Today's Pic's. Dec. 12

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Kauai, Hawaii (Dec. 11, 2003) -- A Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) is launched from the Aegis cruiser USS Lake Erie (CG 70) as part of the Missile Defense Agency's latest Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) test to defeat a medium range ballistic missile threat. The SM-3, part of the Aegis Weapon System intercepted a target launched from the Pacific Missile Range Facility, Barking Sands, Kauai, Hawaii at an approximate speed of 3.7 kilometers per second. The two missiles collided several hundred kilometers from Kauai at an altitude of approximately 137 kilometers. The BMDS test included evaluation of the long-range surveillance and tracking capabilities of two Navy ships, the effective communications between the ships and command and control units in Colorado, and the launch of the SM-3 interceptor. This was the fourth successful intercept for the sea-based element of the BMDS. U.S. Navy photo. (RELEASED)


Here's one for Operation Ivy...

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Soldiers in their M1A1 Abrams tank patrol a street in Baghdad, Iraq. The Soldiers are assigned to 1st Armored Division's Company A, Task Force 1st Battalion, 35th Armor Regiment. Photo courtesy of the Department of Defense.

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Spc. Janet Sutter provides security during a mission in Baghdad, Iraq. Sutter is assigned to the 233rd Military Police (MP) Company, 519th MP Battalion, 18th MP Brigade. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Marvin L. Daniels.

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A captain briefs key leaders of the 3rd Battalion, 124th Infantry Regiment, on a plan for a mission to conduct searches for illegal weapons and terrorists in Baghdad, Iraq. Each mission is carefully planned and thoroughly rehearsed to make sure objectives are met. U.S. Army photo by Spc. Darryl T. Magby.


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Japanese Self-Defense Ground Force soldiers demonstrate a water purification process during a drill opened to the medial at Chitose, northern Japan, on Thursday December 11, 2003. In a public display, soldiers from the Self-Defense Ground Force Northern Army demonstrated the kinds of activities they may perform in Iraq (news - web sites). On Tuesday, the government approved a plan to dispatch about 1,000 soldiers to help rebuild Iraq. (AP Photo/Kyodo)

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A Greek army mine sweeper marks a grid with tape before searching for mines on the outskirts of Hillah, south of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, Thursday Dec 11, 2003. (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

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An unidentified Spanish soldier, center, cries as he hugs his parents after his arrival in Santiago de Compostela, Spain, Thursday Dec. 11, 2003, with another 106 soldiers for a few days of leave from duty in Iraq (news - web sites). (AP Photo/EFE, Lavandeira)


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10 Dec 03 - Kabul, Afghanistan
Singer Tom Cochrane (centre), steps off a Bison armoured vehicle after arriving at Camp Julien, Kabul, Afghanistan. The singer is in Afghanistan along with comedian Rick Mercer (rear) to tape a Christmas Special in honour of Canadian troops serving overseas during the holidays. Rick Mercer’s Christmas in Kabul, airs on CBC television, December 21st at 8:00pm.

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11 Dec 03 - Kabul, Afghanistan
Comedian Rick Mercer (centre), along with Sgt Paul Ogilvie (left) and MCpl Sean Rhoads (right) both from Quebec Company of the 3rd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group (3RCR Bn Gp), tape a segment for Rick Mercer’s Christmas in Kabul, to be aired on CBC television, December 21st at 8:00pm.

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Chaplain Arek Skawarek (left), Sgt Kelly MacKinnon (center), and Cpl Marek Smid (right), from 24 Field Squadron, tape a segment for comedian Rick Mercer’s Christmas in Kabul, to be aired on CBC television, December 21st at 8:00pm.

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Happy Holidays!

Comedian Rick Mercer (centre), and members of the Quick Reaction Force from Charles Company of the 3rd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group (3RCR Bn Gp) tape a segment for Rick Mercer’s Christmas in Kabul, to be aired on CBC television, December 21st at 8:00pm.

[Clay]

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Man I love this man. he is my hero! YAYA!! for rick!

