View Full Version : Israeli military man..a neo-nazi!
sierraone
05-05-2005, 04:33 PM
'An Israeli military man, inhabitant of the Ariel settlement in the West Bank, was arrested as a suspect for relations with neo-nazi organizations abroad. The announcement of this unheard off arrest takes place at a time that Israel and the Jewish community honour the memory of six million Jews exterminated by the Nazis during World War II, on the occasion of the Holocaust Remembrance Day and today’s March of Living in Auschwitz. "The military man arrested today had a tattoo of a swastika and after an investigation in his house it was found that he had contacts with neo-nazi organizations abroad," stated a Israeli police spokesperson for the West Bank, making clear that the police handed him over to the Military Police.'
American Patriot
05-05-2005, 04:42 PM
:oops:
Soldier suspected of being neo-Nazi
By MARGOT DUDKEVITCH AND HILARY LEILA KRIEGER
An IDF soldier baring a tattooed swastika on his left arm who admitted to maintaining contacts with neo-Nazi groups abroad, was arrested in Ariel on Wednesday night by Judea and Samaria Police.
His mother was also detained for questioning after she admitted her hatred for Israel and expressed support for neo-Nazis. The two immigrated to Israel from a Soviet Union country four years ago.
The soldier, 20, who serves as a driver in a non-combat unit, was in possession of what police suspect is heroine when he was arrested after his behavior aroused their suspicion.
Taken to the local police station, he expressed to investigators his sheer hatred for Israel and that he belonged to neo-Nazi groups abroad with whom he maintained contact.
Searching his home, police discovered additional drugs and also confiscated his computer, which contained evidence of his alleged ties and correspondence with the neo Nazi groups. It was there his mother expressed her anti-Israeli sentiments and also declared her support for Nazi groups and was then detained.
On Thursday, the soldier was handed over to military police for questioning. The army said the soldier is being investigated for his use of drugs and also for his alleged affiliation to neo-Nazi groups. Once the investigation is complete, the findings will be handed over to the Military Prosecutor for review.
Suspicious that the two entered Israel with forged documents, Israel Police asked the Interior Ministry's Population Registrar to investigate. An Interior Ministry spokeswoman said the matter is under review but that no conclusions have been reached.
She stressed that the investigation has nothing to do with the soldier's purported Nazi sympathies, and that the office "has to check it very carefully because it is an issue of citizenship."
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1115259521178
he's a self hating Jew, lol
this ****ing guy!
must've been hard for this guy, its like you being a diabetic, and working in a candy store. dumb bastard
Sayeret
05-05-2005, 04:55 PM
he's a self hating Jew, lol
Where does it say that he's Jewish?
Drako
05-05-2005, 04:55 PM
:lol: They arrested him just because he is a jackass? Seriously, what crime did he commit?
In some countries nazism or spreading it is a crime. I wish that in here they arrested every nazi jackass (now they can be arrested only if they are spreading it I think).
American Patriot
05-05-2005, 04:57 PM
Yeah, I thought he was a civilian but since he's in the military it obviously makes sense.
sierraone
05-05-2005, 04:59 PM
I wouldn't know if he is jewish or not. Maybe our israeli friends can inform us if what is the ethnic/religious profile of the IDF. What is definite is he is serving in the wrong country!
Would someone be able to immigrate to Israel from an ex-Soviet country if he wasn't jewish?
Sayeret
05-05-2005, 05:04 PM
I wouldn't know if he is jewish or not. Maybe our israeli friends can inform us if what is the ethnic/religious profile of the IDF. What is definite is he is serving in the wrong country!
Would someone be able to immigrate to Israel from an ex-Soviet country if he wasn't jewish?
I believe Jews, Druids, and Christians serve in the Israeli military.
Stormy
05-05-2005, 05:11 PM
Infiltration!?!?!?
I wouldn't know if he is jewish or not. Maybe our israeli friends can inform us if what is the ethnic/religious profile of the IDF. What is definite is he is serving in the wrong country!
Would someone be able to immigrate to Israel from an ex-Soviet country if he wasn't jewish?
From the article I posted:
Suspicious that the two entered Israel with forged documents, Israel Police asked the Interior Ministry's Population Registrar to investigate. An Interior Ministry spokeswoman said the matter is under review but that no conclusions have been reached.
She stressed that the investigation has nothing to do with the soldier's purported Nazi sympathies, and that the office "has to check it very carefully because it is an issue of citizenship."
In other words, these people hate Jews but they want to live in our country...
AROUETLJ
05-05-2005, 06:59 PM
I believe Jews, Druids, and Christians serve in the Israeli military. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DRUZE
alexz
05-05-2005, 07:44 PM
I wouldn't know if he is jewish or not. Maybe our israeli friends can inform us if what is the ethnic/religious profile of the IDF. What is definite is he is serving in the wrong country!
Would someone be able to immigrate to Israel from an ex-Soviet country if he wasn't jewish?
