Funky Javehn pic's 2 - From IDF

[Javehn]

Wass up ? I am back in here with fresh and funky , and all of it for you.
So , let the bodies hit the flore , or let's get the party started. All of those pictures taken during operation "Homat Magen "-"Shield Wall" , and belonging to www.waronline.org

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Raids/Ramallah290302/080.jpg

I had encoutered this fenomena myself . It makes the job much harder , sometimes inpossible and very annoying when camera "battalion" is standing there . March 20 , 2002 , Rammalah , west Bank.Notice all the suicide pictures on the walls - they taken up to "saints" level.

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Raids/Ramallah290302/083.jpg

Siege on Araphat headquarters inside Rammala (Mukata ) . The mustash guy is French activist for Palestinian rights - Jose Bove. He negotiated with Israeli soldiers , that allowed him to deliver abmulance , and medical supply inside seaged complex . Tank infront is "Merkava 2B" , and behind him APC "Ahzarit" .

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Raids/Ramallah290302/063.jpg

This APC belongs to AA units . This is 6 barrel Vulcan mounted on M113 . Originaly Stinger missile mounted on top of this vehicle , but combined with tank units it has prooven it's effectivness on Urban combats . This APC without the stinger detachment could engage the high ground above tank that was dead territory ( high buildings , or the windows the tank is passing bellow) to tank himself , and was effective to provide cover from the 3-rd dimention .

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Raids/Ramallah290302/061.jpg

That's the ambluance that was approved to Yasser Headquarters inside Rammalah-the one that was sent by Jose Bove-french activist. The tank is "Magach 6" , Israeli M60 .

And the lest , on other note .

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Raids/Ramallah290302/043.jpg

Israeli soldier givving detained Palestinian fighter to speak with his family . That one neads no explanation.

That's it then , your comments , thoughts , reactions .

[Salty Dog]

nice pictures javehn.

[Deuterium]

Hey Honey? I'm going to be a little late tonight....

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Raids/Ramallah290302/043.jpg

[Lobo]

Jose Bové is a French farmer. He became some kind of national heroe for many French people when he trashed a McDonald's junk food "restaurant" in 1999 that was been built in a Languedoc's village. He's the leader of Confédération Paysanne (Peasant Confederation) and has become one of the icons of the Antiglobalization Movement.

[Deuterium]

British to Boycott French Wine Until Weapons Testing Stops
By Scott Kraft
Los Angeles Times
PARIS

After French President Jacques Chirac decided to resume nuclear-weapons tests in the South Pacific, one nation recalled its ambassador to France. Protesters burned the French flag and set fire to an embassy, 3 million people signed petitions and environmentalists disrupted French military operations.

But of all the worldwide protests, the one that has hit home is the campaign by France's own European neighbors to boycott that most enduring symbol of all that is French: wine. And it is not merely a matter of national pride.

The boycott is already blamed for trimming the country's Bordeaux exports by 5 percent, and with international outrage mounting over France's detonation of a nuclear device Tuesday in the South Pacific, vintners fear the damage could get far worse.

The French have been particularly dismayed by the boycott call contained in an advertisement devised for movie theaters by anti-nuclear forces in Great Britain, which happens to be both the top consumer of French wine and France's historical nemesis.

The ad, prepared without charge by a London agency, is a takeoff on a scene from the movie "The Day of the Jackal." It shows a Chirac look-alike drinking wine at an outdoor cafe as a sniper takes aim at him.

"That advertising spot is scandalous," said Hubert Bouteiller, a Bordeaux wine grower and president of the region's producer association. In fact, the French government has lodged a protest with the British government.

Danny Thompson, spokesman for the National Peace Council in Britain, countered that while the ad "is pretty hard-hitting, we see it as humorous. A spoof. Having seen the fuss it has caused in France, though, seems to justify our decision to go ahead with it."

Although it's still too early for firm figures, the Bordeaux wine-producers' association says it already has seen about a 5 percent drop in orders from abroad. And the critical pre-Christmas sales months are fast approaching. Some producers could lose as much as 35 percent of their revenue this year, the industry association says.

The aim of the British boycott is to persuade France's powerful agricultural lobby to use its influence with Chirac. "What we're saying is, ŒUse your voices now, and tell Chirac that what he's (doing) is unacceptable,"' Thompson said. "This is not against the French people."

A recent public opinion poll found that 60 percent of the French oppose a resumption of nuclear tests. But French citizens of all persuasions have been angered by the campaign against their country's products. That feeling was summed up in the current issue of the magazine Paris Match, which ran six frames of the British ad with the headline: "The English Hit Below the Belt."



Sorry had to respond....

[wholagun]

http://www.waronline.org/IDF/pictures/Raids/Ramallah290302/063.jpg

This APC belongs to AA units . This is 6 barrel Vulcan mounted on M113 . Originaly Stinger missile mounted on top of this vehicle , but combined with tank units it has prooven it's effectivness on Urban combats . This APC without the stinger detachment could engage the high ground above tank that was dead territory ( high buildings , or the windows the tank is passing bellow) to tank himself , and was effective to provide cover from the 3-rd dimention .