[Marxist203]

I like how CBC does stuff like this with the army...thank god for State run television! you never see stuff like this in the US, may'be cause the government doesn't own a Television station?

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Rick Mercer is my hero, thats some good **** hes keeping our boys happy. I cant wait to see that episode, it should be classic.

[Operation Ivy]

Here's one for Operation Ivy
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woot woot woot Very Good Pic

[uri]

relevant movies & photos :

More Photos
http://www.4law.co.il/agis1203.htm
Videos
http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/html/video.html
Aegis Cruisers & Destroyers in Iraq Videos
http://www.4law.co.il/L575.html
Aegis Destroyer
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dtaylor/ns201/Movies/Aegis%20Alliance.avi
Tomahawks fired from USS Donald Cook
http://www.4law.co.il/L633.ram
Fifth & Sixth Tomahawak Launches from USS Bunker Hill
http://www.4law.co.il/Le603.asf
USS Milius Daytime Tomahak Missile Launch
http://www.4law.co.il/Le602.asf

special thanks to BOAZGU (Fresh Scoops Forum)

[Whistler]

I like how CBC does stuff like this with the army...thank god for State run television! you never see stuff like this in the US, may'be cause the government doesn't own a Television station?

The US Government running a television station would be hilarious :D . CNN and Fox already get bashed all the time for being "tools of the Administration", imagine all the bashing that would if the Govt really DID run the TV station! :-*$

The Americans do get those kind of visits a lot though... what do they call it? WSO or something? They have all kinds of huge celebrity visits with the troops. I think Mariah Carey did one in Bosnia a while back.

As for the CBC and our state run television... ugh. Gee lets just watch what the Government wants us too, maybe next we can rename the Parliament to "Politburo" :roll: .

Rick Mercer is a great guy, I'll give him props, but theres no way I'm gonna give props to the ultra-biased CBC. ;)

[Deuterium]

I like how CBC does stuff like this with the army...thank god for State run television! you never see stuff like this in the US, may'be cause the government doesn't own a Television station?

The US Government running a television station would be hilarious :D . CNN and Fox already get bashed all the time for being "tools of the Administration", imagine all the bashing that would if the Govt really DID run the TV station! :-*$

The Americans do get those kind of visits a lot though... what do they call it? WSO or something? They have all kinds of huge celebrity visits with the troops. I think Mariah Carey did one in Bosnia a while back.

As for the CBC and our state run television... ugh. Gee lets just watch what the Government wants us too, maybe next we can rename the Parliament to "Politburo" :roll: .

Rick Mercer is a great guy, I'll give him props, but theres no way I'm gonna give props to the ultra-biased CBC. ;)

The US does run NUMEROUS TV and radio stations. AFRTS and VOA.

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Ultra-biased CBC eh? Thats why they always do reports and investigate government screw ups and scandals, ironically CBC seems to break the news alot faster then any other news station in Canada. Does that seem bias to you?

To me its tax dollars well spent, and by the way, maybe you should do a lil research on your own country's news television and radio before posting. I do see that Deut has proven you wrong.

[He219]

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A North Korean soldier looks at South Korean soldiers at the border village of Panmunjom, north of Seoul, Friday, Dec. 12, 2003.

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North Korean soldiers march at the border village of Panmunjom, north of Seoul, Friday, Dec. 12, 2003.

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EU diplomats are welcomed by officials from the U.S.-led United Nations Command and the European Union upon their arrival at the border village of Panumjom, north of Seoul, Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. The nine-member delegation made a rare journey Friday across the heavily fortified no-man's land separating the two Koreas after a three-day visit to the North amid heightened tensions over Pyongyang's nuclear program. (AP Photo/Lee Jin-man)


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Guido Martini of Italy, center, who led a nine-member EU delegation, is greeted by South Korean Army Maj. Gen. Park Hung-hwan, left, as he crosses over a concrete curb signifying the border of two Koreas at the border village of the Panumjom, north of Seoul, Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. The group of European diplomats made a rare journey Friday across the heavily fortified no-man's land separating the two Koreas after a three-day visit to the North amid heightened tensions over Pyongyang's nuclear program. (AP Photo/Lee Jin-man)

