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seruriermarshal
05-09-2005, 04:56 AM
Marines mount offensive against Iraq insurgents
27 minutes ago
BAGHDAD (*******) - U.S. Marines said on Monday they had killed 75 guerrillas in the first 24 hours of an offensive against foreign fighters and insurgents in western Anbar province.
A U.S. military statement said coalition and Marine aircraft were taking part in the offensive.
"Initial reports indicate that approximately 75 insurgents have been killed in the first 24 hours of the operation. Some foreign fighters are believed to be among the dead," the statement said.
The offensive is taking place in an area north of the Euphrates River in the al Jazira desert, a region the military said is a known smuggling route and sanctuary for foreign fighters.
Most of Iraq's insurgents are from the rebellious Anbar province.
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The Chap
05-09-2005, 05:02 AM
Sounds like a good days hunting. Could replace fox hunting :D
FVCK YEAH!
GO MARINES!!!
woot woot woot
PrincessRAR
05-09-2005, 05:05 AM
what is this war becoming stats?
alot of posts i see on here now are stats, quite sad actually :|
Argyll
05-09-2005, 05:08 AM
I wonder where the bodycount number is coming from?
I seem to remember over inflated numbers coming from a number of engagements recently,where significant claims were made,only for these claims to be refuted?
I thought the US Military didn't do "bodycounts" anymore,according to Old Rummy and the JCofS?
Good job if true.................false propaganda if not,after the last few weeks ,it's needing a good news story...........could be to detract away from the bad news lately too.
seruriermarshal
05-09-2005, 05:15 AM
I wonder where the bodycount number is coming from?
I seem to remember over inflated numbers coming from a number of engagements recently,where significant claims were made,only for these claims to be refuted?
I thought the US Military didn't do "bodycounts" anymore,according to Old Rummy and the JCofS?
Good job if true.................false propaganda if not,after the last few weeks ,it's needing a good news story...........could be to detract away from the bad news lately too.
Hi Argyll ,
:D
It must happen in Qaim , I always think there are terrorist's base (80% of them into Iraq from Syria) .
54 terrorists netted in Al Qaim raid
BAGHDAD, Iraq – Multi-national forces initiated operations north of Al Qaim May 8 to capture or kill terrorists within the Abu Musab al-Zarqawi network. Multiple sources of intelligence indicate that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’s key lieutenants, suicide bombers and a large population of foreign fighters are located in the region in and around Al Qaim.
In recent months, terrorists operating in the unstable region of Al Qaim attacked Iraqis and Coalition forces, established safe houses and facilitated the movement of foreign fighters, weapons and money from Syria into Iraq.
Simultaneous operations conducted early this morning against identified locations resulted in killing six and capturing 54 terrorists. Coalition forces also destroyed car bombs, bomb-making material and two buildings that contained large weapons caches to include hand- and rocket-propelled grenades.
Ghassan Amin, now detained, recently provided significant information regarding operations, logistics and the organization of the Zarqawi network in Baghdad and the Western corridor of Iraq. Intelligence sources also indicated terrorists from this area are known to conduct attacks in Baghdad and as far east as Fallujah.
seruriermarshal
05-09-2005, 07:45 AM
U.S. Offensive in Western Iraq Kills 75
By BASSEM MROUE, Associated Press Writer 22 minutes ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. forces have launched an offensive against insurgents in western Iraq near the Syrian border, and about 75 militants were killed in the first 24 hours, the military said Monday.
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It said the offensive, being conducted with U.S. air support in a desert area of Anbar province north of the Euphrates River, was targeting a sanctuary for foreign insurgents and a smuggling route.
The brief U.S. statement didn't say when the offensive by Marines, sailors and soldiers had begun, how many were included, or whether there had been any American casualties.
The Chicago Tribune reported Monday that more than 1,000 U.S. troops supported by fighter jets and helicopter gunships had attacked villages in and around Obeidi, a city near the Euphrates River in western Iraq not far from the Syrian border, on Sunday.
The report, by a journalist embedded with the U.S. forces, said the offensive "was seeking to uproot a persistent insurgency in an area that American intelligence indicated has become a haven for foreign fighters flowing in from Syria."
The Chicago Tribune said some of the U.S. forces were north of the Euphrates River, but most were stuck south of the waterway as engineers tried to build a pontoon bridge there Sunday.
The report quoted some Marines as saying that residents of one riverside town had turned off all their lights at night, apparently to warn neighboring towns of the approaching U.S. offensive. The reporter said the offensive was expected to last several days.