This is why I am a HUGE fan of the IDF. I always said, if you want training, or you wanna buy equipment look no where else but the IDF and Israel. Just amazing.

Thats a nice set up they got on the APC. You got any more pics of the APC with that same setup with the vulcan on the M113?

[Operation Ivy]

is that an M60A3 in the 4th pic? or a MAGAH-6 ?(think thats how its spelled)....Good pics btw woot :hug:

[IDFM203]

This is why I am a HUGE fan of the IDF. I always said, if you want training, or you wanna buy equipment look no where else but the IDF and Israel. Just amazing.

Thats a nice set up they got on the APC. You got any more pics of the APC with that same setup with the vulcan on the M113?

Well you asked for them so here they are :D

"The Hovet"

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/hovet.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/hovet_v1.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/hovet_v2.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/hovet2.jpg

The Hovet (M163) is a self propelled variant of the General Dynamics 20mm Vulcan Air Defence System program based M113. Modification include new linked digital fire-control computer with range-only radar, and adding the new APDS round which increases range to 3.5 km.
The Hovet utilized a modified version of the US Air Force's M61 Vulcan six-barreled 20mm rotary cannon. It was installed in a turret on a modified M113A1 APC. Since the Hovet weighed so much more than the M113 APC, flotation cells were fitted to the sides of the vehicle, and a high-displacement trim vane was added to the front. When the powertrain modifications of the M113A2 APC were introduced to the Hovet, the carrier vehicle was redesignated as M741A1. The improved suspension of the M113A2 was not fitted since the Hovet's suspension was fitted with the lockout device. The Vulcan could fire at a high rate of 3000 rounds per minute in 10-, 30-, 60-, or 100-rounds bursts, and it could also fire at a low rate of 1000 rounds per minute.

The Product Improved Vulcan Air Defense System (PIVADS), was a kit developed by Lockheed Electronics Company which reduced the gunner's workload and improved the accuracy of the system. Hardware improvements included a digital microprocessor, director sight, low backlash azimuth drive system, and the ability to fire armor-piercing discarding sabot (APDS) ammunition. PIVADS provided its operators with automatic notification of system failures through its built-in test equipment (BITE). PIVADS's radar remained a range-only device.


oh and just thought youd like pics as well of the more advanced "Machbet" (Tracked Armoured Air Defence Vehicle)...

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/machbet.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/machbet_2.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/machbet_5.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/machbet_3.jpg
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/machbet_4.jpg

The Israeli Aircraft Industries (IAI) developed the Machbet in the mid 1990's. It had undergone testing in the IDF in 1997 and entered operational service in 1998. Pending on budget issues, the IAF is planning to convert all its Hovet APC to the newer Machbet configuration.
The Machbet is an advanced MBT air defense product, in service in the Israeli Air Force. It adds an enhanced suit of TV and FLIR target auto-tracking capability to M113/Vulcan/Stinger launchers. A unit-level fire coordination and management capability is provided, as well as an interface to a sectorial air surveillance radar for the air targets picture. These all enable to acquire approaching targets at an early stage, making the weapons much more efficient.

500m minimum range; 6,000m maximum range against helicopters; 8,000m against aircraft
Interfaces with the EL/M 2106 search radar
Adaptable to Stinger, MISTRAL, SA-16, SA-18 and other short range missiles.

It is almost identical to the Hovet, but atop the turret is a launching box with 4 Stinger launchers. This vehicle was a surprise to enemy pilots who felt they had spotted a standard PIVAD (Product Improved Vulcan Air Defense System) and thought they were out of range of it.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/m-113/Machbet.html


Thanks for your kind words of repect for the IDF :D

As for Israeli training and equipment as being one of the best well I am glad you recognised that truth and you should know that Poland as well recognises that and that’s why Poland buys from Israel military products as well as invites Israel to upgrade some of its existing systems.

shalom :D

[Operation Ivy]

Thats F**king awsome! woot

[One?]

I have seen a picture on this forum with an IDF soldeir have this stock on his M4

Is this type of stock in use by the IDF?

PS: sorry for not finding a better quailty picture
http://www.classicarmy.com/photo/277_P0bA078P%201.jpg

[wholagun]

Thanks for your kind words of repect for the IDF

As for Israeli training and equipment as being one of the best well I am glad you recognised that truth and you should know that Poland as well recognises that and that’s why Poland buys from Israel military products as well as invites Israel to upgrade some of its existing systems.



Well respect has to be given when it is deemed necessary to give, and in the case of the IDF I oblige. In fact Im gonna make it my mission to over the holidays which begin for me on Dec 17th after my International Relations exam and I go home I will read up and learn more about the IDF. IDF is just so intreging and just......so right in all aspects of well.....everything.

Never heard of the The Hovet until today. Nice, how you got a 3 in 1 package. Anti-aircraft, anti personel, and troop transport. Cool, very impressive.

yeah we are right now recieving Spike anti-amour missiles, not cheap, but quality isn't. Although thats the only Israeli company arms deal i know in Poland. Hopefully more in the future.