Israel's "law of return" states that anyone who is Jewish or even 1/8 Jew
can immigrate and become citizen. There are also generous benefits
that immigrants from poorere countries get and they can amount in
handout of thousands of Dollars. With the massive wave of Soviet Jewry immigration came many criminals and others that faked documents and
got their bonuses which they used to pay lawyers to get them to North America. There are thousands of soldiers in Israel that were Crosses
or Muslims in the IDF today an most of them are great guys and some
died defeding the country. Ignorant idiots like that soldier and his
mother that is proud of her nazi son;are the bottom of the barrel of
the society they came from. Sadly they ruin the reputation of hundreads of thousands of educated hard working immigrants.
olowy
05-06-2005, 04:36 AM
:lol: They arrested him just because he is a jackass? Seriously, what crime did he commit?
In some countries nazism or spreading it is a crime. I wish that in here they arrested every nazi jackass (now they can be arrested only if they are spreading it I think).
Plus drugs. Also since he is in the military he might be considered a security risk.
sierraone
05-06-2005, 04:50 AM
Funnily enough spreading Islam in Europe is not a crime..and nazism is dead anyway. One of the oxymorons of our liberal societies.
PigSnake
05-06-2005, 05:00 AM
I believe Jews, Druids, and Christians serve in the Israeli military.
already been pointed out, sorry
PigSnake
05-06-2005, 05:27 AM
what really puzzles me is how this neo-nazi could face living in the "belly of the beast".
i guess an explanation could be that he must have been dirt poor and also at least 1/8th jewish entitling him to take advantage of israel's generous law of return laws.
but still, i question his integrity (from a purely academic point of view......i despise nazis with all my heart, mind, body and soul).
i think israel needs to be a little more selective on who they are letting in....
ps.
I think this phenomenon is well know in Israel...there are thousnds of nom jews immigrants that came to Israel from Former Soviet Union just for the law of return rights.
me personaly i know 1 nazi in my city.....and the sad thing is even in my city you can see in parks and so on swastika. :(
I think this phenomenon is well know in Israel...there are thousnds of nom jews immigrants that came to Israel from Former Soviet Union just for the law of return rights.
The government should investigate the possibility of sending those arriving under false documentation/pretences back to where they come from, especially these parasitic ingrates mentioned in the news piece.
Navor
05-06-2005, 06:36 AM
How can you serve a country that you hate?
sierraone
05-06-2005, 07:18 AM
It reminds me of the american soldier that killed 2 of his colleagues because he was a muslim and didn't want to go to war against fellow muslims.
Moledet
05-06-2005, 07:43 AM
I think this phenomenon is well know in Israel...there are thousnds of nom jews immigrants that came to Israel from Former Soviet Union just for the law of return rights.
The government should investigate the possibility of sending those arriving under false documentation/pretences back to where they come from, especially these parasitic ingrates mentioned in the news piece.
Maybe in a few years, right now the police is too busy with terrorists and foreign workers.
But I do support beating any Nazi to death in case you meet one on the street (even if he just looks at you), that's self-defence.
As I said in another thread:
IMO, he should be executed as the Israeli law say (there's a death pentalty here for being a Nazi).
His family should be transfered back to Russia and their house should be sold and used to pay for all the funding they got from the state as newcomers.
Javehn
05-06-2005, 07:43 AM
How can you serve a country that you hate?
After the Soviet Union collapsed and it's economy went to shayze , many people looked for a way to escape from the Soviet Union . Many people suddenly remembered that they're grundma's uncle's second cousin's father is 1/4 Jew and used the law of return (which is stupid IMHO at that point and should be more strict) , or false documents saying they are jews (to recieve false documents in Russia is nothing more then Vodka bottle) . Some managed to get USA visa by marring Americans , some managed to go to Canada , some managed to find relatives in Germany ... Some managed to escape to Israel , even if they have nothing to do with jews . Some are atheist , some Cristians , non is jew . Many of them hate Jews and Israel , but just don't want to go back to Russia . They is the reason for the "racial profiling" rabinat does as it was "gratiosly" pointed out by one of the forum members .
They have to serve as a conscripts (well , they did used the pretence of being jews to get citizenship , so they have to serve) .
PigSnake
05-06-2005, 09:13 AM
and he lived in Ariel settlement bloc?!?!!!!
ie: living with real-life jews, not just plain secular israelis....
just goes to prove that being a nazi does not equal having a brain
:cantbeli:
sierraone
05-06-2005, 10:39 AM
Well being a nazi not only means you are brainless but dangerous as well. In Europe it means also you don't have a job or a girlfriend.
As I said in another thread:
IMO, he should be executed as the Israeli law say (there's a death pentalty here for being a Nazi).
No, the law says that Nazi war criminals get the death penalty, and it's suffice to say that a 20 year old kid can't be a Nazi war criminal.
and he lived in Ariel settlement bloc?!?!!!!
ie: living with real-life jews, not just plain secular israelis....
just goes to prove that being a nazi does not equal having a brain
:cantbeli:
Actually most people in Ariel are secular.
Ariel is very much a Jerusalem suburb... a lot of people go to live there because the government provides all sorts of incentives.
