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Jeremiah
05-06-2005, 07:07 PM
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7010


On April Fools' Day, the American Civil Liberties Union will show us what a joke its commitment to American civil liberties really is.

April 1st, in case you haven't heard, is the launch of the Minuteman Project, an all-volunteer effort by law-abiding American citizens to call attention to the nation's wide open southern border. Hundreds of Americans from New York to Michigan to California will travel down to the U.S.-Mexico border for a month to monitor illegal aliens and alert immigration enforcement officials if they witness law-breaking.

Call it the mother of all neighborhood watch programs.

In doing so, the Minutemen will be exercising their constitutionally protected freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Those would be fundamental civil liberties found in something called the, uh, First Amendment, of which the ACLU is supposed to be the foremost expert and champion. Or so the group and its celebrity supporters say. In sanctimonious new fund-raising ad campaigns, the organization features the likes of liberal actress Holly Hunter, who asks:

"Do you want to be heard without fear? I am not an American who believes that questioning or criticizing my government is unpatriotic."

Uh-huh. "Dissent is patriotic," the Left likes to preach. Except, apparently, if the questioning and criticizing deals with the government's abject failure to enforce immigration laws. Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist has been harassed by open-borders activists at his home. The group is reportedly being targeted by savage illegal alien gangsters from Mara Salvatrucha (a.k.a. MS-13). Mexican government officials are lobbying American law enforcement officials to suppress the Minutemen's rights to speak and assemble.

But instead of coming to the defense of the Minutemen who are challenging our government, the ACLU has warned the 1,000 volunteers that it will send monitors to document the Americans' activities. Moreover, the ACLU has already threatened lawsuits against the American dissenters for exercising their rights.

This bullying of pro-immigration enforcement activists comes as no surprise to those of us who have followed the ACLU's aggressive open-borders agenda -- from its support for driver's licenses for illegal aliens, to its opposition to detaining illegal alien terror suspects after 9/11 and profiling foreign visitors from terror-friendly countries, to its efforts to stop local and state law enforcement officers from helping federal homeland security efforts.

ACLU of Arizona spokesman Ray Ybarra argues that the mere presence of the Minutemen at the border constitutes "unlawful imprisonment" of illegal (excuse me, "undocumented") aliens (excuse me, "migrants"). Ybarra told the Washington Times that the ACLU will have lawyers on standby ready to file civil cases against the volunteers. He warned that the Minutemen could "come to our state as 'vigilantes' and end up leaving as 'defendants.'"

The Minutemen have made it clear on their website and in repeated statements that they "will not violate anyone's civil rights, and will not abuse anyone from any country. . . . We will alert border patrol to the location of illegals, and wait for [the Border Patrol] to come and pick them up. We will follow illegal aliens from a distance and continue spotting them until authorities answer our cell phone and/or back-pack radio calls. All spotting, calls for assistance, and the response from the appropriate authorities will be chronicled and provided to any media representative."

Contrary to the ACLU and mainstream media representations of the group as racists and immigrant-bashers, the Minutemen are a diverse volunteer group that includes Americans of Mexican, Armenian, Russian, Lebanese, Indian and Cuban descent; and black and Native American minorities. Also among the volunteers are 19 legal immigrants from Mexico, Peru, Russia, New Zealand, England, Australia and the Philippines.

By recklessly linking the Minutemen to white separatists and casting them as outlaws, the civil liberties crowd engages in the very guilt-by-association smear tactics it has so loudly condemned. And in putting the protection of illegal aliens' rights over law-abiding Americans' civil liberties, the ACLU demonstrates on which side of the border its true allegiances lie.

BigBaribal
05-06-2005, 07:31 PM
Have someone infos about the ACLU?

Geezah
05-06-2005, 10:06 PM
Have someone infos about the ACLU?

They suck, they claim they fight for our constituionally rights, except they choose to ignore the 2nd :(

ACLU (http://www.aclu.org/)

BarkingSquirrel
05-06-2005, 11:14 PM
......The article is over a month old.

jd123
05-06-2005, 11:55 PM
ACLU are the devil's advocate.

usa320
05-07-2005, 12:34 AM
ACLU= American Communist Loonies Union.

Bluezoo
05-07-2005, 12:38 AM
ACLU= American Communist Loonies Union.
rofl

Bronson
05-07-2005, 03:23 AM
Ah, so when you believe you've been wrongfully imprisoned or had your civil rights violated, you're just going to bend over, take it up the chute, and spout something about how the Constitution should only be interpreted literally when it comes to owning a gun?

The ACLU is about as un-American as eating an apple pie at a baseball game while daydreaming of a bald eagle.

Roaming East
05-07-2005, 09:48 AM
http://www.i-hate-liberals.com/images/aclu.gif

Last i heard our constitution actually TASKED the government with protecting the border. Not the jumpers who dont technically fall under the constitution by, you know, not paying taxes and breaking the law and stuff....

Jeremiah
05-07-2005, 09:59 AM
http://www.dummocrats.com/images/x/categories/aclu.gif

:backhand:

BarkingSquirrel
05-07-2005, 03:22 PM
Ah, so when you believe you've been wrongfully imprisoned or had your civil rights violated, you're just going to bend over, take it up the chuteYeah if you're a white, straight, male, as the ACLU wouldn't help you anyways.

Jeremiah
05-08-2005, 02:44 AM
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Jeremiah
05-08-2005, 02:44 AM
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BigBaribal
05-08-2005, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the infos.

Does someone know how ACLU get his funds?

