Spanish Rebeco

[MARINO]

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[Seoulstriker]

is that the same thing as a hummer?

[MARINO]

No is a spanish clon of Hummer is made by Urovesa we call it also VAMTAC

[Loco]

is that the same thing as a hummer?
It isn´t nor is a clone, althogh the external looks similar. It has different engineering, chasis frame, engine, a different product in resume. The maker is this http://www.urovesa.es/
and it doesn´t pay any royalty of course.
About Rebeco´s characteristics, a forum member called David-Spanish wrote the next post http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/album09/span5 , in spanish. At the bottom I pasted the traslation, excuse me but my english is very poor specially about technic words and I used a web-dictionary:
IN SPANISH:
m: David_Spanish. (Oct 16, 2003 18:02 Eastern Standard Time)
El Rebeco (URO VamTAC) es mejor en campo que el Hummer americano por una simple cuestion... los Hummer conectan la transmision delantera por medio de cadenas (fragiles), no por robustos engranajes de tipo directo. A esto se une que el Hummer no puede bloquear los diferenciales (ni tan solo el trasero) por lo que al perder traccion por una rueda todo el poderio del magnifico motor (unica ventaja) se viene abajo... el URO bloquea los tres diferenciales al 100%... Los angulos de salida y ataque son favorables al URO, pero donde mayor diferencia hay es en el angulo ventral, que el URO le aventaja en casi 1,5º... que ya es mucho. Respecto de la carga el URO es mas grande, pero de ruedas mas pequeñas (penalizado por arte y gracia del glorioso mando del ejercito español... incompetentes), por lo que posee una altura menor de los semicarteres al suelo (creo que por 2 o 3 cm...). La mayor batalla del Hummer lo hace mas estable en caminos rotos, pero menos agil... y de eso que los Hummer pueden llegar y el URO no... kizas sea que ese URO no lo conduzco yo... algunas vez habeis visto un Suzuki Samurai (preparado, eso si) rescatar de una poza de fango a un Hummer?? En la Rainforest de Malasia lo hicieron los belgas a los propios yankis, creo recordar (hubieron de tragar mucho orguyo aquel dia). El hecho de que el URO sea copia es tan facil de explicar como que el Hummer es copia del Lamborghini LM002... por privar la eficacia la estetica queda relevada y las formas pasan a ser cuadradas (mas sencillas de fabricar y reparar) y los coches mas feos (aunque a mi me gustan). Respecto del G36... qizas los mas añejos lo crean menos competitivo que el CETME... pero hay que renovarse o morir.
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IN ENGLISH:
The Rebeco (AUROCHS VamTAC) is better in field that the American Hummer for a simple question ... the Hummer connect the front transmission by means of (fragile) chains, not for robust cogwheels of direct type. To this one joins that the Hummer cannot block the differential ones (not even only the bottom) for what, on having lost haulage for a wheel, all the power of the magnificent engine (the only advantage) collapses ... the AUROCHS blocks the three differentials ones to 100 %... The angles of exit and attack are favorable to the AUROCHS, but where major difference is it is in the angle ventral, that the AUROCHS surpasses him in almost 1,5º ... that is already great. Regard of the load the AUROCHS is bigger, but of smaller wheels (penalized by art and grace of the glorious control of the Spanish army ... incompetent), for what it possesses a minor height of the semi oil pan(box?) to the soil (I believe than for 2 or 3 cm ...). The biggest battle of the Hummer makes it stabler in broken roads, but less agile ... and that thing about if Hummers can reach the end and the AUROCHS not? ... probably be that if I don´t lead this AUROCHS ... have you ever seen a Suzuki Samurai (prepared, of course) to rescue of a large puddle of mud a Hummer?? In the Rainforest Race of Malaysia the Belgians did it to the own yankis, if I remember well (they had to swallow very much pride that day). The fact that the AUROCHS is a copy it is so easy to explain as that the Hummer is a copy of the Lamborghini LM002 ... for giving priority to the efficacy the aesthetics remain relegated and the forms happen to be squared (simpler to make and to repair) and the cars are uglier (though I like)...