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A Palestinian boy runs behind an Israeli army tank during an army operation in the West Bank town of Jenin on December 12, 2003. Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie warned Israel on Friday that a barrier wall it is building inside the West Bank would kill off a U.S.-backed peace plan. *******/Saeed Dahlah

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A Palestinian youth tries to climb onto an Israeli army armoured personnel carrier as it patrols the streets of the northern West Bank town of Jenin enforcing a curfew Friday Dec. 12, 2003. Israeli army tanks, jeeps and armored personnel carriers entered Jenin and soldiers went house to house in search of militants, witnesses said. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)


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Seen through a hole caused by an Israeli amy shell, Palestinian Foezeey Doish, father of the Islamic Jihad militant Ahmed Doish killed Sept. 9 by Israeli troops, carries some of his belongings as he goes through the rubble of the family's one-story house demolished by Israeli forces earlier in the day, in the southern West Bank village of Dura, near Hebron, Friday Dec. 12, 2003. The Israeli army regularly demolish houses of Palestinian militants, an act Palestinians consider collective punishment. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi)

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An unidentified relative of the Islamic Jihad militant Ahmed Doish, killed Sept. 9 by Israeli troops, goes through the rubble of the family's one-story house which was demolished by Israeli forces earlier today, in the southern West Bank village of Dura, near Hebron, Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. The Israeli army regularly demolish houses of Palestinian militants, an act Palestinians consider collective punishment. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi)

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Palestinian Muslim men pray at the construction site for the new Jewish neighborhood of 'Nof Zahav,' in the village of Jabel Mukaber in East Jerusalem Friday Dec, 12, 2003. Local Palestinians and Israeli human rights groups have protested the construction of Jewish neighborhoods within tradtional Arab areas of East Jerusalem. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)
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A masked Palestinian member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades set a van ablaze in the northern West Bank refugee camp of Balata, adjacent to the city of Nablus Friday Dec. 12, 2003. Earlier, Palestinian gunmen ambushed the van carrying ultra-Orthodox Jews who had been praying at a holy site where Jews believe the biblical Joseph is buried, wounding seven passengers, two seriously. Israel abandoned the site in October 2000, at the beginning of three years of violence, and banned Israelis from going there but some observant Jews defy military orders and circumvent the military roadblock to enter the site. (AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)

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Paramedics rush an injured Israeli on a stretcher into the Tel Hashomer Hospital near Tel Aviv after he was wounded in a shooting attack in Nablus early Friday Dec. 12, 2003. Seven Israelis were shot and wounded, one critically, early Friday in Nablus as they tried to enter Joseph's Tomb, a disputed holy site. (AP Photo/Ariel Schalit)

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Final touches for Saturday's loya jirga are in progress at the vicinity of the venue in Kabul, Afghanistan, Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. The loya jirga, or a grand council, to discuss draft constitution for Afghanistan on Saturday. The loya jirga is considered a cornerstone event in Afghanistan's long path to recovery after U.S.-led forces ousted the hardline Taliban regime two years ago. (AP Photo/B.K.Bangash)



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U.S. Air Force Firefighters practice moving a litter onto a U.S. Army UH-60 at Kirkuk Air Base, Iraq Dec. 5, 2003. The members of the 506th Expeditionary Fire Department have assisted the 54th Medical Air Ambulance extract injured soldiers and civilians in Northern Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Operation Iraqi Freedom is a multi-national coalition effort to liberate the Iraqi people, element Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and end the regime of Saddam Hussein. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Suzanne M. Jenkins)(Released)

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Range officer, Corporal Greg Maxted, Australian Air Traffic Control Detachment, Task Unit 633.4.2, demonstrates how to fire various weapons to fellow Australian's and American's with the 447th Office of Special Investigations at the Baghdad International Airport firing range, Baghdad, Iraq, Dec. 04, 2003. Operation Iraqi Freedom is a multi-national coalition effort to liberate the Iraqi people and eliminate Iraqi's weapons of mass destruction and the regime of Saddam Hussein. (US Air Force Photo By Staff Sgt. Stacy L. Pearsall) (released)

