Chernobul's equipment graveyard

[Russian Texan]

These are the pictures of some of the equipment that had to be abandoned after it was used in the contaminated zone. Even helicopters that flew above the powerplant had to be written off.

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_02.JPG
http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_04.JPG

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_05.JPG

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_03.JPG

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_07.JPG

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_13.JPG

http://www.foxbat.ru/maks/chernobil/chernobil_17.JPG

[ShotOver]

Yuck, that gives me the creeps...

[Shiruzu]

I hope, the cameraman didn't walk around there, taking the pic in T-Shirt&Jeans ;)

[Dalleer]

Rows and rows of old Soviet stuff...

I don't know what it is, but the first photo picturing the whole Chernobyl (?) reactor complex is really post-apocalyptic in my mind, somehow brings me the "Fallout"-game series in mind.

[dez000]

Yuck, that gives me the creeps...

Me too :s

[redhawk_six]

What a waste...

Guess there's no way to decontaminate them is there...

[Roger Rabbit]

What are those helicopters? And did i see a Hind in there?

[ShotOver]

Doubt it was a hind mate, they are all cargo helo's, like Mi-8s and **** like that.

[Roger Rabbit]

Yup your right, just had a closer look. My bad.

[Chris O`Crooh]

Well, guys...

The choppers that we can see on those pics are mostly Mi-6 "Hook", some with wings.

There is also one Mi-8 "Hip", sinificantly smaller than "flying cranes".

I`ve heard that there was a variant of Hind, Mi-24 RCh (Mn-24 PX), dedicated to radiological recon missions. They were also used over Chernobyl.

[Saranof]

I thought most Mi- 24s were adapted for flying through radioactive zones?

[Kenshin]

This could good for a tourist attraction-

Visit the "The first Radioactive Junk Yard"!..

NOTE: Please dont touch anything.. on bare hand rofl

[ShotOver]

If you go there without a bio suit, you would probally glow in the dark for the rest of your very short life, or grow an extra arm...

[Chris O`Crooh]

Mi-24 RCh was a special variant - had no ATGMs, but was equipped with probes that were able to take some sand, earth, concrete, while Hind flew without moving. It had also some devices to scan radiation of the air.

I`ve heard that almost whole Soviet military equipment was adapted to operations in radioactive conditions. Propably they plannaed to "chop" some ways to the Western Europe with A-bombs.

Some pilots from the other countries were also trained in "special" operations, although the bombs were to be delivevred by Russians shortly before flight.

[LongWayToTheTop]

They look like Mi-26's their Huge Cargo Choppers.

[Guttorm]

Those helos are friggin MOSTERS!

[Chris O`Crooh]

Yes, there are also Halos (Mi-26). The best way to recognize them is to have a look at the main undercarrige: Mi-6 has a big one, that goes up to the wing. Mi-26 has small one, that is mostly hidden in the fuselage.

[Uncle Chô]

Those helos are friggin MOSTERS!
x 2 Mil Mi-8

x 7 Mil Mi-6

x 1 Mil Mi-26 (the Mi-26 cargo load is similar to the one of the early C-130 Hercules !). The biggest helo in the world.

[Seoulstriker]

that place gives me the creeps...

[mattmayhem]

Whats with all the BRDM scout cars? There are loads of them ! Were they used for radiation recon?

[ShotOver]

Yeah, they probally would of been.

[redhawk_six]

If you go there without a bio suit, you would probally glow in the dark for the rest of your very short life, or grow an extra arm...

I'm sure after all these years that radiation levels aren't that high.

[He219]

Ask Dr. Strangelove .....

http://wso.williams.edu/~mhacker/Strangelove/strangelove2.jpg

DR. STRANGELOVE "Well let's see now ah... cobalt thorium G... Radioactive halflife of uh, ... hmm.. I would think that uh... possibly uh... one hundred years. "


:D

[Andyman]

The worst of it is hoe the Russian denied everything for so long, enabling the contamination to spread even further into more populated areas. It's like what were they trying to do save face? :cantbeli:
All they did was just end up looking like retards. Same idea as what happened with the Kursk, Russian denial blah :bash:

[REMOV]

Ask Dr. Strangelove .....The problem is, He219, that Chernobyl is another HUGE urban myth (or the Great Lie) of 20th Century.