Makes sense as the mother of this idiot (who also claimes to be an anti-Semite) said that the reason they came to live in Israel in the first place was the special incentives given to immigrants.
Just what we need... anti-Semitic parasites coming to live here, put them on the next plane to the Baltics!
OldRecon
05-06-2005, 12:14 PM
Funnily enough spreading Islam in Europe is not a crime..and nazism is dead anyway. One of the oxymorons of our liberal societies.
Honestly I don't think you find all that many converts to Islam among the part of the population in Europe that's neither 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation of immigrants from the Mid-East or other areas with strong Islamic communities like Nigeria, Indonesia or Malaysia :lol:.
At least not for as long the Al Qaida method of "spreading" Islam is on the vouge :|.
As for the Nazis, though I have no love lost for them, I don't believe in making being a nazi a criminal offence. Keeping a watch on 'em, and making being a nazi a risk factor, when it comes to security clearances, appears to work well enough in my country at least.
Himmler: "it is our decision who is Jew"
Jews/Israelis: "it is our decision who is antisemitic" (or "nazi" etc)...
citizen-k
05-06-2005, 02:15 PM
and he lived in Ariel settlement bloc?!?!!!!
ie: living with real-life jews, not just plain secular israelis....
just goes to prove that being a nazi does not equal having a brain
:cantbeli:
Right.
citizen-k
05-06-2005, 02:17 PM
and he lived in Ariel settlement bloc?!?!!!!
ie: living with real-life jews, not just plain secular israelis....
just goes to prove that being a nazi does not equal having a brain
:cantbeli:
Actually most people in Ariel are secular.
Ariel is very much a Jerusalem suburb... a lot of people go to live there because the government provides all sorts of incentives.
Makes sense as the mother of this idiot (who also claimes to be an anti-Semite) said that the reason they came to live in Israel in the first place was the special incentives given to immigrants.
Just what we need... anti-Semitic parasites coming to live here, put them on the next plane to the Baltics!
Using the word parasites while talking about Nazis is not a smart move.
"Idiots" would do just fine.
FutureGrunt
05-06-2005, 02:32 PM
Maybe in a few years, right now the police is too busy with terrorists and foreign workers.
But I do support beating any Nazi to death in case you meet one on the street (even if he just looks at you), that's self-defence.
As I said in another thread:
IMO, he should be executed as the Israeli law say (there's a death pentalty here for being a Nazi).
His family should be transfered back to Russia and their house should be sold and used to pay for all the funding they got from the state as newcomers.
Holy sh*t. And this is coming from a mouth of of a Holocaust survivor descendant? How about you go further and make all non-jews in Israel wear a cross or cresent and make them live in reservations? Hell, you already made a first step by erecting a wall to protect you from those Arab untermensch. Just remember what goes around, comes around.
Using the word parasites while talking about Nazis is not a smart move.
Well that's just what these people are as they came to Israel in order to live off the government... in additionan to being idiots.
I don't understand what's wrong with what I wrote and you seem to be the only one to find anything wrong.
W(M)D
05-06-2005, 02:41 PM
Parasites for sure!! There are plenty more of those guys out there.
citizen-k
05-06-2005, 02:41 PM
Using the word parasites while talking about Nazis is not a smart move.
Well that's just what these people are as they came to Israel in order to live off the government... in additionan to being idiots.
I don't understand what's wrong with what I wrote and you seem to be the only one to find anything wrong.
It's not wrong and understood exactly what you ment, but still - using the same language they use make it less severe hearing it from them.
Being a Nazi is bad enough, every other "description" only makes it look better.
Holy sh*t. And this is coming from a mouth of of a Holocaust survivor descendant? How about you go further and make all non-jews in Israel wear a cross or cresent and make them live in reservations?
You are an idiot... did Moledet even say anything about non Jews in general? No, only about Nazi simpathizers.
Although I don't agree with Moledet (as the death penalty is only reseved for Nazi war criminals and not for stupid punks like the guy mentioned in the article).
Hell, you already made a first step by erecting a wall to protect you from those Arab untermensch.
More proof that you are an idiot... it never occurred to you that building the barrier has something to do with the targeting of civilians by Palestinian terrorist organizations?
The fact that you are ignorant enough to write these things about a country that provides its Arab citizens with more rights than any Arab state could ever provide them makes it all clear rofl
Being a Nazi is bad enough, every other "description" only makes it look better.
I get you... :)
FutureGrunt
05-06-2005, 03:16 PM
Holy sh*t. And this is coming from a mouth of of a Holocaust survivor descendant? How about you go further and make all non-jews in Israel wear a cross or cresent and make them live in reservations?
You are an idiot... did Moledet even say anything about non Jews in general? No, only about Nazi simpathizers.
Although I don't agree with Moledet (as the death penalty is only reseved for Nazi war criminals and not for stupid punks like the guy mentioned in the article).
Well his comments about "nazi sympathizers" were pretty harsh. Kill him, send his family to a different country, sell his house (might as well burn it). Reminds you of any actions 60 years ago you racist prick? Oh and explain to me what is "nazi sympathizers"??
