View Full Version : Student suspended for talking to mom in Iraq
uglybaby
05-06-2005, 07:19 PM
COLUMBUS, Ga. - A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a mobile phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said.
The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly" and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said.
The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion.
Mobile phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."
Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office.
"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mom_s_call_suspension
vampireuk
05-06-2005, 07:26 PM
I'd be damned if I hung up on my mother in those circumstances.
tyovan4
05-06-2005, 07:43 PM
Id certainly be a bit upset too if they told me to hang up on my mom when she was calling from Iraq!!
Avary
05-06-2005, 07:43 PM
Meanwhile drug dealers are free to operate in the school without interference from the teachers.
usm2b
05-06-2005, 07:52 PM
This is an outrage! p-)
Pandy
05-06-2005, 08:01 PM
I would have told the teacher off too....
Aerosoul
05-06-2005, 08:06 PM
This is an outrage! p-)
:lol:
BlackRain
05-06-2005, 08:09 PM
I wonder what the political affiliation of the Principal was?
Spencer High School
Principal: Olivia T. Rutledge
uglybaby
05-06-2005, 08:13 PM
sorry I just realized this topic was already posted by USA320 if needed mods please carry over the replies to his thread. Thanks.
DarkCypher
05-06-2005, 08:14 PM
"Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."
So suspending him isn't going to cause any undue? :bash:
I take it he wasn't in class, because it was lunchtime, so why isn't he allowed to make a phone call?
TuNeRsHaRk
05-06-2005, 08:27 PM
Dont worry folks the Administrators at that school are the ones who started Forsake the troops : http://www.forsakethetroops.info/index.shtml
Dude, Seriously
05-06-2005, 08:57 PM
Bottom line: If it was against the rules of the school, he should have followed the rules. Its like Alabama Judge Roy Moore who refused to remove the 10 Commandments after being ordered to. While you have a right to your own feelings about it, you still need to follow the rules. Laws and rules are there for a reason and no one has the right to decide to disobey them without consequences. Do I think the boy should have been allowed to talk to his mother under the cirumstances, certainly. But I do not agree with his profanity and disrespectful responses to school authorities regardless if they are scum or not.
Aerosoul
05-06-2005, 09:03 PM
Way I see it, it was during lunch, right? It's not like he was talking in the middle of a class.
Sure, it's against school rules, technically. But this in no way affected the education of anyone, as I said it was at lunch not in the classroom. The school ought to be a little lenient in this situation, wartime.
I suspect when he began cursing is when the school decided they would take action in the form of suspension.
Drako
05-06-2005, 09:29 PM
Bottom line: If it was against the rules of the school, he should have followed the rules. Its like Alabama Judge Roy Moore who refused to remove the 10 Commandments after being ordered to. While you have a right to your own feelings about it, you still need to follow the rules. Laws and rules are there for a reason and no one has the right to decide to disobey them without consequences. Do I think the boy should have been allowed to talk to his mother under the cirumstances, certainly. But I do not agree with his profanity and disrespectful responses to school authorities regardless if they are scum or not.
Rules like that are created to break them. School rules are usually stupid and useless, especially when they are created to make people's lifes harder. I wouldn't care about the suspension - boy will have 10 days off the school, not a big deal. Teacher and the principle just came out to be feelingless assholes and not worth any respect.
ckabusk
05-06-2005, 09:58 PM
According to other source, the teacher said that she wasnt aware that the student was talkin to his mom who stationed in Iraq. If the teacher is aware about it then she would have acted differently in dealing with the matter.
usm2b
05-06-2005, 10:21 PM
The teacher had the right to tell him to turn off his cell phone; its the rules. However... rules don't always cover every situation. This was a very, very odd sitaution that was not considered when the rule was applied. I went to a small preppy high school(about 600 students), and some of the girls would call other girls from across our small campus to see where they were. That is a valid reason for a teacher to say shut up and put down the phone. Yet, I can't help but think that a more reasonalbe response to that situation would have been, "Oh, well lets get you somewhere more private, so it doesn't look were violating any school policies." Im sure the student would have thought, "ok....thats cool".
That teacher failed IMO, to think as a person.
(_SPETSNAZ_)
05-06-2005, 10:22 PM
this topic has already been posted...
bluffcove
05-07-2005, 09:47 AM
If it was deemed not to cause him any undue harship, what is the purpose of suspension.
We suspended a child found dealing grass to the younger students but have suspended him for ten days "as we dont wish to cause him any undue hardship."
I love a good hypocritical stance!
Flukeman
05-07-2005, 01:20 PM
The school should be proud of the young lads mother. She is serving her country.
Digital Marine
05-08-2005, 10:15 AM
This is retarded..... they should suspend that teacher instead :bash:
Paracaidista
05-08-2005, 10:38 AM
both failed. The teacher(s) for not using common sense and bend the rules if any, and the student who replied harshly, obiously breaking some.
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