Recently, U.S. troops appear to have stepped up their attacks on suspected insurgent strongholds, including some near the Syrian border, where foreign militants may be entering the country to attack coalition forces.
For instance, on Sunday, coalition forces killed six insurgents and detained 54 suspects in raids targeting terror group al-Qaida in Iraq in Qaim, a city near Obeidi, the U.S. military said.
Insurgent violence killed nine U.S. service members in Iraq over the weekend, raising the death toll to more than 300 from a torrent of attacks in Iraq since April 28, when a new Iraqi Cabinet was approved by parliament with seven positions undecided.
Those casualties included a U.S. soldier who was killed by gunfire in Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, on Sunday, the military said.
The worst of the weekend fighting occurred in Haditha, when insurgents occupied a civilian hospital and used gunfire, rocket-propelled grenades, a suicide car bomb and a roadside bomb to kill three U.S. Marines and a sailor, the military said.
On Monday, the U.S. military provided new information about the four-hour battle in Haditha, 140 miles northwest of Baghdad. It said the insurgents used patients as human shields, even after one of their bombs set fire to the hospital.
An unspecified number of militants were killed in the battle, the military said.
At least 1,600 members of the U.S. military have now died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.
On Monday, a wave of attacks by insurgents, many of them targeting Iraqi security forces and civilians, continued in Baghdad.
A suicide car bomb killed three Iraqis, police said.
U.S. forces also detained 13 suspected militants, including one who may have plotted an attempt to kill former Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, the military said.
On Sunday, Iraq's Shiite-dominated parliament filled five of the Cabinet's seven vacancies, including four with Sunni Arab ministers. But one of the Sunnis rejected his post on the grounds of tokenism, and that tarnished the Shiite premier's bid to include the disaffected minority believed to be driving Iraq's deadly insurgency.
Monday's violence included a suicide car bomb in southern Baghdad that hit a checkpoint of two police vehicles at a busy intersection, said police Maj. Mousa Abdul Karim.
Police first said nine policemen and an Iraqi civilian had been killed. But when Karim fully examined the destruction, he reduced the death toll, saying two policemen and one civilian had been killed and six policemen and three civilians wounded.
The U.S. military announced Monday that it had conducted several raids the previous day in and around Baghdad, detaining 13 suspected insurgents, some armed with rocket-propelled grenades.
Two of the suspects were captured in a raid aimed at capturing the leader of a terror cell believed to have plotted the attempt to kill Allawi on April 20, the military said.
Allawi narrowly escaped unhurt when a suicide car bomb exploded near a police checkpoint as his convoy drove him home. At least one policeman was killed and two were wounded, police said.
Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, who was sworn in as Allawi's replacement last week, is still struggling to fill two vacant posts on his Cabinet: deputy prime minister and human rights minister.
After being appointed Sunday to the latter post, Hashim Abdul-Rahman al-Shibli said he could not accept the position.
"Concentrating on sectarian identities leads to divisions in the society and state, and for that reason I respectfully decline the post," al-Shibli said at a news conference.
When complete, the new government was to include 17 Shiite ministers, eight Kurds, six Sunnis and a Christian. Three deputy premiers also have been named — one each for the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds, with the fourth held open for a woman.
On Sunday, the Defense Ministry went to Saadoun al-Duleimi, a former lieutenant colonel in Saddam Hussein's General Security Directorate who left Iraq in 1984 and lived in exile in Saudi Arabia until Saddam's fall in April 2003. A moderate, he comes from a powerful Sunni tribe in Anbar province, the homeland of the insurgency.
The Oil Ministry was returned to Ibrahim al-Uloum, a Shiite who was accused of inexperience when he held the post in the first U.S.-picked Cabinet formed in the early months after the American-led invasion toppled Saddam.
The Kurdish environment minister, Narmin Othman, will act as human rights minister until a replacement is found, al-Jaafari's aides said.
Al-Jaafari pledged Sunday to take "all necessary measures" to restore security and said the government could impose martial law, if necessary, to fight the insurgents.
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From (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050509/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq)
Zlatko
05-09-2005, 10:11 AM
Good. Kill them all.
bunch of foreign "Freedom" fighting assholes that murder police officer recruits and civilians.
And suprisingly, no, i never supported the us invasion of iraq.
But these "insurgents", do nothing, and serve no constructive purpose.
wiking
05-09-2005, 10:30 AM
Yes, some of them are bastards with no other wish than to chalck up another dead yank, but it bothers me how there is no distinguishing between those Iraqis who fight because they are Iraqis and their country is occupied (as is their right as Iraqi citizens in Iraq with a foring military force present and enforcing their laws and oppinions).