More proof that you are an idiot... it never occurred to you that building the barrier has something to do with the targeting of civilians by Palestinian terrorist organizations?
The fact that you are ignorant enough to write these things about a country that provides its Arab citizens with more rights than any Arab state could ever provide them makes it all clear rofl
Reeeeaaaallllyyyy???? Wow everybody, Israel is number one provider of Arab rights in the whole universe!1111!!!
No wander I see mass immigration of Arabs to Israel, lines of them trying to sneak into Israel, not to mention how safe it is in Israel becouse no arab would blow him or herself up becouse they got ALL the rights already and they are happy to live in Israel!
That is the most dumb piece of propaganda I've heard in a while, and still doesnt hide the fact that your friend Moledet is a racist pig. :bash:
Where's Jani? I'm sure he'll explain to us that was a good-luck-ancient-non-nazi swastika rofl
Well his comments about "nazi sympathizers" were pretty harsh.
Yeah, you tend to be harsh with people who see the murder of six million people from your nation as a glorious chapter in history and something that should be repeated...
:bash:
Reminds you of any actions 60 years ago you racist prick?
Not even close...
For it to be remotely similar we would have to cause great suffering to this person and his family, then kill this person and his family (all the members of the family) and not leave a single trace left of them. Oh and also take all their property, also harvest their hair and any gold fillings in their teath that they might have.
Also all this would be done based on the fact that he was born and not because of something he believes in order for it to resemble what happend 60 years ago.
BTW, since when is hating anti-Semitics considered racism? :cantbeli:
Oh and explain to me what is "nazi sympathizers"??
Read what I wrote in the first part of my post...
No wander I see mass immigration of Arabs to Israel,
If we would allow Arabs to immigrate into Israel we would be an Arab state by now, we are not interested in this.
lines of them trying to sneak into Israel
Actually a lot of them try to do so through marrige to an Arab person who already holds an Israeli citizenship.
not to mention how safe it is in Israel becouse no arab would blow him or herself up becouse they got ALL the rights already and they are happy to live in Israel!
These people aren't Israeli Arabs if you haven't noticed (they live under the PA) and they don't give two ****s about human life, so you think they would care if Israel provides rights to its Arab citizens?
Yeah I'm sure the people in Hamas and Islamic Jihad believe in democracy and civil rights... rofl
You are really pathetic...
That is the most dumb piece of propaganda I've heard in a while
Ok, if what I say is not true...
Can an Arab vote in any Arab country as they can in Israel?
Can an Arab protest against the goverment as they can in Israel?
Is there a single Arab country where homo******ity isn't against the law as in Israel?
Is there a single Arab country where there aren't laws that restrict women's rights?
Look into this and then tell me that what I write is propaganda.
and still doesnt hide the fact that your friend Moledet is a racist pig
:lol: Hating racists is racism... you have made my day.
Reeeeaaaallllyyyy???? Wow everybody, Israel is number one provider of Arab rights in the whole universe!1111!!!
Err, technically it is. Arabs can't vote in Arab countries, yet they can in Israel, Arabs don't have free speech in Arab countries yet they do in Israel...
Also, lots of exclamation marks don't make your point come across that much better.
Moledet
05-06-2005, 07:09 PM
It's nice to find out that I'm a racist since I support beating neo-nazis (or people that would literaly pay to kill me) to death.
And as far as I know the law says Nazis, and not Nazi war criminals.
FutureGrunt
05-06-2005, 07:35 PM
It's nice to find out that I'm a racist since I support beating neo-nazis (or people that would literaly pay to kill me) to death.
And as far as I know the law says Nazis, and not Nazi war criminals.
Ok to clear up this quarrel before some dumbass jumps on a wagon again and starts to declare that Israel is the best thing that happened to Arabs since the sliced bread (Only thing is they forgot to ask Arabs their opinion, but its only minor right?)
So sir I do think you're a racisit, and a chauvinist
Heres your exact words:
But I do support beating any Nazi to death in case you meet one on the street (even if he just looks at you), that's self-defence.
As I said in another thread:
IMO, he should be executed as the Israeli law say (there's a death pentalty here for being a Nazi).
His family should be transfered back to Russia and their house should be sold and used to pay for all the funding they got from the state as newcomers.
My standing ovations to you as a representative of a nation that almost persished and should be thankfull to other for saving they butts. You should be first screaming "never again" yet you're propaganding extermination based on looks or beliefes. Despicable!
As to clear me of any future accusations: I'm not Nazi nor supporter nor sympathizer.
Moledet
05-06-2005, 07:42 PM
It's nice to find out that I'm a racist since I support beating neo-nazis (or people that would literaly pay to kill me) to death.
And as far as I know the law says Nazis, and not Nazi war criminals.
Ok to clear up this quarrel before some dumbass jumps on a wagon again and starts to declare that Israel is the best thing that happened to Arabs since the sliced bread (Only thing is they forgot to ask Arabs their opinion, but its only minor right?)