[REMOV]

It isn´t nor is a clone, althogh the external looks similar. URO (or UROVESA URO Vehiculos Especiales S.A.) VAMTAC TT is a HMMWV clone. Basically URO company took the Hummer and redesigned the vehicle using modern technologies, so it is something like a upgrade model.

it is so easy to explain as that the Hummer is a copy of the Lamborghini LM002Tell your friend that he is completly wrong. There were THREE proposals of military vehicle program called HMMWV (High Mobility Muli-purpose Wheeled Vehicle):

(1) XM998 made by Chrysler Defense Division
(2) XM911 made by Teledine Continental (and this vehicle idea was based on Lamborghini (or Mobility Technology International model), but Cheetah (http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Cheetah/index.html) not LM002.
(3) XM966 CSV (Combat Support Vehicle) made by AM General (Division of LTV Aerospace and Defense) based on designed in 1970-1978 in FMC Corporation vehicle called XR311 Dune Buggy.

In 1980 the tests of future HMMWV began and last till 1983. The first LM002 (http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/LM002/index.html) was made in 1986, the previous model all-terrian Lamborghini LMA (http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/LM002/LMA/index.html) was made in 1982.

XR311 Combat Support Vehicle/Dune Buggy
http://www.meisterburg.com/xr311/images/calxr311.giv

http://www.meisterburg.com/xr311/images/xr311e011.jpg


Source: http://www.meisterburg.com/xr311/pages/gihotroad1.htm

For many years the old slow Jeep was just fine for the U.S. Army. But somewhere along the line they decided they wanted faster tactical vehicles. Along the way, they created new terminology for a vehicle that did not yet exist; the high mobility combat vehicle. That definition has changed a bit over the years, but back then it was for a rig that could haul butt into combat, have a quick look, maybe deliver a punch and then haul butt back out. It was capable of nearly any terrain and had a long range. All this transformed into the 1970 FMC- XR311.

The Army focused a great deal of attention on the small numbers of prototype XR311s built in various configurations from 1970 to 1978. FMC (Food Machinery Corporation) was into military contracts back in those days and they came up with a vehicle that nearly any four-wheeler would love to own.

The XR311 was built from the ground up for speed. It took many design ideas from the desert racing dune buggies of the day. In fact, many Army papers of the time referred to it as "an oversized dune buggy." Its backbone was a tubular frame that incorporated a passenger area safety cage. It had a long travel, independent suspension front and rear, full-time four-wheel drive, automatic transmission and a rear mounted Mopar 360 or 318cid four-barrel carburetor V8.

The tranny was the famous Chrysler Torqueflite 727 that was most often mated to a BW 1339 full-time 4-WD, chain drive t-case (AKA "Quadra-Trac"). It was not fitted with the detachable low-range box, but the center diff could be manually locked. Another variant had an FMC-built t-case that featured a Detroit Locker as a center diff. Both differentials were Dana 44 IFS models with 3.73:1 ratios, similar to those used in Corvettes. Trac-Lok limited slips were fitted at both ends. The independent suspension CV axles were identical to the front-wheel drive Olds Toronado and the suspension was a heavier duty version of the Olds setup. Eleven-inch disc brakes were mounted at all four corners.

Both 318s and 360s were fitted to the prototypes, but the smaller engine was more common. They used 4-bbl manifolds with specially modified Holley 600cfm dual feed carbs. Power for the 318 was rated at 187 net and torque was rated at 252 net lbs-ft at 3800rpm. A remote, high capacity air filter filtered out desert sand. A standard military 24-volt electrical system was used and the radiator was at the rear of the vehicle. Performance was fairly astounding for this 4,400 pound combat rig. Top speed was listed as either 80 or 90mph. It could do 0-60 in either 10.6 or 12 seconds, depending on whether it had a 360 or a 318. With 30 gallons of fuel it could go 300 miles on a tank. It could carry an extra 10 gallons in cans at the rear. It was rated to ford water 30 inches deep, traverse side slopes at 50 degrees and had 11 inches of ground clearance under its totally flat belly pan. Thor T-200, 8,000 pound electric winches were mounted on most of the prototypes.

Several versions were built, including a recon vehicle that mounted a .50 cal Browning heavy machine gun, an Anti-Armor vehicle that mounted either a TOW missile or a 106mm recoilless rifle, a Combat Control rig with high-tech radios and a Convoy Escort rig. The later models could also be fitted with a Crew Armor Kit that utilized special aluminum armor to stop small arms bullets.