But to brand them all as 'terrorists' is a damned stupid thing to do, and it follows the traditions of most conquering nations throughout the ages from Nazi Germany and back through history to the romans and before.
Zlatko, dont you think it was that kind of attitude that got the yanks into the problem called Abu Ghraib? That sure as hell didn't solve any problem, it just made it worse.
Zlatko
05-09-2005, 10:38 AM
I dont care about abu ghraib. That's about as simply as i can put it.
The media can lick my balls.
There's so many worse things that have happened than that, but as long as there are nice and colorful pics for cnn to smear on their network, that's fine then?
whatever.
Insurgents in Iraq = No purpose.
Hadfield
05-09-2005, 11:00 AM
Way to go Marines!
wiking
05-09-2005, 11:01 AM
Maybe it's the fact that i'm a eurowussie, but i find the whole idea of cheering when 75 ppl has been killed rather tasteless.
Seoulstriker
05-09-2005, 11:20 AM
Maybe it's the fact that i'm a eurowussie, but i find the whole idea of cheering when 75 ppl has been killed rather tasteless.
I think it's the fact that you sympathize with the goals of the insurgents.
wiking
05-09-2005, 11:26 AM
Maybe it's the fact that i'm a eurowussie, but i find the whole idea of cheering when 75 ppl has been killed rather tasteless.
I think it's the fact that you sympathize with the goals of the insurgents.
Not exactly.
I'll elaborate on that. I don't support the killing of US soldiers by extremists due to the sheer fact that they are yanks, nor the targeting of civilians.
But i do believe it is the right of the average Iraqi to resist against the occupation of their country.
American Patriot
05-09-2005, 11:36 AM
Good luck wiping those Islamofascists out woot
Ichhabe
05-09-2005, 12:08 PM
...225 new terrorists created. :(
Giving out bodycounts are so Vietnam... Tasteless and only add fuel to the fight against the new Iraqi democracy.
Most of you guys cheering here today will never let yourself stay in harms way. It is so easy to be pro-war then...
M1A2U2
05-09-2005, 12:55 PM
tell that to the cheering marines
panzerjager
05-09-2005, 01:36 PM
...225 new terrorists created. :(
Giving out bodycounts are so Vietnam... Tasteless and only add fuel to the fight against the new Iraqi democracy.
Most of you guys cheering here today will never let yourself stay in harms way. It is so easy to be pro-war then...
Oh no, Ichhabe doesn't think it's a good thing. I guess we should cut our losses and run.
joshfox0
05-09-2005, 01:47 PM
insurgents can lick my balls
good job marines
Ichhabe
05-09-2005, 01:48 PM
...225 new terrorists created. :(
Giving out bodycounts are so Vietnam... Tasteless and only add fuel to the fight against the new Iraqi democracy.
Most of you guys cheering here today will never let yourself stay in harms way. It is so easy to be pro-war then...
Oh no, Ichhabe doesn't think it's a good thing. I guess we should cut our losses and run.
What are you babbling on about? I just state my opinion as everybody else. No more no less. :bash:
LordHalbert
05-09-2005, 01:49 PM
Some of you eurowussies make me laugh.
The US and coalition are not occupying Iraq, they are freeing it :lol:
Ichhabe
05-09-2005, 01:55 PM
Some of you eurowussies make me laugh.
The US and coalition are not occupying Iraq, they are freeing it :lol:
WOOOW!!!! That was actually news to me! Honest!!!
usa320
05-09-2005, 02:15 PM
Yes, some of them are bastards with no other wish than to chalck up another dead yank, but it bothers me how there is no distinguishing between those Iraqis who fight because they are Iraqis and their country is occupied (as is their right as Iraqi citizens in Iraq with a foring military force present and enforcing their laws and oppinions).
But to brand them all as 'terrorists' is a damned stupid thing to do, and it follows the traditions of most conquering nations throughout the ages from Nazi Germany and back through history to the romans and before.
Zlatko, dont you think it was that kind of attitude that got the yanks into the problem called Abu Ghraib? That sure as hell didn't solve any problem, it just made it worse.
shut the **** up whiney bitch.
Good job marines...
woot
bloddyaxe
05-09-2005, 02:18 PM
Isn't anyone going to post pics of the scarred and mutilated corpses of those 75 filthy infidels?
panzerjager
05-09-2005, 02:19 PM
...225 new terrorists created. :(
Giving out bodycounts are so Vietnam... Tasteless and only add fuel to the fight against the new Iraqi democracy.
