet to hear a Brit soldier in rescent conflicts say that they fought for Freedom,most of my mates say that they couldn't give a toss who was running the country(UK),and that it was not them they were fighting for,but rather they were fighting for Regimantal pride,and for each other!!
I can see it clear as day,if TB came out to visit my old Regiment,and told them that they were fighting and dying for a better cause he'd be told to shut the fu*k up,and go and put a uniform on,yet if the CIC of the USA told his men to march into battle against overwhelming odds,I do believe that these men would do so!!
We Brits are pretty emotionless when it comes to conflicts and war.......why is that?



Seoul I love bush too,but a different variety!! woot

Because you would rather have your kings and queens ;)

Damn the monarchy!!!

Argyll
12-05-2003, 01:43 PM
On the contrary Jack,I seriously doubt there's many who would go into battle for Queen and Country today!!

There just seems to be so much passion involved where you chappies are concerned,it's a unique quality!!!

cut
12-05-2003, 01:43 PM
This is Bush at his best, I still definately wouldn't want him instead of Tony Blair.

Trident-za
12-05-2003, 02:17 PM
You raise an interesting point, Argyll. It's something that amazes me everytime I see it - American troops are definitely more "passionate" about what they are doing, and more convinced that what they are doing is for all mankind.

When I was serving in the South African army I was more like the Brits - didn't really care who was in charge of the country (they were bound to **** it up) and I wasn't fighting for them anyway..... I believed in what I was doing (fighting terrorism), but all the rest of the political crap was just that, and I certainly didn't think I was fighting for the betterment of the world. If anything, I was hoping like hell that the government at the time would come to as quick an end as possible. If any of the political leaders at the time had visited us, I would have had no interest whatsoever...

Being cynical, or jaded, is maybe the answer.... it's an odd thing really. I've met quite a few US people who have come to South Africa to study, and the one thing that has always struck me is how self-confident they are. Americans seemed to be raised on a diet of "the US is the best thing that ever happened to the world" from the age of about 1 month. I'm not trying to say its right or wrong, but it seems to be an attitude unlike what most other countries have. I cannot recall ever once hearing a similar thing when I was growing up.... how great (or not) my country was just didn't come up.

I think the US response to things like this stems from the fact that most Americans truly believe that their country is the best, and that they are doing the entire world a favour. As such, the "leader" is almost a messiah-like figure. (again, I'm not saying this attitude is right or wrong). Personally, I think of my president as just another guy, no different to me (except he earns more).

Out of curiosity : is this kind of response only to guys like Bush, or did the troops in Clinton's era respond the same way?

Trigger
12-05-2003, 02:21 PM
Trident-za wrote:

Out of curiosity : is this kind of response only to guys like Bush, or did the troops in Clinton's era respond the same way?
Clinton made no attempt to hide his contempt for the military. The military was well aware of this and responded in kind.
People know Bush supports and loves his troops, and they too respond in kind.

Trident-za
12-05-2003, 02:23 PM
OK, thanks Trigger. Can't say I blame them! My general apathy towards politicians would definitely have changed if I thought the buggers despised me for implementing their bull**** ideas :(

Just a quick note: I am not a massive Bush fan, or massive anti-Bush person either. I'm, well, apathetic.... I do think its great, though to have a president who treats the military as something special, not just an inconvenience. To my way of thinking, politicians f**k the world up, soldiers try fix it.

Seoulstriker
12-05-2003, 02:30 PM
Trident-za wrote:

Out of curiosity : is this kind of response only to guys like Bush, or did the troops in Clinton's era respond the same way?
Clinton made no attempt to hide his contempt for the military. The military was well aware of this and responded in kind.
People know Bush supports and loves his troops, and they too respond in kind.

the troops also love bush so much because he is so polar from clinton. it's quite refreshing for me and for most of america to have such an incredible president in contrast to the absolutely terrible failure clinton was.

kinghk
12-05-2003, 02:54 PM
i love bush. :hug:

So do I

http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.php/3ed51638/Dsc02000.jpg

Seoulstriker
12-05-2003, 03:02 PM
i love bush. :hug:

So do I

http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.php/3ed51638/Dsc02000.jpg

that girl looks like she gets around. :P

usa320
12-05-2003, 03:42 PM
talk about Cojones.

Between landing on an aircraft carrier and landing in Baghdad 6 days after the DHL plane got offed, Bush has some mighty large balls, and he is commended for that.

Midtown
12-05-2003, 05:49 PM
Id slap that girl around. (have ****** relations with her, for you foriegners)

But I think its very commendable that bush did that, I didnt vote for him, but I really like the job he's doing. I havnt had a complaint yet.

ScopeScene
12-05-2003, 06:11 PM
What was the source of that letter? thanks