So sir I do think you're a racisit, and a chauvinist
Heres your exact words:
But I do support beating any Nazi to death in case you meet one on the street (even if he just looks at you), that's self-defence.
As I said in another thread:
IMO, he should be executed as the Israeli law say (there's a death pentalty here for being a Nazi).
His family should be transfered back to Russia and their house should be sold and used to pay for all the funding they got from the state as newcomers.
My standing ovations to you as a representative of a nation that almost persished and should be thankfull to other for saving they butts. You should be first screaming "never again" yet you're propaganding extermination based on looks or beliefes. Despicable!
As to clear me of any future accusations: I'm not Nazi nor supporter nor sympathizer.
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl I can't see how that makes me a chauvinist.
I support his death in misery since he's a neo-nazi, if you don't know this people support the killing of Jews until their total anahilation.
If he'd like to kill me, why wouldn't I like to kill him?
As for kicking his fanily out, that's because they are ilegal immigrants, they forged documents to enter Israel, they should get their ass in jail for few years and then get kicked out.
As for selling the home, every immigrant to Israel gets benefits and money from the government, since they used this money to buy their home the country should get a full refund.
FutureGrunt
05-06-2005, 07:47 PM
yawn
alexz
05-06-2005, 10:49 PM
[quote="FutureGrunt"]
Ok to clear up this quarrel before some dumbass jumps on a wagon again
and starts to declare that Israel is the best thing that happened to Arabs
since the sliced bread (Only thing is they forgot to ask Arabs their
opinion, but its only minor right?)
[quote]
The only way Israel asks it's citizens either Jews, Muslims or Christians
is at the polls. And the arab citizens answeared with this charchters.
http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/eng/mk_eng.asp?mk_individual_id_t=29
http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/eng/mk_eng.asp?mk_individual_id_t=36
http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/eng/mk_eng.asp?mk_individual_id_t=218
http://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/eng/mk_eng.asp?mk_individual_id_t=208
So how many Christian or Jewish MPs in the Egyptian or Saudi government?
And as far as I know the law says Nazis, and not Nazi war criminals.
Well you don't know much then, do you? Honestly, cut the Internet tough guy crap, it really doesn't make us other Israelis look good.
So sir I do think you're a racisit, and a chauvinist
Nazism is not a race, it's an ideology. Also good job on the "not racist" part, because I was really starting to think that you might have something going on there! :roll:
PigSnake
05-07-2005, 05:04 AM
No wander I see mass immigration of Arabs to Israel, lines of them trying to sneak into Israel,
well, actually: "The Hell of Israel Is Better than the Paradise of Arafat"
(http://http://www.meforum.org/article/702)
No wander I see mass immigration of Arabs to Israel, lines of them trying to sneak into Israel,
well, actually: "The Hell of Israel Is Better than the Paradise of Arafat"
(http://http://www.meforum.org/article/702)
Good article...
gilgoul
05-07-2005, 05:27 AM
wHAT IS ALL THE FUSS ABOUT?
Seriously, some dumbass got himself in trouble to a drug related affair, while investigating the asshole, the MP finds out the dude holds neo nazi ideology, and is active in neo nazi rings, wich is a crime in Israel. (understandably).
While seizing his computer and talking with his mom, they find out that she is too active within neo nazi circles, therefore she is placed under investigation.
This is not the first time people have been taking advantage of the law of return for economic or other reasons far from recomandable.
If it is prooved that the family got in Israel under fake documents, they should be prosecuted as said in the law, no more, no less.
What is funny and ridiculous is to think of this guy hating Israel so much, but still being serving, lethal contradiction, but it is not the first punk I heard off.
About non jews serving in the IDF, it is a common thing, since every resident of the state beside ultra religious and arabs (calling themselves "Palestinians of 48") are supposed to serve both active and reserve duty.
When I swore my oath, me on the Torah, many guys of my unit did it on the new testament or the koran. (did the jackass swore on Mein Kampf, that is the funny question).
PigSnake
05-07-2005, 05:39 AM
thank you! :hug:
i guess that every post concerning israel or jews inevitably turns into a flamewar....im sure the must be some kind of netiquette law describing that....
Jani.R
05-07-2005, 06:14 AM
Where's Jani? I'm sure he'll explain to us that was a good-luck-ancient-non-nazi swastika rofl
http://koti.mbnet.fi/jani_r/Posters/swastika.gif
How is that "nazi" swastika? :roll:
ikurinturbiini
05-07-2005, 07:15 AM
Where's Jani? I'm sure he'll explain to us that was a good-luck-ancient-non-nazi swastika rofl
http://koti.mbnet.fi/jani_r/Posters/swastika.gif
How is that "nazi" swastika? :roll:
If a Jew says so.
Just what we need... anti-Semitic parasites coming to live here, put them on the next plane to the Baltics!
Why should the Baltic States be responsible for him? The article says Soviet Union; it doesn't specify Baltic states.
I hope the Israeli government take the gloves off and kick him out of the country. Likewise anyone else who broke the law and used forged documentation. It is quite possible this documentation, criminally obtained, is depriving legitimate persons from emmigrating.