Most of you guys cheering here today will never let yourself stay in harms way. It is so easy to be pro-war then...
Oh no, Ichhabe doesn't think it's a good thing. I guess we should cut our losses and run.
What are you babbling on about? I just state my opinion as everybody else. No more no less. :bash:
And I'm just stating how I think your opinion sucks. No more, no less. :fork:
PhillyMobster
05-09-2005, 02:25 PM
...225 new terrorists created. :(
Giving out bodycounts are so Vietnam... Tasteless and only add fuel to the fight against the new Iraqi democracy.
Most of you guys cheering here today will never let yourself stay in harms way. It is so easy to be pro-war then...
Uhh, what is with all these people who constantly feel its neccesary to invoke Vietnam? I guess we should just not mention any success whatsoever, and continue to let the media play the doom and gloom game, right?
Bluezoo
05-09-2005, 02:53 PM
Great news! woot
wiking
05-09-2005, 04:08 PM
Yes, some of them are bastards with no other wish than to chalck up another dead yank, but it bothers me how there is no distinguishing between those Iraqis who fight because they are Iraqis and their country is occupied (as is their right as Iraqi citizens in Iraq with a foring military force present and enforcing their laws and oppinions).
But to brand them all as 'terrorists' is a damned stupid thing to do, and it follows the traditions of most conquering nations throughout the ages from Nazi Germany and back through history to the romans and before.
Zlatko, dont you think it was that kind of attitude that got the yanks into the problem called Abu Ghraib? That sure as hell didn't solve any problem, it just made it worse.
shut the **** up whiney bitch.
Good job marines...
woot
That's very mature you sodding wanker.
You insult like a ponce ;)
Strider
05-09-2005, 04:35 PM
Yes, some of them are bastards with no other wish than to chalck up another dead yank, but it bothers me how there is no distinguishing between those Iraqis who fight because they are Iraqis and their country is occupied (as is their right as Iraqi citizens in Iraq with a foring military force present and enforcing their laws and oppinions).
Occupied is a negative word. If they were indeed "occupied" then we wouldn't be building new schools, hospitals, etc. etc. and we would be in there terrorizing the civilian population. Learn the language before you try to use it.
Pooga
05-09-2005, 04:43 PM
Saying Americans occupy Iraq is like saying teachers occupy schools. Yeah, ok, they work there, but without them schools would go nowhere.
wiking
05-09-2005, 04:50 PM
Soldiers of one nation being present in another soverign nation is an act of war, or occupation once the actual war is over.
Pooga
05-09-2005, 05:02 PM
Soldiers of one nation being present in another soverign nation is an act of war, or occupation once the actual war is over.
I hope you're not one of the forum guys who's said "the world is not black and white." Cuz if you are I'd have to request you sit in the Hippo Crate for a while.
wiking
05-09-2005, 05:08 PM
let me refrase it then, an occupation is not defined as an occupation or as a liberation by the attacker, but by the the occupied\liberated peoples reaction to forementioned occupation\liberation.
And the majority does not decide, every free man must choose for himself what he believes it is.
MacDaddy
05-09-2005, 05:38 PM
It's been so long since the Iraqi people made a real choice in their lives, they don't know how to. You POS Euro trash forget why you're not speaking German right now. France can't find it's ass with both hands, and Germany couldn't make an informed decision if it was forced on them.
More power to the US and Coalition Forces who are making the effort to wipe the stinking ass of the Middle East, a turd polishing job if I ever saw one.
Right on Marines, get some.
It's a good way to reduce the clutter in Saudi Arabia and Syria, just keep sending those morons across the border.
The rest of you fruitcakes, if you don't get it, don't try, and remember that your analytical diatribe doesn't cut it. Never has. It's an excuse for inaction, never ending apathetical sickening laziness, insecurity and self indulgence. Go paint your sisters toenails or something...Geez.
Pooga
05-09-2005, 05:40 PM
*Dives behind sandbags, plunks on generic helmet, and peeks over edge*
wiking
05-09-2005, 05:49 PM
It's been so long since the Iraqi people made a real choice in their lives, they don't know how to. You POS Euro trash forget why you're not speaking German right now. France can't find it's ass with both hands, and Germany couldn't make an informed decision if it was forced on them.
More power to the US and Coalition Forces who are making the effort to wipe the stinking ass of the Middle East, a turd polishing job if I ever saw one.
Right on Marines, get some.
It's a good way to reduce the clutter in Saudi Arabia and Syria, just keep sending those morons across the border.