The FMC XR-311 was built in three basic evolutions, the early square headlight model, of which just one or two were made in 1969-70, the so-called "shrouded headlight" version made till 1974 and the last type, made to at least 1978. The latter had a slightly different front end and open headlights protected by guards. Of the last two types, an unknown but fairly large number were made. There are indications that as many as 16 were built. At least one late prototype was fitted with a front mounted, air-cooled, Deutz V8 diesel.

This survivor below is a "shrouded headlight" version from 1971. Its one of a handful of surviving units in the hands of military collectors.
If the look this rig reminds you of something, the word "Hummer" should jog your memory. The original HUMMWV (High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle) of the early '80s, now known in the military as the HUMVEE, can trace it's roots to the early 1970s, and the FMC-built XR311.

http://www.meisterburg.com/xr311/images/xrgi1.gif
http://www.meisterburg.com/xr311/images/xrgi2.gif

Late in the 1970s, both Teledyne and AM General fielded entrants similar to the FMC unit in a program that eventually became the HUMVEE, and even later the civilian Hummer. The Teledyne model became the Lamborghini Cheetah that mounted a V-12 engine.

...and LAMBORGHINI CHEETAH:
http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Cheetah/cheetahspecb.jpg
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http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Cheetah/CheetahRear.gif

[MARINO]

At first it has many problems because of the engine, but they change it and they put a more powefull engine, and we can say than inow it is as good, or even better than hummer.

[Loco]

Tell your friend that he is completly wrong.
Better I prefer you tell him he´s wrong, because he isn´t my friend, I don´t know him. Other thing than that, Rebeco is not a clon of Humvee. This is not the place to explain what is a clon. They are different vehicles, even both of them have 4 wheels, yes, but when 2 things are differentes you can be quite sure they aren´t clons of each other. Neither Urovesa has licensed the making of the Rebeco nor have to pay any royalty of any kind since they are differents. What more must I explain? I´m afraid the only Humvees or Rebecos or Pizarros, like you wrote in other post before, you´ve seen are in Internet´s photos. I don´t understand how you can assert something when you haven´t the faintest idea about anything.

[REMOV]

Other thing than that, Rebeco is not a clon of Humvee.Yeah, sure. It is a vehicle based on HMMWV - it looks better for you? ;)

Neither Urovesa has licensed the making of the Rebeco nor have to pay any royalty of any kind since they are differents. Because of the VAMTAC (URO TT) it is not a licensed product but Spanish vehicle based on HMMWV. A clone in other words. Poland also made a clone of T-72M MBT called PT-91 or assault rifle based on AK-74 model called kbs wz. 96 Beryl. It isn't a shame to make own product based on well known models.

I´m afraid the only Humvees or Rebecos or Pizarros, like you wrote in other post before, you´ve seen are in Internet´s photos. So what? (BTW - I've never written a single word about Pizarro, you confused me with anyone else)

I don´t understand how you can assert something when you haven´t the faintest idea about anything.I wrote about the LM002 and the origins of the HMMWV. This guy you've quoted was wrong. It is really not my fault, you know ;) The Hummer isn't based on Lamborghini LM002, I assure you.

[[AFSOC]]

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Meh there's no originality to it....

Looks exactly like the Hummer, sure it may work and be efficient.....but it'd be nice if they designed a whole different one.

[Loco]

Excuse me sincerely if I confused you with other polish, but you are the second polish I read today talking about spanish military toys, and the third since I visit this forum, and in the three cases wrong. You know, is a good thing making statements only when you are sure you´re right. Really, as this continues on I can´t see the worth of talking of this subject. The Warsow Pact finished 10 years ago, it was other reality, now and here we are living the hard and competitive capitalist style of life. If you copy something you have to pay what is called "intelectual rights" or something similar, exactly what China don´t do when DOES COPY everything. I´ve read in this Forum an interview with Mr.Kalashnikov and he talked about all his inventions being manufactured in allied countries of former URSS without having him nor a pence. Well, things aren´t in that way anymore, except China of course. In the case of Spain, we lived a quite different reality than Poland lived, you simply can´t compare the rules of a communist society with the ones of today, we always had to pay the material we have, being spanish or foreign. And the Rebeco-VAMTAC IS NOT A CLON, have you understood? Different engines, different brakes, differentes chasis, differents differentials, differents change or marches or what the name of that being, etc. If Rebeco is a clon, an american company should put UROVESA in the court for stealing their designs. And the LeopardsII we´ve aren´t clons, are Leopards even if they are built in Spain because we didn´t designed them. Good night.
Edited:3RCR, really it looks like a Hummer, but the Hummer is a beautiful beast, when you can´t draw something more beautiful, why should you change it? But the internals of Rebeco have a new engineering. BTW, of course the Rebeco is efficient, actually, better than the Hummer, UROVESA learnt of the bad things of Hummer because they were built years later, and they saw their perfomance in the IGWar, it´s fair play telling this. UROVESA don´t pretend being the pioneer in this kind of vehicles, only making the bests and more advanced vehicles, and VAMTACS and others trucks made by UROVESA are really superbs ones.