Source: http://www.un.org/ha/chernobyl/unsceare.htm
UNSCEAR Focuses on Chernobyl Accident in General Assembly Report

VIENNA, 6 June (UN Information Centre) -- The United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) has just approved its UNSCEAR 2000 Report to the General Assembly. This is a detailed assessment of radiation sources and health effects. Particular emphasis has been given to the evaluation of exposures and health consequences of the Chernobyl accident.
The Chernobyl accident

According to the Committee’s scientific assessments, there have been about 1,800 cases of thyroid cancer in children who were exposed at the time of the accident, and if the current trend continues, there may be more cases during the next decades. Apart from this increase, there is no evidence of a major public health impact attributable to radiation exposure fourteen years after the accident. There is no scientific evidence of increases in overall cancer incidence or mortality or in non-malignant disorders that could be related to radiation exposure. The risk of leukaemia, one of the main concerns owing to its short latency time, does not appear to be elevated, not even among the recovery operation workers. Although those most highly exposed individuals are at an increased risk of radiation-associated effects, the great majority of the population are not likely to experience serious health consequences from radiation from the Chernobyl accident.

Cancer risks
The Committee has further assessed the cancer risks from radiation exposures based on reviews of epidemiological studies and results from fundamental radiological research. The primary source of information remains the Life Span Study of the survivors of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It includes about 86,500 individuals of all ages and both genders with good dosimetric data over a wide range of doses. About 5% of the 7,800 deaths from cancer or leukaemia in this group of exposed people is due to radiation.

For a population of all ages and both genders, the lifetime risk of dying from cancer is about 9% for men and 13% for women after an acute dose of 1,000 millisievert. For comparison, the worldwide annual per caput dose is 2.4 millisievert from natural radiation.

Radiation sources
The greatest contribution to the world population’s dose comes from natural background radiation. The second largest contribution comes from medical radiation procedures. Human activities cause further radiation exposure in addition to the natural exposure, for instance contamination from nuclear weapons testing and nuclear power production contribute to the radiation exposure of the public. Occupational radiation exposure is incurred by workers in industry, medicine and research. The table summarizes UNSCEAR’s estimates of the annual worldwide average per caput dose.

Average radiation doses at year 2000 from natural and man-made sources of radiation expressed in millisievert (mSv)

Source......................................Worldwide average
...............................................annual effective dose
Natural background................................... 2.4
Diagnostic medical examinations................ 0.4
Atmospheric nuclear testing.................... 0.005
Chernobyl accident............................. 0.002
Nuclear power production.......................0.002

There is no long term consequences, no risk for your life, no contaminated areas (excet near place of fire, ca. 0,5km2), the whole tragedy costs only 31 dies. And another hundreds because of... hysteria. Why nobody tell the truth? The answer is simple - the money world gave to "recover" the area and... the world antinuclear movements. Tell those people that the fact they believe is a bull****? No way! "The atom energy is bad, everybody knows, the Chernobyl bla, bla, bla...". They even don't know that every day in those closed zone works about 10 000 workers plus the hundreds of old people never came away form their houses. They are not mutants... and lives there until now.

There are ares for instance in Iraq where the NATURAL radioactivity is greater than an average and 1000 times more then Charnobyl. So, the special zone is just another myth... Probably someone told the truth someday, but most of people still wouldn't believe.

(x (http://www.wprost.pl/drukuj/?O=10072))

[Whistler]

Great pics. Ever hear of STALKER?

Its this new game coming out about the near future in Chernobyl... kind of like Half Life 2 but more realistic. The graphics and atmosphere look amazing, very much like the real pics of the area.

http://www.stalker-game.com

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/stalkerOL_111003_002.jpg

[GLax]

if you think thats creepy looking, imagine it at nite...

[REMOV]

if you think thats creepy looking, imagine it at nite...Yes, thats true even in real world. There is a ghost town called Prypets (Prypec'), before the "catastrophe" lives there ca. 50 000 people.

[RomanS]

ENJOY

http://www.zona.arhipelag.net/stalker/Art/part-of-game-weapons.jpg

[redhawk_six]

Ask Dr. Strangelove .....The problem is, He219, that Chernobyl is another HUGE urban myth (or the Great Lie) of 20th Century.


