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XTC
05-07-2005, 09:19 AM
Rory Carroll, Africa correspondent
Thursday March 11, 2004
The Guardian

North African pirates abducted and enslaved more than 1 million Europeans between 1530 and 1780 in a series of raids which depopulated coastal towns from Sicily to Cornwall, according to new research.
Thousands of white Christians were seized every year to work as galley slaves, labourers and concubines for Muslim overlords in what is today Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Libya, it is claimed.

Scholars have long known of the slave raids on Europe. But American historian Robert Davis has calculated that the total number captured - although small compared with the 12 million Africans shipped to the Americas in later years - was far higher than previously recognised.

His new book, Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800, concluded that 1 million to 1.25 million ended up in bondage.

Prof Davis's unorthodox methodology split historians over whether his estimates were plausible but they welcomed any attempt to fill a gap in the little-known story of Africans subjugating Europeans.

By collating different sources of information from Europe over three centuries, the University of Ohio professor has painted a picture of a continent at the mercy of pirates from the Barbary Coast, known as corsairs, who sailed in lanteen-rigged xebecs and oared galleys.

Villages and towns on the coast of Italy, Spain, Portugal and France were hardest hit but the raiders also seized people in Britain, Ireland and Iceland. According to one account they even captured 130 American seamen from ships that they boarded in the Atlantic and Mediterranean between 1785 and 1793.

In the absence of detailed written records such as customs forms Prof Davis decided to extrapolate from the best records available indicating how many slaves were at a particular location at a single time and calculate how many new slaves were needed to replace those who died, escaped or were freed.

To keep the slave population stable, around one quarter had to be replaced each year, which for the period 1580 to 1680 meant around 8,500 new slaves per annum, totalling 850,000.

The same methodology would suggest 475,000 were abducted in the previous and following centuries.

"Much of what has been written gives the impression that there were not many slaves and minimises the impact that slavery had on Europe," Prof Davis said in a statement this week.

"Most accounts only look at slavery in one place, or only for a short period of time. But when you take a broader, longer view, the massive scope of this slavery and its powerful impact become clear."

Prof Davis conceded his methodology was not ideal but Ian Blanchard, professor of economic history at the University of Edinburgh and an authority on trade in Africa, said yesterday that the numbers appeared to add up.

"We are talking about statistics which are not real, all the figures are estimates. But I don't find that absolute figure of 1 million at all surprising. It makes total sense."

The arrival of gold from the Americas and the shipping of slaves from west Africa squeezed the traditional business of the Barbary merchant fleet which was transporting gold and slaves from southern to northern Africa, so they turned their gaze to Europe, said Prof Blanchard.

Slaving

However David Earle, author of The Corsairs of Malta and Barbary and The Pirate Wars, said that Prof Davis may have erred in extrapolating from 1580-1680 because that was the most intense slaving period: "His figures sound a bit dodgy and I think he may be exaggerating."

Dr Earle also cautioned that the picture was clouded by the fact the corsairs also seized non-Christian whites from eastern Europe and black people from west Africa. "I wouldn't hazard a guess about the total."

According to one estimate, 7,000 English people were abducted between 1622-1644, many of them ships' crews and passengers. But the corsairs also landed on unguarded beaches, often at night, to snatch the unwary.

Almost all the inhabitants of the village of Baltimore, in Ireland, were captured in 1631, and there were other raids in Devon and Cornwall.

Reverend Devereux Spratt recorded being captured by "Algerines" while crossing the Irish sea from Cork to England in April 1641 and in 1661 Samuel Pepys wrote about two men, Captain Mootham and Mr Dawes, who were also abducted.

Last year it was announced that one of the richest treasure wrecks found off the coast of Devon was a 16th-century Barbary ship en route to catch English slaves.

Although the black Africans enslaved and shipped to North and South America over four centuries outnumbered Prof Davis's estimates of white European taken to Africa by 12-1, it is probable they shared the same grim conditions.

"One of the things that both the public and many scholars have tended to take as given is that slavery was always racial in nature - that only blacks have been slaves. But that is not true," said the author.

In comments which may stoke controversy, he said that white slavery had been minimised or ignored because academics preferred to treat Europeans as evil colonialists rather than as victims.

While Africans laboured on sugar and cotton plantations the European slaves were put to work in quarries, building sites and galleys and endured malnutrition, disease and maltreatment.

Ruling pashas, entitled to an eighth of all captured Christians, housed them in overcrowded baths known as baños and used them for public works such as building harbours and cutting trees. They were given loaves of black bread and water.

The pasha's female captives were more likely to be regarded as hostages to be bargained for ransom but many worked as attendants in the palace harem while awaiting payment and freedom, which in some cases never came. Some slaves bought by private individuals were well treated and became companions, others were overworked and beaten.