The actions and attitudes of this person is antithetical to the state of Israel.
Just what we need... anti-Semitic parasites coming to live here, put them on the next plane to the Baltics!
Why should the Baltic States be responsible for him? The article says Soviet Union; it doesn't specify Baltic states.
It's not mentioned in the article, but they are from Latvia by origin...
Javehn
05-07-2005, 08:38 AM
Where's Jani? I'm sure he'll explain to us that was a good-luck-ancient-non-nazi swastika rofl
http://koti.mbnet.fi/jani_r/Posters/swastika.gif
How is that "nazi" swastika? :roll:
If a Jew says so.
Yea , yea . Ancient swastika simbol , used as well in Jewish history as it can be seen in the rouins of sinagogues from roman era .
Missed your "I'm better then everybody" attitude . Now go be smartass somewhere else :lol: .
ikurinturbiini
05-08-2005, 09:02 AM
Missed your "I'm better then everybody" attitude .
It's not my "I'm better than everybody" attitude. It's my "I'm better than some of you" attitude.
Inquisitor
05-08-2005, 10:37 AM
If I don't like israelis but I got no problems with Jews am I antisemitic? :roll:
hm...
Kaplanr
05-08-2005, 01:27 PM
If I don't like israelis but I got no problems with Jews am I antisemitic? :roll: hm...
Probably. Do you talk about not liking Americans, Germans or Mexicans as a group? Most people like to soften their position and say "I like Russians, just not their government."
Is it because you think Israelis think homogeneously and speak with one mouth, or all behave the same?
If I don't like israelis but I got no problems with Jews am I antisemitic? :roll:
hm...
No.
You are just an asshole.
Inquisitor
05-09-2005, 07:34 AM
You are just an asshole.
Oh really?Said from someone who's got a really huge "me" because of his ****** trends I won't get upset :lol:
Is it because you think Israelis think homogeneously and speak with one mouth, or all behave the same?
Yeah I guess you are right...than I'll just say I don't like the nazi Sharon government
You are just an asshole.
Oh really?Said from someone who's got a really huge "me" because of his ****** trends I won't get upset :lol:
Is it because you think Israelis think homogeneously and speak with one mouth, or all behave the same?
Yeah I guess you are right...than I'll just say I don't like the nazi Sharon government
Well... :roll: :cantbeli:
Where are you from any way?
Inquisitor
05-09-2005, 09:15 AM
Oh,I've just returned from some Jihads in Afghanistan,Iraq...you know,daily routine...now I am planning a suicide attack in Israel..I'm kind of bored,I wanna try something new... :roll:
Oh,I've just returned from some Jihads in Afghanistan,Iraq...you know,daily routine...now I am planning a suicide attack in Israel..I'm kind of bored,I wanna try something new... :roll:
You need to take care of yourself. :petting:
Whats your problem...tell me where are you from?
Whats your problem...tell me where are you from?
Where he is from isn't important... you can find idiots all over the planet.
Inquisitor
05-09-2005, 12:32 PM
Where he is from isn't important... you can find idiots all over the planet.
Yea in fact I've just found 2! :D
I'm from BiH buddy ;)
baker
05-09-2005, 12:52 PM
Calm down. I criticize the politics of Isreal when ever I want, freedom of speech and so on, although I'm a bad, evil, nazi german :roll:
getting OT...
just don't like your politics in attuide towards other countries etc., the people might be allright, don't know. I hope this is allowed without being an asshole?
baker
05-09-2005, 12:55 PM
It's nice to find out that I'm a racist since I support beating neo-nazis (or people that would literaly pay to kill me) to death.
And as far as I know the law says Nazis, and not Nazi war criminals.
Ok to clear up this quarrel before some dumbass jumps on a wagon again and starts to declare that Israel is the best thing that happened to Arabs since the sliced bread (Only thing is they forgot to ask Arabs their opinion, but its only minor right?)
So sir I do think you're a racisit, and a chauvinist
Heres your exact words:
But I do support beating any Nazi to death in case you meet one on the street (even if he just looks at you), that's self-defence.
As I said in another thread:
IMO, he should be executed as the Israeli law say (there's a death pentalty here for being a Nazi).
His family should be transfered back to Russia and their house should be sold and used to pay for all the funding they got from the state as newcomers.
My standing ovations to you as a representative of a nation that almost persished and should be thankfull to other for saving they butts. You should be first screaming "never again" yet you're propaganding extermination based on looks or beliefes. Despicable!
As to clear me of any future accusations: I'm not Nazi nor supporter nor sympathizer.
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl I can't see how that makes me a chauvinist.
I support his death in misery since he's a neo-nazi, if you don't know this people support the killing of Jews until their total anahilation.
If he'd like to kill me, why wouldn't I like to kill him?
As for kicking his fanily out, that's because they are ilegal immigrants, they forged documents to enter Israel, they should get their ass in jail for few years and then get kicked out.