Source: http://www.un.org/ha/chernobyl/unsceare.htm
UNSCEAR Focuses on Chernobyl Accident in General Assembly Report

VIENNA, 6 June (UN Information Centre) -- The United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) has just approved its UNSCEAR 2000 Report to the General Assembly. This is a detailed assessment of radiation sources and health effects. Particular emphasis has been given to the evaluation of exposures and health consequences of the Chernobyl accident.
The Chernobyl accident

According to the Committee’s scientific assessments, there have been about 1,800 cases of thyroid cancer in children who were exposed at the time of the accident, and if the current trend continues, there may be more cases during the next decades. Apart from this increase, there is no evidence of a major public health impact attributable to radiation exposure fourteen years after the accident. There is no scientific evidence of increases in overall cancer incidence or mortality or in non-malignant disorders that could be related to radiation exposure. The risk of leukaemia, one of the main concerns owing to its short latency time, does not appear to be elevated, not even among the recovery operation workers. Although those most highly exposed individuals are at an increased risk of radiation-associated effects, the great majority of the population are not likely to experience serious health consequences from radiation from the Chernobyl accident.

Cancer risks
The Committee has further assessed the cancer risks from radiation exposures based on reviews of epidemiological studies and results from fundamental radiological research. The primary source of information remains the Life Span Study of the survivors of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It includes about 86,500 individuals of all ages and both genders with good dosimetric data over a wide range of doses. About 5% of the 7,800 deaths from cancer or leukaemia in this group of exposed people is due to radiation.

For a population of all ages and both genders, the lifetime risk of dying from cancer is about 9% for men and 13% for women after an acute dose of 1,000 millisievert. For comparison, the worldwide annual per caput dose is 2.4 millisievert from natural radiation.

Radiation sources
The greatest contribution to the world population’s dose comes from natural background radiation. The second largest contribution comes from medical radiation procedures. Human activities cause further radiation exposure in addition to the natural exposure, for instance contamination from nuclear weapons testing and nuclear power production contribute to the radiation exposure of the public. Occupational radiation exposure is incurred by workers in industry, medicine and research. The table summarizes UNSCEAR’s estimates of the annual worldwide average per caput dose.

Average radiation doses at year 2000 from natural and man-made sources of radiation expressed in millisievert (mSv)

Source......................................Worldwide average
...............................................annual effective dose
Natural background................................... 2.4
Diagnostic medical examinations................ 0.4
Atmospheric nuclear testing.................... 0.005
Chernobyl accident............................. 0.002
Nuclear power production.......................0.002

There is no long term consequences, no risk for your life, no contaminated areas (excet near place of fire, ca. 0,5km2), the whole tragedy costs only 31 dies. And another hundreds because of... hysteria. Why nobody tell the truth? The answer is simple - the money world gave to "recover" the area and... the world antinuclear movements. Tell those people that the fact they believe is a bull****? No way! "The atom energy is bad, everybody knows, the Chernobyl bla, bla, bla...". They even don't know that every day in those closed zone works about 10 000 workers plus the hundreds of old people never came away form their houses. They are not mutants... and lives there until now.

There are ares for instance in Iraq where the NATURAL radioactivity is greater than an average and 1000 times more then Charnobyl. So, the special zone is just another myth... Probably someone told the truth someday, but most of people still wouldn't believe.

(x (http://www.wprost.pl/drukuj/?O=10072))

So then that equipment may be sitting there for no reason? It may actully be safe? God, talk about a waste...

I'll take a few of those things off their hands if they are safe! :lol:

[REMOV]

So then that equipment may be sitting there for no reason?The CFE limits I think...

It may actully be safe? God, talk about a waste... It's safe, but it is old and in very poor condition.

I'll take a few of those things off their hands if they are safe! :lol:What for? You can always buy an old tank, they aren't so expencive. My friend bought a used OT-64 APC for 750USD, there are several tanks in civil hands here in Poland ;)

http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/artykuly/zlot_2003/11_T-34.jpg
http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/artykuly/zlot_2003/13_Yogi.jpg
(This T-55AM, called Yogi, is bought by ex-GROM Soldiers Foundation for training purposes)

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Ya ill take those heli's they got there....im sure my dad wont mind one in the back yard. Geez those grom guys look like there having a blast, I wish I had a tank :P

Whats that city in the Us thats currently burning underground? It's sitting ontop of a ****load of coal and somehow the coal caught on fire, I forget what its called but its very very creepy.