"The most unlucky ended up stuck and forgotten out in the desert, in some sleepy town such as Suez, or in the Turkish sultan's galleys, where some slaves rowed for decades without ever setting foot on shore," said Prof Davis, whose book is published in the US by Palgrave Macmillan

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20040322/slave.html

el borracho
05-07-2005, 09:31 AM
A cool book related to this is Jefferson's War, America's First War on Terror, by Joseph Wheelan. It's about the Barbary Coast Wars from 1801-05. It's pretty good, has a lot of facts about a forgotton part of US history. Also included are the birth of the operational US Navy and the invasion of Tripoli by the US Marines. Kinda ironic how a lot of the details are similar to modern day: Arab terrorists threatening Western economy and culture, the passive attitude of Europe and the aggressive one of America, a president sends his forces to war without the approval of congress, etc. Here's amazon.com's link if anyone wants to check it out:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786712325/qid=1115472587/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/002-0035660-9794471?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

DPGLAW
05-07-2005, 11:45 AM
So, after reading this, I guess that you could say....The shackle is on the other foot now....lol :lol:

He219
05-07-2005, 11:49 AM
I want compensation!
p-)

Hellfish
05-07-2005, 11:51 AM
I didn't think the actions of the Barbary Pirates or the Ottomans were a secret...

XASA
05-07-2005, 12:21 PM
The fact that Arabs enslaved both Europeans and Africans is news only to those who don't know their history.

Historically, too, Europeans also enslaved their fellow countrymen until they were able to tap into the African slave trade, which resulted in a diaspora for millions. Even when the Atlantic slave trade depopulated western Africa, Europeans still had white indentured servants well into the 19th Century, and if you consider serfdom as being a form of slavery, it was in place in Europe for centuries.

Of course, when an article, like the one posted, focuses on only one part of the world's slave trade it's easy to be revisionist.

TallGuy
05-07-2005, 12:30 PM
Algerian pirates came to Iceland in 1627 and took about 350 people and murdered about 50, raped women, burned churches etc. Very few people made it back home.....

(_SPETSNAZ_)
05-07-2005, 01:02 PM
African pirates? lol 1 million people that a **** load of ppl...

Ichhabe
05-07-2005, 08:25 PM
African pirates? lol 1 million people that a **** load of ppl...

Enlighten me where you see the humour in putting people in to slavery, even if it happened before your great great grandfather had his pubic hairs growing?

askDNA
05-08-2005, 12:06 AM
Tribute to Lt. O'Bannon

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Roger Rabbit
05-08-2005, 04:15 AM
This is something i wasn't aware of until i started my degree.
For anyone interested then i'd recomend 'Captives' By Linda Colley. It is primarily about the experiences of Europeans who were tekn hostage or into slavery between 1500 and 1800 in Africa, India and America. The book is made up of primary sources making it not only fascinating but also quite easy to read.

Loco
05-08-2005, 05:49 PM
A cool book related to this is Jefferson's War, America's First War on Terror, by Joseph Wheelan. It's about the Barbary Coast Wars from 1801-05. It's pretty good, has a lot of facts about a forgotton part of US history. Also included are the birth of the operational US Navy and the invasion of Tripoli by the US Marines. Kinda ironic how a lot of the details are similar to modern day: Arab terrorists threatening Western economy and culture, the passive attitude of Europe and the aggressive one of America, a president sends his forces to war without the approval of congress, etc. Here's amazon.com's link if anyone wants to check it out:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786712325/qid=1115472587/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/002-0035660-9794471?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
The only details similar to modern days are those that look like "christians" as opposoded to "muslims". I think it´s kind of messianic, sarcastic, megalomaniac and false, this description of american expedition to north Africa as the beginning of the fight against the arabs terrorists threatening the western economy because the wussie europeans were just a bunch of cowars that couldn´t did nothing in 1000 years.
Muslims were the worst enemies that europeans face, without forgetting that some europeans traditionally were as much enemies of other europeans as the same muslims. Christians and moors have been fighting in the Mediterranean sea since the late VIIa.c. century until today, and the american expedition was a little anecdote withouth any significant importance in that war, with all my respects to the firsts marine operational force that not only tried to liberate some american hostages but to take some postions in Mediteranean see in what was the beginning of a new colonial power.
By the early XIX the berbers pirates states were not any more a threaten to the subsistance of christians countries in the Mediterranean Sea, although they were annoyingthe same that cocaine or heroine lords of today in Colombia or in Aftghanistan. The young and little american republic sought an enemy of the same size. The big berbers enemies were liquidated some years before.
Every european country dealed with this berbers states the best way they could. In the case of Spain, I´m not humble here just because it´s true in saying that my country was was the only country that fought incesantly with muslims(711aC to 1492) powers and after 1492 until the late XVIIIcentury(agaisnt turks and their allied berber states Algier, Tunez, Bona, Oran, Tripoli, Bujía, Túnez, etc) without never ever dealing with muslims agaisn´t other european countries. GBritain, France, Germany, and a long etc can´t say the same, in one moment or in other moment they were allied of muslims against other europeans countries(oftenly Spain) or had secret treatys with berbers or the turks or even they gave bases to muslim pirates in european, "christian", soil.
Other significative fact is that the Mediterranean and southern coast of Spain is very close to North Africa states. Actually, after the moors being expelled from Spain, the life in spanish mediterranean shore became even
more dangerous because of the pirates raids than before when still moors lived in Spain. The fight was long, and there were too many spanish(catalans, valencianos and mallorquis) corsairs that fought too agaisn´t those pirates with almost the same weapons, not at all the same weapons since it wasn´t the spanish policy nor the spanish way of living to take muslim hostages for a ransom.
There were so many hostages every day that in Spain all churches had a box for collecting money to pay the ransons, and there were catholic missionaires which worked exclusively gathering resources for liberating the prisioners. The writer Miguel de Cervantes(D.Quixote), who had fought as a marine along the mediterranean sea, when he finished his service he was cought as prisioner by pirates off south France waters, and he spent 5 years in Algier. In the spanish mediterranean coast, they usually were two towns for the same people, although it sounds incredibly: People had a town in the coast and other town some miles back in the hills or the mountains that were well defended. And all the coast line was full of vigilance towers which ruins still remains there. Piracy was a strong burden for spanish economy, and rich lands couldn´t being well cultivated because pirates impeded an stable population, the same that they disrupted commerce.
In the XVIII, together with the decadence of the otoman power in the Mediterranean, the berbers pirates weren´t as dangerours as before, but in the mid XVIII they had a revival, and kidnapping and getting the ransoms was an easy and wealthy way of living. The king Carlos III of Spain promoted a campaing for liquidating for ever the pirates berbers states and substantially he did it, he destroyed the power of Algier, the main pirate state, for ever. American history is rich, but it doens´t it´s the only history of the world nor the worlds owes all things to americans since always. Btw, americans were searching a base in the Mediterranean, not only fighting the pirates, and this was one of the goals of the american expedition to Lybia in the early XIX, only that neither europeans power nor turks tolerated this presence. It´s a fact that americans tried to occupy by the same age the island of Perejil in the entrance of the strait of Gibraltar, the same that was invaded by Marroq, 10 miles far from Spain coast and 1,5 mile far from the spanish city of Ceuta, and the goal of this occupation wasn´t fighting to muslim pirates since Spain had done a good pirate cleaning with their own resources for the worth of civilizated countries. Here nobody ask for thanks. After the destruction of Algier power, pirates finished for ever, with the exception of some rebels. The last incident with pirates in Spain is reported around 1803 or 1804.

http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/capitantoni/tonio.jpg
This is the admiral Tony Barceló, who fought in the Algier´s campaing of 1775 and leadered the ultimate campaing of 1784. He was born in 1717 and he began his career as a shipboy in the cargo ship of his father, after that he was sailor, he then was pilot and after the death of his father he sailed the ship as a young captain. With only 19 years old he was an experienced sailor, and at this age he fought his first combat against moors pirates when he sailed from Palma de Mallorca to Barcelona. His exploits were so famous that at 21 years old the king of Spain appointed him as Alférez de Fragata(a military rank), so though he was a civil sailor he had the status of an officer of the navy in order to fight with the navy when it was needed and as a corsair even he could to do it. Captain Tony Barceló followed his career as a merchant sailor, although eventually he was recalled by the Navy to serve in every campaing that took place in the mediterranean and fought always he had to do it himself alone agaisnt any pirated galley that crossed his route.
By the year 1756 Tony Barceló was appointed Capitán de Navío(equivalent fo a colonel of the army) and he officially joined the officers corp of the spanish navy "full time" so to speak. Years after that, Tony Barceló was the only spanish sailor of his time that was appointed admiral without being studied in the officers school. Some data about his activity around those years: Since 1762to 1769 he sank 19 pirates ships armed with 10 to 30 cannons, he caught 1.600 pirates prisioners and he liberated way over 1000 christians(not only spanish) prisioners.

http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/capitantoni/foto8.jpg
Spanish riflemen of the XVIII century.

http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/capitantoni/foto16.jpg
King Carlos III, who organized the expeditions to Algier of 1775 and 1784.