The rest of you fruitcakes, if you don't get it, don't try, and remember that your analytical diatribe doesn't cut it. Never has. It's an excuse for inaction, never ending apathetical sickening laziness, insecurity and self indulgence. Go paint your sisters toenails or something...Geez.
You just stepped in it mate.
Go read a sodding history book.
And while you're at it, go sodomize yourself with a retractable baton.
*shouts at pooga to get his head and arse back down behind the sandbags*
CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 06:01 PM
first post. some people have said that the insurgents are just defending themselves from the occupier. well than why are they blowing up innocent civilians? we are there to help the Iraqi people, and thats what we are doing, all they are doing is killing innocent civilians and our soldiers.
wiking
05-09-2005, 06:08 PM
first post. some people have said that the insurgents are just defending themselves from the occupier. well than why are they blowing up innocent civilians? we are there to help the Iraqi people, and thats what we are doing, all they are doing is killing innocent civilians and our soldiers.
That's not what i said, let me carify it, some are targeting civilians, but not all. What i don't agree with is that there is no separation between them.
Those who target civilians and those who are nothing but patriotic Iraqis who are fighting because they are Iraqis in Iraq who don't want a forign military presence in their nation are both branded as terrorists.
CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 06:12 PM
if the insurgents really cared about their country than they would join the national army and stop poluting the world with their ****. so your telling me that some marine has to say "wait did this guy kill civilians" before he shoots the guy that is shooting at him?
Umm-Qasr
05-09-2005, 06:14 PM
first post. some people have said that the insurgents are just defending themselves from the occupier. well than why are they blowing up innocent civilians? we are there to help the Iraqi people, and thats what we are doing, all they are doing is killing innocent civilians and our soldiers.
That's not what i said, let me carify it, some are targeting civilians, but not all. What i don't agree with is that there is no separation between them.
Those who target civilians and those who are nothing but patriotic Iraqis who are fighting because they are Iraqis in Iraq who don't want a forign military presence in their nation are both branded as terrorists.Yeah sure mate. The guys who are attacking the US are the same guys who were in control under the regime of Saddam. They are the same guys who killed, raped, tortuered and destroyed the Iraqi people. And those guys are angry that they are not in power anymore. Why aren't the groups who were the victims under saddam, not fighting the US at the moment? Aren't they patriotic and dont they love their country? Come on man :|
wiking
05-09-2005, 06:18 PM
first post. some people have said that the insurgents are just defending themselves from the occupier. well than why are they blowing up innocent civilians? we are there to help the Iraqi people, and thats what we are doing, all they are doing is killing innocent civilians and our soldiers.
That's not what i said, let me carify it, some are targeting civilians, but not all. What i don't agree with is that there is no separation between them.
Those who target civilians and those who are nothing but patriotic Iraqis who are fighting because they are Iraqis in Iraq who don't want a forign military presence in their nation are both branded as terrorists.Yeah sure mate. The guys who are attacking the US are the same guys who were in control under the regime of Saddam. They are the same guys who killed, raped, tortuered and destroyed the Iraqi people. And those guys are angry that they are not in power anymore. Why aren't the groups who were the victims under saddam, not fighting the US at the moment? Aren't they patriotic and dont they love their country? Come on man :|
How do you know?
Have you asked every single one of them?
Ofcourse, neither have i, but more than once Iraqis have said that is what they are doing (members of the Iraqi soccer team who from Fallujah said that if they weren't playing in the World championship they'd be fighting for example, and there is a fair amount of more)
Your asumptions are standard of the media propaganda brainwashed americans that pops up on this forum and starts a load of ****, like MacDaddy.
CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 06:20 PM
how about asking the 5,000 kurds gassed in Northern Iraq, ask the newly found 1500 kurds in a mass grave, ask the guy who had his hand and tungue cut off for not winning a soccer game.
CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 06:27 PM
and by the way, have you asked every insurgent what they're fighting for? here's the facts, the vast majority of insurgents do bomb civilians and commit other OTTROCITIES. do you see US soldiers walking down streets and shooting people, no, we are the good guys in Iraq and the insurgents are nothing but backwards children yelling praise allaha while killing people like you and me, and if you think that they are just patriotic men defending their homeland, than not all of your dogs are barking
wiking
05-09-2005, 06:30 PM
That happened under Saddam. How can you compare them.
You don't KNOW those ppl are the same that are fighting now.