[West]

Look Chinese car.

http://www.people.com.cn/media/200206/06/NewsMedia_184902.jpg

http://www.people.com.cn/media/200206/06/NewsMedia_184903.jpg

http://www.people.com.cn/media/200206/06/NewsMedia_184904.jpg

[Frens]

This is the Italian version of the HMMWV: the IVECO LMV. British Army bought 500 LMV

http://www.defesanet.com.br/rv/eurosatory/1/foto11.jpg

[REMOV]

http://www.people.com.cn/media/200206/06/NewsMedia_184902.jpgZhanshen (means in Chinese The God of War) made by Shenyang Aircraft Factory (SAC) part of Shenyang Aircraft Industry Group (SAIG)? ;)

[REMOV]

This is the Italian version of the HMMWV: the IVECO LMV. British Army bought 500 LMVNot exactly - British Army bought 486 Alvis-Iveco Multipurpose Light Vehicles (MLV) based on IVECO LMV.


Source: http://www.vickersdefence.co.uk/products/product_details.cfm?product_id=27

MLV is a family of light armoured 4x4 vehicles, designed to meet the rigorous demands of the modern battlefield. The vehicle utilises the latest state of the art automotive technology to ensure unrivalled reliability, and the fully independent suspension provides for exceptional class leading mobility.

The MLV is available as either fully armoured or soft skinned vehicle. The armouring system uses an innovative solution of appliqué armour panels that are placed between the inner and outer skins of the vehicle. This allows MLV to easily upgrade its armour protection to meet the mission requirements, and enables through life technology insertion to take advantage of new armour materials, as they become available. Protection systems from STANAG level 1 to STANAG level 4 are available for MLV. In addition every vehicle includes full mine protection for the crew.

MLV is available with an overhead weapon station, with day and night vision, and a range of different weapons to take on diverse mission scenarios. MLV can be network enabled through secure digital radio systems.

MLV has been designed with safety in mind. The vehicle will meet the stringent European road legislation for N2G class vehicles, one of the first military vehicles in its class to achieve this without major concessions against the regulations.

The MLV vehicle is based on the Iveco LMV vehicle for which there is a requirement in Italy for 2500 vehicles. MLV provides protected mobility for up to 4 people in the UK configuration, although the Italian version provides accommodation for 5 people, with a longer wheel base version providing protection for 7. This longer wheelbase option allows the family to expand and meet new requirements in the UK and overseas.

The UK MoD has recently selected AVL to supply 486 Alvis Multipurpose Light Vehicles (MLV) for the Future Command and Liaison Vehicle programme (FCLV). In this role, MLV will be used for a wide range of battlefield missions, with variants for infantry, artillery, armour, engineer and signals users, and will replace the ageing vehicles that are currently used in these roles. These include the Alvis Saxon, the Alvis Spartan, the Alvis FV430 series and unarmoured Land Rovers.

The FCLV programme will result in several prototypes being produced in the short term to complete the "demonstration phase" of the FCLV programme, which will run until 2005, followed by the series production of 486 vehicles, to be delivered between 2006 and 2009.

http://www.vickersdefence.co.uk/images/products/MLV14large.gif

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Source: http://www.sinodefence.com/army/transport/hmmwv.asp

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/transport/hmmmv_1.jpg
Dogfeng EQ2050

Impressed by the excellent performance and versatility of the the U.S. M998 series high mobility multipurpose wheeled vehicle (HMMWV), the Chinese automotive manufacturers are developing Chinese copies of this vehicle.