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They bay of Algier and spanish fleet in the campaing of 1775. In this campaing fought 46 spanish ships of different kinds, plus one frigate from Malta and another two frigates of the duke of Toscana. They had 1.364 cannons, and a expeditionary marine force of 18.400 soldiers commanded by general O´Reilly. The landing wasn´t well organized and the muslim soldiers were waiting, they charged with their cavalry units, a strong of 12.000 riders, and the spanish army was almots rounded. The captain Tony Barceló, who commanded the light units of spanish fleet went to the shore and pounded the muslims defenses and it was thanks to him that spanish soldiers could be evacuated in good order and he evited a disaster. Four spanish general died in that action and there were 5.000 deads.
In the summer of 1783 Toni Barceló commanded the navy that was joined to erradicate for ever the Algier pirate state. The fleet was composed of around 85 ships of different kinds, but the significative ones were 19 cannon boats that the same Antoni Barceló designed,
http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/capitantoni/canonera.jpg
The cannon boat designed by Antoni Barceló.
The 1th of August f 1783 the fleet of Antoni Barceló faced the fortresses of Algiers and 20 enemy ships defending the city. The fight began and in the next days the algerians shooted 11.280 cannon balls and 399 bombs that only killed 24 spanish and injured 20 more. The worst casualties were the cannon boat nº1 commanded by the alféred(2ºleutnant) Villavicencio. The cannon boat blew away and the alférez and the 20 men of the crew died in the moment. About the 10% of all Algier was destroyed, and most of the fortresses and ships. There aren´t datas of the algerian human losses, but it seems they were serious. With this scene, the Tripoli berber state, the 2º next in the spanish list, agreed to sign a peace treaty, that was respected by them. It seems that spanish didn´t need the help of american marines 20 years before of american expedition, even more, by the year 1783 were the spanish ones that were fighting in America helping the american rebels, with success btw.
The next year the corsair republic of Algier rebuilt their defenses and reinforced the weak points, they gathered 70 ships for defending the stated and bough more warships and began again another campaing agaisnt spanish commerce. It seems they weren´t alone in doing this things, maybe they were puppets, since 4.000 turks soldiers were sent as "volunteers" to Algiers. Again the kingdom of Spain had to organize an spanish expedition with the aim of being the last one, and it was. The spanish fleet, like the previous year, was commanded by Admiral Barceló together with some allied countries. He had a strength of 4 main warships of 80 cannons each, 4 frigates, 24 bergantines and 24 cannon boats with a weapon of 24 pounds, and 8 cannon boats with a cannon of 18 pounds, 24 boats with mortars, 8 boats with 8 inches howitzers and 7 boats with minor caliber weapons for assaulting the enemy ships. The navy of Napoli commanded by Admiral Bologna sent 2 warships, 3 frigates and 4 bergantines, the Order of Malta sent 1 warship, 2 frigates and 5 galleys, and the navy of Portugal commanded by Admiral Ramírez de Esquivel sent 2 warships and 2 frigates. The fight began the 12th of july and the city began to burn. The pirates sent to the christian fleet 67 ships and the spanish sank 4 and the rest were rejected. Spanish only suffered the lost of the cannon boat nº27 commanded by the alférez José Rodríguez, and had 6 deads and 9 injured men. Algerians, having learnt of the last year experience, this time had dispossed a barried of floating pontones armed with cannons as a first defensive line. Admiral Barceló was in board of a tiny boat to inspect the enemy at close distance and his boat was sunk, even so he and the other sailors were rescued and Barceló reanudated the fight. He was 67 years old. The fight finished the 21th of July when the algerians surrendered. The losses they suffered were terribly and the city was almost destroyed. Over 20.000 grennades, bombs and cannon balls were shooted over Algier. Christians only suffered 53 deads and 64 injured, most of them because of accidents. In 1786 was signed a Peace Treaty between the republic of Argel and the kingdom of Spain, and about that time Túnez signed other Peace Treaty with Spain. Although still were pirates along Mediterranean Sea until the XIX century, the berbers pirates republics that had impeded the normal life along the europeans mediterranean shores during 300 years were finished for ever, after the spanish actions.

http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/capitantoni/foto19.jpgThe bombing of Algier.

http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/capitantoni/bandera.jpgSpanish corsair flag, 1.748.
http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/capitantoni/bandera2.jpgSpanish Fleet flag, 1760.
The site were I took this information, http://www.nautigalia.com/marinosybarcos/articulos.php4?id=11&pag=1

M1A2U2
05-08-2005, 11:48 PM
I hear Ridley Scott's next movie is called Tripoli about the the Marines