[Nizark]

that APC w/ vulcan is awesome...sucka could probably do some good duck hunting with the air attack version

[Saranof]

Don't see why no other armys use the vulcan mod m113 for ground warfare. Anyone ever played OFP, and used a shilika or vulcan against infantry (or armour) ? The effect is...satisfing :)

[wreck]

Don't see why no other armys use the vulcan mod m113 for ground warfare. Anyone ever played OFP, and used a shilika or vulcan against infantry (or armour) ? The effect is...satisfing :)
Shilkas are used in ground support role in chechnya.

[Roger Rabbit]

Could a Shilka or M113 Vulcan really take out an armoured vehicle easily?

[Uncle Chô]

Jose Bové is a French farmer. He became some kind of national heroe for many French people when he trashed a McDonald's junk food "restaurant" in 1999 that was been built in a Languedoc's village. He's the leader of Confédération Paysanne (Peasant Confederation) and has become one of the icons of the Antiglobalization Movement. :bash: José Bové is much more than a "peaceful farmer". It is a sinister clown. He has been extremely active as a far leftist leader for the last 30 years. He went several times to jail because of multiple acts of sabotage of all kind against State / military symbols. His current target is the GATT and GMO food. He sometimes raises good questions but never proposed a valid answer.

To my opinion, his strong point is a very smart use of the media, both foreign and domestic. The rest is only BS for brainless activists.

http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/~ajadalla/Jose%20Bove%20and%20foreigners%20try%20to%20send%20food%20and%20medicine%20to%20bes.jpg

http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/new/struggles/palestine/020402151007.deqivyjn0b.jpg

http://www.alencontre.org/Images/temp/jose.jpg

[Javehn]

Allright , nice response !!!
Ok , first of all ,i didn't understand what is going on between Franchies and Englishmans .
Second , to OperationIvy , this one can be MAGAH 6B , or Magah 6B Gal (both are M60A3 different modifications). Becose of most MAGAH 6B was upgraded to level of MAGAH 6B Gal , i can tell you that it's almost positive the last one . But , sence this operation was very wide , and a lot of reserve unit participated on it , it can be also the old type MAGAH 6 - that's M60A1 , and the outside difference between all of those isn't that big . My point is- I AM NOT SHURE :)

About the hovet , i bellieve that its not used more , most are upgraded . I think the mahbet is in use now , and those vehicles that are used in the operations were Mahbet with the stinger down .

About the stock on m4 , more or less , yes . There is plastic stock for M4 , and aluminium . The difference between the stock on m4 and car15 is that on car15 the stock can open on 2 positions : fully open , and fully closed , while on m4 it can be opened at 4 different position , making different types of shooting much easy . A lot of IDF soldiers scrue holls inside the car15 stock addaptor , making it work the same way as on m4 .
About the SHLK , yes , the Russian army ( And Soviet Army) used it in Aphganistan on the same manner, and used it also in Chechnya , if i am not mistaken . And yes , Vulcan can take light armored vehicle out , but that doesn't the intent of using it . The intent of using it , that Vulcan sight angle can go up to Zenit ( + 90 degrees ) , and can cover up effectivly the 3rd dimmantion. Not menchion that it has awasome fire power !! I have been vitnessed what can Vulcan do for 10 seconds to entire building flore .


And last , but not list , another picture for your thoughts -

http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2003/november/dotz%2030.11.03-03.jpg


On the date of 12.11.03 , palestinian terrorists shooted at Israeli workers on Gaza streap . IDF patrol force that been around , identified the shooting source , and killed one terrorist. On this picture shown the terrorists taken by local security camera ( and enough said ) , when they evacuating the vounded terrorist. On the picture seen 2 kids taken by terrorists - maybe to act as a shield against Israeli troops , maybe to train them , either way ...

More thoughts , comments , reactions .

[ArmoredDov_D9]

Great pics you've put here!

And here is my little contributition:

Today, most of the IDF Hovet SPAAD (self-propelled anti-aircraft defence) have been upgraded to the Machbet מחבט ("Batter") SPAAD.
The M61 Vulcan have awesom firepower and it can supress any enemy fire easily. Its main disadvantage that it is very expensive to operate.

http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload03/031022_094411-2284_terrorist-house-destroyed16.jpg
This is a picture of two IDF armoured Caterpillar D9 bulldozers demolishing the official Palestinian Radio station in Ramallah, after the last one engaged in anti-semite and pro-murder propoganda against Jews.

http://hydepark.co.il/hydepark/upload01/030613_204133-1436_d9-idf%20pic101.jpg
D9 bulldozer demolishing an abandoned house which was used as a sniping post by terrorists.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/engineer_vehicles/nagmachon/nagmachon2.jpg
Two Nagmachon AFV patroling the north border. The Nagmachon is basicly a moving pillbox with heavy armour and anti-mine protection, making it ideal for urban warfare, rather than the skinny Stryker. The Nagmachon can serve both as APC (carrying troops) and both as Conbat Engineering vehicles (with proper attachtments). The high pillbox turret enables troops to oversee the area and fire soft targets without being exposed. Nagmachon AFVs are often seen with armoured D9 bulldozers, fighting terrorism.