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zaanan
05-08-2005, 04:33 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/he/4/4c/Uzi.jpg
Happy anniversary!

Please add pic, soldiers with UZI from your country.

Frens
05-08-2005, 04:45 AM
woot
Happy B-Day!!

Shiftyfive
05-08-2005, 05:23 AM
sweet :D

un_swe
05-08-2005, 05:27 AM
Here i am in Lebanon back in 1987.
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Lebanon-1987-Graphic/aas.sized.jpg

un_swe

zaanan
05-08-2005, 05:37 AM
Nice pic!
Where in Lebanon?
I been there in 82.

Svätopluk
05-08-2005, 05:51 AM
UZI Rulez ! I love it because of its size and power. But donť forget the grandfather of uzi : Sa vz.24/26, made in Czechoslovakia.

http://ccc.valka.cz/pictures/beta_101.jpg

Moledet
05-08-2005, 06:15 AM
UZI Rulez ! I love it because of its size and power. But donť forget the grandfather of uzi : Sa vz.24/26, made in Czechoslovakia.

http://ccc.valka.cz/pictures/beta_101.jpg
Hmmm no that's not the grandfather even though it does look similar.
The grandfather is a british handgun, Uzi Gal just took the handgun components inlarged them and improved them.

un_swe
05-08-2005, 06:29 AM
That was taken in Tibnine.

un_swe

Beinlausen
05-08-2005, 06:43 AM
Here i am in Lebanon back in 1987.
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Lebanon-1987-Graphic/aas.sized.jpg

un_swe

Finger off the triger :)

un_swe
05-08-2005, 07:08 AM
young and dumb :cantbeli:

un_swe

Javehn
05-08-2005, 07:12 AM
UZI Rulez ! I love it because of its size and power. But donť forget the grandfather of uzi : Sa vz.24/26, made in Czechoslovakia.

http://ccc.valka.cz/pictures/beta_101.jpg
Hmmm no that's not the grandfather even though it does look similar.
The grandfather is a british handgun, Uzi Gal just took the handgun components inlarged them and improved them.

There is an arguement about this matter , but Svatopluk answer is much more closer to the truth ;) . Most probably that samopal was Uzi father .

REMOV
05-08-2005, 07:46 AM
There is an arguement about this matter , but Svatopluk answer is much more closer to the truth. Most probably that samopal was Uzi fatherBoth - Czech and Israeli design ancestor is the MCEM-2/4/6 submachinegun designed in the United Kingdom (MCEM program = Machine Carbine Experimental Model) during the 2nd World War by Polish engineer, Podsedkowski*. This weapon was the first SMG with the magazine placed in handgrip and - which is more important - the first with wrap around bolt design. The MCEM SMG was widely discussed in post-war weapon military magazines, and shortly after such articles were published, many designers copied this technical solution, Czechs, Isralis (both Uziel Gal and Chaim Kara, his competitor). And MCEM was forgotten in our days... ;)

http://www.militech.sownet.pl/inne/_MCEM(800)_02.jpg
http://www.militech.sownet.pl/inne/_MCEM2(800)_01.jpg

Digital Marine
05-08-2005, 07:49 AM
http://members.home.nl/theonaus/kct/p005.jpg


Dutch KCT, the UZI has been replaced tho... i got it from this thread (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46893)

Javehn
05-08-2005, 08:01 AM
Well , if you can read Russian , here is proof that Uzi isn't actually copy of Czech samopal . Well , there are many versions about spiritual father of Uzi , I have even read about Japaniese SMG , Type 2 model A .
http://www.photogallery.dragonsoffire.com/TYPEIIMODELA.jpg


http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/uzi.htm


http://www.waronline.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1066&postorder=asc

REMOV
05-08-2005, 08:39 AM
Well , if you can read Russian, here is proof that Uzi isn't actually copy of Czech samopal.The UZI is modeled after previous SMGs (British MCEM-2/4/6, Czech) but isn't in fact "a copy".

BTW - from your Russian forum: (http://mail.guns.ru/Lists/firearms_r/Message/797.html)
еще в 1944 или 45 году (но еще до конца войны0 в англии "некий польский офицер" (имени его я ни в одной книге не встречал) создал довольно любопытный ПП, в разных источниках именуемый как MCEM2

http://mail.guns.ru/Lists/firearms_r/Message/797-02-B/mcem2s.JPG ;)

Javehn
05-08-2005, 09:17 AM
No doubt about it , I would buy your firearms book the second it will hit the market . :)

I have other question . Have you seen underwatter versio of Uzi ? IDF SF Flottila 13 team have used it in the beggining , it fires darts .

B25Hmitchell
05-08-2005, 09:22 AM
When Reagan was shot...

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/239_1115558546_1981-03-30.jpg

Yosy
05-08-2005, 09:39 AM
Such a simple, effective, beautiful weapon. Uzi is one of my favourite SMGs


Here i am in Lebanon back in 1987.
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Lebanon-1987-Graphic/aas.sized.jpg

un_swe

That's a classic: a Uzi with a wooden stock. Defenetly one of the firs models.