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U.S. Army doctors with the 250th Forward Surgical Team, work with Iraqi doctors to remove a tumor from the lung of a man in Kirkuk, Iraq, Dec. 9, 2003. DoD photo by Staff Sgt. Jeffrey A. Wolfe, U.S. Air Force. (Released)

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LIFESAVERS — U.S. Army Major Ben Starnes from the 250th Forward Surgical Team, left, exchanges ideas with Iraqi Dr. Nadim Ibrahim after the two performed a procedure at a hospital in Kirkuk, Iraq, that saved the life of a three-hour-old Iraqi girl whose trachea and esophagus not formed properly, Dec. 9, 2003. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Jeffrey A. Wolfe

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Capt. Amber Hosier with the 250th Forward Surgical Team, examines a 3-hour old Iraqi girl in Kirkuk, Iraq, Dec. 9, 2003. The baby was born without a fully formed trachea and esophagus. Local Iraqi doctors have combined with doctors from the 250th to perform a procedure that could save the infant’s life. DoD photo by Staff Sgt. Jeffrey A. Wolfe, U.S. Air Force. (Released)

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US bombs never hit Saddam Hussein's grandiose presidential palace in Baghdad, making its ample meeting rooms and vast conference tables an ideal headquarters for US-led occupation authorities after the war. (USMC file)

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Going Home - U.S. Army soldiers wait for their departure flight from Baghdad International Airport, Iraq, Dec. 8, 2003. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Verlin Levi Collins. Related: A Pentagon audit has found Vice President **** Cheney's former company may have overcharged the Army by $1.09 per gallon for nearly 57 million gallons of gasoline delivered to citizens in Iraq, senior defense officials say. (USAF)

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U.S. Army soldiers shoot the breeze as they wait for their departure flight from Baghdad International Airport, Iraq, Dec. 8, 2003. U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Verlin Levi Collins

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U.S. soldier gives candy to Iraqi children in Baghdad Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

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U.S. soldier throws candy to Iraqi children in Baghdad Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

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Black Hawk helicopter patrols the area of Saddam Hussein 's hometown of Tikrit, north of Baghdad, Friday, Dec. 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)


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U.S. soldiers inspect the spot where explosive went off as their convoy was passing by in Baghdad Friday, Dec 12 , 2003. Soldiers on the ground said nobody was hurt in the explosion. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

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EOD

U.S. soldiers inspect the spot where explosives went off as their convoy was passing by in Baghdad Friday, Dec 12 , 2003. Soldiers on the ground said nobody was hurt in the explosion. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

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U.S. award-winning photojournalist James Nachtwey, right, rides on the top of a U.S. Humvee during a patrol in central Baghdad in this April 17, 2003 photo. Nachtwey, known for haunting images of war and poverty, and Time magazine senior correspondent Michael Weisskopf were wounded late Wednesday Dec. 10, 2003, in Baghdad along with two U.S. soldiers when a grenade was tossed into their Humvee, while travelling with a U.S. Army patrol from the army's 1st Armored Division, the military and the magazine said. (AP Photo/David Guttenfelder)


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South Korean female soldier searches an Iraqi woman at the Korean-run hospital inside the US Tallil air base. US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) defended barring foes of the Iraq (news - web sites) war from bidding for reconstruction contracts, but hinted he would ease the policy for those who considered forgiving Baghdad's debts(AFP/Abdelhak Senna)

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U.S. soldiers pose for picture in front of a huge bust of the ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) outside the al-Salam palace December 12, 2003 in Baghdad. Four busts of the former Iraqi president were taken down from the roof of the palace in so the called 'Green Zone' recently. *******/Goran Tomasevic