Saddam was a hell of alot more "persuasive" when it came to keeping the people from revolting, so even those who wanted to couldn't (like the ones who were masacered after President Bush senior encouraged the Iraqi ppl to revolt after the first war in Iraq)
But those ppl, who want to live in Iraq as the nation they knew it before saddam, with a few modernizations, and not being ruled or told how and what by anyone, may be alot of the ppl who are fighting you now. Not all, and alot of them don't have honourable intentions, but the fact that all and any who even look at a US soldier the wrong way is a "terrorist", that's what i find wrong.
Living in a country that was occupied from 1940 until the German surrender on May 8th 1945, i have learned to respect any man who fights for his country against a forign military presence. Call it patriotism, call it resistance, or call it terrorism. It all comes down to what side your on. (as an example, the resistance forces of the occupied countrys in WW2 were called terrorists by the Germans, and were executed as such when caught. The only reason why they are celebrated as heroes today is because their side won.)
first post. some people have said that the insurgents are just defending themselves from the occupier. well than why are they blowing up innocent civilians? we are there to help the Iraqi people, and thats what we are doing, all they are doing is killing innocent civilians and our soldiers.
That's not what i said, let me carify it, some are targeting civilians, but not all. What i don't agree with is that there is no separation between them.
Those who target civilians and those who are nothing but patriotic Iraqis who are fighting because they are Iraqis in Iraq who don't want a forign military presence in their nation are both branded as terrorists.Yeah sure mate. The guys who are attacking the US are the same guys who were in control under the regime of Saddam. They are the same guys who killed, raped, tortuered and destroyed the Iraqi people. And those guys are angry that they are not in power anymore. Why aren't the groups who were the victims under saddam, not fighting the US at the moment? Aren't they patriotic and dont they love their country? Come on man :|
How do you know?
Have you asked every single one of them?
Ofcourse, neither have i, but more than once Iraqis have said that is what they are doing (members of the Iraqi soccer team who from Fallujah said that if they weren't playing in the World championship they'd be fighting for example, and there is a fair amount of more)
Your asumptions are standard of the media propaganda brainwashed americans that pops up on this forum and starts a load of ****, like MacDaddy.
wiking, you're in no position to accuse others of being brainwashed when you yourself are an example of the quintessential single-track biased media consuming European. You're every bit as bad as the disciples of FOX News you abhor. The fact that you accuse someone like Umm-Qasr (an Iraqi living in NL) of being a brainwashed American further plunges you credibility and respectability to new lows.
CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 06:35 PM
he wasn't good at convincing people, when ever anyone stood up against him, he killed them. I can compare the insurgents because they are blowing up innocent people, torturing people, and beheading people, which is what saddam did.
MacDaddy
05-09-2005, 06:38 PM
#1. S**t for brains, I'm not your mate.
You however are a wannabe intellectual who thinks all is black and white. I'm certain your country has benefited from some kind of assistance from the US, of which you are probably unaware or ungrateful.
I also could care less about that. And if I'm wrong about anything given by the US to your country, wait awhile, it will have it's hand out sooner or later.
And finally never assume that sodomy with a baton is looked at as a bad thing, you presumtive idiot. Any more assumptions?
CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 06:42 PM
and to compare the insurgents to your relatives in Norway is laughable. you know that some of the insurgents are Al-qauida, the people who brought down the towers. and to call them "patriotic freedom fighters" really pisses me the hell off because my brother lost his best friend in Iraq by an RPG attack on his convoy launch by those stupid pricks, so this is starting to get personal with me.
seruriermarshal
05-09-2005, 06:57 PM
To wiking , coalition's soldiers killed are good news , Iraq terrorists killed are sad news .
Umm-Qasr
05-09-2005, 07:01 PM
That happened under Saddam. How can you compare them.
You don't KNOW those ppl are the same that are fighting now.
Saddam was a hell of alot more "persuasive" when it came to keeping the people from revolting, so even those who wanted to couldn't (like the ones who were masacered after President Bush senior encouraged the Iraqi ppl to revolt after the first war in Iraq)
But those ppl, who want to live in Iraq as the nation they knew it before saddam, with a few modernizations, and not being ruled or told how and what by anyone, may be alot of the ppl who are fighting you now. Not all, and alot of them don't have honourable intentions, but the fact that all and any who even look at a US soldier the wrong way is a "terrorist", that's what i find wrong.