As for selling the home, every immigrant to Israel gets benefits and money from the government, since they used this money to buy their home the country should get a full refund.
Per defintion it's not a act of selve defence or has he ever attacked you? Everything else would be rather questionable, as far there are certainly individuals on our planet who would like to kill all germans etc...
Yea in fact I've just found 2! :D
I wouldn't be surprised if they were among your close friends... :lol:
Calm down. I criticize the politics of Isreal when ever I want, freedom of speech and so on, although I'm a bad, evil, nazi german :roll:
None of us, at least not me, have a problem with people criticizing the politics of Isreal (as I also do this a lot ;) ).
Yet there are people such as Inquisitor who come up with a remark such as "I don't like israelis " even though I doubt he ever met an Israeli face to face.
Later on when they realize what a foolish remark they had made, they decide to write that they only hate our politics... while not forgetting to add the word "Nazi" to the word "Sharon government".
Now that doesn't make you evil nor a Nazi (or even a German :) ) but it does say something about your intelligence and your debating skills.
Hope everything is much clearer now that I have explained this to you.
Everything else would be rather questionable, as far there are certainly individuals on our planet who would like to kill all germans etc...
This is basically about him and his family entering the country and enjoying benefits given to immigrants by decepting the authorities.
The fact that this guy is an anti-Semite who immigrated to a country that defines itself as the Jewish national homeland only adds to the whole impact of this case.
FutureGrunt
05-09-2005, 02:13 PM
Everything else would be rather questionable, as far there are certainly individuals on our planet who would like to kill all germans etc...
This is basically about him and his family entering the country and enjoying benefits given to immigrants by decepting the authorities.
The fact that this guy is an anti-Semite who immigrated to a country that defines itself as the Jewish national homeland only adds to the whole impact of this case.
So basically we can just go ahead and execute every Arab or Muslim here in the United States who immigrate here and use government benefits, cause we know a lot of them are in fact anti-American??? Great, I'll call my congressman tommorow and suggest this idea, also I will mention that we can sell his house and sent his family back to "Stan" without means of support. I will also meantion this is Israeli idea, as we all know all Israeli ideas are always fair and perfect :roll:
So basically we can just go ahead and execute every Arab or Muslim here in the United States who immigrate here and use government benefits, cause we know a lot of them are in fact anti-American???
Ehem... did I ever go out and defend Moledet's proposal to execute the guy because he was an anti-Semite? No.
I referred to the man and his family's deception of the authorities.
In this matter I think Moledet is right and the family should be deported out of the country and everything the country gave them should be reclaimed.
If you had read my previous posts you would have noticed that I object to Moledet's opinion that the man should be executed.
BTW, we know for sure that this guy and his mother are anti-Semites who entered the country with forged documents, so your analogy is lacking...
baker
05-09-2005, 04:01 PM
Calm down. I criticize the politics of Isreal when ever I want, freedom of speech and so on, although I'm a bad, evil, nazi german :roll:
None of us, at least not me, have a problem with people criticizing the politics of Isreal (as I also do this a lot ;) ).
Yet there are people such as Inquisitor who come up with a remark such as "I don't like israelis " even though I doubt he ever met an Israeli face to face.
Later on when they realize what a foolish remark they had made, they decide to write that they only hate our politics... while not forgetting to add the word "Nazi" to the word "Sharon government".
Now that doesn't make you evil nor a Nazi (or even a German :) ) but it does say something about your intelligence and your debating skills.
Hope everything is much clearer now that I have explained this to you.
Really thank you for your explanition dude. The problem is that a few of the Israelis here seem far more radical in their views (e.g. executing this guy...). Me being a nazi because of my statments was just an ironical exaggeration to prevent answers like "but you are a German, you killed even more" etc.... Unfortunately this still happens 60 years after WW2, also in this forum. Nice to meet an Israel who lives in the present and sees how the things have changed. :)
baker
05-09-2005, 04:03 PM
Everything else would be rather questionable, as far there are certainly individuals on our planet who would like to kill all germans etc...
This is basically about him and his family entering the country and enjoying benefits given to immigrants by decepting the authorities.
The fact that this guy is an anti-Semite who immigrated to a country that defines itself as the Jewish national homeland only adds to the whole impact of this case.
yeah, I already got the facts, but executing him as a act of selvdefense would questionable in my eyes. Throw him out of the country or so, but shooting him?
Moledet
05-09-2005, 05:07 PM
It's nice to find out that I'm a racist since I support beating neo-nazis (or people that would literaly pay to kill me) to death.
And as far as I know the law says Nazis, and not Nazi war criminals.
Ok to clear up this quarrel before some dumbass jumps on a wagon again and starts to declare that Israel is the best thing that happened to Arabs since the sliced bread (Only thing is they forgot to ask Arabs their opinion, but its only minor right?)
So sir I do think you're a racisit, and a chauvinist
Heres your exact words:
But I do support beating any Nazi to death in case you meet one on the street (even if he just looks at you), that's self-defence.
As I said in another thread:
IMO, he should be executed as the Israeli law say (there's a death pentalty here for being a Nazi).