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Filipino soldiers take their oath after finishing a counter-terrorism training course December 12, 2003 in Clark Air Base in the northern Philippines. The training was part of the $25 million aid given by the U.S. government to the Philippines in its fight against terror. *******/Erik de Castro

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Missile shield: it works now, says US (http://article.wn.com/link/WNATFE1389F92E85709BC3CCF6F91E054452?source=templategenerator&template=worldphotos/photo.txt) - America's anti-missile shield is working again with "hit to kill technology" after the last test failed, says the Pentagon.A missile from a US Navy Aegis cruiser has knocked out a dummy warhead over the Pacific, the fourth intercept in five such tests of a sea-based anti-missile shield(US Navy photo)

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Sparks fly during an arrested landing onboard USS JOHN C. STENNIS (CVN 74), Dec. 3, 2003. The San Diego-based aircraft carrier is conducting training exercises in the Pacific Ocean. DoD photo by Photographer's Mate 3rd Class Mark J. Rebilas, U.S. Navy. (Released)

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A troubleshooter from the ÒWildcatsÓ of Strike Fighter Squadron One Three One (VFA 131) signals a go launch for a F/A-18 Hornet from one of four steam-powered catapults aboard USS George Washington (CVN 73). The Norfolk, Va.-based nuclear powered aircraft carrier is conducting Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX) in preparation for an upcoming six-month deployment. (U.S. Navy photo by PhotographerÕs Mate Airman Jessica Davis) (Released)

[Seoulstriker]

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i hope he didn't just find this brand-spanking new toy in the middle of rubble.

[He219]

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i hope he didn't just find this brand-spanking new toy in the middle of rubble.

No, the ******* cameraman gave it to him.... ;)

Американская Пропаганда

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This is an Achzarit APC.



For more information: http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/armored_personnel_carriers/achzarit/Achzarit.html

[uri]

This is an Achzarit APC.


Based on the chassis of Russian T55, carrying up to 10 personels, armed with 7.62 machine guns.
Used by infantry forces "Golani".
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[He219]

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So what Are the chains for - deflecting missiles or objects?

A Palestinian youth climbs in the back of an Israeli army tank as it patrols the streets of the northern West Bank town of Jenin enforcing a curfew Friday Dec. 12, 2003. Israeli army tanks, jeeps and armored personnel carriers entered Jenin and soldiers went house to house in search of militants, witnesses said. (AP Photo/Mohammed Ballas)

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A masked militant and Palestinian youths take cover when Israeli troops fire back after Palestinian militants fired at an Israeli bulldozer flattening farmlands near the road of the Jewish settlement of Netzarim, north of Gaza city, Friday Dec. 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)


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Islamic Jihad masked militants aim a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) when Israeli troops fired back after the Palestinian militants fired at an Israeli bulldozer flattening farmlands near the road of the Jewish settlement of Netzarim north of Gaza city, Friday Dec. 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)

Something for the CPD gallery...

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COMBUSIN? (sp?) What do our Italian friends say...

Italian Defence Minister Antonio Martino (2nd L) paid a morale-boosting visit to Italian forces in Nasiriyah, a month after a murderous suicide bombing in the city.(AFP/Abdelhak Senna)

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An Italian armored vehicle on patrol near Nasiriyah. Italian Defence Minister Antonio Martino paid a morale-boosting visit to Italian forces in this southern Iraqi city a month after a murderous suicide bombing.(AFP/Abdelhak Senna)

[EvanL]

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Paul Martin (L), Canada's 21st Prime Minister, shakes hands with Clerk of the Privy Council Alex Himelfarb (R) after a swearing in ceremony at Rideau Hall in Ottawa December 12, 2003. Canadian Governor General Adrienne Clarkson and her husband John Ralston Saul are seated behind. *******/Jim Young

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Paul Martin (L) is sworn in as Canada's 21st prime minister by Clerk of the Privy Council Alex Himelfarb during a ceremony at Rideau Hall in Ottawa December 12, 2003. Martin named his cabinet and will hold his first cabinet meeting as prime minister Saturday. *******/Shaun Best