Living in a country that was occupied from 1940 until the German surrender on May 8th 1945, i have learned to respect any man who fights for his country against a forign military presence. Call it patriotism, call it resistance, or call it terrorism. It all comes down to what side your on. (as an example, the resistance forces of the occupied countrys in WW2 were called terrorists by the Germans, and were executed as such when caught. The only reason why they are celebrated as heroes today is because their side won.)Then maybe you should be glad that the US and Canada helped Europe destroying the evil Nazi-regime ... :|
CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 07:02 PM
i would agree. dead insurgents puts a smile on my face, and you know what Norway guy, it puts a smile on the Iraqi citizens faces.
seruriermarshal
05-09-2005, 07:05 PM
Umm-Qasr , how are you ?
:D
U.S. Attack in Iraq Kills 100 Insurgents
By ALEXANDRA ZAVIS, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Hundreds of American troops backed by helicopter gunships and warplanes swept into remote desert villages near the Syrian border Monday, hunting for followers of Iraq's most wanted terrorist and reportedly killing as many as 100 militants since the weekend operation began.
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The U.S. military said some foreign fighters were believed among the insurgents killed in the first 48 hours of the assault, which began late Saturday in the border town of Qaim, about 200 miles west of Baghdad. At least three Marines were killed in the region, it said.
U.S. officials described the area as a known smuggling route and a haven for foreign fighters involved in Iraq's insurgency.The assault was the biggest U.S. offensives since the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah fell last fall.
Meanwhile, militants claimed in an Internet posting to have captured a Japanese man after ambushing a international British security company's convoy in western Iraq. A spokesman for the company confirmed the employee was missing.
It wasn't clear whether Sunday's attack was related to the U.S. operation, which was about 80 miles away.
The offensive was being conducted by Regimental Combat Team 2, a joint force of about 1,000 Marines, sailors and soldiers commanded by the 2nd Marine Division, and expected to last several days in an area along the Euphrates River in the al-Jazirah Desert, said Capt. Jeffrey Pool, a Marine spokesman.
A senior military official in Washington said the offensive was targeting followers of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, leader of Al-Qaida in Iraq, who are believed operating in the remote region.
"This is an area which we believe has been pretty heavy with foreign insurgents from many different areas — Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Palestine," said Lt. Col. Steven Boylan, a spokesman for U.S. forces in Iraq. "That's a fairly porous area of the border because of the terrain. It is very difficult."
Acting on information from a captured al-Zarqawi associate, U.S. forces moved into Qaim overnight Saturday, killing six insurgents and detaining 54 suspects, the military said in a statement. Local residents were providing a "wealth of information," about the insurgency and foreign fighters in their area, Pool said.
On Sunday, troops moved into villages in and around Obeidi, a town about 185 miles west of Baghdad, and started to pushed north across the Euphrates, according to The Chicago Tribune, which has a reporter embedded with the combat team.
"Our analysis is that there's a foreign fighter flow from Syria," Col. Stephen Davis, commander of Regimental Combat Team 2, told the Tribune. "The trademark of these folks is to be where we're not. We haven't got north of the river for a while."
The newspaper quoted some Marines as saying residents of one riverside town turned off all their lights at night, apparently to warn neighboring villages of the approaching U.S. forces.
Frightened residents cowered in their homes Monday as bombs exploded and warplanes roared overhead.
"It's truly horrific, there are snipers everywhere, rockets, no food, no electricity," said Abu Omar al-Ani, a father of three reached by telephone in Qaim. "Today five rockets fell in front of my house ... we are mentally exhausted."
The push comes amid a surge of militant attacks that have killed more than 310 people since April 28, when the new Iraqi government was announced.
At least four car bombs — including two suicide attacks — exploded in Baghdad, killing at least five people and wounding 15, police said.
The militant group Ansar al-Sunnah Army said it had taken Japanese citizen Akihito Saito, 44, as a hostage, posting a photocopy of his passport, including his picture, on the group's Web site.
The group claimed its fighters ambushed a convoy of five foreign contract workers protected by a dozen Iraqi security men near Hit, 90 miles west of Baghdad. It claimed all were killed in the fight except for Saito, who it said was "severely injured."
An ID card posted on the Internet identified Saito as a security manager for Hart GMSSCO, a Cyprus-based security firm. Hart CEO Simon Falkner said in London that there was an ambush with casualties Sunday night involving Hart personnel.
Later, a spokesman for Hart said Saito was among a number of the company's workers who were unaccounted for after the attack.
"We can confirm that a number of Hart personnel are unaccounted for and one of them is Mr. Saito," the spokesman said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The Kyodo news agency in Japan said a senior Foreign Ministry official quoted Saito's parents as saying the man in the picture looked like their son.