EffJi
05-08-2005, 10:22 AM
One question:
Does a banana magazine exist for the UZI?
In one of the Bourne books one is mentioned, but I always thought it was complete BS.
Ludlum is a great author, but he makes up the most rediculous weapon modifications.

Bluezoo
05-08-2005, 10:29 AM
http://members.home.nl/theonaus/kct/p005.jpg


Dutch KCT, the UZI has been replaced tho... i got it from this thread (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46893)

Great shot, dude! :D

GAFES
05-08-2005, 10:30 AM
Mexican Version of an UZI

Produced by the Mendoza company.

http://www.productosmendoza.com/tiro/images/hm3s.jpg

* Fires with a closed bolt
* Strong and rugged design guarantees resistance and durability
* Works perfectly with all 9 mm caliber makes and brands
* Excellent grouping and accuracy
* Perfectly balanced and easy handling
* Very compact, easily field striped without any tools
* Grip and thumb safety
* Adjustable rear sight
* Folding stock
* Bolt remains open after last shot is fired
* Allows flashlight or laser-sight mounting
* Water resistant

Steve Andrews
05-08-2005, 10:41 AM
I used to have a semi-auto only, closed bolt version.
I now wish I'd never sold it.

b.scheller
05-08-2005, 10:58 AM
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Colonel Mordecai Gur

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http://img224.echo.cx/img224/3074/dscn74221ww.th.jpg (http://img224.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn74221ww.jpg)

-b.scheller

tenda
05-08-2005, 11:26 AM
uzi rock's... ;)

Amethystfretchen
05-08-2005, 11:58 AM
http://www.olive-drab.com/images/firearms_uzi_germany.jpg
German Air Force Senior Master Sgt. Leo Menke
briefs U.S. soldiers on the Uzi submachine gun,
Heidelberg-area, Germany, October 2001.

The Israeli Uzi submachine gun is produced by Israel Military Industries Ltd. (IMI). As one of the most popular guns of its kind, it has earned Israel billions of dollars in the military export market. It utilizes the overall design and many features of the Czech M23/25 submachine gun, but the Uzi has a completely different receiver, rectangular stamped steel rather than round in cross-section, and other changes.
http://www.olive-drab.com/od_other_firearms_smg_uzi.php3

goldman
05-08-2005, 12:02 PM
When Reagan was shot...

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/239_1115558546_1981-03-30.jpg

http://bert.secret-wg.org/Trips/IETF61/ReaganGotShot.jpg
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hinckley/assassinationscene.jpg
http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/lifestyle/img/mar02/dyingbig0331.jpg
http://www.machinegundealer.com/Reagan-Assassination-different%20view.jpg

elguapo
05-08-2005, 12:12 PM
from feb 2005

http://www.defesanet.com.br/marinha/plataformas1/img5.jpg

http://www.defesanet.com.br/6/grumec.jpg

Marsh
05-08-2005, 12:21 PM
[quote=Javehn]There is an arguement about this matter , but Svatopluk answer is much more closer to the truth. Most probably that samopal was Uzi fatherBoth - Czech and Israeli design ancestor is the MCEM-2/4/6 submachinegun designed in the United Kingdom (MCEM program = Machine Carbine Experimental Model) during the 2nd World War by Polish engineer, Podsedkowski*. This weapon was the first SMG with the magazine placed in handgrip and - which is more important - the first with wrap around bolt design. The MCEM SMG was widely discussed in post-war weapon military magazines, and shortly after such articles were published, many designers copied this technical solution, Czechs, Isralis (both Uziel Gal and Chaim Kara, his competitor). And MCEM was forgotten in our days... ;)

Hi,
A very interesting post. One slight correction if I may, the early Kara sub-machine gun prototypes in 1948 did not have the magazine in the hand grip. It seems that Kara was unaware of the MCEM or the Czech weapons. Only when Kara saw Uzi Gal's gun did he re-work his weapon, adopting the hand grip/magazine combination for the Kara K-12 of 1949, producing a pretty decent gun but one which lacked the compact nature of the Uzi.
EDITED for stupidity. Woops. Sorry. Kara must have been aware of the Czech or MCEM weapons rather than Uzi Gal's work as the first tool room model of the Uziwas 1951. Sorry! :oops:
cheers
Marsh

Dutchman2
05-08-2005, 02:13 PM
http://members.home.nl/theonaus/kct/p005.jpg

This is the Dutch Army version of the UZI. A folding metal stock, and a 32 round mag in use with a canvas M1 Garand sling. One this pic you can also see the Blank Firing Attachment. This version was made by AI hembrug, and had one small hole. The Airforce used a BFA with 4 small holes made by NWM.
When the UZI was tested in the late 50's, the Army, Airforce and Navy wanted all different details on the Uzi. For example, the Navy wanted a wooden stock, also did the Airforce, but the army wanted a foldingstock. In the 60's, the Airforce wanted to buy new wooden stocks from IMI, but they where so expensive that the Airforce let them manufacture by a commercial Dutch metal company. The shape looked like the woodenstock, but it was made from sheetmetal. All the woodenstocks from the Airforce did go to the navy. All Uzi's where Full auto only, only the Army did modify them in the early 60's to fire them semi AND full auto. Only the navy issued a 25 round mag.
All Uzi where made by FN Herstal btw. Holland was one of the first country's that issued the Uzi. Also, the BFA for the Uzi was a Dutch design.
I fired the UZI many times, and up to 100 meters you could hit mansize targets. It was easy to handle on full auto also.