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Paul Martin (R) takes part in a native cleansing ceremony performed by Elder Elmer Courchene at Rideau Hall in Ottawa December 12, 2003. After the ceremony, Martin was sworn in as Canada's 21st prime minister. *******/Jim Young

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Jean Chretien (pictured) stood down as Canada's prime minister after a decade in office and handed over power to his longtime rival Paul Martin, who made sweeping changes to the government.(AFP/***** Images)

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Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao inspects an honour guard during an official welcome ceremony in Ottawa, Canada. We has accused Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian of deception and manipulation, but the island's leader vowed he would never ditch his referendum plans(AFP.***** Images/David Lucas)

[S'13]

So what Are the chains for - deflecting missiles or objects?

The chains are for deflecting Missiles...

[He219]

Thanks S'13!

Have missiles been known to cause turret separation given a strike within the area protected by those chains?

:D


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Congratulations, Prime Minister Paul Martin!

[Salty Dog]

I like how CBC does stuff like this with the army...thank god for State run television! you never see stuff like this in the US, may'be cause the government doesn't own a Television station?

The US Government running a television station would be hilarious :D . CNN and Fox already get bashed all the time for being "tools of the Administration", imagine all the bashing that would if the Govt really DID run the TV station! :-*$

The Americans do get those kind of visits a lot though... what do they call it? WSO or something? They have all kinds of huge celebrity visits with the troops. I think Mariah Carey did one in Bosnia a while back.

As for the CBC and our state run television... ugh. Gee lets just watch what the Government wants us too, maybe next we can rename the Parliament to "Politburo" :roll: .

Rick Mercer is a great guy, I'll give him props, but theres no way I'm gonna give props to the ultra-biased CBC. ;)

USO tour, this is a small example: http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/album46

[MAGNUM]

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Col Moschin left, COMSUBIN right.

[Brandon]

I bet that female South Korean soldier is hot! And thank god we have a PM that speaks english.

[Whistler]

Ultra-biased CBC eh? Thats why they always do reports and investigate government screw ups and scandals, ironically CBC seems to break the news alot faster then any other news station in Canada. Does that seem bias to you?

To me its tax dollars well spent, and by the way, maybe you should do a lil research on your own country's news television and radio before posting. I do see that Deut has proven you wrong.

You only have to watch the CBC for 15-20 minutes to see their biases pop out. On everything from Israel-Palestine, US relations, the new Conservative party, the new PM... They don't do a very good job of hiding their slant. I used to think like you... If you don't see it than I can't make you, but some day you'll open your eyes.

CBC has its high points, but I'd rather my money went to something more productive :).

[uri]

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Palestinian gunmen take cover during clashes with Israeli soldiers near the Jewish settlement of Netsarem outside Gaza City, December 12, 2003. Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie warned Israel on Friday that a barrier it is building inside the West Bank would kill off a U.S.-backed 'road map' peace plan. Sharon says a Palestinian failure to disarm militants behind suicide attacks on Israelis is pushing him towards unilateral security steps. *******/Jerry Lampen

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A Palestinian gunman takes position during clashes with Israeli soldiers near the Jewish settlement of Netsarem outside Gaza City, December 12, 2003. Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie warned Israel on Friday that a barrier it is building inside the West Bank would kill off a U.S.-backed 'road map' peace plan. Sharon says a Palestinian failure to disarm militants behind suicide attacks on Israelis is pushing him towards unilateral security steps. *******/Jerry Lampen

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A Palestinian gunman takes cover during clashes with Israeli soldiers near the Jewish settlement of Netsarem outside Gaza City, December 12, 2003. Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie warned Israel on Friday that a barrier it is building inside the West Bank would kill off a U.S.-backed 'road map' peace plan. Sharon says a Palestinian failure to disarm militants behind suicide attacks on Israelis is pushing him towards unilateral security steps. *******/Jerry Lampen

