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budanski
12-10-2003, 06:26 PM
Bush-bashing is fast becoming a tradition at Nobel Peace Prize ceremony

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&e=17&u=/afp/nobel_peace_us

OSLO (AFP) - Since the election of US President of George W. Bush in 2000, the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony in Oslo has become an annual occasion to bash Washington's foreign policy, as comments by this year's winner Shirin Ebadi on Wednesday confirmed.

United Nations (news - web sites) Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites), the winner in 2001, tread lightly, but unmistakeably, in his criticism of US foreign policy, suggesting that it would "not be wise" to attack Iraq (news - web sites).

Bush-bashing became more explicit in 2002, when Jimmy Carter won the prize, a decision which Nobel committee chairman Gunnar Berge said "can and must be interpreted as a criticism of the position of the administration currently sitting in the US towards Iraq".

Wednesday it was the turn of Iranian human rights lawyer Ebadi to take a swipe at the United States.

"In the past two years, some states have violated the universal principles and laws of human rights by using the events of September 11 and the war on international terrorism as a pretext," Ebadi said in her acceptance speech, without, however, mentioning the United States by name.

Nobel-watchers said there may be well be an anti-Bush pattern emerging around the peace prize.

"This is indeed becoming a trend", said Stein Toennesson, head of the Oslo Peace Research Institue (PRIO) said.

He added, however, that the Nobel jury probably did not intend this outcome in their most recent choice.

"The idea was to reward Ebadi for her fight in favour of women and children," he told AFP.

Ebadi may even have played a tactical game, Toennesson suspects, seeking to prove to the extremist forces in Iran that she was not, as they allege, serving Western interests.

Her criticism of the continued detention of prisoners in the US military base in Guantanamo would go in the same direction.

"I think Ebadi's main intention was not to appear as a puppet of the United States," Toennesson said, who noted that Ebadi's comments on rights abuses by the Iranian government were relatively muted.

Espen Barth Eide, researcher at the Norwegian Institute for International Affairs (NUPI) concurred.

"As a moderate Muslim, she has to show her fellow citizens that she is not close to the Americans," he said.

"People in Iran feel that the United States wants them to change. Ebadi and the moderates also want change in favour of more tolerance and more democracy. It is therefore important for her to mark the difference," he said.

Ebadi's allegations of Western double standards in applying United Nations resolutions in the Middle East would also have been designed to curry favour in Islamist circles, experts said.

Ebadi said in her speech that Iraq's refusal to respect UN resolutions provoked two wars in 12 years, while Israel continues to occupy Palestinian territory with impunity after 35 years, despite several resolutions calling for its withdrawal.

But just because criticism of Bush has become something of a tradition, the Nobel Peace Prize is not actually anti-American, said Barth Eide, citing the prize award to Carter, who is, after all, a former US president.

"The Bush administration's policies are almost systematically out of sync with international law," which is of prime importance to the Nobel jury, he said.

The award is a joke. It is living off of its name. I mean c'mon, I love being lectured on international law by the trustees of the inventor of dynamite.

Look at the long line of losers that have won this award: Koffi Annan, Arafat, Jimmy Carter, and Mikhail Gorbachev, who two weeks later sent hundreds of Russian tanks and Soviet shock troops into the Baltic states to crush a Democratic uprising there. :roll:

California Joe
12-10-2003, 06:29 PM
I won it.

mocking_loudly_died
12-10-2003, 06:33 PM
Bashing American presidents makes me feel like a real man.

California Joe
12-10-2003, 06:34 PM
I usually just put on my chainmail codpiece.

Seoulstriker
12-10-2003, 07:15 PM
at least 5 researchers on my campus won Nobel or Swedish academy prizes. :D

Haiw
12-10-2003, 07:18 PM
Hey at least they don't give us the cliché 'I want to thank my parents, my family bla bla yadda yadda' crap :)

Seoulstriker
12-10-2003, 07:19 PM
Hey at least they don't give us the cliché 'I want to thank my parents, my family bla bla yadda yadda' crap :)

michael moore used the academy awards to call bush a "ficticious president". it's hot air.

i would rather hear "i would like to thank..." than "bush is the hitler of the 21st century." ;)

ShotOver
12-10-2003, 08:01 PM
Moore is a prick, i reckon.

Don't like him one little bit, read all his books, watched his TV show.. the guy is just a sad little fat ugly man, trying to feel important.

Seoulstriker
12-10-2003, 08:04 PM
Moore is a prick, i reckon.

Don't like him one little bit, read all his books, watched his TV show.. the guy is just a sad little fat ugly man, trying to feel important.

He also lies. (www.bowlingfortruth.com).

ShotOver
12-10-2003, 08:06 PM
hahahaha, nice site, second link dosnt work though.

Jack Mehoff
12-10-2003, 08:39 PM
I like your new avatar PT rofl

Seoulstriker
12-10-2003, 08:48 PM
hahahaha, nice site, second link dosnt work though.

damn. the second one was pretty good.


try this one: http://www.moorewatch.com/

ShotOver
12-10-2003, 09:16 PM
hahaha, yeah. that site is pretty funny.

Jack Mehoff, go here: www.t-shirtsthatsuck.com

Beowulf
12-10-2003, 09:43 PM
I won it.
You too?

Zach R.
12-10-2003, 10:37 PM
Hey! It's Laura Ingraham. I got to meet her a couple weeks ago.

Seoulstriker
12-10-2003, 10:38 PM
Hey! It's Laura Ingraham. I got to meet her a couple weeks ago.

she's a babe! :D

http://66.178.131.4/images/homepics/1/laura_ingraham_homepage.jpg

Ballistic
12-11-2003, 01:18 AM
Moore is a prick, i reckon.

Don't like him one little bit, read all his books, watched his TV show.. the guy is just a sad little fat ugly man, trying to feel important.

Hahaha. So true. :lol:

I just cant bring myself to watch and listen to his lies. I'll laugh, I'll cry, but most of all, I think I'll be forced to carry out some violent act to vent my frustrations at his stupidity. Still, Im curious...... :|

Yeah, she is a babe !

GODDARD
12-11-2003, 07:11 AM
she does not look to bad but i have seen better :lol:

martinexsquaddie
12-11-2003, 07:59 AM
I like Mr Moore and if he gets up the nose of the shaved chimp even better.
Maybe George needs to get some better advisors considering the rather dubious attacks old slick willie put in and still got to be loved by half the world. Old george started after september 11 with most of the world behind him then threw it all away.
George doe'snt come across as the brightest spark in the box and has'nt quite graqsped the concept that the rest of the world does'nt go all misty eyed at the sight of the stars and stripes.

Whistler
12-11-2003, 08:10 AM
Hows Moore supposed to fit up Bush's nose? He can't even fit in his own damn bathtub.