Because when you know who pays, you know who leads.

vote for Pedro
05-08-2005, 04:41 PM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?

BarkingSquirrel
05-08-2005, 05:13 PM
I see. Breaking the law is A OK as long as there is a percieved need to.

vote for Pedro
05-08-2005, 05:14 PM
I see. Breaking the law is A OK as long as there is a percieved need to.

I don't know, ask the Bush administration, everyone is saying the government isn't enforcing the immigration laws.

BarkingSquirrel
05-08-2005, 08:20 PM
Last I checked, the Bush administration weren't the ones running around trying to rationalize breaking the law. Blaming the Bush adminstration is like a murderer blaming the cops for not stopping him from killing someone.

vote for Pedro
05-08-2005, 08:31 PM
Last I checked, the Bush administration weren't the ones running around trying to rationalize breaking the law. Blaming the Bush adminstration is like a murderer blaming the cops for not stopping him from killing someone.

I am not blaming them for anything. The minutemen and thier supporters are claiming the federal government is not doing thier job with respect to illegal immigration. I was merely voicing an opinion as to why they are not doing the job.

Nawlins
05-08-2005, 09:37 PM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?

As long as they're working, not commiting crimes, and willing to pay taxes, why not become citizens? I don't have a problem with people coming to this country as long as it's legal and done through the proper channels... it's necessary for the safety of this country.

Sir Zach of R.
05-09-2005, 02:30 AM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?



As long as they're working, not commiting crimes, and willing to pay taxes, why not become citizens? I don't have a problem with people coming to this country as long as it's legal and done through the proper channels... it's necessary for the safety of this country.

x2

Legion
05-09-2005, 10:23 AM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?

If it takes an immigrant to do these jobs(I don't think it does, but for the sake of argument), why not fill them with LEGAL immigrants?

nahimov
05-09-2005, 11:05 AM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?

If it takes an immigrant to do these jobs(I don't think it does, but for the sake of argument), why not fill them with LEGAL immigrants?

Have you tried to get into US LEGALLY? It is almost impossible. You would have to be some oppressed minority or something. But in that case these "legal" immigrants usually don't work and just collect welfare. The whole system is rigged in a strange twisted way. If you are illigal than you have no choice but to work your ass off if you are legal well than US gives you money so you don't have to work. That is why US government will never do anything about this problem. The only solution is to change A LOT of immigration laws.

mudbunny
05-09-2005, 11:26 AM
Have you tried to get into US LEGALLY? It is almost impossible. You would have to be some oppressed minority or something. But in that case these "legal" immigrants usually don't work and just collect welfare. The whole system is rigged in a strange twisted way. If you are illigal than you have no choice but to work your ass off if you are legal well than US gives you money so you don't have to work. That is why US government will never do anything about this problem. The only solution is to change A LOT of immigration laws.

Hey, cry me a river pal, the only PROBLEM with the immigration laws that we have in place is that they're not ENFORCED. If you're finding it impossible to come to this country legally, then I'm sorry, your plan B shouldn't involve building a driftwood raft and sailing here, it should however involve you making the best in the country that your bitch mother brought you into this world.

jasonglh
05-09-2005, 11:50 AM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?

So why do you think all your hospitals are closing up shop? Guess what illegals dont pay their bills and you get enough dead beats the hospital folds. Your spouting horse ****.

Roaming East
05-09-2005, 12:55 PM
damn this internets thing... :lol:

Roaming East
05-09-2005, 01:41 PM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?

If it takes an immigrant to do these jobs(I don't think it does, but for the sake of argument), why not fill them with LEGAL immigrants?

Have you tried to get into US LEGALLY? It is almost impossible. You would have to be some oppressed minority or something. But in that case these "legal" immigrants usually don't work and just collect welfare. The whole system is rigged in a strange twisted way. If you are illigal than you have no choice but to work your ass off if you are legal well than US gives you money so you don't have to work. That is why US government will never do anything about this problem. The only solution is to change A LOT of immigration laws.

calling bull on this one, i can name right now 5 Co workers who are legal aliens from Latin america and another 7 from various other regions of the world

nahimov
05-09-2005, 02:08 PM
I live in California which is the 5th (or some say the 6th or 7th) largest economy in the world. I live in the Central Valley, which produces the most agriculture in the United States. If all of the illegal immigrants took a day off, California would crumble. The backbone of the economy here is agriculture. The backbone of the agriculture here is illegal immigrants. Every resturant and hotel I have been to here in California also employes illegal immigrants. One of the reasons the US government is "not doing its job" with respect to illegal immigrants is because they fulfill an important aspect of America that is lacking: Back-breaking labor. I don't know any non-illegal immigrants that are lining up to do agricultural field work, or wash dishes, or clean motels. If we take out all of the illegal immigrants here, who is going to fill thier jobs? Are you illegal immigrant bashers going to work the fields?

If it takes an immigrant to do these jobs(I don't think it does, but for the sake of argument), why not fill them with LEGAL immigrants?

Have you tried to get into US LEGALLY? It is almost impossible. You would have to be some oppressed minority or something. But in that case these "legal" immigrants usually don't work and just collect welfare. The whole system is rigged in a strange twisted way. If you are illigal than you have no choice but to work your ass off if you are legal well than US gives you money so you don't have to work. That is why US government will never do anything about this problem. The only solution is to change A LOT of immigration laws.

calling bull on this one, i can name right now 5 Co workers who are legal aliens from Latin america and another 7 from various other regions of the world
Yes sure there are a lot of immigrants but aparantly not enough to do slave labor on the fields.