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A Palestinian gunman runs for cover during clashes with Israeli soldiers near the Jewish settlement of Netsarem outside Gaza City December 12, 2003. Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie warned Israel on Friday that a barrier it is building inside the West Bank would kill off a U.S.-backed peace plan. *******/Jerry Lampen

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A Palestinian boy is draped in the flag of the Islamic militant group Hamas during 16th anniversary celebrations of the group's founding in the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza Strip (news - web sites) December 12, 2003. Hamas vowed on Friday to resume suicide bombings against Israel as tens of thousands of Palestinians demonstrated against diplomatic efforts to achieve Middle East peace. Photo by Jerry Lampen/*******

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A Palestinian boy draped in a flag of the Islamic militant group Hamas stands on an US flag in front of a mock coffin during the 16th anniversary celebrations of Hamas founding in the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza Strip (news - web sites) December 12, 2003. Tens of thousands of Hamas supporters, some of them masked militants, rallied in the Gaza refugee camps of Jabalya and Nuseirat on Friday to mark the 16th anniversary of its founding. Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurie was quoted on Friday as saying a barrier Israel is building inside the West Bank would kill off a U.S.-backed 'road map' peace plan. Sharon says the Palestinian failure to disarm militants behind suicide attacks on Israelis is pushing him towards unilateral security steps. *******/Jerry Lampen *******

[GLax]

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are these people insane? theyre almost asking to get detained or shot...

[Macs.]

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are these people insane? theyre almost asking to get detained or shot...

He wants to ride the bull. p-)

[S'13]

are these people insane? theyre almost asking to get detained or shot...

The worst thing these people can do is to get run over, then we have to scrape off what's left of these idiots off the caterpillar track...

[uri]

are these people insane? theyre almost asking to get detained or shot...

Are these people look normal to you?
I don't think so, but the cheap propaganda by part of the press seems to work on their side, specialy in Europe.

[S'13]

Have missiles been known to cause turret separation given a strike within the area protected by those chains?

I really don't know (my knowledge is quite limited in this field). What I do know is that these chains have been placed in that area of the tank because (amongst other reasons I assume) this area is the most susceptible to hollow charges.

[GLax]

Are these people look normal to you?
I don't think so, but the cheap propaganda by part of the press seems to work on their side, specialy in Europe.

good point...

[Mr. Nielsen]

are these people insane? theyre almost asking to get detained or shot...

It's hard to say whats exactly is in their mind. But it seems that people under occupation sometimes have a need to defy the power of occupation. There are also exaples from Denmark during the nazi occupation where people would tease the occupation soldiers, roaming the streets in tanks, despite the great risk of getting shot.

[Vance]

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What a bunch of homogays.

[He219]

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What a bunch of homogays.
:lol: LOL!

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Israeli soldiers guard the Jewish settlement of Netzarim in the Gaza Strip as a visiting Israeli family walk around the setlement Friday Dec. 12, 2003. Busloads of Israelis _ fearful that possible unilateral Israeli moves might including dismantling some Israeli settlements _ flocked to Netzarim in a show of solidarity with the 60 families who live there under a massive military guard. At least 1,000 visitors from all parts of Israel arrived to spend the Jewish Sabbath at the settlement, a target of repeated Palestinian attacks. Gunmen fired occasional shots at the armored buses, and helmeted troops took up combat stations around the settlement, but there were no injuries. (AP Photo/Gadi Kabalo)

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An Israeli soldier guards the Jewish settlement of Netzarim in the Gaza Strip as a visiting Israeli boy looks on, Friday Dec. 12, 2003. Busloads of Israelis _ fearful that possible unilateral Israeli moves might including dismantling some Israeli settlements _ flocked to Netzarim in a show of solidarity with the 60 families who live there under a massive military guard. At least 1,000 visitors from all parts of Israel arrived to spend the Jewish Sabbath at the settlement, a target of repeated Palestinian attacks. Gunmen fired occasional shots at the armored buses, and helmeted troops took up combat stations around the settlement, but there were no injuries. (AP Photo/Gadi Kabalo)