Approx 70% of the boy's and man that where in the army duty between 1959 and 1995 did had the Uzi as personal weapon.

citizen-k
05-08-2005, 07:49 PM
Ever wandered who Uzi is? (Uzi=Israeli name)

first name: Uzi, last name: Gal


http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/UziGal-Bio/image006.jpg

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/uzi/uzi_gal.gif

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/shaon/uzi_Gal.jpg

Some IDF Uzi pics:

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/shaon/uzi-speznas.jpg

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/shaon/uzi-ohrana.jpg

Conga
05-08-2005, 08:09 PM
Ever wandered who Uzi is? (Uzi=Israeli name)

first name: Uzi, last name: Gal


http://www.waronline.org/IDF/Articles/UziGal-Bio/image006.jpg


Omg, it's Idi Alpine rofl

jprichard
05-08-2005, 09:41 PM
http://www.hunt101.com/img/241301.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=241301&c=500&z=1)
Here is mine Model B in .45 acp

Jabroni
07-05-2006, 08:18 PM
The Australian MCEM 1 9mm SMG, Supposed to replace the Owen Gun
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9413/mcem17hb.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4118/mcem19mmaustralieproto11yb.jpg

Wonder if this also gave ideas to the Uzi?

Pook2
07-05-2006, 08:34 PM
Love the UZI, Enjoyed it every time I fired it.

xray 29
07-06-2006, 10:24 PM
Still one of the standard issued smg,s where I operate from ,photo is of one of our female officers

deagle
07-06-2006, 10:46 PM
[quote=

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/shaon/uzi_Gal.jpg

Would isrealis really use mp40 ?
Many jewish ppl don't even buy german cars and stuff

baboon6
07-06-2006, 11:37 PM
[quote=

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/shaon/uzi_Gal.jpg

Would isrealis really use mp40 ?
Many jewish ppl don't even buy german cars and stuff

Actually the MP40 was pretty popular in the early days of the IDF, I've got a photo in a book of Unit 101 commandos all carrying them. It was either that or the Sten as far as SMGs were concerned. There were also a lot of MG34s, while the Mauser 98 was pretty much the standard rifle until the FAL was adopted in the late '50s. Israel got all this stuff at rock-bottom prices mainly from Czechoslovakia. You use what you have.

Palmach
07-07-2006, 12:47 AM
[QUOTE=deagle]
Israel got all this stuff at rock-bottom prices mainly from Czechoslovakia. You use what you have.

Actually, Israel has gotten them at rediculously HIGH prices, because no-one other then the Checks would sell, so they managed to offload the war surplus (for which they had no use what so ever) at shy-high premium.

ClydeFrog
07-07-2006, 04:04 AM
[quote=

http://www.ljplus.ru/img/shaon/uzi_Gal.jpg

Would isrealis really use mp40 ?
Many jewish ppl don't even buy german cars and stuff
That's actually an MP38 btw. But like mentioned: The IDF used a lot of German weapons in their early days, many even still with swastika markings.

Luno
07-07-2006, 04:21 AM
We also have the Saab Bofors Dynamics CBJ :)




The Saab Bofors CBJ MS personal defence weapon was first shown during late August 2000. It is an unusual weapon in several respects, not least that it is meant to fulfil the roles of personal defence weapon, assault weapon and light support weapon. It is also capable of being field-converted to fire one of two types of ammunition. For the purely military role the CBJ MS fires a new 6.5 x 25 mm CBJ cartridge but, by simply changing the barrel, it can fire 9 x 19 mm Parabellum ammunition for police, training and other operations. The 6.5 x 25 mm CBJ cartridge has the same overall dimensions as the 9 x 19 mm Parabellum cartridge and generates the same level of firing impulse. The projectile is a tungsten insert held in a plastic sabot, creating a high muzzle velocity (815 m/s) with the ability to defeat current and future body armours; it is claimed to be effective against lightly armoured vehicles such as armoured personnel carriers. Advantages claimed for the 6.5 x 25 mm CBJ cartridge include a high impact velocity, a high hit probability due to the flat trajectory, high energy transfer to the target and low levels of barrel wear and corrosion. The cartridge case is aluminium. Each 6.5 x 25 mm CBJ cartridge weighs 4.5 g and the overall length is 29.7 mm. The projectile weight is 2 g. Combat range of the cartridge is stated to be up to 400 m.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4673/saab0vh.jpg

wolfrider
07-07-2006, 08:14 AM
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4357/uzi99jb.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9251/miniuzi560qd.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6461/miniuzi39qy.gif
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9321/microuzi9ow.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9793/parauzi21gi.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/153/usanewuzi8fg.jpg
;-)