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/transport/hmmmv_2.jpg
SAC SQF2040 HMMWV hard-top personnel carrier

It is still not clear whether or not the PLA will be interested in such a vehicle, but the Army has been considering a replacement for the Beijing BJ212/2020 series 4-wheel drive jeeps in current service since the late 1990s. The PLA needs an indigenous second-generation 4 wheel-drive, high-mobility, lightweight, multipurpose vehicle with intended roles including reconnaissance, command, general personnel carrier, transport, tractor vehicle, as well as weapon platform for anti-tank and air defence missile system.

The Chinese versions of the HMMWV could fulfill all these requirements made by the PLA. The experience of the U.S. and some of its Asian allies in using the HMMWV has proven it to be a highly capable vehicle. However, there are still conflicting opinions within the military on the vehicle's suitability, fuel efficiency, and most importantly unit price and operation costs.

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/transport/hmmwv_3.jpg
DFM EQ2050 HMMWV soft-top troop carrier

The Shenyang Aircraft Industry Corporation (SAC) first revealed the SQF2040, its Chinese version of the HMMWV, in 2000. The vehicle features an indigenously developed turbo-charged diesel engine, a 5-speed manual gearbox, independent suspensions, and armour protections. The vehicle can be fitted with air conditioner, GPS, night vision equipment, vehicle-mounted radio communications, and various weapons. The vehicle also has a variety of configurations including troop/cargo carrier, armoured carrier, and shelter carrier.

The Dongfeng Motor Corporation (DFM) revealed its HMMWV version EQ2050 in Beijing Motor Show in 2002. The vehicle features a re-designed lights and radiator, and a Cummins 4B TA A 103 kW turbo-charged diesel, with a 5-speed gear box and a 2-speed transfer box. Unlike the SAC SFQ2040, the DFM EQ2050 utilises many components that imported from the U.S., which increases the vehicle's performance as well as unit price.

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/transport/hmmwv_4.jpg
SAC SQF2040 HMMWV hard-top personnel carrier

SPECIFICATIONS

---------------------SQF2040...........EQ2050
Seating..................1+4 .................1+4
Configuration..........4X4 .................4X4
Weight (empty).....2,437 kg.......... 2,950 kg
Maximum Load......1,135 kg.......... 1,750 kg
Towed Load...........1,500 kg...........2,000 kg
Length..................4.858 m.............4.970 m
Width....................2,150 m............2.134 m
Height...................1,860 m........... 1.916 m
Wheel Base............3.300 m........... 3.300 m
Track (front/rear)...1.820m/1.820m.. N/A
Max Speed............. 125 km/h......... 120 km/h
Gradient...................60%................. 60%
Fording...................0.76 m..............0.75 m
Fuel Capacity............94 Litre.............N/A
Maximum Range........580 km............N/A

[REMOV]

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http://www.military-wallpaper.com/-china/lu/010.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-12-21/1071988510China-HanMa1.jpg
http://bbs.china.com/images/2003-12-21/1072001617chenxingliang.jpg

More HMMWVs from China ;)

[city.if]

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[city.if]

I like HMMWV very much!

[MolliG]

The Japanese Toyota HMV t'is the coolest, especially with the Nihon Rikujyo Jieitai logo as a badge ;)...

http://www15.tok2.com/home/lttom/military-powers_jgsdf/other/hmv-005.jpg

http://www15.tok2.com/home/lttom/military-powers_jgsdf/other/kido01l.jpg

:P

[Farolo*]

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Saludos

[GTOGTS]

Interesting vehicles.

Can Someone tell me why some of the Photos don't show up for me? There is just a Red X where the Photo should be.

[khukuri]

nice stuff

[thunderw]

http://www.meisterburg.com/xr311/images/xr311e011.jpg

Pick up the ladies with that. p-)

[MARINO]

Interesting vehicles.

Can Someone tell me why some of the Photos don't show up for me? There is just a Red X where the Photo should be.
Old post, use the URL on the toobar.

[GTOGTS]

What URL, On What Toolbar? I don't Understand!

[AAV7]

I´m spanish but all i have to say is that I don´t like the Vamtac at all. I prefer the Humvee (not the Hummer as the H1 civilian version is called) over any other of the dozens of clones available worldwide (Including the exaggerated chinese PLA Hummer H1 copy). rofl :bash: