Greek minefields killing refugees

[TheKiwi]

From the BBC Website


Migrants risking Greek minefields
By Richard Galpin
BBC News, Athens

In the far north-eastern corner of Greece, along the sensitive border with Turkey, lie the killing fields of the European Union.
It is not known exactly how many people have died or been maimed in this region since the Greek army planted thousands of landmines 30 years ago.

But what is known is that the victims are not the invading Turkish troops that Greece once feared.

Instead, they are some of the world's most desperate - asylum-seekers and economic migrants from Africa, the Middle-East and Asia in search of protection or a better life in the EU.

Thirty-three-year-old Guma Nhdikumana, an asylum-seeker from Burundi, is one of many who have made the perilous crossing of the River Evros which marks the border.

He and two African friends paid Turkish smugglers $450 (347 euros or £236) to guide them to the crossing-point where they were told to turn left for Greece or right for Bulgaria once they reached the other side of the river.

It was a bleak winter's night.

"I didn't think there would be minefields in Greece, which is part of the EU," he says. "We didn't see any warnings because it was raining and foggy, so we just jumped over the fence."

One of his friends was killed instantly after treading on a landmine, the other died several hours later.

Civilian casualties

Guma himself was also injured by the blast and almost bled to death as he lay in the minefield for 14 hours waiting to be rescued by Greek troops. Doctors amputated his right leg shortly after he arrived at the local hospital...

Rest of the story at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4512677.stm

Naughty Greeks. What were you thinking, putting mines down? You might hurt someone. ;)

[theg]

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[flanker7]

I wont even bother to comment

[Werewolf01]

Hooray for us! We won a battle 552 years ago! Woohoo! woot

[achilles]

Naughty Greeks. What were you thinking, putting mines down? You might hurt someone

Last time i checked, landmines are supposed to be blowing up people p-)

It is true that the broader area of Evros is loaded with landmines, which is natural since the border line of Evros is the only piece of land where Turkey and Greece are geographically connected.

Sadly, many people, including Greek soldiers and farmers, have lost their lives there and inevitable many immigrands as well, while trying to cross our borders illegally.

There is a similar problem in our borders with Albania but to a far lesser extent. There are still many landmines there, which are leftovers from WWII and the Greek civil war.

[sierraone]

Tough for immigrants, tough for turks. By the way we know Istanbul is a ****hole since 1453. Constantinople was the most beautiful city in the world till then.

[achilles]

Tough for immigrants, tough for turks. By the way we know Istanbul is a ****hole since 1453. Constantinople was the most beautiful city in the world till then.

Why are you saying this?They DID builtd a bad copy of Aghia Sofia, cmon you are not being fair now p-)

[Erik2a4]

Just so I'm not confused, if you plant landmines on your own territory, and then people trying to cross the border illegally blow themselves up, it's morally wrong?

Uh, I hate to ask, but why is it morally wrong?

[achilles]

Just so I'm not confused, if you plant landmines on your own territory, and then people trying to cross the border illegally blow themselves up, it's morally wrong?

Uh, I hate to ask, but why is it morally wrong?

It is not. What is morally wrong is what the guys from accross the river do: smuggle them in for a few bucks and tell them that the road to 'happiness' has nothing else planted on but Greek roses.

[SerbPVO]

"Constantinople since 2053"

Watch and wait.

[Kontra1]

"Constantinople since 2053"

Watch and wait.

rofl What a joke! rofl ...and who will do that...your people?? Just come and get it...


Kontra1

[sierraone]

"Constantinople since 2053"

Watch and wait.

Serbia forever!!

[achilles]

"Constantinople since 2053"

Watch and wait.

Serbia forever!!

Πάλι με χρόνια με καιρούς... ;)

[Kontra1]

"Constantinople since 2053"

Watch and wait.

Serbia forever!!

We have a saying in Turkey for people like you and it goes like this;

"Don't **** your wife with someone else's ****" rofl

Ï'll say it the way you will understand...

"Molon Labe"

Kontra1

[achilles]

"Don't f*** your wife with someone else's ****"

Is this the cornerstone of 'Turkish Philosophy' 101? :lol:

[sierraone]

:lol: can't you just use vibrators in Turkey?

[achilles]

Ï'll say it the way you will understand...

"Molon Labe"

Kontra1

Why would you go crazy about this ****hole that our stupid Byzantine empire built centuries ago? Isnt this what you were claiming a couple of days ago? :lol:

[Adri]

Tough for immigrants, tough for turks. By the way we know Istanbul is a ****hole since 1453. Constantinople was the most beautiful city in the world till then.

Constantinople wasn't renamed Istambul before 1930 so in 1453 it was still Constantinople even if it was in the hands of the ottomans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantinople

[achilles]

Let me add that 'Instanbul' is a modification of the original Greek 'Constantinople', which actually means 'in the city' or 'to the city' i.e. 'is tin polin'='is-tan-bul'.

Deep down, everything is Greek :P

[Werewolf01]

Let me add that 'Instanbul' is a modification of the original Greek 'Constantinople', which actually means 'in the city' or 'to the city' i.e. 'is tin polin'='is-tan-bul'.

Deep down, everything is Greek :P


Shhhhh! You're going to disillusion the Persi....err...I mean the Turks.

[cigkufte]

Hey ****break (that you achilies) It kills you to see we still have Istanbul doesnt it? Well keep dreaming about taking it back because it aint gonna happen, especially not by faggot greeks

http://fotoalbum.e-kolay.net/gallery/cigkufte2/pictures/istanbul.JPG

[Kontra1]

Let me add that 'Instanbul' is a modification of the original Greek 'Constantinople', which actually means 'in the city' or 'to the city' i.e. 'is tin polin'='is-tan-bul'.

Deep down, everything is Greek :P

Depends how deep we're speaking of :lol:

Kontra1


"400-year occupation of Greek lands by the Turks and the inevitable ethnic impact. It has already been noted that in the early part of the nineteenth century the population of Athens was about one-third Turk. "Auberon Waugh ... wrote in The Daily Telegraph that the Greeks of today, with hairy popos, flat noses and bushy eyebrows, are clearly a race of Turkish descent and have nothing to do with the Greeks of antiquity sculpted on the Elgin marbles."

rofl

[Werewolf01]

I am simply waiting to hear how it wasn't really the Greeks who are almost solely responsible for the foundations of Western Civilization as we know it, but the Turks..... :cantbeli:

Greece has given us everything from thought, drama, reason, and humor to battle formations that changed little until the demise of black powder. Nobody else, not even the Roman Empire, that merely extended the limits of Greek thought can say that. p-)

[cigkufte]

I am simply waiting to hear how it wasn't really the Greeks who are almost solely responsible for the foundations of Western Civilization as we know it, but the Turks..... :cantbeli:

Greece has given us everything from thought, drama, reason, and humor to battle formations that changed little until the demise of black powder. Nobody else, not even the Roman Empire, that merely extended the limits of Greek thought can say that. p-)


You are so right. Greeks also discovered ***. But it was Romans that discovered to have *** with opposite *** =. woot woot

[Kontra1]

I am simply waiting to hear how it wasn't really the Greeks who are almost solely responsible for the foundations of Western Civilization as we know it, but the Turks..... :cantbeli:

Greece has given us everything from thought, drama, reason, and humor to battle formations that changed little until the demise of black powder. Nobody else, not even the Roman Empire, that merely extended the limits of Greek thought can say that. p-)

I don't know who this qestion is directed to,but I never disgussed something against it.Having said that, I hope you're wise egough to accept the eastern cultures's contribution to the world civilization.

Kontra1

[achilles]

Hey ****break (that you achilies) It kills you to see we still have Istanbul doesnt it? Well keep dreaming about taking it back because it aint gonna happen, especially not by faggot greeks

Bah, he is a baby, i should have known :oops: Are you writing all this by yourself or does mommy give you a hand? :lol:


You are so right. Greeks also discovered ***. But it was Romans that discovered to have *** with opposite ***

And what was left to be found was *** with goats, sheep, cats, dogs or any other domesticated animal. The Ottomans filled in that gap. Most likely you are the outcome of an unfortunate ****** discourse between a turkish sheppard and a male goat...nature is full of surprises you know :lol:


Depends how deep we're speaking of

I leave that up to you. You should know all about depth...just ask your lubricated sphincter ;)



400-year occupation of Greek lands by the Turks and the inevitable ethnic impact. It has already been noted that in the early part of the nineteenth century the population of Athens was about one-third Turk. "Auberon Waugh ... wrote in The Daily Telegraph that the Greeks of today, with hairy popos, flat noses and bushy eyebrows, are clearly a race of Turkish descent and have nothing to do with the Greeks of antiquity sculpted on the Elgin marbles.

Where did you get that from? Hurryiet? Or maybe Choc?


The two of you remind me of this typical kind of idiot who has been shafted a number of times in any point he's tried to make, but he is still barking like a sexless bitch in a desparate attempt to be heard. :lol:

Kontra, you have further consolidated that you are not the brightest in your family ;)

Kofte, you actually shown what a KOFTE :lol: you are for a teenager( a bit older maybe?) freak. I would presume that soon your lubricated Ottoman ass who is having fun in the United States will be banned, as it has been already banned by a good number of forums thus far.

AOOUYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU:
http://www.camptimberwolf.com/images/wolfy.jpg

[achilles]

I don't know who this qestion is directed to,but I never disgussed something against it.Having said that, I hope you're wise egough to accept the eastern cultures's contribution to the world civilization.

As you have never said anything FOR it :lol:

Emmm...hold on a sec...lets not confuse 'Eastern culture' with 'Ottoman "culture"'. The former is one thing, the latter is simply a small part of it. True, the Chinese, Indians and Japanese contributed with their profound philosophy and general way of thinking, just to name one thing. Can you refresh my memory on what was the Ottoman empire's vast contribution to the world civilization? Apart from rugs, kebab, and 1000+1 methods to hump a male buttock, that is. ;)

My question is serious...

[cigkufte]

Hey ****break (that you achilies) It kills you to see we still have Istanbul doesnt it? Well keep dreaming about taking it back because it aint gonna happen, especially not by faggot greeks

Bah, he is a baby, i should have known :oops: Are you writing all this by yourself or does mommy give you a hand? :lol:




AOOUYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU:
http://www.camptimberwolf.com/images/wolfy.jpg

Not mine but your mama gives me a great handjob while I'm writing these meseeges. She does a superb job.

I'm glad to see you are familiar with wolfs, after all you heard them all after everytime you guys act a fool.

PS: You are right about the 400 year thing. It should be roughly 1000 years since we kicked you outta Anatolia in 1071. Do the math:)

[achilles]

http://fotoalbum.e-kolay.net/gallery/cigkufte2/pictures/istanbul.JPG

Yippieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee woot

[cigkufte]

http://fotoalbum.e-kolay.net/gallery/cigkufte2/pictures/istanbul.JPG

Yippieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee woot

HAHAHAHA Nasil sike sike ogrettik ama. Oh God! I knew you'd recognize. That's right boiy, better learn faster next time.

[achilles]

Not mine but your mama gives me a great handjob while I'm writing these meseeges. She does a superb job.

Meseeges? And you were giving Clearday lectures on English, boy? :lol: Your extremely flawed english gives the following hint: you are getting pissed. ;)

I'm glad to see you are familiar with wolfs, after all you heard them all after everytime you guys act a fool.

If you are glad, your mom is glad and this means that i am glad :lol:

PS: You are right about the 400 year thing. It should be roughly 1000 years since we kicked you outta Anatolia in 1071. Do the math:)

Go to your library tomorrow morning and pick up any good book on the history of Near-East. That might take some grease out of your brain and eyes.

Hey Screetch. Arent you supposed to be studying for finals?? To your room! Now! :bash:



Keep up the good posting, screetch :D

[Laworkerbee]

I've heard this is an old Greek saying

"man for pleasure, women for babies"

True? rofl

[achilles]

I've heard this is an old Greek saying

"man for pleasure, women for babies"

True? rofl

Ask the Turks, they sure know how to treat women :lol:

What Greeks say sometimes is that men are supposed to be having fun while women are supposed to stay home and raise the kids. Its a good way to provoke the female department of the company p-)

[Kontra1]

I've heard this is an old Greek saying

"man for pleasure, women for babies"

True? rofl

Ask the Turks, they sure know how to treat women :lol:

Interesting how Turks get blamed for everthing by greeks...including their pervert traditions... :roll:


Kontra1

[cigkufte]

I've heard this is an old Greek saying

"man for pleasure, women for babies"

True? rofl

Ask the Turks, they sure know how to treat women :lol:

Interesting how Turks get blamed for everthing by greeks...including their pervert traditions... :roll:


Kontra1

Real good point

[PELASGOS]

Many refugees were killed because turkish smugglers-guides working

for turkish military send them on purpose in those areas to find which

minefields are active and inactive.


<< Oi τούρκο είναι θεριά , δεν είναι ανθρώποι.

Για πολλοστή φορά σηκώσου ,το τρισένδοξο θέλει ριζικό σου,

θεριά να σφάξεις που τα θρέφει η Ευρώπη>>

Μαβίλης 1897

[LongDongSilver]

These aren't refugees, their ILLEGAL inmigrants. Lets keep this clear.

[achilles]

I've heard this is an old Greek saying

"man for pleasure, women for babies"

True? rofl

Ask the Turks, they sure know how to treat women :lol:

Interesting how Turks get blamed for everthing by greeks...including their pervert traditions... :roll:


Kontra1

You are most likely using an old-definition of perversion...probably stemming from the middle-ages ;) . Try to read something decent about homo******ity in the ancient times. Judging it by today's standards is moronic, at best ;) . Thats not very tough to grasp now is it?


<< Oi τούρκο είναι θεριά , δεν είναι ανθρώποι.

Για πολλοστή φορά σηκώσου ,το τρισένδοξο θέλει ριζικό σου,

θεριά να σφάξεις που τα θρέφει η Ευρώπη>>

Μαβίλης 1897

Καλά τα έλεγε ο Μαβίλης, φίλε μου Πελασγέ ;)

[cigkufte]

I've heard this is an old Greek saying

"man for pleasure, women for babies"

True? rofl

Ask the Turks, they sure know how to treat women :lol:

Interesting how Turks get blamed for everthing by greeks...including their pervert traditions... :roll:


Kontra1
You are most likely using an old-definition of perversion...probably stemming from the middle-ages ;) . Try to read something decent about homo******ity in the ancient times. Judging it by today's standards is moronic, at best ;) . Thats not very tough to grasp now is it?


<< Oi τούρκο είναι θεριά , δεν είναι ανθρώποι.

Για πολλοστή φορά σηκώσου ,το τρισένδοξο θέλει ριζικό σου,

θεριά να σφάξεις που τα θρέφει η Ευρώπη>>

Μαβίλης 1897

Καλά τα έλεγε ο Μαβίλης, φίλε μου Πελασγέ ;)

You are the lowest level of a human to be...

You have no respect for human life. What could I expect from a greek

[achilles]

You are the lowest level of a human to be...

You have no respect for human life. What could I expect from a greek

I love it when i piss you off :D

[cigkufte]

You are the lowest level of a human to be...

You have no respect for human life. What could I expect from a greek

I love it when i piss you off :D

Grow up or better, get a life loseeeeeerrr hahahaha

[Werewolf01]

Let's not forget how the Turks exteneded the limits of pedastry. Some people would consider that a contributin of sorts I guess...

[Kontra1]

I've heard this is an old Greek saying

"man for pleasure, women for babies"

True? rofl

Ask the Turks, they sure know how to treat women :lol:

Interesting how Turks get blamed for everthing by greeks...including their pervert traditions... :roll:


Kontra1

You are most likely using an old-definition of perversion...probably stemming from the middle-ages ;) . Try to read something decent about homo******ity in the ancient times. Judging it by today's standards is moronic, at best ;) . Thats not very tough to grasp now is it?

All I know is that you guys are very much attached to your traditions today...even the ancient ones :lol:

Kontra1

[achilles]

You are the lowest level of a human to be...

You have no respect for human life. What could I expect from a greek

I love it when i piss you off :D

Grow up or better, get a life loseeeeeerrr hahahaha

Hey look at him...he is smiling again woot


All I know is that you guys are very much attached to your traditions today...even the ancient ones

Oh well...are you talking about homo******ity again? *yawn*

;)

[Kontra1]

Oh well...are you talking about homo******ity again? *yawn* ;)

no..not me man..it's the Laworkerbee who brought up the fact about your strong traditions... :lol:


Kontra1

[ibstolidude]

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