The family of another hostage, Australian national Douglas Wood, offered Monday to make a generous "charitable donation" to the people of Iraq to secure his freedom. Australia's top Muslim cleric was traveling to Baghdad to try to negotiate his release.
Militants who kidnapped the 63-year-old California resident released a video Friday demanding that Australia start pulling its troops out of Iraq within 72 hours. The deadline passed Monday with no word of his fate.
Iraq's new Shiite Arab premier had hoped to dent support for the escalating insurgency by including members of the disaffected Sunni Arab minority in his new government.
Five new Cabinet members were sworn in Monday, four of them Sunnis. But a Sunni selected to be human rights minister turned down the job Sunday on the grounds of tokenism.
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CONSERVATIVE53
05-09-2005, 07:06 PM
does that make 175 or just 75+25 more?
Umm-Qasr
05-09-2005, 07:08 PM
Umm-Qasr , how are you ?
:D
U.S. Attack in Iraq Kills 100 Insurgents
By ALEXANDRA ZAVIS, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Hundreds of American troops backed by helicopter gunships and warplanes swept into remote desert villages near the Syrian border Monday, hunting for followers of Iraq's most wanted terrorist and reportedly killing as many as 100 militants since the weekend operation began. I'm doing quite Ok and I'm enjoying the news you post: forza Iraq! :D
Erik2a4
05-09-2005, 07:08 PM
let me refrase it then, an occupation is not defined as an occupation or as a liberation by the attacker, but by the the occupied\liberated peoples reaction to forementioned occupation\liberation.
This simply seems to be an argument of semantics. It changes nothing either way.
And the majority does not decide, every free man must choose for himself what he believes it is.
And then the free man must decide if he will adhere to the tenets of his community. The good of the many outweight the needs of a few in most extreme cases. War would be an example.
seruriermarshal
05-09-2005, 07:10 PM
does that make 175 or just 75+25 more?
Have no more informations , Seems like A lot of soldiers into there .
seruriermarshal
05-09-2005, 07:13 PM
Umm-Qasr , how are you ?
:D
U.S. Attack in Iraq Kills 100 Insurgents
By ALEXANDRA ZAVIS, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Hundreds of American troops backed by helicopter gunships and warplanes swept into remote desert villages near the Syrian border Monday, hunting for followers of Iraq's most wanted terrorist and reportedly killing as many as 100 militants since the weekend operation began. I'm doing quite Ok and I'm enjoying the news you post: forza Iraq! :D
I hope Iraq strong and peace , then I believe coalition will leave there .
I'll over my post about Iraq , when there take peace .
:D
Sloppy Joe2
05-10-2005, 01:58 AM
i think wiking is correct in which he says the people of a country have right to fight a foreign occupier, however it is the matter in which the insurgents fight it that separates them into a wrong. insurgent forces under every organized group have not publicly denied attacking civilians to my knowledge, this small effort would separate them from "freedom fighter" and "terrorist". celebrating loss of life in my mind is justified by the fact that you know those that were killed would work to kill those in the process of helping and innocent people who serve no threat to insurgent forces.
good job marines!!!!
pathfinder82
05-10-2005, 02:07 AM
Most likely inflated numbers, but one less is one less.
ckabusk
05-10-2005, 02:13 AM
Good job, marines. I cant wait for an another new video!!
wiking
05-10-2005, 03:36 AM
I see there are a few things that need to be straightened out.
I take no pleasure in US casualties, i have a large number of relatives in America, one who is a helicopter technician and was wounded in Iraq.
Another good friend i made when i was there is a former marine.
This emidiate assumption that European media is anti-american is getting old, I don't put my trust to any media whatsoever, atleast not for forign news. My views are based on media sources around the world (thanks to the internet) and i read alot of views and make up my own mind.
And allso a hobby-based interest of history.
We disagree, but don't make assumptions about my political views, or that i share your necrophilic pleasure in hearing death numbers from Iraq(but reversed).
I find cheering death numbers tasteless and stupid, i didn't say Iraqi death numbers, but death numbers in general.
Stop thinking of me like some stupid european 14 year old with a wish to join up as a suicide bomber, i can honestly assure you i'm not.
wiking
05-10-2005, 03:40 AM
And to whoever started bitching about "you probably got some help from the us... :backhand: ..."
If you want a brief rundown of what the US did to aid Norway in WW2 and to defend against the Russians during the cold war, here it is:
Not a damned thing.
If you want a more thorough list, please ask for it,
Argyll
05-10-2005, 03:45 AM
This topic has got lost in its original title,it;s turned into a bashing topic.....................therfore it's done and dusted and locked!!!
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