His family should be transfered back to Russia and their house should be sold and used to pay for all the funding they got from the state as newcomers.
My standing ovations to you as a representative of a nation that almost persished and should be thankfull to other for saving they butts. You should be first screaming "never again" yet you're propaganding extermination based on looks or beliefes. Despicable!
As to clear me of any future accusations: I'm not Nazi nor supporter nor sympathizer.
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl I can't see how that makes me a chauvinist.
I support his death in misery since he's a neo-nazi, if you don't know this people support the killing of Jews until their total anahilation.
If he'd like to kill me, why wouldn't I like to kill him?
As for kicking his fanily out, that's because they are ilegal immigrants, they forged documents to enter Israel, they should get their ass in jail for few years and then get kicked out.
As for selling the home, every immigrant to Israel gets benefits and money from the government, since they used this money to buy their home the country should get a full refund.
Per defintion it's not a act of selve defence or has he ever attacked you? Everything else would be rather questionable, as far there are certainly individuals on our planet who would like to kill all germans etc...
It's enough that he's a neo-nazi IMO, if he holds a view that I should be killed, I should hold the same view about him.
I don't think that any non neo-nazi german should be killed, BTW this guy is from Latvia so it has nothing to do with Germany.
Moledet
05-09-2005, 05:11 PM
Everything else would be rather questionable, as far there are certainly individuals on our planet who would like to kill all germans etc...
This is basically about him and his family entering the country and enjoying benefits given to immigrants by decepting the authorities.
The fact that this guy is an anti-Semite who immigrated to a country that defines itself as the Jewish national homeland only adds to the whole impact of this case.
So basically we can just go ahead and execute every Arab or Muslim here in the United States who immigrate here and use government benefits, cause we know a lot of them are in fact anti-American??? Great, I'll call my congressman tommorow and suggest this idea, also I will mention that we can sell his house and sent his family back to "Stan" without means of support. I will also meantion this is Israeli idea, as we all know all Israeli ideas are always fair and perfect :roll:
If they think of killing Americans because they are Americans, I say you should go a head with your proposal.
BTW, the US gives no benefits to newcomers (as far as I know), so you have nothing to take from them since it was all bought with their private money.
baker - mate
DId i say you are a nazi for not like our goverment? hell no...me to don't like our goverment....
But the other guy here said that he hate Israelis.
And even so i didn't say he is a nazy..i just sayed he is an ass hole.
Got my point?
Inquisitor
05-11-2005, 08:42 AM
But the other guy here said that he hate Israelis.
ok...now we have some options:
1)you are kidding
2)you have some problems with your eyes
3)you are an asshole
could you tell me which one of these?
I wouldn't be surprised if they were among your close friends...
of course there are!do you want to contact them?you know,ppl are happier with ppl who share the same qualities :D
PigSnake
05-11-2005, 09:21 AM
Where he is from isn't important... you can find idiots all over the planet.
Yea in fact I've just found 2! :D
I'm from BiH buddy ;)
he's from bosnia herzegovina........
you know,ppl are happier with ppl who share the same qualities :D
Which makes sense that they should be your friends as I pointed out ;)
Inquisitor
05-11-2005, 01:19 PM
Which makes sense that they should be your friends as I pointed out Wink
Oh I don't mind a lot about them you know - but they costantly ask about you,your idiocity is famous c'mon ;)
But the other guy here said that he hate Israelis.
ok...now we have some options:
1)you are kidding
2)you have some problems with your eyes
3)you are an asshole
could you tell me which one of these?
I wouldn't be surprised if they were among your close friends...
of course there are!do you want to contact them?you know,ppl are happier with ppl who share the same qualities :D
If I don't like israelis
Well..not hate but don't like...well..
Inquisitor
05-11-2005, 03:05 PM
Well..not hate but don't like...well..
:cantbeli:
supercontra
05-11-2005, 03:23 PM
You find stupid people everywhere. In sweden we had a negro who was part of a hate group called White Aryan Resistance. And now a neo-nazi jew. Where will it end? A Black, Jewish, homo****** as grand dragon of the KKK
Oh I don't mind a lot about them you know - but they costantly ask about you,your idiocity is famous c'mon ;)
Ok, I think we can agree that your insults have gone below the level of kid in kindergarten rofl
Anyway I don't have time to be bothered by you as it is Independence Day by us... so have a happy holiday. ;)
FutureGrunt
05-11-2005, 03:33 PM
You find stupid people everywhere. In sweden we had a negro who was part of a hate group called White Aryan Resistance. And now a neo-nazi jew. Where will it end? A Black, Jewish, homo****** as grand dragon of the KKK
With the way political correctness is going, soon that will be a requirement rofl
Inquisitor
05-12-2005, 07:48 AM
Ok, I think we can agree that your insults have gone below the level of kid in kindergarten
really?I tought the same,but I like kids so I enjoyed having fun with you :lol:
But now it's time to sleep cya ;)
P.S.
is it common trough israelis blaming others for being the one who starts ****s? :roll:
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