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Palestinian youths run to take cover as Israeli troops fired back after Palestinian militants fired at an Israeli bulldozer flattening farmlands near the road of the Jewish settlement of Netzarim north of Gaza city, Friday Dec. 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)

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are these people insane? theyre almost asking to get shot... More like impudence

Israeli soldiers secure the area of the Jewish settlement of Netzarim in the Gaza Strip, as a visiting Israeli prays, Friday Dec. 12, 2003. Busloads of Israelis - fearful that possible unilateral Israeli moves might including dismantling some Israeli settlements - flocked to Netzarim in a show of solidarity with the 60 families who live there under a massive military guard. At least 1,000 visitors from all parts of Israel arrived to spend the Jewish Sabbath at the settlement, a target of repeated Palestinian attacks. Gunmen fired occasional shots at the armored buses, and helmeted troops took up combat stations around the settlement, but there were no injuries. (AP Photo/Gadi Kabalo)

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Islamic Jihad masked militants secure the main Gaza road after Israeli troops exchanged shots with Palestinian militants who fired at an Israeli bulldozer flattening farmlands near the road of the Jewish settlement of Netzarim, north of Gaza city, Friday Dec. 12, 2003. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)


Back in Iraq...


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An Italian soldier defuses explosives at a building Friday, Dec. 12 2003 in Nassiriyah, which housed Italian carabinieri and was attacked by a suicide bomber a month ago, killing 19 people. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)

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Italian soldiers defuse explosives on Friday Dec. 12, 2003 at a building in Nassiriyah where Italian carabinieri lived and were attacked by a suicide bomber a month ago, killing 19. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)

[UoUo]

are these people insane? theyre almost asking to get detained or shot...

It's hard to say whats exactly is in their mind. But it seems that people under occupation sometimes have a need to defy the power of occupation. There are also exaples from Denmark during the nazi occupation where people would tease the occupation soldiers, roaming the streets in tanks, despite the great risk of getting shot.

Good exsmple... :cantbeli: :cantbeli:

[FallenAngel]

Hamas vowed on Friday to resume suicide bombings against Israel as tens of thousands of Palestinians demonstrated against diplomatic efforts to achieve Middle East peace.

I wonder why this lovely little tid bit isn't on CNN. To everyone who blames the Isrealis for not giving peace a chance, read the above and learn :D

(and yes, I know Sharon is again the informal talks as well, but he hasn't vowed to start blowing up buses and cafes AFAIK.)

[One?]

Hamas vowed on Friday to resume suicide bombings against Israel as tens of thousands of Palestinians demonstrated against diplomatic efforts to achieve Middle East peace.

I wonder why this lovely little tid bit isn't on CNN. To everyone who blames the Isrealis for not giving peace a chance, read the above and learn :D

(and yes, I know Sharon is again the informal talks as well, but he hasn't vowed to start blowing up buses and cafes AFAIK.)

The Palestinian militant groups met last weekend in Egypt and they agreed not to target civilians anymore. They wanted a cease fire but Israel refused any cease fire (for whatever reason they had).

The Palestinian Authority did all they can and sent representatives to discuss the Geneva Peace plan.

Don't blame the palestinians and say the dont want peace.

[Vance]

Don't blame the palestinians and say the dont want peace.

It's kind of hard when they do stuff like this...


Hamas vowed on Friday to resume suicide bombings against Israel as tens of thousands of Palestinians demonstrated against diplomatic efforts to achieve Middle East peace.

[uri]

The Palestinian militant groups met last weekend in Egypt and they agreed not to target civilians anymore. They wanted a cease fire but Israel refused any cease fire (for whatever reason they had).

The Palestinian Authority did all they can and sent representatives to discuss the Geneva Peace plan.

Don't blame the palestinians and say the dont want peace.

1. The Palestinians agreed not to target civilians not in the settlements, every night there is attempts to hurt civilians. By the way, they agreed to do that in past, and turn out they did hurt civils.
2. The Geneva plan have been offered by left oposition group and not really an option for anything.
3. Sorry, they don't.